thedisto: Any particular reason that the large neut fleet in HED- is being reported as blue
thedisto: Preferably beforew e bomb them
Andi Onthatop [Brave | Recon] entered the room.
Andi Onthatop [Brave | Recon] left the room.
sandybox entered the room.
thedisto: I was going to ask Anna but Anna isn't in here
lorilath [BRAVE Cap Command]: they are spectre fleet
lorilath [BRAVE Cap Command]: they are with us
securitasprotector: Acid Katelo [BRAVE]:
securitasprotector: is it possible to set up a temp link
Acid Katelo [BRAVE]: wat
Acid Katelo [BRAVE]: no
securitasprotector: tits
lorilath [BRAVE Cap Command]: brave services doesn't have that yet afaik
Acid Katelo [BRAVE]: we like to harvest APIs :P
Acid Katelo [BRAVE]: ever*
lorilath [BRAVE Cap Command]: stop bombing spectre!
Blue Ice[BRAVE]: giovannititus[test]:
Blue Ice[BRAVE]: huskeradmin:
Blue Ice[BRAVE]: please dont bomb the dudes in hed
Blue Ice[BRAVE]: we are in fleet with them
giovannititus[test]: werlp
securitasprotector: wow
securitasprotector: what the fuck test
giovannititus[test]: no-one told me
Blue Ice[BRAVE]: you are retarded
securitasprotector: pls
Blue Ice[BRAVE]: kill yourself
giovannititus[test]: I'm not FCin btw
giovannititus[test]: fuck you Blue Ice[BRAVE]
giovannititus[test]: you might want to tell us of these plans
securitasprotector: :hero:
securitasprotector: the one time we do amazing bombing run
securitasprotector: it just happens to be
giovannititus[test]: :cleanhands:
giovannititus[test]: next time communicate
giovannititus[test]: tia
giovannititus[test] left the room.
huskeradmin: no one informed me
Sapporo Jones[TEST]: you can't just declare someone temp blue and not tell us or anyone else
Sapporo Jones[TEST]: ffs
Blue Ice[BRAVE]: we did
Blue Ice[BRAVE]: you are retarded
Blue Ice[BRAVE]: (20:59:28) lorilath [BRAVE Cap Command]: they are spectre fleet
lorilath [BRAVE Cap Command]: they are with us
securitasprotector: (12:50:49 PM) thedisto: Any particular reason that the large neut fleet in HED- is being reported as blue
thedisto: Preferably beforew e bomb them
thedisto: I was going to ask Anna but Anna isn't in here
lorilath [BRAVE Cap Command]: they are spectre fleet
lorilath [BRAVE Cap Command]: they are with us
annaniedostepny entered the room.
annaniedostepny: fucking test services died
annaniedostepny: and i had to reset
crimson11 entered the room.
huskeradmin: sorry little late
annaniedostepny: NO
securitasprotector: are you serious
securitasprotector: again
annaniedostepny: That as fuckign stupid
Sinnister Agenda {Brave}: im here shit
annaniedostepny: i want that fleet reimbursed
Sinnister Agenda {Brave}: my bad i was not lookin in here
annaniedostepny: That is significant to an awox that was prewarned and shit
Sapporo Jones[TEST]: what
Aben Sokoln [HONOR]: why was my guest.fc from mumble removed
huskeradmin: where did you prewarn me
Sinnister Agenda {Brave}: where i wasnt
huskeradmin: please feel free to show me the logs where you told me
annaniedostepny: 20:59:28) lorilath [BRAVE Cap Command]: they are spectre fleet
lorilath [BRAVE Cap Command]: they are with us
Sinnister Agenda {Brave}: i was not warned and i am in brave
Acid Katelo [BRAVE]: now now anna
annaniedostepny: fucking 20 fucking minutes ago
Acid Katelo [BRAVE]: we can't assume that test will read alliedfc
huskeradmin: u should ping me
securitasprotector: whoa whoa whoa chill out
securitasprotector: it was said in here, nobody noticed, test bombed
securitasprotector: that much is probably understandable
Sinnister Agenda {Brave}: just because intel channel says "possible blue" doesnt mean im going to assume blue
securitasprotector: but bombing again
securitasprotector: was really dumb
Acid Katelo [BRAVE]: Aben Sokoln [HONOR]: Guest FCs are required to have full account keys in Core now
annaniedostepny: the disto asked
annaniedostepny: we responded
securitasprotector: yeah
securitasprotector: looked pretty clear to me
annaniedostepny: There should of been relay
Aben Sokoln [HONOR]: you understand why im reluctant to give brave my api
huskeradmin: im the FC no disto k thanks
securitasprotector: is thedisto in your fleet?
Acid Katelo [BRAVE]: Aben Sokoln [HONOR]: absolutely
Acid Katelo [BRAVE]: I was surprised anyone still had guest fc after the change
thedisto: sorry I've been AFK for the last
securitasprotector: =/
annaniedostepny: Must be on test services to communicate test FCs dont even read chat >_>
securitasprotector: that said i dont' see how it's blue's responsibility to seek out every fc who might be leading a fleet at the current time
thedisto: 20 minutes
securitasprotector: posting info in alliedfc should be easily sufficient
securitasprotector: isn't that the point of this channel
annaniedostepny: what is that was a strat op. Spectre has helped us severel times in the past
thedisto: I'm sorry Anna, but I was being pretty proactive and they were in system for 20 minutes before we had a response
annaniedostepny: and you waited 15-20 min before you bombed
annaniedostepny: Miscommunication it happens... but wtf
annaniedostepny: you dont bomb again after you know
annaniedostepny: That is like hey let me spit in your face more
lorilath [BRAVE Cap Command]: i saw someone asking so i responded
Sapporo Jones[TEST]: did you have plans to set them blue prior to the op
annaniedostepny: they are a public entity
annaniedostepny: you cant set them blue
huskeradmin: the only op i see is 2h 39 min from now
Sapporo Jones[TEST]: that's sort of moving the goalposts isn't it
securitasprotector: Sapporo Jones[TEST]: come on mate be reasonable
securitasprotector: it was announced in channel
securitasprotector: a fuckup happened fair enough
securitasprotector: it happens
securitasprotector: but then to do it again
securitasprotector: that was just
securitasprotector: like
annaniedostepny: Yeah i am not exactly pissed about the first time. That can happen.... it was the second time
annaniedostepny: We should of had them in our POS
annaniedostepny: I will agree mistakes were made
annaniedostepny: but for fuck sakes to spit in and do it again after comms blew up like taht
annaniedostepny: That is fucked up
annaniedostepny: also reason we should have fleets hosted on brave comms
annaniedostepny: Cause then it is VERY easy to notice what is going on
Sapporo Jones[TEST]: we are having a consistent issue where communication simply isn't happening.  it's becoming a pain point for all of us and manifesting in interesting ways.  I can't speak to the second bombing run, I don't know what happened there and I am talking to people to find out
Sapporo Jones[TEST]: but
Sapporo Jones[TEST]: we gotta fix that communication shit yo
Acid Katelo [BRAVE]: when did the first bombing run occur?
Sapporo Jones[TEST]: I really have no idea
Sapporo Jones[TEST]: I'm coming in to this late
annaniedostepny: about 01:15
Acid Katelo [BRAVE]: ok
annaniedostepny: opps
Acid Katelo [BRAVE]: so
annaniedostepny: 20:15
Acid Katelo [BRAVE]: it was said in this channel at 2000 that spectre fleet were blues
Acid Katelo [BRAVE]: but only at the prompting of disto
securitasprotector: yes mistakes were made
securitasprotector: it should have been said first without disto's prompting
securitasprotector: however
securitasprotector: it was said
securitasprotector: so no bombing should have happened
thedisto: I could have prevented this
Sapporo Jones[TEST]: at that point our fleet was prolly lining up to do the bomb run
Acid Katelo [BRAVE]: 15 minutes before hand?
Sapporo Jones[TEST]: we shouldn't have to pull for information like that
annaniedostepny: there should of been more measures to prevent it than just you disto
Sapporo Jones[TEST]: sometimes that's what it takes
Sapporo Jones[TEST]: lining up successful bombing runs is not point and click
crimson11: sapporo, no ones upset over the first run
annaniedostepny: not blaming ou or something....
crimson11: its the second run
crimson11: when everyone yelled in here
crimson11: they were blue
crimson11: 1st run, shit happens, 2nd run, wtf really is this arguement distilled down
Sinnister Agenda {Brave}: crim i dont have sound on unless someone pings my name
securitasprotector: who did the second run and why
securitasprotector: is basically what i'd like to know
securitasprotector: at least
annaniedostepny: 1st one = well we fucked the pooch on that one (lets look into how to prvent) the second one was (Hey look i am test and give no fucks)
Sapporo Jones[TEST]: based on what I am hearing from the fleet
Blue Ice[BRAVE]: hey test
Sapporo Jones[TEST]: it is not about being test and giving no fucks
Blue Ice[BRAVE]: instead of being retarded little faggots
Blue Ice[BRAVE]: why dont you bomb some enemies
Sapporo Jones[TEST]: it was about bombing a larger cva fleet
Blue Ice[BRAVE]: when we need you to bomb
Blue Ice[BRAVE]: instead of being useless cunts
Blue Ice[BRAVE]: all the fucking time
Sapporo Jones[TEST]: Blue Ice[BRAVE]: let's not say things we can't take back friend
Sinnister Agenda {Brave}: blue calm down
huskeradmin: your fleets dead
huskeradmin: deal with u
securitasprotector: blue
securitasprotector: chill
Sinnister Agenda {Brave}: seriously blue chill
Blue Ice[BRAVE]: (21:34:18) Sapporo Jones[TEST]: Blue Ice[BRAVE]: let's not say things we can't take back friend
Blue Ice[BRAVE]: you are shit
securitasprotector: DONT LISTEN TO BLUE
securitasprotector: blue please
Blue Ice[BRAVE]: it makes no difference what you say
Sapporo Jones[TEST]: lololololol
huskeradmin: ok sorry im a bit mad
huskeradmin: i didnt know
huskeradmin: heres the story
huskeradmin: from my end
huskeradmin: neut fleet was reported while we were out blopsing
huskeradmin: we dropped on a paladin and came back and they were still around
huskeradmin: i made the call to form bombers so we can bomb them
Sapporo Jones[TEST]: did you seriously post about this on reddit?  :cripesbert:
Blue Ice[BRAVE]: (21:14:12) Blue Ice[BRAVE]: (20:59:28) lorilath [BRAVE Cap Command]: they are spectre fleet
lorilath [BRAVE Cap Command]: they are with us
securitasprotector: thedisto: Any particular reason that the large neut fleet in HED- is being reported as blue
thedisto: Preferably beforew e bomb them
thedisto: I was going to ask Anna but Anna isn't in here
lorilath [BRAVE Cap Command]: they are spectre fleet
lorilath [BRAVE Cap Command]: they are with us
annaniedostepny entered the room.
Blue Ice[BRAVE]: are you unable to open your eyes?
Blue Ice[BRAVE]: you saw we pinged for feroxes
Blue Ice[BRAVE]: so maybe ask
Blue Ice[BRAVE]: if you see a fleet
Blue Ice[BRAVE]: with exactly the same doctrine with us
Blue Ice[BRAVE]: maybe there is something going on
Agustus palpius [TEST] entered the room.
huskeradmin: your assuming
huskeradmin: i never saw a ping for no ferox
huskeradmin: was it a test ping?
Blue Ice[BRAVE]: So we're doing feroxes now for a bit of fun.

Feroxes in blue ice's fleet
Dictor/Hictor>Scimi/Basi>Huginn/Lach>Ferox>Scythe
sigma comms

Tackle under Stath vaille
phi comms

##### SENT BY: Blue Ice (Brave Collective); TO: online.all; WHEN: 2014-08-17 19:42:54 #####
huskeradmin: oh its a brave ping
DivineRapier [BRAVE]: He doesn't get BRAVE pings.
huskeradmin: ^
Blue Ice[BRAVE]: grow up then and get our pings
DivineRapier [BRAVE]: Another reason why allied channels should be on BRAVE services
huskeradmin: lol il do that
Blue Ice[BRAVE]: and be less useless
DivineRapier [BRAVE]: That's the bigger issue
huskeradmin: get mad more broh
 huskeradmin: but no one ever approached me and told me ferox was doing somethign with u
Blue Ice[BRAVE]: yeah im mad
lorilath [BRAVE Cap Command]: i signed up for all test services so i get all the info
sandybox: we'll make sure to put our ops on your forums...oh
Blue Ice[BRAVE]: because you are retarded
Blue Ice[BRAVE]: i post my ops on your shitty forums
securitasprotector: yo can we stop the test vs brave thing
securitasprotector: i like harmony
securitasprotector: and peae
Blue Ice[BRAVE]: the least you can fucking do is sign up for our pings
securitasprotector: *peace
securitasprotector: and butterflies
securitasprotector: lets agree a lot of shit cascaded and went rong
securitasprotector: *wrong
securitasprotector: and like
securitasprotector: fix it
securitasprotector: aka
huskeradmin: Blue Ice[BRAVE]:  ok il do that for future
Sapporo Jones[TEST]: Blue Ice[BRAVE]: your tone is all wrong friend
securitasprotector: Step 1: make sure to notify in alliedfc of any neutral fleets
Step 2: Check allied FC for said notifications
Step 3: Get unified services/have everyone signed up on both please
Step 4: Work together on things
Step 5: chill out
Sapporo Jones[TEST]: I don't appreciate you talking to anyone in this channel in such a way
Blue Ice[BRAVE]: you think i give a fuck?
Sapporo Jones[TEST]: no that's the problem
annaniedostepny: Yeah we now have groups and stuff being fixed.
Blue Ice[BRAVE]: then im leaving this channel
Sapporo Jones[TEST]: ok then
annaniedostepny: We should probably get all test on our services.
Blue Ice[BRAVE]: and you can go fuck yourselves
Blue Ice[BRAVE] left the room.
Sapporo Jones[TEST]: sounds good
securitasprotector: yo guys don't pay attentiont o blue ice too much
securitasprotector: he put a lot into this fleet
securitasprotector: he just needs to rage out
securitasprotector: a bit
Malcoreh Vakarhn [BRAVE]: don't worry. Very few people do anymore
huskeradmin: get mad all u want i made a mistake
Sapporo Jones[TEST]: it's a pattern, the last instance in a series
Malcoreh Vakarhn [BRAVE]: WHY AM I PINK
Aben Sokoln [HONOR]: this channel is really cool now
GanjaLotus [HONOR]: Lol Aben
Acid Katelo [BRAVE]: Blue ice's views are those of himself only and do not represent the views of Brave Collective
Malcoreh Vakarhn [BRAVE]: ^
thedisto: It's ok for him to be mad
GanjaLotus [HONOR]: ^ That lol
Malcoreh Vakarhn [BRAVE]: NO PINK
huskeradmin: it was a bad call and obviouslywrong so chill out il fix my self get on brave services going forward
Malcoreh Vakarhn [BRAVE]: WOO
DivineRapier [BRAVE]: But he does have one valid point which has been made time and again. When running coalition ops together, everyone really should be on BRAVE mumble.
DivineRapier [BRAVE]: It's so much easier to coordinate
Malcoreh Vakarhn [BRAVE]: does test not have global command?
securitasprotector: i could get behind that
thedisto: We were simply running a blops fleet when a particulary big target appeared
Sapporo Jones[TEST]: ^
huskeradmin: i dont do anything with brave excpet blops
Sapporo Jones[TEST]: it was just a predditors op
DivineRapier [BRAVE]: thedisto: I understand. Not pointing fingers at you or anyone.
DivineRapier [BRAVE]: It's simply a practice which would solve many of these type of issues.
securitasprotector: yeah i don't think it was anyone's particular fault
securitasprotector: BUTTTT
huskeradmin: its fine u guys can blame me
securitasprotector: that last bombing run was what really ticked blue off
securitasprotector: and understandably so
securitasprotector: cause everyone kenw at that point
huskeradmin: ok let me explaint he last bomb run
huskeradmin: i bobmed the scythes because cva was in
Aben Sokoln [HONOR]: jabber has some cool fonts guys
thedisto: Although it's not hard especially hard to sit in a dedicated command channel on two comms
thedisto: Aben Sokoln [HONOR]: you obviously haven't met wheniaminspace
huskeradmin: they tackeld the scythes so i bombed everything seeing as I already had destroyed the ferox fleet the scythes werent getting away
Aben Sokoln [HONOR]: cant say i have
thedisto: )))
Malcoreh Vakarhn [BRAVE]: oh, fuck
Malcoreh Vakarhn [BRAVE]: so, basically it sounds like moral of the story is everyone involved fucked up, but none of it was willfull?
GanjaLotus [HONOR]: Oh god my eyes...
Malcoreh Vakarhn [BRAVE]: exactly
Sapporo Jones[TEST]: we are nbsi, we saw neuts, we bombed
Aben Sokoln [HONOR]: a
GanjaLotus [HONOR]: Colorblindness is killing me here
Sapporo Jones[TEST]: we weren't told in advance about a joint op
Sapporo Jones[TEST]: so neuts got bombed
Malcoreh Vakarhn [BRAVE]: no no no, I ain't attacking NBSI
Sapporo Jones[TEST]: then we were told it was a joint op
securitasprotector: please dont' kill me but that was actually a really good bombing run
annaniedostepny: anyway BRAVE services are almost fully up. Simple fact is we should start migrating all alliances to our services for fleets
Sapporo Jones[TEST]: so we bombed a cva gang that was pushing in the shit of the temp blue fgleet
Sapporo Jones[TEST]: that's the tl;dr
crimson11 left the room.
Sapporo Jones[TEST]: lots of neuts died
Sapporo Jones[TEST]: etc
Sapporo Jones[TEST]: also whoever started that reddit thread is really dumb
Sapporo Jones[TEST]: hahaha
annaniedostepny: Yeah and they have formed for start ops for us. Do you want to allies that just LOVE fighting anything off our side ?
GanjaLotus [HONOR]: Linky Sapp?
Acid Katelo [BRAVE]: ^
Acid Katelo [BRAVE]: I love me some reddit drama :)
GanjaLotus [HONOR]: Same =)
thedisto: http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/2dtqt3/congratulations_test_you_awoxed_an_allied_fleet/
Acid Katelo [BRAVE]: ty
Acid Katelo [BRAVE]: ahhh
Acid Katelo [BRAVE]: r/eve
Acid Katelo [BRAVE]: assumed it was an r/bravenewbies post
Sapporo Jones[TEST]: there may be one
Sapporo Jones[TEST]: vOv
Grega Oriki [TEST]: this made my day
huskeradmin: Bohs
huskeradmin: its over and done with
huskeradmin: im very sorry
huskeradmin: i did not know