20:39 <TyGently> OKAY SO
20:39 <AidenEldritch> YEAH
20:39 <TyGently> I was thinking about how two specific gois might be incorporated in third law in a way that is fitting for third law and distinct from other interpretations
20:40 <AidenEldritch> COOL
20:40 <TyGently> first: oneiroi
20:40 <AidenEldritch> NEAT
20:41 <TyGently> I've been thinking that we'll want to distance ourselves from other depictions of oneiroi and dream magic and stuff, less "second life", more "unknowable dream being within the collective subconscious of humanity"
20:42 <AidenEldritch> SWEE-okay I'll stop now
20:43 <TyGently> such that the "oneiroi collective" is sort of an entity or entities existing off the world tree within the dreamed conceptions of all the things that do not exist anywhere in the multiverse, by definition unknowable but still linked to the limits of human imagination
20:43 <TyGently> it's juuuuust beyond that horizon
20:43 <AidenEldritch> oneiroi is a complex number
20:43 <AidenEldritch> okay
20:44 <TyGently> so, then, how does this matter to anything in third law? how does it actually interact with the narrative?
20:44 <AidenEldritch> J. C. Randall fell off the multiverse tree
20:44 <AidenEldritch> it's entirely possible he fell off and hit the oneiroi by mistake
20:44 <TyGently> exactly
20:45 <AidenEldritch> and now you have serial reports of dreams of the man himself, wandering through the universes not linked by Ways but rather by minds
20:45 <AidenEldritch> which in turn links to Analog Kuid
20:45 <AidenEldritch> *Kid
20:45 <TyGently> perhaps the OC is at least partially composed of human minds that are no longer fully human because they've gone over that horizon into nothingness
20:46 <TyGently> and then we could have ONEIROI INCORPORATED, a subsidary of prometheus labs™
20:46 <TyGently> imagine the applications if you could trap a being made of potential that is by definition unpurposed
20:46 <AidenEldritch> oh noooooooo
20:47 <AidenEldritch> Prometheus wrangles infinite unpurposed potential into working with them through legal contracts
20:47 <TyGently> what if you could bring a little bit of it into people? what if you could bring a little bit of it into our world?
20:49 <TyGently> and then you're creating a feedback loop, because you're bringing an entity of human imagination into human thought, which by definition extends the bounds of human imagination, which pushes the OC further and further...
20:49 <AidenEldritch> oh shit
20:50 <TyGently> which leads me into number two
20:50 — AidenEldritch rubs hands
20:51 <TyGently> what happens if unreality gets so full that a portion of the OC is forced into the real world? a single being so unused to being human, only barely able to comprehend, and by definition unknowable? constantly changing, defined only by imagination? drifting like a dream, unable to seriously change anything...
20:51 <TyGently> what would we call that
20:51 <AidenEldritch> ...
20:51 <AidenEldritch> SCP-055
20:51 <TyGently> I was actually going for "nobody" but that works too
20:51 <AidenEldritch> lol
20:52 <TyGently> (this'd then tie Nobody pretty easily into SCP-990 if we wish)
20:53 <AidenEldritch> dream reports and all that
20:53 <AidenEldritch> cool
20:54 <TyGently> but in any case, Prometheus filling up the space between universes with dreams of human possibility to the point that unknowable fragments start streaming into our world is a pretty versatile idea
21:21 <AidenEldritch> so is there anything else or nah
21:21 <TyGently> that's most of my thoughts on the groups so far
21:22 <TyGently> I have some ideas for how oneiroi would be implemented in a tale (I'm thinking something from first person, set in the 50s, from perspective of an oneiroi inc exec?) and if I do that the nobody stuff will really just be a plot hook for later picking up upon
21:23 <AidenEldritch> coolio
21:23 <TyGently> you are also free to steal stuff
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