12:11:28 AM [#] [MateoC] I think that we should just use C
12:11:32 AM [#] [MateoC] There's M_PI
12:11:35 AM [#] [dTal] jacobly: so you disagree with the use of nonlethal weapons
12:11:36 AM [prgmTrouble] I don't degree
12:11:41 AM [#] [MateoC] But no M_TAU
12:12:01 AM [#] [jacobly] I wouldn't say lethal weapons are easier, but that's just me
12:12:13 AM [_iPhoenix_] I vote lethal weapons. JUST FREAKING SETTLE THE ISSUE!
12:12:30 AM [#] [jacobly] #define M_TAU (M_PI/2)
12:12:51 AM [#] [jacobly] / because that's how I'm defining it
12:13:11 AM [#] [MateoC] Haha jacobly++
12:13:19 AM [prgmTrouble] #define M_TAU (2M_PI)
12:13:27 AM [#] [jacobly] SYNTAX ERROR
12:13:43 AM [#] [MateoC] ERR: Internal error 3214324
12:13:51 AM [#] [MateoC] Please contact Technical Support
12:14:01 AM [#] [MateoC] That's about as good as ZDS does
12:14:10 AM [#] [dTal] I don't think that'll work, won't the macro expand to 23.14159...
12:14:18 AM [#] [jacobly] no
12:14:22 AM ***prgmTrouble <
12:14:24 AM [#] [jacobly] it is a syntax erro
12:14:25 AM [#] [jacobly] r
12:14:49 AM ***prgmTrouble <--
12:14:37 AM [#] [jacobly] because 2M_PI is not a valid number
12:14:52 AM [#] [jacobly] and M_PI2 would be undefined
12:15:04 AM [prgmTrouble] mah name
12:15:17 AM [#] [MateoC] Good thing M_2PI is sometimes defined
12:15:31 AM [prgmTrouble] its a conspiracy
12:15:56 AM [prgmTrouble] it's
12:16:23 AM [#] [dTal] my reaction on learning about Tau was "how could I, and especially the people around me, have been so stupid"
12:16:47 AM [#] [dTal] I am baffled by the pi-defenders
12:16:56 AM [prgmTrouble] I blame the government
12:17:42 AM [prgmTrouble] the government put dihydrogen monoxide in our water
<snip> (Mateo believes Diameter is easier to measure then Radius, then
dTal talks nerd stuff, which gets Mateo (and everyone else) confused)
12:19:32 AM [prgmTrouble] use DEG
12:19:44 AM [ReGuess] use GRAD
12:19:57 AM [#] [Ivoah] Use Tai
12:20:14 AM [prgmTrouble] use calculator
*more nerd stuff from dTal
*nerd arguing
12:23:09 AM [#] [MateoC] Let's just go do something productive like fix Mateo's scaling routine
12:23:11 AM [#] *MateoC hides
12:23:32 AM [#] [Ivoah] Or solve integrals
12:23:44 AM [prgmTrouble] or use degrees
*nerd stuff from jacobly
12:24:47 AM [#] [MateoC] Have fun drawing your unit circle in terms of tau :P
12:25:19 AM [prgmTrouble] just do double the existing fraction
12:25:31 AM [ReGuess] prgmTrouble, if you like degrees so much, tell me, what's the formula for the length of an arc of a circle with radius r through an angle theta
12:25:32 AM [#] [dTal] MateoC: I don't see the problem
12:26:05 AM [#] [jacobly] even better with degrees, what d/dx sin(x) where is is degrees :P
12:26:10 AM [#] [jacobly] *x
*dTal talking about integrals of [zZz]
*prgmTrouble thinking about cosx, incorrectly.
12:28:24 AM [_iPhoenix_] Awkward Silence :)
12:29:16 AM [_iPhoenix_] did dTal explode everyone's brains?
12:29:17 AM [prgmTrouble] reguess: 2pi*r*theta/360
12:29:47 AM [_iPhoenix_] lel pi in degrees
12:30:01 AM [ReGuess] correct.
12:30:19 AM [_iPhoenix_] prgmTrouble had to ReGuess
12:30:21 AM [prgmTrouble] using pi as a ratio -_-
12:30:42 AM [_iPhoenix_] ik
*ReGuess gives me karma
*nikkybot fangirling over tswilliamson for no reason
12:31:56 AM [ReGuess] I'm working on the derivative. Let u = tau*x/360. d/dx sin(360*u/tau) = cos(360*u/tau)du/dx =...
*Nerd ^^
12:32:50 AM [ReGuess] (tau/360)cosx
*Much nerd ^^
12:33:39 AM [prgmTrouble] pi/180*cosx
12:33:48 AM [prgmTrouble] if x is in degrees
*he's all about degrees, 'bout degrees, prgmTrouble
*updated the post*
12:34:07 AM [ReGuess] 0x5 _iPhoenix_++
12:34:10 AM [#] [jacobly] heh, that work was wrong but the answer was right...
12:34:11 AM [_iPhoenix_] :)
12:34:16 AM [ReGuess] I wear that label with pride
12:34:59 AM [#] [Pieman] I love it when i get the answer right with the wrong work! :P
12:35:21 AM [ReGuess] is it wrong because of my choice of fundamental constant? or was my work actually wrong?
12:36:18 AM [#] [jacobly] well the last step doesn't follow, so something earlier was wrong if you got the right answer
12:36:40 AM [#] [jacobly] maybe?
12:37:37 AM [prgmTrouble] hmmm
*extreme nerdism happening
12:37:47 AM [ReGuess] cos(360*u/tau)du/dx = cos(360*u/tau)(tau/360) = (tau/360)cos(x)
12:38:11 AM [ReGuess] chain rule
*minds go boom
12:38:24 AM [#] [jacobly] I'm just confused because you substituted for x
12:38:35 AM [#] [Pieman] @#$% it! I just remembered that I have a huge-a calculus test tomorrow...
12:38:41 AM [#] [Pieman] Rip
12:38:48 AM [#] *Pieman dies
12:38:51 AM [ReGuess] oh. me too.
*ReGuess, you'll ace it...
12:39:04 AM [prgmTrouble] I only have a quiz
*so do I
12:39:43 AM [prgmTrouble] on F$%^ trig integrals with u substitutions and a log rule
12:40:03 AM ***prgmTrouble rage quits life
*but then you won't be there for your quiz
12:40:07 AM [ReGuess] Yeah, you need to study
12:40:27 AM [ReGuess] if the chat logs are any measure.
*I'm keeping the log(chat
12:40:28 AM [#] *Pieman hands prgmTrouble a table to flip
12:40:55 AM [_iPhoenix_] ~flip
12:40:56 AM [#] [DoorsCS] （╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
12:41:17 AM [prgmTrouble] 0x5
*ReGuess goes to bed
12:41:49 AM [Cemetech] _iPhoenix_ edited a post in [Tau vs Pi]
12:43:49 AM [_iPhoenix_] :)
12:43:59 AM [_iPhoenix_] I kept the log(chat
12:44:09 AM [prgmTrouble] priceless
*prgmTrouble talks about how number theory, asks how can we count with certainty anymore, and becomes a George Orwell-citing conspiracy theorist.
12:47:49 AM [prgmTrouble] there's a glitch in the matrix. the world isn't real
12:48:24 AM [prgmTrouble] "2+2=5" -George Orwell
12:49:08 AM [prgmTrouble] Big Bang (Theory)
12:49:20 AM [#] [MateoC] Evolution is just a theory
*Mateo, look at 2/3 of my programs in the archives
12:49:30 AM [prgmTrouble] #ItsOnlyATheory
12:49:57 AM [#] [Pieman] C is just a theory
12:50:01 AM [#] *Pieman hides
*burn mateo
*I roast prgmTrouble for using the word 'triggered' offensively. He promptly runs to the bomb shelter.
12:51:43 AM [prgmTrouble] people are only theories
12:52:11 AM ***_iPhoenix_ has to gtg
*<snip> I'm back
*prgmTrouble acts like a jerk (jk)
*I tell him to stop, Ivoah asks me why?
*Alex (comic) tells people to stop, everyone listens
12:58:08 AM ***prgmTrouble waits for a "[Cemetech] _iPhoenix_ added a post in [Tau vs Pi]" to happen with an annotation
12:58:31 AM [_iPhoenix_] Sure
*an annotation