[16:51] <k0rfi> Do anyone of you two know why my textures isn't showing up in netradiant, but it is ingame?
[16:51] <k0rfi> Whenever I load a new texture set it tells me an error,
[16:51] <FruitieX> does radiant point to the correct engine path?
[16:52] <k0rfi> Not anymore apparently
[16:52] <FruitieX> yeah well
[16:52] <FruitieX> :p
[16:52] <k0rfi> I think so, otherwise I shouldn't be able to see the texture folders from my custom maps?
[16:52] <k0rfi> It's still "Shader image missing" though
[16:52] <FruitieX> k0rfi, custom maps are probably loaded from ~/.xonotic
[16:53] <FruitieX> whereas game content should be loaded from wherever you installed xonotic
[16:53] <k0rfi> Well, the path itself is correctly placed I believe
[16:53] <FruitieX> iirc it should point to the directory which contains data/ ?
[16:54] <packer> k0rfi, you use git?
[16:54] <packer> and compiled from source?
[16:54] <k0rfi> I don't think so, as I don't know what git is :)
[16:54] <k0rfi> I just got into mapping
[16:54] <packer> you downloaded mapping support package?
[16:54] <k0rfi> Yup
[16:55] <packer> and you put it into ~/.xonotic/data/
[16:55] <packer> ?
[16:55] <k0rfi> I just found out trying to switch the path makes netradiant give me an error and windows tell me that the program stopped working
[16:55] <packer> you use windows?
[16:55] <k0rfi> Yeah
[16:55] <k0rfi> Obviously :)
[16:56] <packer> so you put the pk3 into C:\Users\somepathidontknow\xonotic\data ?
[16:56] <packer> actually i dont even know what is inside the mappingsupport package
[16:56] <k0rfi> Nope I did not, I thought it was supposed to be in games\xonotic
[16:56] <k0rfi> or programs\xonotic
[16:56] <k0rfi> Or whatever
[16:56] <packer> i think Mario knows
[16:56] <packer> :)
[16:57] <packer> Mario, Mario
[16:57] <packer> :P
[16:57] <Smilecythe> i think he has just barely woke up
[16:57] <Smilecythe> and is working if hes up
[16:57] <k0rfi> Packer, the problem is that whenever I try to switch path the program crashes on me
[16:58] <packer> actually my path is: /home/user/programs/xonotic/game/
[16:58] <packer> it points to the folder where the xonotic binaries are located
[16:58] <packer> top folder of data
[16:59] <packer> sounds weird, that it crashes
[16:59] <k0rfi> Crashes whenever I try to switch to 4 screens instead of the shitty default one
[17:00] <Smilecythe> mine crashes when i run the damn thing
[17:00] <packer> then you are already two :P
[17:01] <k0rfi> I can run the thing at least :3
[17:01] <packer> maybe delete netradiant's configuration folder
[17:01] <packer> dont know where it is on windows
[17:01] <packer> application data
[17:01] <packer> :P
[17:02] <k0rfi> Me or smile?
[17:03] <packer> you
[17:03] <packer> :)
[17:05] <k0rfi> Exactly what file should I delete?
[17:05] <k0rfi> Or folder
[17:06] <packer> the windows equivalent to /home/user/.netradiant/1.5.0
[17:06] <packer> in your settings folder for programs
[17:08] <k0rfi> Yeah I found the netradiantsettings folder
[17:08] <k0rfi> Should I delete the whole 1.5.0 folder?
[17:08] <packer> yes
[17:09] <k0rfi> Ok, I deleted the file, now start it up again I guess
[17:09] <packer> right
[17:09] <packer> should ask you for engine path again etc
[17:09] <k0rfi> It didn't
[17:09] <packer> :o
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[17:10] <k0rfi> Ah
[17:10] <k0rfi> I got it
[17:10] <k0rfi> Where should I put the path
[17:11] <packer> to the folder where your game is located
[17:11] <packer> C:/blabla/Xonotic
[17:11] <k0rfi> So for example D:/games/xonotic
[17:11] <k0rfi> ?
[17:11] <packer> yes
[17:11] <packer> if the data folder is
[17:11] <packer> D:/games/xonotic/data
[17:11] <packer> then
[17:12] <packer> D:/games/xonotic
[17:12] <packer> is the correct path
[17:12] <packer> ^^
[17:12] <hutty> ...
[17:12] <k0rfi> The thing is that instead of asking me for the xonotic path, it's asking me for warsow path
[17:12] <k0rfi> And since I'm doing mapping on xonotic this is wrong :)
[17:12] <Smilecythe> lol
[17:13] <hutty> what version of netradiant?
[17:13] <hutty> please tell me your using the one from git
[17:13] <k0rfi> 1,5,0
[17:13] <k0rfi> I guess
[17:13] <packer> isnt there a dropdown menu where you choose the game?
[17:14] <k0rfi> Yeah there is, wait I'll send screenshots instead
[17:14] <packer> and you cannot choose Xonotic?
[17:14] <hutty> that would help
[17:14] <k0rfi> http://puu.sh/34uWJ/8fd16bc7c6.png
[17:14] <k0rfi> http://puu.sh/34uXr/abf31be0ff.jpg
[17:14] <k0rfi> What exactly should I do now?
[17:14] <packer> http://s.devfull.de/img/b1293c97668d5b398dc74957a35b9bd7.jpg
[17:14] <hutty> yeah ... so ... click the dropdown and select xonotic
[17:15] <hutty> then click ok ... i guess
[17:15] <k0rfi> http://puu.sh/34v0n/5fd4d60978.jpg
[17:16] <hutty> read this http://dev.xonotic.org/projects/xonotic/wiki/Mapping-Setup
[17:16] <k0rfi> http://puu.sh/34v0L/cc38b0474e.png
[17:16] <k0rfi> Pressing ok launches the whole thing
[17:16] <hutty> and your textures arn't working ... right?
[17:16] <k0rfi> Right
[17:16] <hutty> do you have the mapping support package?
[17:17] <k0rfi> http://puu.sh/34v2Q/2e142dee19.png
[17:17] <hutty> net radiant cant read the .dds files that xonotic uses ... so
[17:17] <hutty> there is a separete download that has .jpeg versions
[17:17] <k0rfi> hmm
[17:17] <hutty> all explained here http://dev.xonotic.org/projects/xonotic/wiki/Mapping-Setup
[17:17] <k0rfi> I'll try redownloading the whole thing
[17:17] <hutty> well ... kinda explained
[17:18] <packer> k0rfi, you can try to rebuild the shader tag file
[17:18] <hutty> wait .... do you have the mapping suport file?
[17:18] <k0rfi> Yeah
[17:18] <packer> k0rfi, plugins > shaderplug > create tag file
[17:18] <hutty> and its in the data folder of xonotic?
[17:18] <k0rfi> What's in the data folder of xonotic?
[17:19] <hutty> xonotic/data
[17:19] <packer> several pk3 archives
[17:19] <hutty> yeah ... put it with those
[17:19] <k0rfi> I know what the data folder is, what should I place there, or what should be there?
[17:19] <hutty> if it isnt allready
[17:20] <hutty> do you know where xonotic is installed?
[17:20] <k0rfi> Which one of the folders? The one in C:\Users\User\Saved games etc?
[17:20] <k0rfi> Or the other one, where I acctually launch the game from?
[17:20] <packer> this is not tne engine path
[17:21] <packer> or do you want to know where to put the mappingsupport pk3?
[17:21] <packer> should not matter where you put the pk3
[17:22] <k0rfi> <hutty>and its in the data folder of xonotic?
[17:22] <hutty> but seriously .. read this http://dev.xonotic.org/projects/xonotic/wiki/Mapping-Setup
[17:22] <k0rfi> What do you mean
[17:22] <hutty> there are 2 data folders
[17:22] <k0rfi> Okay I will
[17:22] <hutty> one in saved games ... and one where xonotic is
[17:22] <hutty> put it in the xonotic data folder
[17:23] <hutty> the saved games data folder is where you save your maps and stuff
[17:24] <k0rfi> Step 4, which bloody "both of these folders"
[17:25] <k0rfi> If I'm not missing anything he hasn't written anything about two folders?
[17:25] <hutty> umm
[17:25] <hutty> i should fix that
[17:25] <hutty> it goes in the install data folder ... not the saved games one
[17:26] <hutty> although ... ive heard from some people that it works from both
[17:26] <hutty> heres what mine looks like http://wstaw.org/m/2013/05/30/plasma-desktopjA1801.png
[17:26] <hutty> although you wont have a folder named ignore ... you should ignore that
[17:27] <hutty> also ... ignore the no tag support warnig
[17:27] <hutty> i get that 2 ... ad my textures work
[17:28] <k0rfi> Okay, I'm still working on getting this setup though
[17:29] <k0rfi> Hutty, did you write this? If so, do you mean move or copy in step 5?
[17:29] <hutty> yeah ... i wrote this
[17:29] <hutty> copy is safer i guess
[17:30] <k0rfi> Oh btw
[17:30] <hutty> you must need the xonotic-maps-mapping.pk3 ... what happens to the .zip file doens't really matter
[17:31] <k0rfi> In step 3, my folder is in \users\user\saved games\xonotic
[17:31] <k0rfi> And not .xonotic
[17:31] <k0rfi> We are still talking about the same folder?
[17:31] <hutty> yeah ... .xonotic is what linux has
[17:31] <hutty> \home\.xonotic actually
[17:31] <k0rfi> Okay good
[17:32] <hutty> ~/ means your home folder
[17:32] <k0rfi> Ok, it might work now
[17:33] <k0rfi> Now when I double click the radiant.exe I get this screen
[17:33] <k0rfi> http://puu.sh/34vAD/0e547155ca.png
[17:33] <hutty> ok ... and can you pick xonotic?
[17:34] <k0rfi> Yes
[17:34] <hutty> ok
[17:34] <k0rfi> Then, OK?
[17:34] <hutty> wat do you get?
[17:34] <hutty> after ok
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[17:36] <k0rfi> It opens the netradiant
[17:36] <k0rfi> I got no choice to choose engine path
[17:36] <k0rfi> Even though I deleted the netradiantsetup folder aswel
[17:37] <hutty> no choice?
[17:37] <hutty> do you see a list of texture packs on the loower right paint
[17:37] <hutty> alphamod common deacals effecrs ex2x and such
[17:37] <k0rfi> http://puu.sh/34vIO/75de4753e3.png
[17:37] <k0rfi> The screen I get after clicking ok
[17:38] <hutty> ok
[17:38] <hutty> drag the console thing down
[17:38] <hutty> then in the whiite list box thing ... double click on exx
[17:39] <k0rfi> You want a screenie now?
[17:39] <k0rfi> http://puu.sh/34vMh/cced849954.png
[17:39] <hutty> :|
[17:40] <hutty> somethings broke
[17:40] <hutty> heres what mine loks like http://wstaw.org/m/2013/05/30/plasma-desktopox1801.png
[17:40] <k0rfi> Ofc something is broke...
[17:40] <k0rfi> :(
[17:41] <hutty> ok ....
[17:41] <hutty> go to edit -> prefrneces -> paths
[17:41] <hutty> whats your engine path
[17:41] <k0rfi> Trust me, it will crash :)
[17:41] <k0rfi> C:/Program Files/Xonotic/
[17:41] <hutty> going to prefrences?
[17:42] <hutty> ...
[17:42] <hutty> ok
[17:42] <k0rfi> No, but if I need to change path it will crash
[17:42] <hutty> ok ... then dont
[17:42] <hutty> go to your file browser
[17:42] <hutty> and bring up C:/Program Files/Xonotic/
[17:42] <hutty> what do you see?
[17:43] <k0rfi> I made a xonotic folder there earlier, because I couldn't see any textures at all before
[17:43] <JustinPL> Im back
[17:43] <JustinPL> What did I miss?
[17:43] <hutty> a screen would be helpful
[17:43] <hutty> JustinPL: a lot
[17:43] <JustinPL> hmm, from what I see it looks like bad path
[17:44] <JustinPL> did you checked it?
[17:44] <hutty> JustinPL: but i think we almost have it working
[17:44] <k0rfi> Justin
[17:44] <JustinPL> you are on Windows?
[17:44] <k0rfi> The big problem is that my netradiant stops working whenever I try to switch path in the netradiant itself
[17:44] <k0rfi> Yeah
[17:44] <hutty> then move xonotic :3
[17:45] <JustinPL> where do you have your xonotic 0.6?
[17:45] <JustinPL> D:/Korfi/xonotic-0.6.0/Xonotic?
[17:45] <k0rfi> I moved xonotic to the engine path itself (C:/Program Files/Xonotic/)
[17:45] <hutty> ok ...
[17:46] <JustinPL> then put this into preferences/path settings:
[17:46] <k0rfi> Because earlier I couldn't even see the texture options, now I can see them but as stated earlier in netradiant it's just "Shader image missing"
[17:46] <JustinPL> ok, try pressing 'plugins' in the menu
[17:46] <JustinPL> (in netradiant
[17:46] <JustinPL> then shader plug then create new tag
[17:47] <k0rfi> http://puu.sh/34w1H/3ff47cea82.png
[17:47] <k0rfi> Okay
[17:47] <JustinPL> shader tag, create new one
[17:47] <hutty> JustinPL: the problem has nothing to do with shader tag support
[17:47] <JustinPL> press ok
[17:47] <JustinPL> nth?
[17:47] <k0rfi> Tag filed saved to blablabla
[17:47] <k0rfi> restart
[17:47] <JustinPL> its worth a try :P
[17:47] <hutty> ok .... k0rfi give me a screen of (C:/Program Files/Xonotic/
[17:47] <hutty> C:/Program Files/Xonotic/data
[17:47] <hutty> actually
[17:47] <JustinPL> whats your version of netradiant anyway?
[17:48] <k0rfi> 1.5.0
[17:48] <hutty> and the netradiant about screen to make justin happy
[17:48] <k0rfi> http://puu.sh/34w4K/31d7d21644.png
[17:48] <hutty> JustinPL: i get Unable to find default tag file /home/hutty/stuf/Xonotic/mapping attempt2/netradiant-a035952/install/xonotic.game/shadertags.xml. No tag support. too ... but my shaders work
[17:48] <k0rfi> This is what you wanted to see I guess
[17:48] <hutty> wheres the maps-mapping.pk3?
[17:48] <hutty> its missing
[17:49] <k0rfi> That's in saved games\xonotic\data
[17:49] <hutty> oh ... yeah
[17:49] <k0rfi> Where your tutorial said to put it
[17:49] <hutty> put it in there too
[17:49] <hutty> lets see if that fixes it
[17:49] <hutty> ... so its in both places
[17:49] <k0rfi> Mkay in a sec
[17:50] <k0rfi> Ok it's there, should I try restarting netradian?
[17:50] <k0rfi> t
[17:50] <hutty> yeah
[17:50] <JustinPL> yes
[17:50] <JustinPL> http://forums.xonotic.org/showthread.php?tid=4118&pid=58188#pid58188 this might help as well
[17:51] <k0rfi> Great
[17:51] <k0rfi> http://puu.sh/34w9T/beb75e82c2.png
[17:51] <JustinPL> Couple of weeks ago I posted this to help some dude
[17:51] <k0rfi> I guess we all understand what it means even though it's swedish
[17:51] <hutty> crashing? ... i cant read that language ... what ever it is (german im guessing)
[17:52] <hutty> ah sweedish
[17:52] <JustinPL> read it carefully and make sure you have right folders in rightplaces
[17:52] <k0rfi> Radiant.exe has stopped working
[17:52] <hutty> i really dont know much about european languages
[17:52] <hutty> was this a crash on closing? ... or on reopening?
[17:52] <k0rfi> A problem made the program stop working correctly
[17:53] <k0rfi> Reopening
[17:53] <hutty> :|
[17:53] <hutty> hmm
[17:53] <hutty> try again?
[17:53] <k0rfi> The program was shut down and you will be messaged if there is a solution to the problem
[17:53] <k0rfi> Close program
[17:53] <JustinPL> k0rfi
[17:53] <JustinPL> http://forums.xonotic.org/showthread.php?tid=4118&pid=58188#pid58188
[17:53] <k0rfi> http://puu.sh/34wfF/26acbafaae.png
[17:53] <k0rfi> Sec
[17:54] <hutty> say no
[17:54] <JustinPL> press yes!
[17:54] <hutty> or yes
[17:54] <hutty> ...
[17:54] <JustinPL> ...
[17:54] <hutty> ...
[17:54] <k0rfi> Yes or no?
[17:54] <hutty> yes
[17:54] <JustinPL> download the netradiant from  http://beta.xonotic.org/autobuild/ and intall it again
[17:54] <hutty> ? will that really help?
[17:55] <JustinPL> and then follow the instructions I ve written in the post on the forum
[17:55] <k0rfi> This might be interesting for you guys
[17:55] <k0rfi> http://puu.sh/34wiR/2652974097.png
[17:55] <JustinPL> k0rfi might have set sth wrong in the preferences or so... dunno
[17:55] <k0rfi> Nah, I had problems with mapping on this pc earlier
[17:56] <k0rfi> Did not work
[17:56] <k0rfi> I'll try whatever Justin linked
[17:56] <hutty> netradiant is unstably
[17:56] <hutty> especially on windows ...
[17:56] <hutty> and its icons are ugly too ...
[17:56] <k0rfi> http://puu.sh/34wls/9eec7ea648.png
[17:56] <hutty> i should probably fix that
[17:56] <k0rfi> Excuse me but what?
[17:57] <hutty> xonotic
[17:57] <hutty> g-23
[17:57] <hutty> its to prevent the spambots
[17:57] <k0rfi> And then download what?
[17:57] <k0rfi> Okay
[17:57] <hutty> from eating the bandwidths
[17:57] <JustinPL> its written in the post :P
[17:57] <k0rfi> I just clicked the link you posted later :)
[17:57] <JustinPL> I think this problem might be due you don't have textures unpacked in the 'textures' folder
[17:57] <k0rfi> Download what? I see a crapton of shit
[17:57] <JustinPL> check your textures folder
[17:58] <JustinPL> download lastest mapping support.
[17:58] <hutty> JustinPL:  .. where are you going with this? ....
[17:58] <hutty> he allrady has the mapping support
[17:58] <JustinPL> the problem is that he has textures, but for some reason they aren't displayed, right?
[17:58] <k0rfi> Right
[17:59] <hutty> yeah
[17:59] <hutty> but we still dont know if they are in the right place
[17:59] <JustinPL> then in your xonotic/data/textures you have to have real textures. check it
[17:59] <hutty> ... i dont have a /textures ... accept whats in the pk3s.
[17:59] <JustinPL> if the folders are empty: We found solution
[17:59] <k0rfi> This is my xonotic\data folder... http://puu.sh/34wsM/c7f0932da0.png
[18:00] <hutty> and this doesn't work?
[18:00] <k0rfi> And what doesn't work?
[18:00] <k0rfi> All the setups so far? now
[18:00] <k0rfi> No*
[18:00] <hutty> did you run it since adding maps-mapping?
[18:01] <hutty> cause this totes should work
[18:01] <JustinPL> lol, just try one thing at time: Open with 7zip or with other program your maps-mapping pk3
[18:01] <JustinPL> select textures
[18:01] <JustinPL> and unpack it
[18:02] <JustinPL> restart netradiant and see if it worked
[18:02] <k0rfi> Okay, so I unzip the texture folder from maps-mapping
[18:03] <JustinPL> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/90490112/data.jpg
[18:03] <JustinPL> yeah
[18:03] <JustinPL> open it and see if they are actuall textures in there
[18:04] <k0rfi> Ok, gimme a sec, C: is administrative protected
[18:04] <JustinPL> open netradiant and in paths set this: C:/Xonotic/ or wherever you have xonotic...
[18:04] <k0rfi> There are textures in the folder textures, right
[18:04] <JustinPL> ok.
[18:05] <JustinPL> you have path set right?
[18:05] <k0rfi> I can't set the path
[18:05] <k0rfi> Because it crashes whenever I try
[18:05] <k0rfi> Ok, I'll try now
[18:06] <k0rfi> God, now I can't even open radiant.exe
[18:06] <k0rfi> Crashes :(
[18:06] <hutty> :O
[18:06] <k0rfi> I'm getting tired of this...
[18:07] <JustinPL> what does it say, when it crashes?
[18:07] <JustinPL> where do you have your netradiant.exe file?
[18:07] <k0rfi> Windows just give me the normal crashing error
[18:07] <JustinPL> and where do you have netradiant folder?
[18:07] <k0rfi> netradiant.exe has stopped working
[18:07] <k0rfi> my netradiant.exe file is in the place where I extracted it
[18:08] <k0rfi> D:\programs\netradiant
[18:08] <k0rfi> mapping etc
[18:08] <JustinPL> netradiant should be in the Xonitic/mapping/netradiant-1.5.0-20120301
[18:08] <k0rfi> Yeah
[18:08] <k0rfi> That's where it is
[18:08] <JustinPL> then I have no freakin idea whats wrong :(
[18:08] <JustinPL> mabye move everything to :D
[18:09] <k0rfi> I'm thinking of restarting everything that has anything with netradiant to do, and reinstall it
[18:09] <k0rfi> Good idea?
[18:09] <JustinPL> You said that where you have your Xonotic folder?
[18:09] <k0rfi> That my mapping is in my xonotic game folder?
[18:09] <k0rfi> No
[18:10] <JustinPL> it should be
[18:10] <JustinPL> xonotic\mapping
[18:10] <JustinPL> thats how it should be.
[18:10] <JustinPL> move it there
[18:10] <JustinPL> and try launhing netradiant as administrator
[18:10] <k0rfi> http://puu.sh/34wPF/595dca197c.png
[18:11] <JustinPL> I think you should move everything to D
[18:11] <k0rfi> That's where it is
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[18:11] <k0rfi> That's a problem though
[18:11] <k0rfi> I have to have the path in C:\program files\xonotic
[18:11] <k0rfi> Because I can't change it...
[18:12] <JustinPL> what?
[18:12] <JustinPL> Why?
[18:12] <k0rfi> Netradiant is glitchy as hell on my pc
[18:12] <k0rfi> I can't even turn the editing to 4 window mode
[18:12] <k0rfi> Cause netradiant is crashing on me
[18:12] <hutty> netradiant is glitch as hell on every pc
[18:12] <PYROGXPILOT> runs fine here
[18:13] <hutty> :O
[18:13] <hutty> omg what did you do
[18:13] <hutty> the only place ive seen it work well is debian based linux distros
[18:13] <hutty> anything else (windows suse mac) have problems
[18:13] <JustinPL> ok, whats the problems right now? You can't launch netradiant,You can't change path and you can't see textures?
[18:14] <k0rfi> Yeah, and I can't change to 4 view mode
[18:14] <k0rfi> But that's a minor problem
[18:14] <k0rfi> My biggest problem is that I can't launch it and then that I can't see textures
[18:14] <JustinPL> wait, how can you know if you can't start netradiant?
[18:14] <k0rfi> I was able to do it 30 mins ago
[18:15] <JustinPL> ah
[18:15] <JustinPL> then remove your mapping folder and download new one
[18:15] <JustinPL> you know where from?
[18:15] <hutty> maybe 4 window mode doesn't work on win. .. and thats whats crashing you
[18:15] <k0rfi> THat's why I thought of reinstalling netradiant
[18:15] <k0rfi> I've had default view all the time on this pc
[18:15] <hutty> k0rfi: yeah ... restartings a good idea at this point
[18:16] <JustinPL> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/90490112/4windows.jpg
[18:16] <JustinPL> it works for me
[18:16] <hutty> wait ... JustinPL ... your on windows?
[18:16] <JustinPL> yeah
[18:17] <JustinPL> check the jpg
[18:17] <JustinPL> :P
[18:17] <hutty> yeah ... im seeing that
[18:17] <PYROGXPILOT> if you dont see textures-might not have mapping support .pk3
[18:17] <JustinPL> we checked that. I think he has it.
[18:17] <hutty> i got it working for my lil bro on windows 7 ... but he runs into problems every now and then
[18:18] <k0rfi> We don't think we know
[18:18] <JustinPL> http://beta.xonotic.org/autobuild/
[18:18] <k0rfi> That's what I was going to ask, should I download that?
[18:18] <JustinPL> lastest mapping support
[18:18] <k0rfi> Ok good
[18:18] <JustinPL> download it
[18:18] <k0rfi> I did
[18:18] <PYROGXPILOT> http://beta.xonotic.org/autobuild/Xonotic-latest-mappingsupport.zip
[18:18] <JustinPL> unpack it
[18:18] <k0rfi> I will
[18:18] <JustinPL> put it in ther right places
[18:19] <k0rfi> Ok I unpacked
[18:19] <k0rfi> Can you step by step tell me what to do, so that I don't mess something up?
[18:19] <JustinPL> all right
[18:19] <JustinPL> wha tfolder do you have after unpacking it?
[18:20] <PYROGXPILOT> show a pic on your radiant path
[18:20] <JustinPL> It should be Xonotic
[18:20] <k0rfi> I unpacked it to D:\program\
[18:20] <k0rfi> And it made me a xonotic folder
[18:20] <JustinPL> in this Xonotic folder you should have folders data and mapping
[18:20] <k0rfi> Right.
[18:20] <JustinPL> right?
[18:20] <JustinPL> ok'
[18:21] <JustinPL> You place those two folders to the Xonotic folder (with game)[18:21] <JustinPL> and press: MERGE
[18:21] <k0rfi> The normal one
[18:21] <JustinPL> yes
[18:21] <k0rfi> The one where the path will be or where I acctually launch the game from?
[18:22] <JustinPL> wait, what?
[18:22] <JustinPL> You select the data and mapping and put them in your game folder
[18:22] <JustinPL> whats all, it will ask you if you want to replace those
[18:22] <k0rfi> I have to game folders, because netradiant forced me to make another one cause changing it's path made it crash on me
[18:22] * hutty hutty leaves in seach of food ,,, because its food time
[18:22] <JustinPL> you will then press 'marge'
[18:23] <JustinPL> don't think of paths now
[18:23] <JustinPL> you will do it later
[18:23] <k0rfi> I still have two game folders
[18:23] <k0rfi> Which one of them?
[18:23] <JustinPL> ok, lets do this simplier
[18:24] <JustinPL> press new xonotic folder
[18:24] <JustinPL> I mean: select it
[18:24] <k0rfi> The mapping one?
[18:24] <JustinPL> (the one unpacked from mapping support)
[18:24] <JustinPL> yeah
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[18:24] <k0rfi> We should do teamview instead, it's easier
[18:24] <JustinPL>  then ctrl +c
[18:25] <JustinPL> go to your dataD/program
[18:25] <k0rfi> I'm not a total noob at using the computer, I'm just not sure in what folder to put it
[18:25] <JustinPL> and press ctrl + v
[18:25] <Smilecythe> :D
[18:25] <JustinPL> then 'marge'
[18:26] <k0rfi> I already have a xonotic in D:\Program
[18:26] <k0rfi> ...
[18:26] <k0rfi> We should do teamview
[18:26] <JustinPL> yES YOU HAVE IT
[18:26] <JustinPL> PRSS marge files
[18:26] <k0rfi> What the hell is marge files
[18:26] <k0rfi> O.o
[18:27] <JustinPL> it basicaly asks you: Do you want to merge these files
[18:27] <JustinPL> merge*
[18:27] <JustinPL> you press yes and should be fine
[18:27] <JustinPL> 1.copy the Xonotic folder (unpacked from mapping support)
[18:28] <JustinPL> 2. paste it into Dator/Data(D)/Program[18:28] <JustinPL> Merge all files
[18:28] <JustinPL> thats all
[18:28] <k0rfi> When I paste it it just makes me a "Xonotic - copy"
[18:29] <JustinPL> change name to Xonotic
[18:29] <JustinPL> or you can't?
[18:29] <JustinPL> don't remember...
[18:29] <k0rfi> I can
[18:29] <k0rfi> Then yes?
[18:29] <JustinPL> ok, yes and merge
[18:29] <k0rfi> I don't get this
[18:30] <k0rfi> :(
[18:30] <k0rfi> I'm tired
[18:30] <k0rfi> Can we do teamview instead? :)
[18:31] <JustinPL> if that doesn't work do it manually: Go to Xonotic (unpacked from mappingsupport) open it and go to data. select whats inside and put it into your normal data folder (where the game is)
[18:31] <k0rfi> Ok I'll do that
[18:32] <JustinPL> do the same for 2 netradiant files (they are in your mapping Xonotic/mapping folder - unpacked from mapping support)
[18:32] <JustinPL> place them in folder mapping
[18:32] <k0rfi> I don't have a mapping folder in my game folder?
[18:32] <JustinPL> (in Xonotic/mapping - the 'real' one - from game)
[18:33] <JustinPL> create one
[18:33] <JustinPL> created it?
[18:33] <k0rfi> Yeah
[18:33] <JustinPL> tell me wht did you put there
[18:34] <k0rfi> Inside the game xonotic mapping folder?
[18:34] <JustinPL> yes
[18:34] <k0rfi> netradiant-1.5.0-20120301 and netradiant-1.5.0-20120301.tar
[18:34] <JustinPL> well done
[18:34] <JustinPL> open netradiant folder
[18:34] <JustinPL> netradiant-1.5.0-20120301
[18:34] <JustinPL> and launch netradiant
[18:35] <k0rfi> Inside the game folder?
[18:35] <JustinPL> radiant.exe
[18:35] <JustinPL> xonotic/mapping/netradiant-1.5.0-20120301
[18:35] <k0rfi> Okay the game folder.
[18:35] <k0rfi> From where I launch my game
[18:35] <JustinPL> yes
[18:35] <JustinPL> radiant.exe
[18:36] <k0rfi> Then the global preferences window comes up
[18:36] <JustinPL> ok
[18:36] <k0rfi> http://puu.sh/34xJL/c60d90dea0.png
[18:36] <k0rfi> Only thing that shows up
[18:36] <JustinPL> press ok
[18:36] <k0rfi> http://puu.sh/34xL6/b3d7b188cb.png
[18:37] <JustinPL> press yes
[18:37] <k0rfi> http://puu.sh/34xMp/a55258dca5.png
[18:37] <k0rfi> Ok I guess
[18:37] <k0rfi> Crash
[18:38] <JustinPL> what happens when you try to launchg it again?
[18:39] <JustinPL> did you try running it as admin.?
[18:39] <JustinPL> (right click/run as admin.)
[18:39] <k0rfi> Nope, I'll try as admin
[18:39] <k0rfi> I get to choose engine path now
[18:39] <k0rfi> o.O
[18:40] <k0rfi> Where should I set the path?
[18:40] <JustinPL> eh.. I thought you would allready know[18:40] <JustinPL> wait...
[18:40] <k0rfi> Well, better ask too many times then too few
[18:41] <JustinPL> dator/data(D)/program/xonotic
[18:41] <JustinPL> I think
[18:41] <JustinPL> one second
[18:41] <JustinPL> thats it
[18:42] <k0rfi> So, not my game folder?[18:44] <k0rfi> JustinPL
[18:45] <JustinPL> sorry
[18:45] <JustinPL> I was afk
[18:45] <JustinPL> this is your gamefolder
[18:45] <JustinPL> right?
[18:46] <JustinPL> the point is to choose path to your game: .../.../Xonotic/
[18:46] <k0rfi> No
[18:46] <k0rfi> That's my mapping folder
[18:46] <k0rfi> My game folder is D:\Games\xonotic
[18:46] <k0rfi> Is that where it is supposed to be?
[18:48] <JustinPL> then move your game folder (whole 'Xonotic' to the same place as the mapping folder)[18:49] <JustinPL> they should be in one place
[18:49] <k0rfi> Ah okay
[18:49] <JustinPL> .../Xonotic/- game and mapping folder
[18:50] <JustinPL> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/90490112/blahhhh.jpg
[18:50] <JustinPL> like this
[18:51] <JustinPL> see?[18:51] <k0rfi> Sec
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[18:51] <JustinPL> this is crucial, and probably a reson for all of these
[18:51] <k0rfi> Whenever I'm merging them
[18:52] <k0rfi> They're asking me to replace the data folder[18:52] <JustinPL> merge
[18:52] <PYROGXPILOT> http://9gag.com/gag/aX08yrg
[18:52] <JustinPL> what you moved where, gimme link
[18:52] <k0rfi> There is already a map with the name data
[18:52] <k0rfi> Do I want to merge the two datas?
[18:53] <JustinPL> mere them
[18:53] <JustinPL> merge*
[18:53] <k0rfi> Ok
[18:53] <JustinPL> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/90490112/blahhhh.jpg
[18:53] <JustinPL> should look like this :P
[18:53] <JustinPL> show me the screen
[18:53] <k0rfi> Merge mapping aswel?
[18:53] <k0rfi> Wait, why is there two mappings
[18:54] <k0rfi> O.o
[18:54] <k0rfi> I'll skip that one, since it's not supposed to be there
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[18:54] <k0rfi> Right?
[18:54] <JustinPL> you should have one mapping folder in your xonotic folder
[18:55] <JustinPL> gimme scrrn
[18:55] <JustinPL> screenshot
[18:55] <k0rfi> Soon, it hasn't finnished copyingh
[18:55] <k0rfi> http://puu.sh/34ypC/af2a1bfaf4.png
[18:55] <JustinPL> I hope you mada a backup :P
[18:55] <k0rfi> I did
[18:55] <k0rfi> :)
[18:55] <JustinPL> good!
[18:55] <JustinPL> open mapping folder
[18:55] <JustinPL> this one
[18:55] <JustinPL> from screenshot
[18:56] <JustinPL> wait!
[18:56] <JustinPL> why do you have Xonotic folder insled your xonotic folder?
[18:56] <JustinPL> what does it have inside?
[18:56] <k0rfi> My old map folder apparently
[18:57] <k0rfi> Should I remove them
[18:57] <JustinPL> map folder?
[18:57] <k0rfi> Yeah
[18:57] <JustinPL> open it and tell me what files are inside?
[18:57] <k0rfi> data and mapping
[18:57] <JustinPL> precisely
[18:57] <JustinPL> ah, remove it
[18:58] <JustinPL> open your mapping folder (the one visable in this screenshit) http://puu.sh/34ypC/af2a1bfaf4.png
[18:58] <JustinPL> and launch the netradiant[18:58] <JustinPL> and enjoy!
[18:58] <JustinPL> should be fine now
[18:58] <k0rfi> I need to set the path now
[18:58] <k0rfi> D:\Program\Xonotic
[18:58] <k0rfi> Right?
[18:59] <k0rfi> http://puu.sh/34yyC/6819a31035.png
[19:00] <k0rfi> JustinPL
[19:00] <k0rfi> I don't want to fuck this up
[19:00] <JustinPL> yes
[19:00] <JustinPL> or DATA(D:) but I think D: should do
[19:00] <JustinPL> D:\Program\Xonotic
[19:00] <JustinPL> no no
[19:00] <JustinPL> thats wrong
[19:01] <JustinPL> It should be:
[19:01] <JustinPL> D:/Program/Xonotic
[19:01] <k0rfi> Yeah, that's what I meant
[19:01] <JustinPL> notD:\Program\Xonotic
[19:01] <k0rfi> D:\Program\Xonotic
[19:01] <Smilecythe> with /s not \s[19:01] <JustinPL> yes
[19:01] <k0rfi> http://puu.sh/34yDl/566b06dc02.png
[19:02] <k0rfi> Hopefully I can launch it now at least :3
[19:02] <JustinPL> nope
[19:02] <JustinPL> nope nope
[19:02] <k0rfi> Okay
[19:02] <Smilecythe> change the \s to /!
[19:02] <JustinPL> listen to Smilecythe
[19:02] <k0rfi> I clicked the browse thing though
[19:02] <JustinPL> listen to him!
[19:02] <k0rfi> Okay
[19:02] <JustinPL> you changed?
[19:02] <JustinPL> say/
[19:03] <k0rfi> http://puu.sh/34yG3/1292a6b4b3.png
[19:03] <k0rfi> Good now?
[19:03] <JustinPL> yes
[19:03] <Smilecythe> goal kick
[19:03] <JustinPL> haha
[19:03] <JustinPL> press ok
[19:03] <JustinPL> It has to woork[19:03] <k0rfi> FUCK THIS
[19:04] <JustinPL> works?
[19:04] <PYROGXPILOT> Im surprsed there isnt a post how to set up radiant
[19:04] <k0rfi> Obviously not
[19:04] <JustinPL> what does it say?
[19:04] <k0rfi> Radiant.exe has stopped working
[19:04] <Smilecythe> im surprised its so hard to set it up in the first place
[19:04] <k0rfi> Enough mapping for me then I guess.
[19:04] <JustinPL> screenshot or it didn't happen
[19:04] <JustinPL> check your typo
[19:05] <JustinPL> mabye you wrote Xonitic
[19:05] <JustinPL> or sth
[19:05] <k0rfi> http://puu.sh/34yLn/c89dff36a9.png
[19:05] <Smilecythe> looks ok in the screenie
[19:06] <Smilecythe> hope you can speak vikingnese
[19:06] <JustinPL> haha
[19:06] <JustinPL> translate it,pls
[19:06] <k0rfi> Okay sec
[19:06] <k0rfi> Radiant.exe has stopped working
[19:06] <k0rfi> A problem made that the program stopped working correctly
[19:07] <k0rfi> The program was shut down and you will be messaged if there will be a solution to the problem
[19:07] <k0rfi> Close program
[19:07] <JustinPL> so everything is ok, I think
[19:08] <JustinPL> run it as admin and check if the same thing happens
[19:08] <JustinPL> if yes, you might as well commit suicide or google for the problem.
[19:08] <k0rfi> That's what I did
[19:09] <k0rfi> I'll try run it as an admin again then I guess
[19:09] <JustinPL> tell me what do you think might be wrong.
[19:09] <k0rfi> Crash
[19:09] <k0rfi> How would I know? :/
[19:10] <k0rfi> Only happens with this shit program..
[19:10] <k0rfi> I'll try put the path the other way around
[19:10] <JustinPL> did you launch netradiant from your Xonotic/mapping/netradiant-1.5.0-20120301?
[19:10] <k0rfi> Yes
[19:10] <JustinPL> did you set path properly?
[19:11] <JustinPL> so you have 2 files in mapping folder: netradiant-1.5.0-20120301 and netradiant-1.5.0-20120301.tar.bz2
[19:11] <JustinPL> and show me the screenshot of your data folder
[19:11] <JustinPL> Xonotic\data
[19:11] <k0rfi> http://puu.sh/34z1I/b904cd7eb3.png
[19:12] <k0rfi> Why would I run the program from a .tar file?
[19:12] <JustinPL> where is the texture folder!?
[19:12] <k0rfi> I ofc run it through the normal folder
[19:12] <k0rfi> I don't have a texture folder!!
[19:12] <JustinPL> there isn't a texture folder and it should beif you want to make your own textures...
[19:12] <JustinPL> then unpack it from xonotic-20120308-maps-mapping.pk3
[19:12] <k0rfi> I mainly thought of using map textures
[19:13] <JustinPL> and put it into data/textures
[19:13] <JustinPL> do i anyway
[19:13] <k0rfi> Okay I will
[19:13] <k0rfi> http://puu.sh/34z6e/a390a09ce3.png
[19:13] <k0rfi> Xonotic/data
[19:13] <JustinPL> and open it and check textures
[19:14] <k0rfi> There is textures there
[19:14] <k0rfi> But that's not the big problem now, I can't even launch the bloody map maker...
[19:14] <JustinPL> real ones? Like jpgs and pngs?
[19:14] <JustinPL> I know I know
[19:14] <k0rfi> Yes real ones
[19:14] <JustinPL> you have to google your error, thats the only way
[19:14] <k0rfi> I'm really tired on this shit...
[19:14] <JustinPL> or try launching netradiant again.. when exactly it crashes?
[19:15] <JustinPL> me too :P
[19:15] <hutty> ... oh god ... this is still happening?
[19:15] <JustinPL> don't worry I had similar problems with netradiant, but when you are done with them, its rly cool software...
[19:15] <JustinPL> damn, hutty
[19:15] <hutty> what?
[19:15] <JustinPL> we reinstalled everything
[19:16] <JustinPL> and it still crushes
[19:16] <k0rfi> It crashes directly
[19:16] <hutty> :0
[19:16] <hutty> :o
[19:16] <hutty> :O
[19:16] <JustinPL> he even put mapping folder in the right place
[19:16] <hutty> sounds pretty bad
[19:16] <JustinPL> there has to be sth wrong with game folder itself, dunno
[19:16] <JustinPL> Im tired
[19:16] <hutty> did he have any crash logs?
[19:17] <k0rfi> I could try enable logging
[19:17] <k0rfi> And I'll send you a crash log if I get one
[19:17] <hutty> k0rfi: post your problems with any crash logs on the xonotic forums
[19:17] <k0rfi> Where should I get a crash log if I get any?
[19:18] <hutty> um ... i dont know
[19:18] <hutty> if you run it from commandline ... it might spit sonething out there when in crashes
[19:19] <k0rfi> It did not
[19:19] <hutty> ... welp ... post your thing on the forums anyways
[19:20] <hutty> then on of the developers will see it ... (samual divverent)[19:20] <k0rfi> Link to the forums? I haven't ever used them[19:21] <hutty> http://forums.xonotic.org/
[19:21] <k0rfi> What subforum should I use? Help and troubleshooting?
[19:22] <hutty> yup
[19:27] <k0rfi> http://puu.sh/34zEh/3ba53776e9.png[19:27] <k0rfi> What else should I say
[19:28] <k0rfi> hutty
[19:28] <hutty> um
[19:28] <hutty> a link to the chat log
[19:28] <hutty> this chat log
[19:29] <hutty> from paste.ubuntu.com or some similar site
[19:30] <hutty> and probably decribing when and how it crashes with a little more detail
[19:30] <JustinPL> and say what netradiant version you have and where your folders are
[19:31] <JustinPL> and when you are in the forums check my maps :D Damn I think I deserved that :P
[19:31] <Smilecythe> yes, justin's maps are win
[19:31] <JustinPL> I hope you will have your netradiant fixed in no time
[19:32] <JustinPL> I saw your video, Smilecythe on YT
[19:32] <Smilecythe> oh, which one?
[19:32] <JustinPL> the one on the eggbacon
[19:32] <Smilecythe> sweet
[19:32] <JustinPL> with professional casting
[19:32] <JustinPL> ;)
[19:32] <Smilecythe> yes i know it's bit too serious
[19:32] <JustinPL> 'does it look like an aimbot for you?'
[19:33] <JustinPL> :D
[19:33] <Smilecythe> does it? ;o
[19:33] <JustinPL> yeah
[19:34] <Smilecythe> yes i set it so i miss 49% of times
[19:34] <Smilecythe> very convenient and humanlike looking
[19:35] <Smilecythe> i can play while eating hotdog with my mouse hand


[19:36] <k0rfi> Can anyone setup a chatlog to a pastebin or something? I don't really know how that works and I don't think I have the whole chatlog