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  1. [2011-12-19 00:01:24] <Dkay_> I just imagined what Armas would do if he got into a fight with bunch of regular thugs. He would troll them with ridiculous kung-fu positions which make no sense and beat them anyway
  2. [2011-12-19 00:02:13] <Dkay_> And, of course, while being clad in some swag outfit
  3. [2011-12-19 00:02:26] <Ironybot> Probably, yeah. And he'd steal their wallets before hurting them.
  4. [2011-12-19 00:02:48] <Ironybot> Possibly loudly and mockingly count the contents in order to piss them off.
  5. [2011-12-19 00:04:51] <Arkeus> morning
  6. [2011-12-19 00:06:13] <Dkay_> morning
  7. [2011-12-19 00:06:37] <Abeo> What time is it where you live?
  8. [2011-12-19 00:06:46] <Arkeus> 7am
  9. [2011-12-19 00:09:28] <Arkeus> Ironybot: that sounds so trolly
  10. [2011-12-19 00:09:44] <Ironybot> Trolls gotta troll, man.
  11. [2011-12-19 00:11:44] <Arkeus> I guess that npw bob's watching DBZ abridged, we can except a small litlle black man with a carpet running on souls
  12. [2011-12-19 00:12:19] <Abeo> I could dig it
  13. [2011-12-19 00:21:38] -->| Falconis (~chatzilla@86A38B28.2BE5046E.DF1782C1.IP) has joined #golemquest
  14. [2011-12-19 00:21:44] <Falconis> Fanart posted
  15. [2011-12-19 00:21:48] <Falconis> hopefully not too late
  16. [2011-12-19 00:21:59] <Falconis> or too...unconventional
  17. [2011-12-19 00:22:18] <Falconis> so what's happenin in here?
  18. [2011-12-19 00:23:07] <Falconis> ...I'll take that as nothing or everybody being asleep
  19. [2011-12-19 00:23:08] <Ironybot> Not a ton. Nice art. Kind of surreal.
  20. [2011-12-19 00:23:30] <Falconis> ah, that's the word I was looking for
  21. [2011-12-19 00:23:39] <Falconis> thanks Irony, you know all the best words
  22. [2011-12-19 00:23:44] <Ironybot> Bob is currently writing an update, or so the rumor goes; I'm not sure if your art is in time. Hopefully, though.
  23. [2011-12-19 00:24:18] <Falconis> yea, I would hate to do another fanart that does absolutely nothing
  24. [2011-12-19 00:24:20] <Falconis> :I
  25. [2011-12-19 00:24:45] <Ironybot> It looks rather nice for a nothing.
  26. [2011-12-19 00:25:07] <BUTTZ> Kind of surreal?
  27. [2011-12-19 00:25:15] <Falconis> thanks, the sentiment is appreciated
  28. [2011-12-19 00:25:19] <BUTTZ> Just send Bob a PM
  29. [2011-12-19 00:25:26] <Falconis> good idea
  30. [2011-12-19 00:25:31] <Dkay_> It's pretty damn good
  31. [2011-12-19 00:25:38] <BUTTZ> Tell him "Yo check out my fat fanart"
  32. [2011-12-19 00:26:04] <Abeo> Ooooooh, shniy.
  33. [2011-12-19 00:26:09] <Abeo> *shiny
  34. [2011-12-19 00:26:17] <BUTTZ> Falconis yours is like something out of Big Trouble in Little China
  35. [2011-12-19 00:26:31] <Falconis> cool
  36. [2011-12-19 00:27:01] <Abeo> That movie, while awesome, still kinda bugs me
  37. [2011-12-19 00:27:11] <BUTTZ> Why's that?
  38. [2011-12-19 00:27:39] <Abeo> Those three really powerful guys everyone is so afraid of
  39. [2011-12-19 00:27:47] <Abeo> One gets so mad he explodes
  40. [2011-12-19 00:28:11] <Abeo> Another dies because he spends his time slowly walking down a hallway shooting the walls with lightning instead of doing anything useful
  41. [2011-12-19 00:28:51] <Abeo> Or so my recollection goes
  42. [2011-12-19 00:29:13] <BUTTZ> The explodey one blew up after his master died
  43. [2011-12-19 00:29:16] <BUTTZ> He suicided
  44. [2011-12-19 00:29:58] <Abeo> Ah, see, I was barely paying attention
  45. [2011-12-19 00:30:28] <Abeo> They were pretty sweet with the synchronized kukri throwing though
  46. [2011-12-19 00:30:39] <BUTTZ> And Lightning Rod gave it up after a long chase and died because he was careless in getting through a choke point if I remember rightly
  47. [2011-12-19 00:32:37] <Abeo> I'm dissapointed that the magical badasses let themselves get beat by a ragtag group of nobodies stoned out of their gourd
  48. [2011-12-19 00:36:07] <BUTTZ> To be fair they were stoned on magic drugs
  49. [2011-12-19 00:36:18] <BUTTZ> Apparently very potent
  50. [2011-12-19 00:37:07] <BUTTZ> Also, at least one of the ragtag nobodies was a latent luck manipulator
  51. [2011-12-19 00:37:22] <BUTTZ> I mean if you watch the movie the signs are right there the entire time
  52. [2011-12-19 00:37:57] <Falconis> hmmm
  53. [2011-12-19 00:37:59] <BUTTZ> Of course he was too much of a jackass to realize what he was doing
  54. [2011-12-19 00:38:01] <BUTTZ> But he was doing it!
  55. [2011-12-19 00:38:05] <Abeo> Isn't that a requirment for all protagonists?
  56. [2011-12-19 00:38:14] <BUTTZ> Nah
  57. [2011-12-19 00:38:26] <Falconis> so anybody up for trying to work out the 'world eye' thing now via Abolec?
  58. [2011-12-19 00:38:36] <BUTTZ> Lots of protagonists end up struggling through their whole story
  59. [2011-12-19 00:38:44] <Abeo> True.
  60. [2011-12-19 00:38:57] <Arkeus> Falconis: let's see the update first
  61. [2011-12-19 00:39:03] <Arkeus> lots of things could be happening
  62. [2011-12-19 00:39:05] <Falconis> kaaaaaay
  63. [2011-12-19 00:39:37] <Abeo> "It's ten minutes in before I finally stop being subjected to such a brutal, unending barrage-and she stalks off in a hiss,"
  64. [2011-12-19 00:39:41] <Abeo> "hiss"
  65. [2011-12-19 00:39:50] <Abeo> Makes me think
  66. [2011-12-19 00:40:02] <Falconis> because I think it would be nice to get the world eye done before the Doony fight
  67. [2011-12-19 00:40:23] <Arkeus> Because there is the Auction coming up, and then Devil
  68. [2011-12-19 00:40:37] <Abeo> Are people still paranoid about the world eye letting people see into our eye?
  69. [2011-12-19 00:40:42] <Falconis> I'm not
  70. [2011-12-19 00:40:43] <Arkeus> So it will be nice to get Auction done at least before getting another project up
  71. [2011-12-19 00:40:53] <Abeo> I am also not paranoid about that
  72. [2011-12-19 00:41:13] <Arkeus> Abeo: Well, Darkening, especially if we get 100%, should be really good at hiding our eye
  73. [2011-12-19 00:41:19] <Falconis> it would be a rather shitty camera that allowed people to see into your monitor room
  74. [2011-12-19 00:41:52] <Abeo> I generally believe that the only beings capable of using the world eye to backtrace us would be capable of doing so regardless
  75. [2011-12-19 00:41:57] <BUTTZ> http://images.4chan.org/tg/src/1324273107152.gif
  76. [2011-12-19 00:42:16] <Falconis> Cats are evil
  77. [2011-12-19 00:42:27] <Falconis> and why is that bastard so fat
  78. [2011-12-19 00:42:32] <Falconis> (the cat I mean)
  79. [2011-12-19 00:43:05] <Abeo> That monitor should have been further back on that surface
  80. [2011-12-19 00:43:22] <BUTTZ> Shoulda been secured
  81. [2011-12-19 00:43:30] <Arkeus> Abeo: the cat had moved it a bit before
  82. [2011-12-19 00:43:41] <BUTTZ> It's not hard to put down some mounting wax
  83. [2011-12-19 00:43:43] <Arkeus> to prepare for its pets' punishment
  84. [2011-12-19 00:44:09] <Abeo> It was on the front half of the surface, which is silly
  85. [2011-12-19 00:45:04] <Abeo> I wonder if the prophecy spirit would work through the Worl Eye....
  86. [2011-12-19 00:45:37] <Falconis> lets not get hasty
  87. [2011-12-19 00:46:27] <Abeo> Also, if we get that heart up and running, World Eye plus telepathy would make us a pretty good operational command
  88. [2011-12-19 00:47:00] <Abeo> Or SB because we have a terrible attention span.
  89. [2011-12-19 00:47:08] <Dkay_> I think we should focus on the Heart first
  90. [2011-12-19 00:47:36] <BUTTZ> I think we should do some soul sculpting
  91. [2011-12-19 00:47:50] <Abeo> I am somewhat reluctant to agree that the heart is a good idea
  92. [2011-12-19 00:48:11] <Falconis> the heart... seems to have more possible side effects
  93. [2011-12-19 00:48:16] <BUTTZ> It's too bad we can't keep the heart in a treasure chest shaped like a torso
  94. [2011-12-19 00:48:18] <Falconis> like mass control
  95. [2011-12-19 00:48:37] <Falconis> but it does have a lot of benefits...
  96. [2011-12-19 00:48:39] <Falconis> ...
  97. [2011-12-19 00:48:44] <BUTTZ> well I guess we could actually
  98. [2011-12-19 00:48:48] <Falconis> could we keep it in the demiplane?
  99. [2011-12-19 00:48:50] <Falconis> nahhhh
  100. [2011-12-19 00:49:26] <Abeo> I'm more concerned with how we get it up and running than with the operational hasards, to be honest
  101. [2011-12-19 00:49:34] <Abeo> *hazards
  102. [2011-12-19 00:50:13] <Falconis> I'm usually concerned with operational hazards
  103. [2011-12-19 00:50:30] <Falconis> because if we want something, we figure out a way eventually
  104. [2011-12-19 00:50:53] <Falconis> the only thing left is to make sure we don't screw up royally
  105. [2011-12-19 00:50:55] <BUTTZ> I want a vampire underling!
  106. [2011-12-19 00:51:18] <Falconis> hmm
  107. [2011-12-19 00:51:40] <Abeo> I want a vampire concubine!
  108. [2011-12-19 00:51:55] <Falconis> I want to find out if they have any more of Sithuros blood in storage
  109. [2011-12-19 00:52:05] <Falconis> and if there are any more qualified masters
  110. [2011-12-19 00:52:08] <Falconis> Amen could have lied
  111. [2011-12-19 00:52:13] <Falconis> son of a bitch
  112. [2011-12-19 00:52:21] <Abeo> Wouldn't actually have sex with them. Just have them around so we an say we have a concubine
  113. [2011-12-19 00:52:38] <Falconis> a harem that reads you bedtime stories
  114. [2011-12-19 00:52:41] <Falconis> awwww yeaaaa
  115. [2011-12-19 00:53:03] <BUTTZ> Falcon on reflection my only complaint about your art is that the dude isn't buff enough
  116. [2011-12-19 00:53:10] <Ironybot> We could make our vampire clan entirely out of women, just for shits and giggles.
  117. [2011-12-19 00:53:29] <BUTTZ> Why would you limit yourself by gender?
  118. [2011-12-19 00:53:31] <Falconis> yea, Amen seemd a bit more pissed off that usual when we stopped him from making deals with outside sources without our info
  119. [2011-12-19 00:53:57] <Falconis> errr -go ahead
  120. [2011-12-19 00:54:01] <Abeo> Notice I said "them". I specifically did not specify a gender
  121. [2011-12-19 00:54:24] <Abeo> oh, nvm, I thought you meant for the concubines
  122. [2011-12-19 00:54:31] <Falconis> that would be hilarious Irony
  123. [2011-12-19 00:54:33] <Falconis> do it
  124. [2011-12-19 00:55:13] |<-- Shifter28 has left irc.rizon.net (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
  125. [2011-12-19 00:56:20] <Abeo> Making a vampire clan is really kinda insane.
  126. [2011-12-19 00:56:20] <Falconis> http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs13/f/2007/060/5/d/The_Eye_of_the_World_by_AnubisServent.jpg
  127. [2011-12-19 00:56:41] <Falconis> this is not my art, just making that clear from the get go
  128. [2011-12-19 00:57:56] <Abeo> The name of the file makes that pretty obvious
  129. [2011-12-19 01:00:27] <Falconis> ...not really, not unless you knew me. But ok
  130. [2011-12-19 01:01:54] * BUTTZ takes a note
  131. [2011-12-19 01:02:04] <Abeo> True, I have no way of knowing what other names you go by.
  132. [2011-12-19 01:02:06] <BUTTZ> Falcon... worships....Anubis...
  133. [2011-12-19 01:02:12] <Falconis> :I
  134. [2011-12-19 01:02:37] * Falconis sets fire to BUTTZ
  135. [2011-12-19 01:03:02] <BUTTZ> Ha! I fireproof my clothes ever since that accident with the camp fire!
  136. [2011-12-19 01:03:15] <BUTTZ> Where I set my hand on fire
  137. [2011-12-19 01:03:20] <Arkeus> mmmh, going to make the mistake of buying self some organge juice
  138. [2011-12-19 01:03:23] <Falconis> so I guess your clothes will be fine
  139. [2011-12-19 01:03:23] <Arkeus> be back soon
  140. [2011-12-19 01:04:05] <BUTTZ> So we've got like 9 fanarts + 2 banked + a limerick
  141. [2011-12-19 01:04:17] <Arkeus> +3333+palindrome
  142. [2011-12-19 01:04:18] <Arkeus> yes
  143. [2011-12-19 01:04:31] <Abeo> Why would you fireproof your clothes? That's exactly what the ninjas want!
  144. [2011-12-19 01:04:32] <BUTTZ> I, uh, got distracted and couldn't finish the Rocco/Armas sexytime fanfic
  145. [2011-12-19 01:04:33] -->| EvilP (~kvirc@9112B03A.A1CBBBD4.3368CC3F.IP) has joined #golemquest
  146. [2011-12-19 01:04:39] <Abeo> Also, orange juice is fucking amazing
  147. [2011-12-19 01:04:54] <Arkeus> yes it is
  148. [2011-12-19 01:04:56] <Arkeus> also expensive
  149. [2011-12-19 01:05:04] <BUTTZ> I drink a jug of it each week
  150. [2011-12-19 01:05:21] <Falconis> I squeeze my own
  151. [2011-12-19 01:05:39] <BUTTZ> Three eggs, bacon, flapjacks or waffles, hashbrowns or home fries, grits or toast.
  152. [2011-12-19 01:05:47] <Abeo> That sounds like an inefficient use of your time
  153. [2011-12-19 01:05:48] <Falconis> wow
  154. [2011-12-19 01:06:05] <Abeo> That sounds like eating at Denny's
  155. [2011-12-19 01:06:08] <Abeo> Concentrate
  156. [2011-12-19 01:06:09] <Falconis> it's just squeezing oranges man
  157. [2011-12-19 01:06:16] <Falconis> nothing much
  158. [2011-12-19 01:06:31] <Falconis> I can do that while the rest of breakfast is cooking if anything
  159. [2011-12-19 01:06:40] <Abeo> I suppose
  160. [2011-12-19 01:07:13] <Abeo> I'm pretty lazy.
  161. [2011-12-19 01:07:21] =-= mib_zaz45z is now known as Grail
  162. [2011-12-19 01:07:31] <Abeo> So I just drink the concentrated stuff
  163. [2011-12-19 01:07:42] <Falconis> I have the trees in the yard
  164. [2011-12-19 01:07:46] <Falconis> so yea
  165. [2011-12-19 01:07:54] <Falconis> gotta make use of the stuff I got
  166. [2011-12-19 01:07:59] <Abeo> Never drink orange juice that claims to be "not from concentrate" or "squeezed from fresh oranges"
  167. [2011-12-19 01:08:14] <Falconis> ...why now?
  168. [2011-12-19 01:08:26] <Abeo> The second is a marketing ploy
  169. [2011-12-19 01:08:41] <Abeo> It is true that the juice was squeezed from oranges when they were fresh
  170. [2011-12-19 01:09:12] <Abeo> but then they boil the juice at tempuratures high enoug hthat it breaks down almost all the sugars, leave it in giant vats for months, then add flavouring.
  171. [2011-12-19 01:09:25] <Falconis> I see
  172. [2011-12-19 01:09:39] <Abeo> Also, it is far more expensive
  173. [2011-12-19 01:09:47] <Falconis> yea, that's why the orange juice in the states tastes liek crap
  174. [2011-12-19 01:10:22] <Abeo> Orange juice that isn'ta little bit tart wierds me out
  175. [2011-12-19 01:10:48] <Falconis> man, it's like getting used to poison
  176. [2011-12-19 01:11:07] <Falconis> the tart-ness comes from the skins too
  177. [2011-12-19 01:11:15] <Falconis> because they just drop em in there whole
  178. [2011-12-19 01:11:34] <Falconis> and super blend them... basically
  179. [2011-12-19 01:11:44] <Falconis> so you get flipping everything
  180. [2011-12-19 01:11:56] <Falconis> even the flipping acid, so annoying
  181. [2011-12-19 01:12:29] <Falconis> some of em do it down here too
  182. [2011-12-19 01:12:35] <Abeo> I LIKE acid
  183. [2011-12-19 01:12:41] <Falconis> screw acid
  184. [2011-12-19 01:12:51] <Abeo> acid is delicious
  185. [2011-12-19 01:12:53] <Falconis> ok.. not screw acid
  186. [2011-12-19 01:12:58] <Falconis> but really, not like that
  187. [2011-12-19 01:13:07] <Falconis> and it ruins my fresh juice taste
  188. [2011-12-19 01:13:57] <Abeo> See, when I eat oranges I want them to be a little tart
  189. [2011-12-19 01:14:00] <Falconis> that's also why you get that reaction from orange juice + toothpaste
  190. [2011-12-19 01:14:18] <Falconis> well...partly
  191. [2011-12-19 01:14:29] <Abeo> I have a way around that particular issue actually, just don't use toothpaste for that toothbrushing session
  192. [2011-12-19 01:14:33] |<-- Deadbeard has left irc.rizon.net (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
  193. [2011-12-19 01:14:38] <Falconis> ah
  194. [2011-12-19 01:14:41] <Falconis> coolz
  195. [2011-12-19 01:14:58] <Abeo> I'm not really a huge fan of sweet things
  196. [2011-12-19 01:15:09] <Falconis> I'm far too lazy, and plus I don't get the reaction from my freshly squeezed goodness
  197. [2011-12-19 01:15:20] <Abeo> That's cool
  198. [2011-12-19 01:15:35] <Falconis> yea, I like the sour oranges, gives the juice some zing
  199. [2011-12-19 01:15:36] <Abeo> I would likely dislike your orange juice for being too sweet
  200. [2011-12-19 01:15:42] <Abeo> Ah, nvm then
  201. [2011-12-19 01:15:49] <Falconis> we get all types,
  202. [2011-12-19 01:16:01] <Falconis> if it's just sweet I usually add lime
  203. [2011-12-19 01:16:02] <Abeo> I eat all of my fruit slightly unripe compared to most toher people's preferences
  204. [2011-12-19 01:16:27] <AlratanMobile> Did we get enough qualifying fanart?
  205. [2011-12-19 01:16:29] <Falconis> hmmm, only thing I could say that for is bananas
  206. [2011-12-19 01:16:44] <Abeo> I haven't heard anything from Bob on the issue
  207. [2011-12-19 01:16:45] <Falconis> because when they get ripe they get all soft and mushy
  208. [2011-12-19 01:16:56] <Falconis> I like em just before that stage
  209. [2011-12-19 01:17:15] <Abeo> Typically i am most fond of bananas when they still have a tinge of green on them
  210. [2011-12-19 01:17:34] <Falconis> lol
  211. [2011-12-19 01:17:35] <Abeo> If they get to the brown spotty stage they are gross
  212. [2011-12-19 01:17:55] <Abeo> I can taste the decay in them.
  213. [2011-12-19 01:17:58] <Falconis> lol
  214. [2011-12-19 01:18:11] <Abeo> Same thing with kiwi, actually
  215. [2011-12-19 01:18:30] <Falconis> little to no experience with Kiwi myself
  216. [2011-12-19 01:18:51] <Falconis> man, I can't wait until my Guava tree bears again
  217. [2011-12-19 01:18:55] <Abeo> other people will give me kiwi and I'll almost throw up because it is this soft, sweet, and slightly warmed by the decay, horror.
  218. [2011-12-19 01:19:10] <Falconis> lol
  219. [2011-12-19 01:19:20] <Arkeus> mmmh, orange juice
  220. [2011-12-19 01:19:26] <Abeo> But then, I'm the only person I know who eats kiwi whole
  221. [2011-12-19 01:19:39] <Arkeus> what other ways is there?
  222. [2011-12-19 01:19:39] <Arkeus> Oo
  223. [2011-12-19 01:19:43] <Falconis> :I
  224. [2011-12-19 01:19:49] <Abeo> The skin is delicious
  225. [2011-12-19 01:19:57] <Abeo> Many people just sort of scoop the flesh out of the skin
  226. [2011-12-19 01:20:02] <Arkeus> ewwwwwwwww
  227. [2011-12-19 01:20:06] <Abeo> I know!
  228. [2011-12-19 01:20:09] <Falconis> >_>
  229. [2011-12-19 01:20:36] <Abeo> I start at one end and just eat it. It's great, so long as you are careful not to get juices everywhere. No core to worry about.
  230. [2011-12-19 01:20:39] <Arkeus> Next you'll tell me people actually don't eat chicken with the skin
  231. [2011-12-19 01:20:45] <Falconis> <_<
  232. [2011-12-19 01:20:45] <Abeo> Whaaaat.
  233. [2011-12-19 01:20:49] <Abeo> That's crazy.
  234. [2011-12-19 01:21:14] <Falconis> also, screw wasps
  235. [2011-12-19 01:21:23] <Falconis> >brilliant cherry tree
  236. [2011-12-19 01:21:35] <Falconis> >ALMOST EVERY SINGLE CHERRY STUNG BY WASPS
  237. [2011-12-19 01:21:48] <Falconis> Y U DO DIS
  238. [2011-12-19 01:21:53] <Abeo> Or that they don't crush the bones of their prey to suck out the life-nourishing marrow.
  239. [2011-12-19 01:22:20] <Abeo> Not as bad as tent caterpillars.
  240. [2011-12-19 01:22:54] <Falconis> I hate bugs in general
  241. [2011-12-19 01:23:15] <Falconis> ants are cool though
  242. [2011-12-19 01:23:24] <Abeo> I don't mind them, just prefer they not eat me or land on my computer screen.
  243. [2011-12-19 01:23:28] <Falconis> as long as they do their thing where I don't encounter it
  244. [2011-12-19 01:23:32] <Falconis> we can be bros
  245. [2011-12-19 01:23:37] <Abeo> Spiders are good friends.
  246. [2011-12-19 01:23:59] <Falconis> the only spiders that survive here are Anansi
  247. [2011-12-19 01:24:11] <Falconis> and tiny jumping spiders
  248. [2011-12-19 01:24:59] <Falconis> anything else is killed with extreme prejudice
  249. [2011-12-19 01:25:31] <Abeo> So I googled "Anansi" and now I'm reading a west african folktale
  250. [2011-12-19 01:25:36] <Falconis> ...heh
  251. [2011-12-19 01:25:53] <Falconis> we call our Daddy long legs Anansi
  252. [2011-12-19 01:25:56] <Abeo> "Like Brer Rabbit in America, Anansi is a 'trickster' figure "
  253. [2011-12-19 01:26:12] <Falconis> yes, he is quite the trickster
  254. [2011-12-19 01:26:20] <Falconis> we have tons of stories about him
  255. [2011-12-19 01:26:25] <Falconis> used to be told all the time
  256. [2011-12-19 01:26:27] <Abeo> Awww
  257. [2011-12-19 01:26:36] <Falconis> but alas TV and internet
  258. [2011-12-19 01:26:44] <Falconis> nobody tells stories anymore
  259. [2011-12-19 01:27:00] <Falconis> tis sad, we are losing culture
  260. [2011-12-19 01:27:10] <Falconis> I still have a few books on em
  261. [2011-12-19 01:27:19] <Grail> Anansi is a wonderful mythological figure.
  262. [2011-12-19 01:27:38] <Falconis> he certainly is interesting
  263. [2011-12-19 01:27:46] <Abeo> I blame radio
  264. [2011-12-19 01:27:51] <Grail> One of the lucky ones that still has a good collection of tales.
  265. [2011-12-19 01:28:08] <Falconis> yeeep
  266. [2011-12-19 01:28:19] <Falconis> mostly him tricking the shit out of everyone else
  267. [2011-12-19 01:28:54] <Falconis> I was kinda weirded out when he ate Sis Hen though
  268. [2011-12-19 01:29:00] <Abeo> wow, he's a complete troll
  269. [2011-12-19 01:29:06] <Falconis> yes
  270. [2011-12-19 01:29:26] <Falconis> but moreso, a trickster
  271. [2011-12-19 01:30:54] <Falconis> doing stuff like going hunting with a friend, missing every shot, tricking him into carrying all the stuff back himself and then taking all the spoils
  272. [2011-12-19 01:31:19] <Falconis> or stealing Tiger's balls, which still makes me go wat
  273. [2011-12-19 01:31:29] <TheBeardiestBob> Getting pretty close
  274. [2011-12-19 01:31:49] <Arkeus> yeah
  275. [2011-12-19 01:32:58] <Falconis> hmm, used to have a bunch of anansi around
  276. [2011-12-19 01:33:05] <Falconis> wonder where they all went
  277. [2011-12-19 01:33:26] <Falconis> meh, I'm sure they are around
  278. [2011-12-19 01:33:36] <Falconis> keeping me mosquito free
  279. [2011-12-19 01:33:40] <Falconis> good little guys
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  281. [2011-12-19 01:34:33] <Abeo> Trickster gods are the best gods.
  282. [2011-12-19 01:35:07] <Falconis> sometimes
  283. [2011-12-19 01:35:25] <Falconis> but they are certainly the most entertaining
  284. [2011-12-19 01:35:44] <Falconis> well, usually
  285. [2011-12-19 01:35:59] <Abeo> They tend to effect the most change, besides monolithic creator gods anyway
  286. [2011-12-19 01:36:12] <Falconis> Satan/Lucifer, while a trickster/tempter is not very entertaining at all
  287. [2011-12-19 01:36:30] <Falconis> hmm, guess you couldn't really call him a trickster
  288. [2011-12-19 01:36:37] <Abeo> It seems most tales that explain why somethign in the world is the way it is is answered by "a trickster god did it"
  289. [2011-12-19 01:36:43] <Arkeus> lol
  290. [2011-12-19 01:37:06] <Abeo> *are answered
  291. [2011-12-19 01:37:17] <Wutenphone> Falcon your canary is great. Also orange
  292. [2011-12-19 01:37:26] <Arkeus> indeed
  293. [2011-12-19 01:37:31] <Wutenphone> Fucking phone.
  294. [2011-12-19 01:37:32] <Falconis> wat
  295. [2011-12-19 01:37:35] <Arkeus> Ah, infobox
  296. [2011-12-19 01:37:36] <Arkeus> soon ;-)
  297. [2011-12-19 01:37:38] <Wutenphone> Fanart
  298. [2011-12-19 01:37:43] <Falconis> lol
  299. [2011-12-19 01:37:52] <Falconis> thanks
  300. [2011-12-19 01:38:20] <Wutenphone> And bob I'm still waiting >:(
  301. [2011-12-19 01:39:11] <Falconis> ever read American gods?
  302. [2011-12-19 01:39:16] <Falconis> it was...interesting
  303. [2011-12-19 01:39:37] <Grail> Very
  304. [2011-12-19 01:39:44] <Falconis> I find most books in that flow (gods doing shit in the modern wold) interesting
  305. [2011-12-19 01:39:49] <Grail> I kind of imagine that's what's going on in Camella's world.
  306. [2011-12-19 01:40:17] <Ironybot> Yes, American Gods was actually one of the first things I thought of when we hit the whole "newborn gods everywhere" bit.
  307. [2011-12-19 01:40:20] <Abeo> I haven't actually read and Neil Gaiman
  308. [2011-12-19 01:40:31] <Abeo> any*
  309. [2011-12-19 01:40:50] <Falconis> that's the only thing from him I have ever read
  310. [2011-12-19 01:41:00] <Ironybot> Of course, the particulars are rather dependent upon what abilities and knowledge a newborn god has.
  311. [2011-12-19 01:41:33] <Falconis> yeeeep
  312. [2011-12-19 01:41:38] <Ironybot> If the Belief that made the god says it was around since the beginning of time, does it somehow get impossible, retconned memories even if it's brand new, for example?
  313. [2011-12-19 01:41:40] <Arkeus> Given Whaitir, i'd say the BIG edge old gods have is knoweldge
  314. [2011-12-19 01:41:52] <Arkeus> As being a god doesn't seem to teach much
  315. [2011-12-19 01:42:10] <Falconis> I think it's more like the gods in Discworld
  316. [2011-12-19 01:42:12] <Ironybot> And what of skills? Are they born only with talent and power, or knowledge as well?
  317. [2011-12-19 01:42:25] <Arkeus> Ironybot: no knoweldge, i'd say
  318. [2011-12-19 01:42:32] <Falconis> tiny, tiny fragments waiting for worship
  319. [2011-12-19 01:42:32] <Arkeus> Given Whaitir sucks at knoweldge
  320. [2011-12-19 01:42:43] <Falconis> get some, get power
  321. [2011-12-19 01:42:48] <Ironybot> But Whaitiri's myths didn't really specify that she knew that much.
  322. [2011-12-19 01:42:58] <Abeo> Yeah, she doesn't seem the type
  323. [2011-12-19 01:43:05] <Grail> You'd be surprised
  324. [2011-12-19 01:43:09] <Arkeus> True enough, Myth about omniscient gods might be differents
  325. [2011-12-19 01:43:46] <BUTTZ> <Abeo>If they get to the brown spotty stage they are gross
  326. [2011-12-19 01:43:50] <BUTTZ> Banana bread
  327. [2011-12-19 01:43:56] <Abeo> Indeed.
  328. [2011-12-19 01:44:01] <Abeo> However, lazy.
  329. [2011-12-19 01:44:29] <Abeo> Also, I am immature and giggle whenever I see your name.
  330. [2011-12-19 01:44:58] <Falconis> BANANA BREAD
  331. [2011-12-19 01:45:07] <Falconis> YES
  332. [2011-12-19 01:45:10] <Falconis> GLORIOUS
  333. [2011-12-19 01:45:16] <Grail> So tasty
  334. [2011-12-19 01:45:28] <Falconis> also, apparently Kim Jong II is dead
  335. [2011-12-19 01:46:06] <BUTTZ> Delicious, delicious, dictator tears
  336. [2011-12-19 01:46:10] <Falconis> you may now return to your regularly scheduled programme
  337. [2011-12-19 01:46:11] <Arkeus> he is?
  338. [2011-12-19 01:46:30] <Abeo> From what I've heard, his son is a giant man-child. We know who is succeeding him?
  339. [2011-12-19 01:46:34] <Falconis> that seems to be the news
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  341. [2011-12-19 01:46:44] <BUTTZ> The man-child who likes the NBA apparently is
  342. [2011-12-19 01:46:46] <Falconis> no clue
  343. [2011-12-19 01:46:49] <Falconis> ah
  344. [2011-12-19 01:46:53] <BUTTZ> From his point of view this must be the best christmas ever
  345. [2011-12-19 01:46:58] <Falconis> ...
  346. [2011-12-19 01:47:04] <BUTTZ> NBA strike ends AND he's crowned king
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  348. [2011-12-19 01:47:12] <Falconis> >inb4 hell in a handbasket
  349. [2011-12-19 01:47:23] <Abeo> In one instance, I heard that some diplomats suggested that they may be friendlier to US interests if a band that he liked had a concert in N. Korea.
  350. [2011-12-19 01:50:06] <AlratanMobile_> Whaitiri's myth actually mentions her lack of knowledge and reluctance to admit this
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  353. [2011-12-19 01:51:00] <Grail> Her mythology is a bit...fractured.
  354. [2011-12-19 01:52:18] <Abeo> Most are
  355. [2011-12-19 01:52:30] <Falconis> also
  356. [2011-12-19 01:52:34] <Wutenphone> Also, at some point areas needs to fly.
  357. [2011-12-19 01:52:46] <Wutenphone> While camella is watching.
  358. [2011-12-19 01:52:53] <Falconis> if you want to find out about the winter/summer healing, ask trick
  359. [2011-12-19 01:52:56] <Falconis> gamble
  360. [2011-12-19 01:53:26] <Wutenphone> Armas* fucking phone.
  361. [2011-12-19 01:53:27] <Abeo> *looks at keyboard*
  362. [2011-12-19 01:53:29] <Grail> For instance she is mentioned several times as the one who assisted Tane, the god of the forests and birds, by preforming the karakia that gave him the strength to separate Rangi and Papa and start the world.
  363. [2011-12-19 01:53:42] <Abeo> *"e" and "m" are nowhere near eachother*
  364. [2011-12-19 01:53:47] <Falconis> Though it's likely just routing the energy through a healing factor and using the energy emmited to fuel massive regrowth
  365. [2011-12-19 01:53:53] <Abeo> ah
  366. [2011-12-19 01:53:56] <Grail> Well start the world as humans know it.
  367. [2011-12-19 01:53:57] <Wutenphone> Abeo, autocorrect.
  368. [2011-12-19 01:54:08] <Abeo> phones anger me in thatregard
  369. [2011-12-19 01:54:26] <Abeo> I specifically got a keyboard phone and disabled autocorrect
  370. [2011-12-19 01:54:29] <BUTTZ> "Camella, I've been thinking about Michael Jackson"
  371. [2011-12-19 01:54:35] <Arkeus> I have no clue why we can't turn it off
  372. [2011-12-19 01:54:44] <Wutenphone> I admit its more useful then annoying, but its not exactly perfect.
  373. [2011-12-19 01:54:46] <BUTTZ> "He died in your timeline, right? He's been dead here awhile now."
  374. [2011-12-19 01:54:50] <Falconis> turn what off?
  375. [2011-12-19 01:54:56] <Arkeus> Falconis
  376. [2011-12-19 01:55:01] <Wutenphone> You can turn it off.
  377. [2011-12-19 01:55:08] <Arkeus> I don't know how
  378. [2011-12-19 01:55:08] <BUTTZ> "He used to say 'We can fly if we just know the right thoughts to think.' "
  379. [2011-12-19 01:55:24] <BUTTZ> "I've been thinking about that."
  380. [2011-12-19 01:55:28] <Wutenphone> Butts I love you.
  381. [2011-12-19 01:55:56] <Arkeus> I still want someone to call us "Godling" in front of Camella, and then going "Well, i am no WIZARD"
  382. [2011-12-19 01:56:06] <Abeo> You know, not that i think about it, did we introduce Sake to Camella?
  383. [2011-12-19 01:56:12] <Arkeus> Abeo: no
  384. [2011-12-19 01:56:13] <Wutenphone> No.
  385. [2011-12-19 01:56:16] <Arkeus> she doesn't know he exists
  386. [2011-12-19 01:56:21] <Wutenphone> And let's keep it that way.
  387. [2011-12-19 01:56:23] <Arkeus> Armas made some serious wordplay
  388. [2011-12-19 01:56:24] <Falconis> she might just strangle him
  389. [2011-12-19 01:56:30] <Ironybot> How was he talking to us in front of her, then?
  390. [2011-12-19 01:56:40] <BUTTZ> He can relay through SB
  391. [2011-12-19 01:56:41] <Arkeus> Minspeech
  392. [2011-12-19 01:56:51] <Falconis> we can mentally communicate at short range thanks to soul bond
  393. [2011-12-19 01:56:53] <Arkeus> As long as he is near us he can talk to us
  394. [2011-12-19 01:56:57] <Abeo> She'd probably like Sake if we told her that he was teh weasle that kicked our shit
  395. [2011-12-19 01:57:09] <Falconis> Armas should not know this
  396. [2011-12-19 01:57:12] <Arkeus> Abeo: she thinks we bound SB, not sake
  397. [2011-12-19 01:57:14] <Arkeus> <_<
  398. [2011-12-19 01:57:16] <Ironybot> But how could she have not seen him if he was within mental speech range?
  399. [2011-12-19 01:57:16] <Falconis> Armas knows a lot of things he should not
  400. [2011-12-19 01:57:19] <Abeo> hilarious
  401. [2011-12-19 01:57:23] <Wutenphone> Probably, but also the trolling potential
  402. [2011-12-19 01:57:24] <BUTTZ> Armas should not know what?
  403. [2011-12-19 01:57:38] <Arkeus> Ironybot: to be clearer, she might think Sakle is like her cat
  404. [2011-12-19 01:57:39] <Arkeus> a pet
  405. [2011-12-19 01:57:40] <Grail> I believe Bob mentioned Jessica assumed he was simply something like a mascot of ours
  406. [2011-12-19 01:57:43] <Falconis> he was around our shoulders I think
  407. [2011-12-19 01:57:52] <Grail> Implying that at least the player knows of him
  408. [2011-12-19 01:57:53] <Falconis> like a mink thing
  409. [2011-12-19 01:57:55] <BUTTZ> Sake could have just been hanging out
  410. [2011-12-19 01:57:58] <Wutenphone> Anyway I have to go.
  411. [2011-12-19 01:58:05] <Wutenphone> Later golemgents
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  413. [2011-12-19 01:58:16] <Abeo> Sake should try intimidating Camella
  414. [2011-12-19 01:58:24] <Falconis> >intimidate
  415. [2011-12-19 01:58:27] <Falconis> >Camella
  416. [2011-12-19 01:58:28] <Arkeus> Nah, sake will troll Camella
  417. [2011-12-19 01:58:31] <Arkeus> and Make Armas pay the price
  418. [2011-12-19 01:58:33] <Arkeus> and laugh
  419. [2011-12-19 01:59:06] <Abeo> Weasle's are incredibly intimidating
  420. [2011-12-19 01:59:13] <Arkeus> Weasel War Dance!
  421. [2011-12-19 01:59:34] <Falconis> >kick with my steel toed boots
  422. [2011-12-19 01:59:44] <Falconis> well that was over quickly
  423. [2011-12-19 02:00:02] <Ironybot> Sake is deadlier at closer ranges, remember, because of wind claws.
  424. [2011-12-19 02:00:26] <Arkeus> Sake's actually really powerful
  425. [2011-12-19 02:00:38] <Abeo> I think its pretty funny that we haven't really used Sake's powerset yet
  426. [2011-12-19 02:00:42] <Falconis> well yea, but I'm just thinking about normal, mundane weasels
  427. [2011-12-19 02:00:58] <Abeo> Why would you kick a weasel? That's mean.
  428. [2011-12-19 02:01:44] <Ironybot> We tried it once. He cut off our foot, as I recall.
  429. [2011-12-19 02:01:47] <Ironybot> Or toes, at least.
  430. [2011-12-19 02:01:58] <Ironybot> We might still have those severed toes, if we haven't used them for anything.
  431. [2011-12-19 02:02:06] <Grail> We do
  432. [2011-12-19 02:02:10] <Grail> Sitting in a bag
  433. [2011-12-19 02:02:25] <Falconis> I kick anything that tries to war dance at me
  434. [2011-12-19 02:02:27] <Arkeus> You know, if SB becomes a godling, we must restrict the mere to use by Golding, the ultimate trolling
  435. [2011-12-19 02:02:31] <Falconis> ...ok not anything
  436. [2011-12-19 02:02:35] <Grail> They may be useful if we need to internalize flesh or blood over the x3 potency limit.
  437. [2011-12-19 02:02:38] <Arkeus> Restricting a Elder Artifact to something a dragon cannot be
  438. [2011-12-19 02:02:41] <Arkeus> or never is
  439. [2011-12-19 02:03:28] <Abeo> We should give Camella our toes
  440. [2011-12-19 02:03:39] <Ironybot> Any reason other than trolling?
  441. [2011-12-19 02:03:45] <Abeo> Noap
  442. [2011-12-19 02:04:00] <Arkeus> Ironybot: to me or Abeo?
  443. [2011-12-19 02:04:05] <Abeo> Irony
  444. [2011-12-19 02:04:06] <Ironybot> Then I must disagree. As much as I support trolling, our toes have practical applications.
  445. [2011-12-19 02:04:15] <BUTTZ> If you want to troll her, give her some bull testicals in a purse and claim that they're Armas'
  446. [2011-12-19 02:04:27] <BUTTZ> "Had an accident while I was shaving."
  447. [2011-12-19 02:04:34] <Abeo> Why not just rip off our testicles?
  448. [2011-12-19 02:04:48] <Grail> Those are words I'd never think I'd hear
  449. [2011-12-19 02:04:52] <Arkeus> That would give a Gambler's Grim Gut level up
  450. [2011-12-19 02:04:54] <Grail> Even here
  451. [2011-12-19 02:04:56] <Ironybot> Restricting the Elder Artifact to godlings would give us strong incentive to maintain our godling status rather than try to ascend into any other kind of critter.
  452. [2011-12-19 02:04:56] <Arkeus> and a Masochist Trait
  453. [2011-12-19 02:05:10] <Ironybot> We would need to carefully consider if we want godling to be the end of our line.
  454. [2011-12-19 02:05:16] <Abeo> which Bob would probably like
  455. [2011-12-19 02:05:24] <Arkeus> Ironybot: mmmh
  456. [2011-12-19 02:05:36] <Arkeus> I guess Gods aren't quite godlings...
  457. [2011-12-19 02:05:40] <BUTTZ> Plenty of godlings go on to lead productive and interesting lives
  458. [2011-12-19 02:05:46] <Arkeus> OTOH, we could stay a godling even by being a dragon
  459. [2011-12-19 02:06:00] <Arkeus> just have to make sure any future bloodline will have divine energy
  460. [2011-12-19 02:06:07] <BUTTZ> I think if we're going down this weird path we should go all the way
  461. [2011-12-19 02:06:08] <Abeo> A lesser restriction: divine
  462. [2011-12-19 02:06:29] <Dkay_> Armas could become a god somehow. Probably a god of Deceit. Lawyers and Politicians would be his followers. Heck, maybe he can cheat like the Norse pantheon did and have all instances of Deceit be seen as acts of worship to him.
  463. [2011-12-19 02:06:31] <Abeo> We aren't going to lose the divinity in our soul barring catastrophic damage to it
  464. [2011-12-19 02:06:43] <Arkeus> Talking about cheat
  465. [2011-12-19 02:06:47] <Ironybot> Restricting the mere to someone with a divine or partly divine soul would probably work better, yes.
  466. [2011-12-19 02:06:54] <Arkeus> I really think Armas should get a Cheating Trait at learning
  467. [2011-12-19 02:07:01] <Arkeus> TheBeardiestBob: why don't we ahve one? :-(
  468. [2011-12-19 02:07:05] <Arkeus> have
  469. [2011-12-19 02:07:16] <Abeo> So just restrict the mere to be used by only those with at least aprtly divine souls
  470. [2011-12-19 02:07:38] <BUTTZ> Why not restrict the mere to be used only by people who have been through the Penis Troll ritual
  471. [2011-12-19 02:07:47] <Abeo> We could possibly restrict it even further
  472. [2011-12-19 02:07:58] <BUTTZ> That's right I'm going there and calling it a ritual
  473. [2011-12-19 02:08:03] <Abeo> so that it can only be used who have whaitiri's divinity in their soul
  474. [2011-12-19 02:08:05] <Arkeus> we saw that BUTTZ
  475. [2011-12-19 02:08:32] <TheBeardiestBob> Update
  476. [2011-12-19 02:08:33] <Arkeus> Abeo: that... well, it means Whaitiri should stay alive
  477. [2011-12-19 02:08:34] <TheBeardiestBob> Also
  478. [2011-12-19 02:08:37] <Falconis> yay
  479. [2011-12-19 02:08:40] <TheBeardiestBob> off-screen interaction with Camella
  480. [2011-12-19 02:08:48] <Arkeus> oh?
  481. [2011-12-19 02:08:51] <TheBeardiestBob> Just read
  482. [2011-12-19 02:08:53] <Arkeus> yay
  483. [2011-12-19 02:08:57] <Arkeus> didn't see 'update'
  484. [2011-12-19 02:09:20] <Abeo> True... but part of the awesomeness of teh weapon is that it ahs a conduit to whaitiri
  485. [2011-12-19 02:09:24] <Abeo> we want her alive anyway
  486. [2011-12-19 02:11:21] <Arkeus> We do obviously
  487. [2011-12-19 02:11:31] <Arkeus> but we never know if she might not get offed by being too Armas-
  488. [2011-12-19 02:11:35] <Arkeus> y
  489. [2011-12-19 02:13:49] <TheBeardiestBob> And you all can thank the poster that got the palendrome for actually getting to see the Meng Yun training-lacking that, it would have been much more 'off screen'
  490. [2011-12-19 02:14:09] <TheBeardiestBob> Though if you do not care for the MONTAGE minitime, then feel free to hate on said poster-or on me for doing it
  491. [2011-12-19 02:14:11] <TheBeardiestBob> or whatever
  492. [2011-12-19 02:14:19] <TheBeardiestBob> you know, just do your respective thing(s)
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  494. [2011-12-19 02:16:03] <Ironybot> I am liking it.
  495. [2011-12-19 02:17:12] <Arkeus> gee, this kind of training reminds me of something
  496. [2011-12-19 02:17:14] <Arkeus> i wonder what
  497. [2011-12-19 02:17:17] <Arkeus> <_<
  498. [2011-12-19 02:19:59] * Arkeus dun want to be hated on
  499. [2011-12-19 02:20:09] <BUTTZ> Especially that part where we ran into Camella and she suggested to Hillevi that she look into Feminism while vindictively looking at me.
  500. [2011-12-19 02:20:09] <Falconis> I liked it
  501. [2011-12-19 02:20:12] <BUTTZ> Nice!
  502. [2011-12-19 02:20:12] <Falconis> it was fun
  503. [2011-12-19 02:20:40] <Falconis> I would be kind of sad if he was so happy because 'at least he isn't pwerfect' kind of deal
  504. [2011-12-19 02:20:54] <Falconis> hopefully it's 'good to have a willing student' kind of happy
  505. [2011-12-19 02:21:03] <Falconis> perfect*
  506. [2011-12-19 02:21:14] <Arkeus> ten lives
  507. [2011-12-19 02:21:15] <Falconis> or 'reminds me of myself'
  508. [2011-12-19 02:21:16] <Arkeus> hell yes
  509. [2011-12-19 02:21:58] <BUTTZ> or "he's going to be an utter monster once he gets his technique down"
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  511. [2011-12-19 02:23:30] <Ironybot> I find myself curious as to how long a normal student would have taken to learn everything we learned.
  512. [2011-12-19 02:23:39] <Falconis> months
  513. [2011-12-19 02:23:42] <Falconis> years
  514. [2011-12-19 02:23:46] <Falconis> we have more energy
  515. [2011-12-19 02:23:56] <Falconis> and can afford to fail tons of times in a single day
  516. [2011-12-19 02:24:02] <BUTTZ> Given that Meng Yun told us outright that we wasted more energy in a few minutes than he had all day
  517. [2011-12-19 02:24:04] <Ironybot> If what he said about how rapidly he becomes exhausted is true, then we have a stupidly huge advantage even before counting our talents/instincts for this.
  518. [2011-12-19 02:24:04] <BUTTZ> Yeah
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  520. [2011-12-19 02:25:18] <Arkeus> TheBeardiestBob: we regenerate tne lives at once at the end of the week? it's not a progressive process?
  521. [2011-12-19 02:25:21] <Falconis> FFFFFF
  522. [2011-12-19 02:25:41] <Arkeus> Ironybot: see bloodline description, yes
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  525. [2011-12-19 02:27:51] <Ironybot> So reading through this bloodline description, am I right in thinking that the abilities are first three bloodlines, then two synergy bonuses? That is, had we chosen other bloodline options our core powers may have had only three core tenets?
  526. [2011-12-19 02:28:41] <Arkeus> Instead of the Istanbul Military Museum-which was totally my idea, but Einrik stole it before I thought it up because he's a jerk- <= Dammit Einrik
  527. [2011-12-19 02:29:16] <Arkeus> Ironybot: i'd also say that the strenght of eahc are synergy bonus
  528. [2011-12-19 02:29:25] <Arkeus> At first Romanov was supposed to be 4 lives
  529. [2011-12-19 02:29:28] <Falconis> >Armas
  530. [2011-12-19 02:29:44] <Falconis> >get everything I want without revealing I want it
  531. [2011-12-19 02:29:49] <Arkeus> and the first tenet mentions soul sculpting, whihc comes from sami
  532. [2011-12-19 02:29:52] <Arkeus> and so on
  533. [2011-12-19 02:29:59] <Arkeus> So i think they are all 'synergy' stuff
  534. [2011-12-19 02:30:53] <Grail> That luck man
  535. [2011-12-19 02:31:01] <Arkeus> luck?
  536. [2011-12-19 02:31:22] <Grail> Weren't we slated to get 6-7 lives? That luck may have boosted us up one or two right there
  537. [2011-12-19 02:31:25] <Arkeus> TheBeardiestBob: so, can we ask questions about the bloodline and the rolls?
  538. [2011-12-19 02:31:39] <Arkeus> Grail: we were slater between 4 and 7
  539. [2011-12-19 02:31:42] <Arkeus> depending on choices
  540. [2011-12-19 02:31:44] <Arkeus> slated
  541. [2011-12-19 02:31:47] <Arkeus> iirc
  542. [2011-12-19 02:31:56] <Ironybot> "Armas, I think you've already got a defense-for all of those to be negatively interpreted, you'd have to be the most ambitious of nefarious individuals-consider how many things you'd have to be doing."
  543. [2011-12-19 02:32:06] <Arkeus> :D
  544. [2011-12-19 02:32:10] <Ironybot> The horrible part is that we ARE doing that many things, and we ARE that ambitious!
  545. [2011-12-19 02:32:10] <Arkeus> totallyis.png
  546. [2011-12-19 02:32:31] <Falconis> and nefarious
  547. [2011-12-19 02:32:55] <Grail> The only thing Armas could say in his defense is that at least he's not using them all at the same time or for the same thing
  548. [2011-12-19 02:33:11] <BUTTZ> What do we want a Kapala for?
  549. [2011-12-19 02:33:16] <Arkeus> Actually, most of them are for fringe benefits
  550. [2011-12-19 02:33:22] <Arkeus> as in, the benefits isn't nefarious at all
  551. [2011-12-19 02:33:23] <Grail> It's a nice object
  552. [2011-12-19 02:33:26] <Falconis> what /is/ a Kapala
  553. [2011-12-19 02:33:29] <Arkeus> like the feast of the champion
  554. [2011-12-19 02:33:31] <BUTTZ> It's a skull bowl
  555. [2011-12-19 02:33:31] <Grail> A human skull cap
  556. [2011-12-19 02:33:36] <Falconis> :I
  557. [2011-12-19 02:33:45] <BUTTZ> I've seen some in museums
  558. [2011-12-19 02:33:57] <BUTTZ> Really beautiful. Not the kind of thing I'd want on the mantle.
  559. [2011-12-19 02:34:00] <Falconis> I seeeeee
  560. [2011-12-19 02:34:06] <Arkeus> Ironybot: can you open up a Bloodline page on wiki?
  561. [2011-12-19 02:34:18] <Arkeus> we need to copy that info A.S.A.P in its own page
  562. [2011-12-19 02:34:20] <Falconis> welp, it's been fun guy s
  563. [2011-12-19 02:34:29] <Falconis> but I have been going on 2 hrs sleep for 2 days
  564. [2011-12-19 02:34:35] <Falconis> time to catch up
  565. [2011-12-19 02:34:42] <Falconis> peace
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  567. [2011-12-19 02:35:36] <Arkeus> you know
  568. [2011-12-19 02:35:42] <Arkeus> our reincarnate prelate
  569. [2011-12-19 02:35:48] <Arkeus> it says "avoid being claimed by death"
  570. [2011-12-19 02:35:50] <Ironybot> I think we just need an Armas page, not a Bloodline page.
  571. [2011-12-19 02:35:53] <Arkeus> weneverdie.png
  572. [2011-12-19 02:35:58] <Arkeus> here sometimes merhcant
  573. [2011-12-19 02:36:18] <Ironybot> We can move ALL his shit over there and off the main page, which it's cluttering up like nobody's business.
  574. [2011-12-19 02:36:19] <Arkeus> Ironybot: well, half of the Armas page will be about bloodline
  575. [2011-12-19 02:36:22] <Arkeus> but sure, why not
  576. [2011-12-19 02:36:29] <Arkeus> good point
  577. [2011-12-19 02:37:02] <Grail> And it would give us a good reason to update it more
  578. [2011-12-19 02:37:13] <Grail> Add in the guns we've left out
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  580. [2011-12-19 02:37:27] <Grail> Stuff like that
  581. [2011-12-19 02:37:55] <Arkeus> I like how only dragons or upper tier court being that are also focused on chakra have more energy than us
  582. [2011-12-19 02:38:08] <Arkeus> Kinda disappointed we didn't get any level up in chakra
  583. [2011-12-19 02:38:17] <Arkeus> Though we did learn stuff
  584. [2011-12-19 02:38:47] <Grail> A session or two with Einrik's teacher should fix that right up
  585. [2011-12-19 02:38:52] <Arkeus> I think i am going to rest for three hours or so
  586. [2011-12-19 02:39:08] <Arkeus> if bob feels like answering question, can someone ask him what happened with Camella?
  587. [2011-12-19 02:39:22] <TheBeardiestBob> In terms of chakra energy, Arkeus. Not in terms of total energy. Also, it's ten lives regenerated over a week, not as a lump sum. So a life and change a day
  588. [2011-12-19 02:39:25] <Arkeus> as well as how the lives regenerates? ten at once, or progressively?
  589. [2011-12-19 02:39:33] <Arkeus> ok, cool
  590. [2011-12-19 02:39:35] <Arkeus> thks
  591. [2011-12-19 02:39:59] <Arkeus> and, yeah, that's what i meant bob about the nergy, wasn't clear enough.
  592. [2011-12-19 02:40:12] <Ironybot> http://tgchan.org/wiki/Guns_for_Hire_Armas
  593. [2011-12-19 02:40:41] <BUTTZ> Hillevi's project is going to be interesting huh?
  594. [2011-12-19 02:41:09] <Arkeus> TheBeardiestBob: So, can you tell use what kind of bonus how effective rolls made Armas have? i mean, given we could have had a stunted bloodline, this could mean our bloodline might actually be somewhat the opposite?
  595. [2011-12-19 02:41:22] <Arkeus> Almost a x5 compounded?
  596. [2011-12-19 02:41:27] <Arkeus> Ironybot: thks
  597. [2011-12-19 02:42:34] <Arkeus> Is someone editing that winter bloodline bit now, or can i do it?
  598. [2011-12-19 02:42:36] <Ironybot> The Armas information has now been removed from the main wiki page, and all secondary pages are linked near the top of it.
  599. [2011-12-19 02:43:47] <Arkeus> urgh. previous how = our
  600. [2011-12-19 02:43:48] <Arkeus> -_-
  601. [2011-12-19 02:44:04] <Grail> I'm tempted to try out our lurk stealth
  602. [2011-12-19 02:44:20] <AlratanMobile> Question for Bob, if he's still on, does our winter bloodline count as Imperial
  603. [2011-12-19 02:44:48] <Ironybot> I find the titles of our Winter abilities interesting. They certainly seem to imply a certain amount of rank or command inherent in them.
  604. [2011-12-19 02:44:57] <Arkeus> Indeed
  605. [2011-12-19 02:45:09] <Arkeus> Prelate, Loirdly, etc
  606. [2011-12-19 02:47:16] <BUTTZ> Capabilities: Pissing off his enemies, making his allies question his judgment and common sense, constantly irritating everyone with tricky wordplay.
  607. [2011-12-19 02:47:25] <BUTTZ> I love that that line has persisted for months now
  608. [2011-12-19 02:47:31] <Ironybot> It has remained true.
  609. [2011-12-19 02:48:07] <Arkeus> Ironybot: edited Armas page
  610. [2011-12-19 02:48:18] <Arkeus> Tell me what you think
  611. [2011-12-19 02:48:20] <Grail> Armas is the image of consistency.
  612. [2011-12-19 02:49:09] <Ironybot> Looks in line with the rest of the formatting there to me.
  613. [2011-12-19 02:49:41] <Ironybot> I'm not sure that formatting remains optimal at the moment- we might want to scrap the use of the character template here, and instead use a variety of headers so that the wiki automatically builds a table of contents for us.
  614. [2011-12-19 02:49:49] <Arkeus> But, yeah, the thought was to use a bloodline page in order to jot down theories there
  615. [2011-12-19 02:49:53] <Ironybot> But that is a problem for later.
  616. [2011-12-19 02:49:56] <Arkeus> for everyone to see and comment on
  617. [2011-12-19 02:50:07] <Ironybot> Use the talk page for the Armas page for that.
  618. [2011-12-19 02:50:12] <Arkeus> oooh
  619. [2011-12-19 02:50:13] <Arkeus> :D
  620. [2011-12-19 02:51:34] <AlratanMobile> Another consideration
  621. [2011-12-19 02:51:46] <AlratanMobile> Recall the hidden half of Romanov
  622. [2011-12-19 02:52:02] <AlratanMobile> Which managed to hide itself so well that only 20 entities are aware if it
  623. [2011-12-19 02:52:07] <Arkeus> I was thinking of that
  624. [2011-12-19 02:52:10] <AlratanMobile> And Og isn't one of them
  625. [2011-12-19 02:52:10] <Arkeus> 27 or so
  626. [2011-12-19 02:52:24] <Arkeus> And not 'aware'
  627. [2011-12-19 02:52:29] <AlratanMobile> There must be a synergy with Darkening we can exploit
  628. [2011-12-19 02:52:30] <Arkeus> but 'knowing what it is'
  629. [2011-12-19 02:52:32] <Grail> I wonder if Og knows of who knows
  630. [2011-12-19 02:52:54] <AlratanMobile> As it must actively hide itself from observation when in use
  631. [2011-12-19 02:53:02] <BUTTZ> The Lordly Imposition sounds like it
  632. [2011-12-19 02:53:03] <Arkeus> But, yeah? Getting ten lives, one+ a day?
  633. [2011-12-19 02:53:05] <Arkeus> cool cool
  634. [2011-12-19 02:53:07] <Ironybot> Yeah, I'm actually wondering here why, if we got crazy briefings on the rest of our soul, we didn't learn what the rest of Romanov does.
  635. [2011-12-19 02:53:15] <BUTTZ> No medium, no way for anyone to tell
  636. [2011-12-19 02:53:29] <BUTTZ> Tied to the imperial aspect of the bloodline
  637. [2011-12-19 02:53:30] <Arkeus> BUTTZ: that seems like Sami
  638. [2011-12-19 02:53:33] <Arkeus> enhanced Sami, sure
  639. [2011-12-19 02:53:34] <BUTTZ> Yeah?
  640. [2011-12-19 02:53:35] <Arkeus> but Sami
  641. [2011-12-19 02:53:37] <BUTTZ> Hm
  642. [2011-12-19 02:53:59] <AlratanMobile> Like, for example, our uninterpretable hybrid healing is blocked from watchers understanding, like Iron Trick's real functionality
  643. [2011-12-19 02:54:13] <BUTTZ> Ought to mark down the magic item sense too
  644. [2011-12-19 02:54:55] <AlratanMobile> As Iron Trick was the only other time I recall Einrik's perception failing
  645. [2011-12-19 02:55:15] <BUTTZ> Man yeah we need to abandon the character template
  646. [2011-12-19 02:55:16] <Abeo> Man Big Crazy is going to flip out when he sees us next
  647. [2011-12-19 02:55:19] <BUTTZ> This is just crazytown
  648. [2011-12-19 02:55:29] <BUTTZ> We need to make our soul look exactly like his
  649. [2011-12-19 02:55:34] <Arkeus> Indeed
  650. [2011-12-19 02:55:35] <BUTTZ> When we next see him
  651. [2011-12-19 02:55:36] <Abeo> that is exactly what I was thinking!
  652. [2011-12-19 02:55:45] <Arkeus> I think we should begin by making our soul look like a random guy
  653. [2011-12-19 02:55:57] <BUTTZ> No no, make it look like a cat or something weird
  654. [2011-12-19 02:55:59] <Arkeus> and then change from there as we meet more people and analyze more souls
  655. [2011-12-19 02:56:04] <Abeo> Wait, make our soul look like Big Crazy's snake animal spirit
  656. [2011-12-19 02:56:14] <Arkeus> laters
  657. [2011-12-19 02:56:18] <AlratanMobile> we shouldn't use it in front of anyone with spirit sense
  658. [2011-12-19 02:56:22] <AlratanMobile> Who knows us
  659. [2011-12-19 02:56:39] <AlratanMobile> As this ability is most valuable when no one knows if it
  660. [2011-12-19 02:56:59] <Abeo> While that is undoubtably true, it is less fun
  661. [2011-12-19 02:57:11] <Arkeus> I am unsure it's true AlratanMobile
  662. [2011-12-19 02:57:25] <Ironybot> If you guys are looking at ways to troll through soul shape, be aware that the current baseline is "is this a better troll than having our soul look like a giant penis?"
  663. [2011-12-19 02:57:33] <Arkeus> As this ability becomes truly good when we can make someone who looks at us and knows of it, but still get fooled
  664. [2011-12-19 02:57:39] <Ironybot> A crude but effective measure.
  665. [2011-12-19 02:57:40] <Arkeus> lol
  666. [2011-12-19 02:57:50] <Abeo> ...
  667. [2011-12-19 02:58:00] <AlratanMobile> If they know we can shift our soul shape
  668. [2011-12-19 02:58:11] <AlratanMobile> And we are accused of breaching the accords
  669. [2011-12-19 02:58:21] <AlratanMobile> Examination of our soul will not clear us
  670. [2011-12-19 02:58:36] <Abeo> There's no rule against fucking with your own soul
  671. [2011-12-19 02:58:40] <AlratanMobile> If the ability is known of
  672. [2011-12-19 02:59:01] <AlratanMobile> No, but say we eat a soul
  673. [2011-12-19 02:59:04] <Abeo> it only hints at internal soul manipulation
  674. [2011-12-19 02:59:13] <BUTTZ> Or some weird charm
  675. [2011-12-19 02:59:16] <Arkeus> It's not about clearing us
  676. [2011-12-19 02:59:22] <Arkeus> they have to prove we are doing stuff
  677. [2011-12-19 02:59:24] <Arkeus> Also, AlratanMobile
  678. [2011-12-19 02:59:26] <BUTTZ> Anyway Al has a point
  679. [2011-12-19 02:59:31] <Abeo> The only ones who could link us to external soul manipulation are teh ones who already know that we have Sami
  680. [2011-12-19 02:59:35] <BUTTZ> We should not go nuts with this yet
  681. [2011-12-19 02:59:39] <Abeo> Which could do it by itself
  682. [2011-12-19 02:59:40] <Arkeus> it's better to have a mystic about us than keeping our stuff secret
  683. [2011-12-19 02:59:45] <Arkeus> as it makes people value us
  684. [2011-12-19 03:00:02] <Arkeus> and it's not just Armas' style to keep such things secret anyway
  685. [2011-12-19 03:00:21] <Arkeus> True enough about not going 'nuts'
  686. [2011-12-19 03:00:32] <Abeo> I think Big can be trusted with the knowledge that our soul looks weird
  687. [2011-12-19 03:00:33] <AlratanMobile> It has to be kept secret
  688. [2011-12-19 03:00:37] <Abeo> weirder
  689. [2011-12-19 03:00:39] <Ironybot> Hrm. I wonder... if you eat another soul it shows up as a stain on yours, right?
  690. [2011-12-19 03:00:40] <Arkeus> First thing to do is understanding our owwn soul
  691. [2011-12-19 03:00:47] <Ironybot> Could we just... sculpt that stain away?
  692. [2011-12-19 03:00:48] <AlratanMobile> It's not about trust
  693. [2011-12-19 03:00:53] <AlratanMobile> Yes
  694. [2011-12-19 03:00:59] <AlratanMobile> But us people know we can
  695. [2011-12-19 03:01:06] <Abeo> If not sculpt, certainly hide
  696. [2011-12-19 03:01:09] <AlratanMobile> *if people
  697. [2011-12-19 03:01:24] <AlratanMobile> We can't use the lack of a stain to prove innocence
  698. [2011-12-19 03:01:25] <Ironybot> I'm looking at sculpting, not hiding. I mean actually get rid of it.
  699. [2011-12-19 03:01:27] <Abeo> Like I said, chaning our own soul only means we can change our own soul.
  700. [2011-12-19 03:01:50] <AlratanMobile> I think you're working from a presumption of innocence
  701. [2011-12-19 03:01:52] <Abeo> The only people who can link our changing our own soul to the possiblility of altering somone elses's are teh people who already definitively know that we have teh Sami bloodline
  702. [2011-12-19 03:02:22] <Abeo> And, as usual, you arguement hinges on us being completely fucked anyway
  703. [2011-12-19 03:02:23] <AlratanMobile> I'm talking mainly about soul eating
  704. [2011-12-19 03:02:27] <AlratanMobile> T
  705. [2011-12-19 03:02:52] <Arkeus> Alratan, accusing someone is not enogh
  706. [2011-12-19 03:02:57] <Abeo> If we are presumed guilty from the start, there isn't a lot we can do to convince them otherwise
  707. [2011-12-19 03:03:00] <Arkeus> they can kill us (attack us) if they want
  708. [2011-12-19 03:03:08] <Abeo> Fucking dragons
  709. [2011-12-19 03:03:09] <Arkeus> but if they want to have dragons judge us, they have to prove it
  710. [2011-12-19 03:04:05] <AlratanMobile> Abeo: we can prove it by asking them to examine our souls for the stain
  711. [2011-12-19 03:04:06] <AlratanMobile> It's absence proves we're innocent
  712. [2011-12-19 03:04:25] <AlratanMobile> As long as our soul disguise powers are not known
  713. [2011-12-19 03:04:27] <Abeo> "[01:01] <AlratanMobile> We can't use the lack of a stain to prove innocence"
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  715. [2011-12-19 03:05:24] <AlratanMobile> We know from the conversation with Ghanem that you have to prove yourself innocent
  716. [2011-12-19 03:05:37] <Abeo> And if there is no evidence...
  717. [2011-12-19 03:06:02] <AlratanMobile> As he didn't say prove it. He said, I can prove I'm innocent
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  719. [2011-12-19 03:06:31] <Abeo> Also, remember what Einrick said about soul perception a long time ago?
  720. [2011-12-19 03:06:51] <Abeo> Basically it was that nobody bitches about what they can't see of another being's soul
  721. [2011-12-19 03:07:19] <Abeo> Because it is admitting that the other being is out of their league
  722. [2011-12-19 03:07:44] <Abeo> I doubt a dragon is going to admit that we can trick their directed investigation of our soul
  723. [2011-12-19 03:08:47] <Abeo> And no matter what, if we use the soul-masking ability even occasionally, there are going to be wildly differing reports on how our soul is percieved.
  724. [2011-12-19 03:09:18] <Ironybot> We couldn't see the soul of Meng Yun, which annoyed me. What lets one perceive another's soul when they're trying to hide it? Our soul perception abilities seem pretty top-tier to me.
  725. [2011-12-19 03:10:34] <Abeo> It is a good question
  726. [2011-12-19 03:11:00] <Ralith> yeah, the extent and utility of that ability has been kind of underwhelming
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  728. [2011-12-19 03:11:20] <Grail> I'd agree
  729. [2011-12-19 03:11:36] <TheBeardiestBob> Arkeus: no, the bloodling is not almost like a 5/ xcompound, or even partly like one. It's 60% of a composite, no matter how good rolls are. That was the whole point-sacrifice power to get range. It's not a sacrifice if special snowflake rolls restore it. Alratan: Last I checked Romonav's in the bloodline so duh, it does.
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  731. [2011-12-19 03:13:00] <Abeo> I think it's funny how Armas basically has the powerset of Mordecai
  732. [2011-12-19 03:13:14] <TheBeardiestBob> Yes.... funny. That's the word.
  733. [2011-12-19 03:13:26] <Grail> The powerset of Mordecai
  734. [2011-12-19 03:13:30] <Grail> The attitude of Senth
  735. [2011-12-19 03:13:52] <Dkay_> Silver tongue of Mordre?
  736. [2011-12-19 03:14:24] <Ironybot> Pah, Mordre never really had a silver tongue. He had a very large amount of power. Everything you say becomes persuasive when you back it with enough force.
  737. [2011-12-19 03:15:00] <Abeo> He was better at persuading people than Armas is though.
  738. [2011-12-19 03:15:11] <Abeo> Mostly because Amras makes people really, really hate him
  739. [2011-12-19 03:15:54] <Grail> Armas doesn't rally men around him
  740. [2011-12-19 03:15:59] <Grail> He rallies them against each other
  741. [2011-12-19 03:16:01] <Grail> In terrible
  742. [2011-12-19 03:16:03] <Grail> Terrible
  743. [2011-12-19 03:16:04] <Grail> Ways
  744. [2011-12-19 03:16:09] -->| AlratanMobile (~alratan@E065AC6.68C398AA.36443E58.IP) has joined #golemquest
  745. [2011-12-19 03:16:12] <AlratanMobile> The question here is the opposite, we'd want them to see our soul. When accused of soul eating, what is our defence. Preset ion of innocence is a modern and unusual (in historical terms) creation. Presumption of guilt - no smoke without fire, is the default
  746. [2011-12-19 03:16:35] <Ironybot> "Especially that part where we ran into Camella and she suggested to Hillevi that she look into Feminism while vindictively looking at me."
  747. [2011-12-19 03:16:38] <Grail> If Mordre's tongue is silver Armas' tongue is irradiated.
  748. [2011-12-19 03:17:14] <Ironybot> You know the terrible part about that? Hillevi likes us and dislikes Camella. The fact that Camella suggested that to her while glaring at us makes her vastly LESS likely to look into feminism with a favorable eye.
  749. [2011-12-19 03:17:19] <Dkay_> speaking of which, when we pissed of Abdul, the first thing that came to my mind was: is Armas trying to amass so many enemies and make them so mad at him that they will be willing to kill each other just so that they get the chance to kill him?
  750. [2011-12-19 03:17:38] <AlratanMobile> Hi Dkay
  751. [2011-12-19 03:17:44] <Dkay_> Hello, Al
  752. [2011-12-19 03:18:45] <Ironybot> Also, I am reasonably certain that the power politics of the magical world on what seems to be all levels, aka 'whoever can kill people the best is in charge', make the whole gender struggle concept much less relevant to life.
  753. [2011-12-19 03:18:54] <BUTTZ> Armas has a Polonium tongue
  754. [2011-12-19 03:19:32] <Ironybot> What matter the gender of that fire practitioner? They can incinerate you with a glance either way, so you'd best show some fucking respect.
  755. [2011-12-19 03:20:31] <Abeo> I sorta want Armas to walk into traffic and just take an impact.
  756. [2011-12-19 03:21:17] <BUTTZ> Ironybot: It matters when they're part of a big clan, for internal clan politics
  757. [2011-12-19 03:21:20] <BUTTZ> Remember the Rhivuldoris
  758. [2011-12-19 03:21:21] <Abeo> Completely silly, irresponsible, and unsubtle. As well as confering no actual benefit.
  759. [2011-12-19 03:21:26] <Abeo> But the temptation is there.
  760. [2011-12-19 03:21:35] <Grail> You know we should really try to upgrade our ambush trait.
  761. [2011-12-19 03:21:37] <Ironybot> What about them?
  762. [2011-12-19 03:21:43] <Grail> It's our oldest trait you know.
  763. [2011-12-19 03:22:03] <BUTTZ> They decided the daughter would carry on the bloodline, and made the boy her guardian
  764. [2011-12-19 03:22:15] <Ironybot> I thought she was just older and therefore the heir.
  765. [2011-12-19 03:22:24] <Abeo> I think it was a bit of both
  766. [2011-12-19 03:22:26] <BUTTZ> If we'd met them when they were, oh, five years older, I bet he'd have been given authority over her
  767. [2011-12-19 03:22:32] <Grail> The boy can still carry it on.
  768. [2011-12-19 03:22:37] <BUTTZ> As it is he's her guard dog
  769. [2011-12-19 03:22:40] <Grail> He's just horribly scarred
  770. [2011-12-19 03:22:49] <Grail> And has been transformed into her protector
  771. [2011-12-19 03:23:41] <Ironybot> I don't really see their sexes being the major cause of their circumstance so much as a "first child is heir, second child is bodyguard" policy. But I could be wrong.
  772. [2011-12-19 03:24:01] <Abeo> We don't know the extent of his mutilation, tbh
  773. [2011-12-19 03:24:17] <BUTTZ> Well it's no matter to us, Armas isn't from Italy so he's not going to react very badly to feminism. He's grown up with it being largely developed and exercised in his home. Imperfectly, sure, but nowhere near as bad as most places.
  774. [2011-12-19 03:24:34] <Grail> I'd guess they wouldn't castrate the boy and hedge all their bets on the continuation of the bloodline on one child.
  775. [2011-12-19 03:24:57] <Ironybot> Also, I would expect that both of them would be expected to have as many kids as possible because their family line has been so depleted- they must be fecund or it will die out.
  776. [2011-12-19 03:25:49] <Grail> You Irony how you wanted Armas to develop into a sort of Seer originally?
  777. [2011-12-19 03:26:06] <Grail> I keep thinking how crazy Armas could still potentially be.
  778. [2011-12-19 03:26:14] <Ironybot> Although seeing as their parents are dead, that will pretty much be Hilja's call, I guess.
  779. [2011-12-19 03:26:19] <Abeo> Yes, you are right
  780. [2011-12-19 03:26:20] <BUTTZ> Hey we should get the kids those soul-growth items
  781. [2011-12-19 03:26:22] <Grail> Between the world eye, the blind seer boon from Whaitiri, and a prophecy spirit.
  782. [2011-12-19 03:26:26] <Abeo> We must not settle for his current level of insanity
  783. [2011-12-19 03:26:33] <BUTTZ> Ironybot: Markku's call isn't it?
  784. [2011-12-19 03:26:37] <Abeo> WE MUST STRIVE EVER HIGHER
  785. [2011-12-19 03:26:42] <Grail> Each one of them is a rather potent upgrade on it's own I'd imagine
  786. [2011-12-19 03:26:50] <Grail> One of them requires a god to create
  787. [2011-12-19 03:26:51] <BUTTZ> Hilja's their immeadiate caretaker but Marrku's responsible
  788. [2011-12-19 03:27:03] <Ironybot> Markku is not their clan head. Hilja is the head of her clan in her own right, even if they are under Markku's protection at the moment.
  789. [2011-12-19 03:27:13] <BUTTZ> Hm
  790. [2011-12-19 03:27:17] <BUTTZ> Yeah I guess that's so
  791. [2011-12-19 03:27:20] <BUTTZ> Poor kid
  792. [2011-12-19 03:27:24] <Grail> Another requires a god with a unique soul link and rare ingredients, and the final one requires a wizard or witch.
  793. [2011-12-19 03:27:27] <Abeo> I don't like the sound of *blind* seer
  794. [2011-12-19 03:27:51] <BUTTZ> We should have put a dream catcher on that auction list
  795. [2011-12-19 03:27:51] <Ironybot> She will have to make her own decisions as she grows into her power and maturity. It's a lot of responsibility, but hopefully she'll do well.
  796. [2011-12-19 03:27:54] <Grail> That's like a three layer cake of power there.
  797. [2011-12-19 03:27:58] <AlratanMobile> On the Rhivuldoris, originally there were three of them, a twin girl and boy, and the younger boy. They had a Ro3 empowerment ritual
  798. [2011-12-19 03:28:05] <BUTTZ> Oh man
  799. [2011-12-19 03:28:13] <AlratanMobile> The older boy was the clan heir
  800. [2011-12-19 03:28:27] <AlratanMobile> But was killed during the escape
  801. [2011-12-19 03:29:05] <Grail> Didn't we get them a camera so we could chat with them?
  802. [2011-12-19 03:29:06] <AlratanMobile> Hilja lost her benefit from the ritual with her twin's death
  803. [2011-12-19 03:29:14] <AlratanMobile> Save the mental communication
  804. [2011-12-19 03:29:23] <Grail> We need to do that at some point.
  805. [2011-12-19 03:29:34] <BUTTZ> Yeah we got them a computer for that
  806. [2011-12-19 03:29:40] <BUTTZ> Hillevi mentioned it, remember?
  807. [2011-12-19 03:29:44] <Ironybot> Yeah, we should remember to Skype them up.
  808. [2011-12-19 03:29:57] <Grail> Tell them some Uncle Armas stories
  809. [2011-12-19 03:30:03] <BUTTZ> We should. Get Hillevi and Einrik in there too, have a good old time.
  810. [2011-12-19 03:30:39] <Abeo> all our stories involve us getting horribly maimed
  811. [2011-12-19 03:30:48] <AlratanMobile> Ones that don't make us look too stupid
  812. [2011-12-19 03:30:54] <AlratanMobile> The BB story is good
  813. [2011-12-19 03:31:12] <Abeo> We convinced a guy to collapse a building we were in
  814. [2011-12-19 03:31:22] <Ironybot> As long as we make it hilarious every time that we get injured, I don't think they'll mind.
  815. [2011-12-19 03:31:25] <AlratanMobile> No, we threw him out of the window
  816. [2011-12-19 03:31:31] <Abeo> We did both
  817. [2011-12-19 03:31:50] <AlratanMobile> We just don't mention the injuries at all
  818. [2011-12-19 03:31:58] <AlratanMobile> As they're inconsequential to us
  819. [2011-12-19 03:32:26] <AlratanMobile> When Einrik says how he beat Stallon, does he mention then many times he was squished?
  820. [2011-12-19 03:33:16] <Grail> We could have Sake tell some stories
  821. [2011-12-19 03:33:23] <Grail> I'd imagine he'd be great fun
  822. [2011-12-19 03:33:24] <Abeo> So, I've been thinking that we could use M7 in conjuntion with our regeneration to alter our appearance if need be
  823. [2011-12-19 03:33:28] <AlratanMobile> And is the fact he was hilarious
  824. [2011-12-19 03:33:29] <Grail> Giant fluffy weasel
  825. [2011-12-19 03:33:30] <Ironybot> When WE say how he beat Stallon, we certainly mention how many times he was squished!
  826. [2011-12-19 03:33:50] <Grail> Acts like a person
  827. [2011-12-19 03:34:02] <Grail> It's like every children's movie ever
  828. [2011-12-19 03:34:08] <AlratanMobile> Abeo: yes, we can fuck with our self image, I think. I suspect it's very dangerous
  829. [2011-12-19 03:34:12] <Ironybot> Talking about how Stallon popped him like a squeezed banana is great imagery, particularly when he comes right back to bring the hammer down.
  830. [2011-12-19 03:34:40] <AlratanMobile> But it's not particularly hilarious
  831. [2011-12-19 03:34:47] <Ironybot> Of course it's hilarious.
  832. [2011-12-19 03:34:52] <Abeo> The only real problem with the injury stories is that I don't think the kids would particularly like to imagine somone they like being injured
  833. [2011-12-19 03:34:53] <Ironybot> We just have to spin it that way.
  834. [2011-12-19 03:35:42] <Grail> Tell them the Doonongaes story
  835. [2011-12-19 03:35:43] <Abeo> Oh man, we have to talk to them cause maybe Big Crazy will sit in on the conversation!
  836. [2011-12-19 03:35:44] <AlratanMobile> Remember they saw their brother, (apparent) father, and mother brutally murdered in front of them less than a month ago
  837. [2011-12-19 03:35:51] <Grail> It's our best story
  838. [2011-12-19 03:35:57] <AlratanMobile> And they didn't get better
  839. [2011-12-19 03:36:16] <AlratanMobile> Imagine how it feels for us to tell stories trivialising such things
  840. [2011-12-19 03:36:18] <Grail> It involves monsters
  841. [2011-12-19 03:36:29] <Grail> It's perfectly find to tell stories about monsters getting injured
  842. [2011-12-19 03:36:29] <Abeo> A thought occurs:
  843. [2011-12-19 03:36:33] <Grail> And
  844. [2011-12-19 03:36:39] <Grail> It ends on a clifhanger
  845. [2011-12-19 03:36:49] <Abeo> they'll be able to notice our eyepatch
  846. [2011-12-19 03:36:50] <AlratanMobile> But not people, and not recoveries from injuries
  847. [2011-12-19 03:37:08] <Abeo> We should be careful with whom we converse over video relay
  848. [2011-12-19 03:37:13] <AlratanMobile> As their family did not recover, and it runs their face in it
  849. [2011-12-19 03:37:20] <AlratanMobile> *rubs
  850. [2011-12-19 03:37:37] <Abeo> Or it reinforces that we wont be leaving their lives
  851. [2011-12-19 03:37:51] <Abeo> "Oh yeah, losing half my torso is no problem, don't worry about it"
  852. [2011-12-19 03:38:18] <Ironybot> Yeah, I have to say that trivializing our own injuries, and Einrik's, strikes me as more likely to emphasize our own durability and therefore permanence than to hurt their feelings.
  853. [2011-12-19 03:38:30] <Ironybot> Assuming, once again, that we spin it correctly- and Armas is good at spin.
  854. [2011-12-19 03:38:38] <Abeo> So good.
  855. [2011-12-19 03:38:53] <Abeo> So good, sometimes he's bad.
  856. [2011-12-19 03:40:20] <Ironybot> The cell phone Hillevi has is a secure encrypted satellite phone of goodness like we have, right? We didn't pick her up a random standard version, surely.
  857. [2011-12-19 03:41:36] <AlratanMobile> You don't just buy those off the shelf
  858. [2011-12-19 03:41:49] <AlratanMobile> They're very expensive specialist tools
  859. [2011-12-19 03:42:38] <Ironybot> Which, if she is planning to accompany us around, she will need almost as much as we will.
  860. [2011-12-19 03:43:26] <Ironybot> Unless she's planning to just have us do all the talking, which we don't want because she's our ward and we should be teaching her to make the most of modern communications.
  861. [2011-12-19 03:43:46] <AlratanMobile> I'm not sure we can afford to keep that many of them running
  862. [2011-12-19 03:43:55] <AlratanMobile> Calls cost a lot
  863. [2011-12-19 03:44:30] <Abeo> We just have to do t for the next month or two
  864. [2011-12-19 03:44:39] <Abeo> aAt which point we hopefully make 3 mill
  865. [2011-12-19 03:47:09] <Abeo> What I'm wondering is whether the perceptability of the soul is dependant on its inherent structure, or other factors. Probably can, but isn't always.
  866. [2011-12-19 03:47:24] <Abeo> *can be
  867. [2011-12-19 03:47:33] <Abeo> I wonder. If we somehow manage to percieve a normally difficult to percieve soul: if we then make our soul look like theirs, will it be equally difficult for others to percieve as teh original?
  868. [2011-12-19 03:47:50] <AlratanMobile> Well it's only $2 a minute, but that adds up
  869. [2011-12-19 03:55:18] <Abeo> So... should we let the Russians take turns punching Armas while he tries to use the body hardening?
  870. [2011-12-19 03:55:57] <Ironybot> I was actually thinking that we'd tell them all that if they can hide from him for an hour they win, and then we use soul stealth and perception to stalk them all down.
  871. [2011-12-19 03:56:06] <Ironybot> Or not hide, even. Just hold out.
  872. [2011-12-19 03:56:32] <Ironybot> Practice our stalker/ambush fu.
  873. [2011-12-19 03:57:04] <Dkay_> armas should learn to play an instrument ..... like bagpipes
  874. [2011-12-19 03:57:09] <Ironybot> And they'd get practice being hunted by someone with crazy magical stealth powers and terrifying physical abilities.
  875. [2011-12-19 03:57:29] <Ironybot> He doesn't need to learn that. Sake can already do a whole band's worth of noise with wind manipulation powers.
  876. [2011-12-19 03:57:50] <Dkay_> really? cool
  877. [2011-12-19 03:57:57] <Grail> I'm sure we could find use for an instrument once our thunder aspecting comes in.
  878. [2011-12-19 03:58:09] <Ironybot> I suppose, but thunder shouting seems more our style.
  879. [2011-12-19 03:58:26] <Ironybot> Unless we really want to, I don't know, blow up helicopters with a kazoo for the troll value.
  880. [2011-12-19 03:58:32] <Grail> You know Armas would love to rock so hard he'd actually shred their face off.
  881. [2011-12-19 03:58:35] <Grail> Come on
  882. [2011-12-19 03:58:39] <Dkay_> haha
  883. [2011-12-19 03:59:17] <Dkay_> seriously what other instrument is more yrollish/annoying than bagpipes?
  884. [2011-12-19 03:59:19] <Abeo> vuvuzila
  885. [2011-12-19 03:59:26] <Abeo> *ela
  886. [2011-12-19 03:59:59] <Ironybot> Armas can already whistle pretty well, and that can get really annoying. Also, it requires no external items, which is good.
  887. [2011-12-19 04:00:01] <Dkay_> don't think that is considered as musical instrument but yeah, trollish to the mzx
  888. [2011-12-19 04:00:12] <BUTTZ> Hey bagpipes are only "annoying" because they've got that constant playing thing going on
  889. [2011-12-19 04:00:25] <BUTTZ> They're hella cool once you get over your expectations for wind insturments being defied
  890. [2011-12-19 04:00:42] <Grail> Banjo
  891. [2011-12-19 04:00:49] <Ironybot> Harmonicas are pretty nice.
  892. [2011-12-19 04:00:55] <Abeo> I wonder if we could restrict our whisteling so that it can only be used as an attack
  893. [2011-12-19 04:00:56] <BUTTZ> Anyway what would the Russians win in the hunt?
  894. [2011-12-19 04:01:07] <Abeo> probably not with any real effective result
  895. [2011-12-19 04:01:12] <Grail> Double rations
  896. [2011-12-19 04:01:13] <BUTTZ> I mean besides the satisfaction of showing up their boss
  897. [2011-12-19 04:01:25] <Ironybot> We make dinner for anyone who can survive.
  898. [2011-12-19 04:01:29] <Grail> And by double rations I mean an extra plate of homemade magical goodness
  899. [2011-12-19 04:01:36] <Grail> Because people eat that shit up man
  900. [2011-12-19 04:01:38] <Dkay_> valuable, lifesaving experience?
  901. [2011-12-19 04:01:50] <BUTTZ> Sure, experience
  902. [2011-12-19 04:01:52] <BUTTZ> But what else?
  903. [2011-12-19 04:02:12] <Dkay_> ... 20 bucks?
  904. [2011-12-19 04:02:13] <Ironybot> What's wrong with delicious Armas-prepared magical snacks?
  905. [2011-12-19 04:02:33] <Dkay_> nothing
  906. [2011-12-19 04:02:34] <Ironybot> They can even choose what. Any recipe in the book.
  907. [2011-12-19 04:02:44] <BUTTZ> I'm just trying to figure out something to turn it from a two paragraph mention into a really cool scene all its own
  908. [2011-12-19 04:03:07] <Grail> Whistling lessons
  909. [2011-12-19 04:03:13] <Dkay_> hey speaking of which, are we still in favour of the idea of opening a restaurant?
  910. [2011-12-19 04:03:25] <Grail> I still like it
  911. [2011-12-19 04:03:26] <Ironybot> In the long term, maybe. Not the short term.
  912. [2011-12-19 04:03:41] <Abeo> We don't have enough food currently
  913. [2011-12-19 04:03:53] <Ironybot> We have too many other obligations currently.
  914. [2011-12-19 04:03:54] <Dkay_> I love the idea, can't wait till we implement it
  915. [2011-12-19 04:04:07] <AlratanMobile> Too busy
  916. [2011-12-19 04:04:09] <Grail> I recall the Owner would be willing to help us set up our own little place after appeasing him enough.
  917. [2011-12-19 04:04:20] <Abeo> We might lose a Russian soldier if we do it though
  918. [2011-12-19 04:04:24] <AlratanMobile> I prefer to convert the idea into a private members dining club
  919. [2011-12-19 04:04:36] <AlratanMobile> Rather than a commercial restaurant
  920. [2011-12-19 04:04:42] <Grail> Both are fine with me.
  921. [2011-12-19 04:04:42] <Dkay_> how would we lose a soldier?
  922. [2011-12-19 04:04:44] <BUTTZ> The Owner seems pretty chill for an ancient dragon
  923. [2011-12-19 04:04:50] <Abeo> Obviously he'd become our chef
  924. [2011-12-19 04:04:51] <AlratanMobile> Members can take turns bringing the meat
  925. [2011-12-19 04:05:01] <AlratanMobile> And we have a full time chef on staff
  926. [2011-12-19 04:05:04] <Dkay_> oh, that's not bad
  927. [2011-12-19 04:05:34] <Dkay_> besides, we could hire new ones is the demand is high
  928. [2011-12-19 04:05:35] <Abeo> I don't know who would want to join a club Armas is even part of, tbh
  929. [2011-12-19 04:05:56] <Grail> We feed people well.
  930. [2011-12-19 04:06:43] <Grail> And we have very few hang ups when it comes down to eating.
  931. [2011-12-19 04:06:50] <Abeo> I suppose that's true
  932. [2011-12-19 04:07:03] <BUTTZ> We haven't tried some of the weirder mundane stuff
  933. [2011-12-19 04:07:04] <Grail> I'd imagine that coupled with the ability to actually provide and cook good magical food is rare
  934. [2011-12-19 04:07:06] <Dkay_> we could try to hire those orphan vamps and weres
  935. [2011-12-19 04:07:10] <AlratanMobile> On what we should do now, asking Iron Trick about our bloodline would be good, along with asking if he has any insight into any of its function. It is partially based on him, after all, and even before we incorporated Darkening, parts of it (hybrid healing) were occluded from outside interpretation, just as his own functions are. There might be some synergy between what he contributed and that.
  936. [2011-12-19 04:07:16] <Grail> Outside of the Asitane that is.
  937. [2011-12-19 04:07:26] <BUTTZ> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balut_%28egg%29
  938. [2011-12-19 04:07:35] <Abeo> Sorry, bit of a tangent, but what is the general opinion on kidnapping hobos to practice soul-sculpting on?
  939. [2011-12-19 04:07:44] <Grail> Against.
  940. [2011-12-19 04:07:56] <Grail> Amen seems to have a perfectly good supply of vagrants already.
  941. [2011-12-19 04:07:59] <Ironybot> My guess is that Amen has hobos in stock already.
  942. [2011-12-19 04:08:01] <AlratanMobile> Nah, make a deal with Lo Fang for African illegal immigrants
  943. [2011-12-19 04:08:04] <Dkay_> but we have basements full of hobos already
  944. [2011-12-19 04:08:04] <Grail> If you're going to be evil be practical.
  945. [2011-12-19 04:08:17] <Abeo> true true
  946. [2011-12-19 04:08:23] <AlratanMobile> As they're undocumented and much less likely to be missed, even than hobos
  947. [2011-12-19 04:08:35] <AlratanMobile> As loads die in the Med crossing every year
  948. [2011-12-19 04:08:39] <BUTTZ> The Vietnamese often prefer their balut mature from 19 days up to 21 days, when the chick is old enough to be recognizable as a baby duck and has bones that will be firm but tender when cooked.
  949. [2011-12-19 04:08:58] <Ironybot> African illegal immigrants... that makes us Kazedora, you realize?
  950. [2011-12-19 04:09:20] <BUTTZ> It doesn't even have to be a kidnapping
  951. [2011-12-19 04:09:23] <Ironybot> Grab boatloads of randoms for our own nefarious purposes, cover it up.
  952. [2011-12-19 04:09:48] <Grail> Let's just stick to domestic brand victims
  953. [2011-12-19 04:09:53] <BUTTZ> We could rescue them from trouble provided they agree to let us practice some unconventional magic techniques on them
  954. [2011-12-19 04:09:58] <Abeo> Personally, I'm inclined to limit our experimentation to the sould of enemies, or individuals who already know too much
  955. [2011-12-19 04:10:08] <Grail> That or we take some of the junkies off Lo Fang's hands.
  956. [2011-12-19 04:10:16] <Grail> If he's willing to give them up that is
  957. [2011-12-19 04:10:24] =-= TMIoverloadaway is now known as TMIoverloadreallyseriouslyaway
  958. [2011-12-19 04:10:30] =-= TMIoverloadreallyseriouslyaway is now known as TMIoverload
  959. [2011-12-19 04:10:32] <Abeo> I wonder if we could sculpt the addiction out of their souls
  960. [2011-12-19 04:10:39] <BUTTZ> We're a godling, we just need to get people aware of us so that they're praying to us
  961. [2011-12-19 04:10:41] <BUTTZ> And we'll be able to hear
  962. [2011-12-19 04:10:46] <Grail> That's a good drug
  963. [2011-12-19 04:11:02] <Grail> If it actually sculpts addiction into the users very soul
  964. [2011-12-19 04:11:09] <BUTTZ> Become the patron saint of lost illegal immigrants
  965. [2011-12-19 04:11:10] <TMIoverload> Hey, update. Cool. Something to distract me from my bruised and battered body
  966. [2011-12-19 04:11:16] <BUTTZ> What happened TMI?
  967. [2011-12-19 04:11:26] <Grail> Someone link Barry White
  968. [2011-12-19 04:11:30] <Dkay_> oh, Lammy is addicted to Chinese battle drug, isnt he?
  969. [2011-12-19 04:11:44] <Grail> Yep
  970. [2011-12-19 04:11:46] <TMIoverload> Girlfriend's dad pressured me into sparring with him so he could beat the crap out of the guy sleeping with his daughter
  971. [2011-12-19 04:11:49] <Grail> Not sure if Armas knows
  972. [2011-12-19 04:11:58] <Abeo> I think once a person becomes sufficiently addicting to any substance, it is going to imprint on their person
  973. [2011-12-19 04:12:08] <Abeo> Hahaha
  974. [2011-12-19 04:12:20] <AlratanMobile> But does it work in reverse
  975. [2011-12-19 04:12:27] <Grail> Did you learn anything?
  976. [2011-12-19 04:12:37] <Grail> Or did you just get an ass kicking?
  977. [2011-12-19 04:12:42] <Abeo> That is teh question
  978. [2011-12-19 04:13:06] <Abeo> We may be able to remove the compulsion from the individual to pursue the drugs further
  979. [2011-12-19 04:13:13] <TMIoverload> I learned that pain is painful, and I should learn to feign unconsciousness better
  980. [2011-12-19 04:13:23] <Abeo> of course, that wouldn't address any chemical withdrawal or whatnot
  981. [2011-12-19 04:13:53] <Grail> That would actually be a kind way to learn soul sculpting
  982. [2011-12-19 04:14:01] <Grail> Sure we might end up killing a hobo or two
  983. [2011-12-19 04:14:31] <Abeo> Also, I wonder if we can make something like revenants
  984. [2011-12-19 04:14:37] <Grail> But if we can nurse away an addiction or two in the process we've done some vague good.
  985. [2011-12-19 04:14:46] <AlratanMobile> They might volunteer
  986. [2011-12-19 04:14:57] <AlratanMobile> If we offer them a chance to get clean
  987. [2011-12-19 04:15:00] <Abeo> Actually, nvm, I know we basically could. Really obvious though
  988. [2011-12-19 04:15:19] <Grail> This is a good idea
  989. [2011-12-19 04:15:19] <AlratanMobile> People are prepared to do some pretty desperate things if they want to quit
  990. [2011-12-19 04:15:23] <Abeo> We might be able to open a really high-end clinic for addiction treatment
  991. [2011-12-19 04:15:34] <Abeo> we'd be like all those other ones, but we'd actually get teh job done
  992. [2011-12-19 04:15:40] <TMIoverload> I actually would like to start by learning to screw with other people's chakras. But the addiction thing does lead to helping Lammy
  993. [2011-12-19 04:15:47] <AlratanMobile> An it's not actually illegal by the Accorda
  994. [2011-12-19 04:15:53] <Grail> Nope
  995. [2011-12-19 04:15:55] <Abeo> and we might be able to implant compulsions that favour us in the souls of the rich and powerful
  996. [2011-12-19 04:15:55] <Grail> It's perfect
  997. [2011-12-19 04:16:01] <Grail> It's moral
  998. [2011-12-19 04:16:04] <Grail> It's legal
  999. [2011-12-19 04:16:07] <Grail> And it helps us
  1000. [2011-12-19 04:16:11] <Grail> Everyone wins
  1001. [2011-12-19 04:16:26] <BUTTZ> It also makes Armas more high profile, but we're marginally more ready for that now
  1002. [2011-12-19 04:16:30] <Ironybot> Except the people whose souls we accidentally fuck up.
  1003. [2011-12-19 04:16:34] <Ironybot> Those people lose.
  1004. [2011-12-19 04:16:46] <Grail> Start on the ones we've already had in a dungeon
  1005. [2011-12-19 04:16:48] <AlratanMobile> We could even have Amen open their chakras as we watch, so we can teach them meditation usin chakra to replace the chemical high
  1006. [2011-12-19 04:16:52] <Abeo> Now how to approach it...
  1007. [2011-12-19 04:16:54] <Grail> Until we advance to the reasonably good stage
  1008. [2011-12-19 04:17:14] <AlratanMobile> That way, we can eat the failures chakra roots
  1009. [2011-12-19 04:17:21] <AlratanMobile> Waste not, want not
  1010. [2011-12-19 04:17:34] <Abeo> I think if Amen opened a mundane's chakras all the way, they might die from soul exhaustion
  1011. [2011-12-19 04:17:36] <Grail> This will be a good system we have going
  1012. [2011-12-19 04:17:38] <Grail> And
  1013. [2011-12-19 04:17:48] <Grail> It'll lead into developing that intelligence network
  1014. [2011-12-19 04:17:57] <Grail> Or a good public persona trait
  1015. [2011-12-19 04:17:57] <TMIoverload> I take issue with the "have Amen" portion of the plan
  1016. [2011-12-19 04:18:09] <Grail> And Armas can open chakras
  1017. [2011-12-19 04:18:15] <Grail> Cut Amen out
  1018. [2011-12-19 04:18:25] <AlratanMobile> We need to learn how to do it
  1019. [2011-12-19 04:18:33] <AlratanMobile> That's what the Amen part is for
  1020. [2011-12-19 04:18:39] <Abeo> Probably be a bit more hazardous for our "patients" at first, but we'd also probably learn more
  1021. [2011-12-19 04:18:49] <Abeo> The not using Amen, that is
  1022. [2011-12-19 04:18:51] <Grail> Fine, but he's only for the preliminary dungeon vagrant stage
  1023. [2011-12-19 04:18:56] <AlratanMobile> Order him to open their chakra using soul magic in a way we can perceive
  1024. [2011-12-19 04:19:06] <Abeo> Don't think he uses soul magic
  1025. [2011-12-19 04:19:09] <AlratanMobile> That does not use his energy
  1026. [2011-12-19 04:19:17] <TMIoverload> Amen uses soul.
  1027. [2011-12-19 04:19:20] <Grail> It's within his range of abilities
  1028. [2011-12-19 04:19:21] <AlratanMobile> Abeo: he can, he's just less good at it
  1029. [2011-12-19 04:19:26] <Abeo> Ah, okay
  1030. [2011-12-19 04:19:43] <Ironybot> In this context, "less good" is still past grandmaster level.
  1031. [2011-12-19 04:19:45] <TMIoverload> I thought Amen was better with Soul then Shadow? Or am i misremembering the order
  1032. [2011-12-19 04:19:46] <AlratanMobile> And leaves their chakra open and stable and not dangerous to them, or to us
  1033. [2011-12-19 04:19:52] <Grail> Shadow
  1034. [2011-12-19 04:20:29] <AlratanMobile> Still. I only want to watch him do it once or twice
  1035. [2011-12-19 04:20:42] <AlratanMobile> So we get an idea of the process
  1036. [2011-12-19 04:20:50] <Grail> I'll accept that, we've made less intelligent orders
  1037. [2011-12-19 04:21:03] <Grail> But you better come up with a solid order
  1038. [2011-12-19 04:21:05] <AlratanMobile> We can then practice on a couple more hobos with Einrik watching
  1039. [2011-12-19 04:21:05] <Abeo> You know, we haven't really asked Sake how he feels about soul manipulation personally
  1040. [2011-12-19 04:21:18] <TMIoverload> Blood>>>>>Flesh>>Soul>Shadow>>>Space (as in dimensionality and distance manipulation)>Boundaries
  1041. [2011-12-19 04:21:39] <TMIoverload> So yeah, Amen is better at soul then Shadow, just barely. And he's Cornelius good at Shadow
  1042. [2011-12-19 04:21:40] <AlratanMobile> So Einrik can spot any obvious problems Amen is introducing
  1043. [2011-12-19 04:21:41] <Grail> Huh
  1044. [2011-12-19 04:21:44] <Grail> I was wrong then
  1045. [2011-12-19 04:22:03] <Grail> Sorry about that
  1046. [2011-12-19 04:22:27] <TMIoverload> I'm not sure Einrik will approve of us practicing on hobos
  1047. [2011-12-19 04:22:34] <Abeo> same
  1048. [2011-12-19 04:22:38] <BUTTZ> Sake didn't tell us to stop the souldbinding trick, even though he was aware it would be problematic if the dragons got word
  1049. [2011-12-19 04:22:43] <TMIoverload> Especially since the hobos Amen caught probably aren't willing
  1050. [2011-12-19 04:22:46] <BUTTZ> I think he's probably just fine with it
  1051. [2011-12-19 04:23:29] <Abeo> I remember bob saying that, had we gone with Item, we could tehoretically make a giant soul-beast thing out of 1000 souls to cancel out Amen
  1052. [2011-12-19 04:23:59] <AlratanMobile> We can do our practice on willing junkies
  1053. [2011-12-19 04:24:08] <Abeo> What I'm wondering is if we can make sort of "soul-machines" out of interacting souls we've sculpted
  1054. [2011-12-19 04:24:09] <AlratanMobile> As part of our program to clean them up
  1055. [2011-12-19 04:24:29] <AlratanMobile> Abeo: the blood engine will be a soul machine of a kind
  1056. [2011-12-19 04:24:47] <Abeo> Sculpt individual souls to act as the wheels and cogs of a recursively designed soul-matrix machine thingy
  1057. [2011-12-19 04:25:35] <Abeo> I suppose
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  1063. [2011-12-19 17:31:37] <Arkeus> wb Ironybot
  1064. [2011-12-19 17:31:41] <A_Mad_Oyster> sup irony
  1065. [2011-12-19 17:31:46] <Arkeus> you are coming a bit more regularly lately
  1066. [2011-12-19 17:31:46] <MrTT_Traveling> yo
  1067. [2011-12-19 17:32:04] <Ironybot> More irregularly, actually. With the holidays my schedule has become much less predictable.
  1068. [2011-12-19 17:32:19] <Ironybot> For the moment, however, that means more net time on here.
  1069. [2011-12-19 17:32:43] |<-- MrTT_Traveling has left irc.rizon.net (Quit: Leaving)
  1070. [2011-12-19 17:32:43] <BUTTZ> There's a couple of "entertainment agencies" in the area that keep a tight leash on their roster
  1071. [2011-12-19 17:33:07] <BUTTZ> It's the lousy freelancer pimps that are the worst
  1072. [2011-12-19 17:33:14] <A_Mad_Oyster> ...buttz knows too much for his own good.
  1073. [2011-12-19 17:33:34] <Shot__> Buttz are you a pimp
  1074. [2011-12-19 17:33:37] <BUTTZ> No
  1075. [2011-12-19 17:33:45] <BUTTZ> I used to be involved in politics
  1076. [2011-12-19 17:33:48] <Wutenheimer> epic
  1077. [2011-12-19 17:33:49] <Ironybot> I think I need background information as to how the current topic was brought up.
  1078. [2011-12-19 17:33:51] <Wutenheimer> holiday
  1079. [2011-12-19 17:33:53] <Wutenheimer> giveaway
  1080. [2011-12-19 17:33:54] <BUTTZ> You need to know that shit
  1081. [2011-12-19 17:33:59] <Wutenheimer> grand prize?
  1082. [2011-12-19 17:34:03] <TheInsufferableMystic> Meh he'd get stick for that, and I'd get stick for being all, Nope don't even go there maties
  1083. [2011-12-19 17:34:07] <Wutenheimer> EVERY FUCKING SINGLE GODDAMN GAME ON STEAM
  1084. [2011-12-19 17:34:09] <Wutenheimer> WHAT
  1085. [2011-12-19 17:34:14] <Arkeus> Wutenheimer: yes
  1086. [2011-12-19 17:34:15] <Arkeus> SALE
  1087. [2011-12-19 17:34:17] <Arkeus> EVERYWHERE
  1088. [2011-12-19 17:34:19] <Wutenheimer> I NEED THIS
  1089. [2011-12-19 17:34:23] <TheInsufferableMystic> GAEMS
  1090. [2011-12-19 17:34:24] <Arkeus> the difference is that prioces will vary
  1091. [2011-12-19 17:34:24] <BUTTZ> OH MY GOD I COULD PLAY THE TRAIN-DAD GAME
  1092. [2011-12-19 17:34:36] <BUTTZ> THE ONE WITH $1000+ IN EXPANSIONS
  1093. [2011-12-19 17:34:39] <Arkeus> STEAM IS GOING TO ABUSE WALLET
  1094. [2011-12-19 17:34:43] <BUTTZ> ALL LITTLE TRAINS AND TRAIN SETS
  1095. [2011-12-19 17:34:46] <BUTTZ> ALL THE TIME
  1096. [2011-12-19 17:34:49] <BUTTZ> CHOO CHOOOO
  1097. [2011-12-19 17:34:51] <Wutenheimer> :D
  1098. [2011-12-19 17:35:07] * dr_evil_pinky checking Steam.
  1099. [2011-12-19 17:35:22] <TheInsufferableMystic> You'll never come BAAAACCCKKKK
  1100. [2011-12-19 17:35:34] <TheInsufferableMystic> It has you now
  1101. [2011-12-19 17:35:49] * TheInsufferableMystic cackles like a madman
  1102. [2011-12-19 17:36:06] * Arkeus sees bob checking steam for an hour
  1103. [2011-12-19 17:36:08] <Arkeus> poor bob
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  1106. [2011-12-19 17:38:52] <Wutenheimer> i bought bob a christmas gift :3
  1107. [2011-12-19 17:38:59] <Arkeus> You did?
  1108. [2011-12-19 17:39:02] <Wutenheimer> i did
  1109. [2011-12-19 17:39:08] <Arkeus> You know bob's steam name?
  1110. [2011-12-19 17:39:20] <Arkeus> Or is it a real gift?
  1111. [2011-12-19 17:39:26] <TheInsufferableMystic> ...Hmm Steam's Gift pile must not like my screen
  1112. [2011-12-19 17:40:05] <MrTT_Traveling> gift is german for poison
  1113. [2011-12-19 17:40:21] <BUTTZ> As long as he's got a way to PM Bob he can get it to him
  1114. [2011-12-19 17:40:24] <MrTT_Traveling> manschaft (mann, shaft) is german for "team"
  1115. [2011-12-19 17:44:42] <Arkeus> Dammit, i am really hesitating about the Warner bros pack
  1116. [2011-12-19 17:44:55] <A_Mad_Oyster> JUST BUY IT
  1117. [2011-12-19 17:44:56] <Arkeus> Even though i KNOW i won't play any of the games
  1118. [2011-12-19 17:44:58] <Arkeus> wtf
  1119. [2011-12-19 17:44:59] <Arkeus> -_-
  1120. [2011-12-19 17:44:59] <A_Mad_Oyster> BEFORE YOU CHANGE YOUR MIND
  1121. [2011-12-19 17:45:02] <A_Mad_Oyster> HURRY
  1122. [2011-12-19 17:45:05] <A_Mad_Oyster> NO TIME TO WASTE
  1123. [2011-12-19 17:45:08] <A_Mad_Oyster> SPEND THAT MONEY
  1124. [2011-12-19 17:45:10] <Arkeus> Ok, thanks for helping me decide
  1125. [2011-12-19 17:45:13] * Arkeus won't buy it
  1126. [2011-12-19 17:45:50] <TheInsufferableMystic> But you must feed the beast
  1127. [2011-12-19 17:46:00] <TheInsufferableMystic> Feed the beast
  1128. [2011-12-19 17:46:02] <TheInsufferableMystic> Feed the beast
  1129. [2011-12-19 17:46:14] <TheInsufferableMystic> :D
  1130. [2011-12-19 17:46:53] <Arkeus> possibly getting 2k pacl
  1131. [2011-12-19 17:48:13] <Arkeus> Paradox pack also looks good, but i already have what i want there
  1132. [2011-12-19 17:55:30] <Wutenheimer> oohh, 2k pack?
  1133. [2011-12-19 17:55:53] <Arkeus> go to the big pack thing just beneath the big reduction titles
  1134. [2011-12-19 17:56:00] <Arkeus> Paradox pack is at -90%
  1135. [2011-12-19 17:56:03] <Wutenheimer> i know, i'm loading it
  1136. [2011-12-19 17:57:08] <Wutenheimer> >penumbra
  1137. [2011-12-19 17:57:26] <Wutenheimer> yeah that paradox pack looks pretty good
  1138. [2011-12-19 17:57:45] <Arkeus> too bad i already have a lot of what i want
  1139. [2011-12-19 17:58:04] <Wutenheimer> same
  1140. [2011-12-19 17:59:03] <Arkeus> Anyway, if anyone here wants something, tell me, and i'll decide whether i hate you enough to refuse
  1141. [2011-12-19 17:59:33] <Wutenheimer> arkues, buy me trains
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  1143. [2011-12-19 17:59:52] <Arkeus> God i love typos
  1144. [2011-12-19 18:00:00] =-= Doppelshifter is now known as Shifter27
  1145. [2011-12-19 18:00:15] <Arkeus> <-27
  1146. [2011-12-19 18:00:16] <Arkeus> :-(
  1147. [2011-12-19 18:00:31] <Wutenheimer> whats with the numbers anyway
  1148. [2011-12-19 18:00:50] <Shifter27> I can legitimately say that was steam's fault.
  1149. [2011-12-19 18:00:55] <Arkeus> Until he detonates the bomb under bob's chair
  1150. [2011-12-19 18:01:08] <Arkeus> oh?
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  1152. [2011-12-19 18:02:27] <Arkeus> Oh, i think i know
  1153. [2011-12-19 18:02:37] <Arkeus> he has a countdown of crash until he buys a new computer
  1154. [2011-12-19 18:04:50] <A_Mad_Oyster> No one knows...
  1155. [2011-12-19 18:05:15] <Wutenheimer> phew, managed to load up my wishlist to 10 items
  1156. [2011-12-19 18:05:22] <Arkeus> lol
  1157. [2011-12-19 18:05:23] <A_Mad_Oyster> MORE
  1158. [2011-12-19 18:05:25] <A_Mad_Oyster> NOT ENOUGH
  1159. [2011-12-19 18:05:26] <Arkeus> hadn't done that before?
  1160. [2011-12-19 18:05:29] <Arkeus> It's... hard
  1161. [2011-12-19 18:05:34] <Arkeus> to load it to ten items
  1162. [2011-12-19 18:05:35] <Wutenheimer> AH
  1163. [2011-12-19 18:05:35] <Arkeus> lol
  1164. [2011-12-19 18:10:52] <TheInsufferableMystic> I like how this one turned out, http://i.imgur.com/iDeVN.png possibly one of the best things I drawn in a while, and it only took minutes ;.;
  1165. [2011-12-19 18:12:11] <TheInsufferableMystic> Welp Hopefully Armas will find lots of spirits cause I can totally do spirits
  1166. [2011-12-19 18:16:56] <Arkeus> Anyone else find it interesting that IT hasn't said anything since we shot ourself?
  1167. [2011-12-19 18:17:39] <TheInsufferableMystic> ...Hmmm
  1168. [2011-12-19 18:25:31] <Wutenheimer> IT?
  1169. [2011-12-19 18:25:37] <Wutenheimer> oh, iron trick
  1170. [2011-12-19 18:25:56] <Wutenheimer> also, orcs must die
  1171. [2011-12-19 18:26:03] <Wutenheimer> fucking love that main character
  1172. [2011-12-19 18:29:13] <Arkeus> Bob, can you tell us more about the offscreen meetign with CamellaN
  1173. [2011-12-19 18:29:41] <Wutenheimer> :|
  1174. [2011-12-19 18:29:50] <Arkeus> ? , not N
  1175. [2011-12-19 18:29:53] <Arkeus> Wutenheimer: mmh?
  1176. [2011-12-19 18:35:14] <Ironybot> So, now that our Winter bloodline is complete the topic of getting Amen's bindings to keep us as his master even should we die seems like something we should really get off our plate.
  1177. [2011-12-19 18:36:18] <Ironybot> I am inclined to reference our conversation with Sometimes Merchant for this- order Amen to only acknowledge us as actually dead if he has confirmed that we no longer exist in any form which might be able to become living at a future point. Does anyone see a reason why that wouldn't work?
  1178. [2011-12-19 18:37:01] <Arkeus> Maybe too restricting
  1179. [2011-12-19 18:37:21] <Ironybot> How so?
  1180. [2011-12-19 18:37:27] <Arkeus> You don't like my simpler idea?
  1181. [2011-12-19 18:37:34] <Ironybot> I have not read your simpler idea.
  1182. [2011-12-19 18:37:42] <Ironybot> Or if I have, I do not recall it.
  1183. [2011-12-19 18:37:48] <Arkeus> Ironybot: i don't know, it feels like it could force Amen to be too linked about our death
  1184. [2011-12-19 18:38:14] <Arkeus> Ironybot: Have shared ownership of the blood composite soul engine in our eye with our brother
  1185. [2011-12-19 18:38:21] <Arkeus> make sure it actually IS shared ownership
  1186. [2011-12-19 18:38:34] <Arkeus> Have Amen confirm it (without doing anything else)
  1187. [2011-12-19 18:38:46] <Ironybot> My hope is that by wording the order that way, it will make Amen be inclined to avoid taking action which could result in our death in a place or way where he won't be able to confirm that it's absolute. Make him less inclined to kill us under most circumstances.
  1188. [2011-12-19 18:38:50] <Arkeus> There, Shared ownership of Amen unlesshe can confirm the blood is dead
  1189. [2011-12-19 18:39:08] <Arkeus> So Sake/SB would need to be dead too
  1190. [2011-12-19 18:39:15] <dr_evil_pinky> $10 says this happened http://oglaf.com/sport/1/
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  1192. [2011-12-19 18:39:33] <Arkeus> dr_evil_pinky: not betting
  1193. [2011-12-19 18:39:34] <Ironybot> What, sex as a public spectacle, or that specifically?
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  1195. [2011-12-19 18:39:43] <Arkeus> First time reading oglaf, or getting caught up to date?
  1196. [2011-12-19 18:40:04] <dr_evil_pinky> Specifically, bored roman official makes them fuck
  1197. [2011-12-19 18:40:14] <Ironybot> I mean, the "thirty blond girls raped by baboons for the amusement of the crowd" tale does seem to imply that sexual spectacles were rather common.
  1198. [2011-12-19 18:40:18] <Arkeus> that's impossible not to have happeend
  1199. [2011-12-19 18:40:26] <Arkeus> pretty sure it's KNOWN to have happened
  1200. [2011-12-19 18:40:41] <dr_evil_pinky> What I wonder though-is whether that was considered better, or worse, than them killing one another?
  1201. [2011-12-19 18:40:57] <Arkeus> Depends on the society
  1202. [2011-12-19 18:41:04] <Arkeus> for the greeks, depends who is on top
  1203. [2011-12-19 18:41:10] <Arkeus> After all, the guy on top isn't gay
  1204. [2011-12-19 18:41:12] <Ironybot> Better, presumably. After all, if you order them to have sex today you can still order them to kill each other tomorrow.
  1205. [2011-12-19 18:41:29] <Arkeus> lol
  1206. [2011-12-19 18:41:35] <dr_evil_pinky> Or even RIGHT NOW
  1207. [2011-12-19 18:41:38] <dr_evil_pinky> MULTITASK...
  1208. [2011-12-19 18:41:43] <dr_evil_pinky> Oh, that didn't work well
  1209. [2011-12-19 18:41:53] <Shot__> This is an enourmous slur of my professional conduct.
  1210. [2011-12-19 18:42:06] <Arkeus> Shot__: indeed
  1211. [2011-12-19 18:42:25] <Arkeus> so, Ironybot?
  1212. [2011-12-19 18:42:31] <Arkeus> what do you think of my way to do it?
  1213. [2011-12-19 18:43:01] <Ironybot> I don't really like the idea of Amen poking about in our eye at all, even under heavy restriction.
  1214. [2011-12-19 18:43:22] <Arkeus> He already did, though, and bob did say he could only do what he came to do in that case
  1215. [2011-12-19 18:43:49] <Arkeus> That's a fair point though
  1216. [2011-12-19 18:43:52] <TheInsufferableMystic> Yes but knowledge
  1217. [2011-12-19 18:43:55] <Ironybot> Having lived through something suicidally dangerous once is not really a good reason to do it again.
  1218. [2011-12-19 18:44:01] <Arkeus> I myself am not too keen on making long lasting Amen Orders
  1219. [2011-12-19 18:44:07] <TheInsufferableMystic> Giving Amen knowledge is lolbad
  1220. [2011-12-19 18:44:09] <Arkeus> Ironybot: yeah
  1221. [2011-12-19 18:44:51] <Arkeus> Also, that mind reinforcement charm is definitely a good buy
  1222. [2011-12-19 18:44:55] <Ironybot> Yes.
  1223. [2011-12-19 18:45:11] <Arkeus> Anyone has ideas in order to get a "cheater at learning" trait for armas?
  1224. [2011-12-19 18:45:50] <Ironybot> What are you figuring the benefits of such a Trait would be?
  1225. [2011-12-19 18:46:22] <Arkeus> Being better at learning stuff in unorthodox fashion OR being better at seeing ways to do such
  1226. [2011-12-19 18:47:23] <Arkeus> Also, can i count on your help to try and make it posters clearly label experimentations?
  1227. [2011-12-19 18:47:49] <Ironybot> Hrm. I think we've already got greediness to compel us towards finding ways to get knowledge as fast as possible.
  1228. [2011-12-19 18:48:36] <Arkeus> This could maybe turn greediness more positive, though
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  1230. [2011-12-19 18:48:55] <Ironybot> Certainly, I'm just saying that it seems like an upgrade of our greed traits to me.
  1231. [2011-12-19 18:48:56] <TheInsufferableMystic> Welp Goodnight All
  1232. [2011-12-19 18:49:05] <Arkeus> Ironybot: possibly yes
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  1234. [2011-12-19 18:49:23] <Arkeus> OTOH, a 'real' way to cheat is what bob said about self soul sculpting later on
  1235. [2011-12-19 18:50:11] <Arkeus> there was a hint that romanov could be used with sculpting and amorphous soul to 'reboot' our soul for another different sculpting possition
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  1238. [2011-12-19 18:50:28] <Arkeus> remember the wording, or want me to quote?
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  1240. [2011-12-19 18:50:33] <Gunpowder_Symphony> Gentlemen.
  1241. [2011-12-19 18:50:40] <Ironybot> Quotes are usually desirable where possible.
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  1243. [2011-12-19 18:51:53] <Arkeus> [18-12-2011 | 08:46:52] <Ironybot> I.... suspect that Armas has sufficient innate talent to be able to do that on the fly anyway, even without training on the topic.
  1244. [2011-12-19 18:52:06] <Arkeus> [18-12-2011 | 08:47:39] <TheBeardiestBob> 2Not so much talent, as he could easily Darkening-assisted Romanov-altered soul-sculpt himself to be naturally inclined to using the different form, as he would be to what was his norm a moment ago.
  1245. [2011-12-19 18:52:06] <Arkeus> 12[18-12-2011 | 08:48:00] <Arkeus> lolarmas
  1246. [2011-12-19 18:52:06] <Arkeus> [18-12-2011 | 08:48:04] <TheBeardiestBob> 2Trolly fighting-constantly respecialize yourself to the exact moment you are fighting in, on a spiritual and physical level.
  1247. [2011-12-19 18:52:16] <Arkeus> [18-12-2011 | 08:50:55] <TheBeardiestBob> 2Well, you couldn't really START as respeccing per instant-but it's possible, at least.
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  1249. [2011-12-19 18:53:21] <Ironybot> I did not interpret that as being a use of Romanov directly, so much as an application of soul sculpting and Darkening amorphousness to an internal soul application, which is made easier by Romanov's internal soul focus.
  1250. [2011-12-19 18:53:34] <Arkeus> Darkening is internal too
  1251. [2011-12-19 18:53:38] <Ironybot> I am aware.
  1252. [2011-12-19 18:53:56] <Arkeus> So in that case it would only be assisted insofar as making it internal heavy
  1253. [2011-12-19 18:54:06] <Arkeus> And, yes, the wording is a bit iffy.
  1254. [2011-12-19 18:54:13] <Ironybot> I think the doubling is a rather significant increase in power and focus.
  1255. [2011-12-19 18:54:27] <Arkeus> But the way he said 'respeccing' made me think we could do it over and over again, and i think we might need romanov for that
  1256. [2011-12-19 18:54:36] <Arkeus> Ironybot: totally agree
  1257. [2011-12-19 18:55:10] <Ironybot> Our power for rapid and constant change is an emergent property of Darkening in all its applications, I think.
  1258. [2011-12-19 18:55:41] <Arkeus> I was actually thinking that in the much longer term, it could be possible for Armas to blank his own winter bloodline but leave a 'mechanism' so that he could expend his winter node and then have 3/Soul Laine Bloodline
  1259. [2011-12-19 18:55:44] <Arkeus> or some such
  1260. [2011-12-19 18:55:47] <Ironybot> Romanov, if we were to generalize it, is more about applying single large bursts of power to a large accomplishment.
  1261. [2011-12-19 18:56:04] <Arkeus> That... could also be true
  1262. [2011-12-19 18:56:14] <dr_evil_pinky> Well, seeing as Darkenin normally _________________________________________________________________________________________ yeah I'd say that's right Ironybot.
  1263. [2011-12-19 18:56:24] <Arkeus> lol
  1264. [2011-12-19 18:56:40] <Ironybot> Why, thank you, Bob. Your willingness to back my statements is ever appreciated.
  1265. [2011-12-19 18:56:50] <Arkeus> dr_evil_pinky: and my bit about Romanov might be hlelping respeccing by 'reboot'
  1266. [2011-12-19 18:56:53] <Arkeus> totally baseless?
  1267. [2011-12-19 18:58:24] <Arkeus> ah bob :-(
  1268. [2011-12-19 18:58:37] <Arkeus> Ironybot: I find it interesting there is a 'normally' for Darkening
  1269. [2011-12-19 18:58:45] <dr_evil_pinky> Why wouldn't there be?
  1270. [2011-12-19 18:58:56] <Arkeus> It means there might be other people who have it
  1271. [2011-12-19 18:59:00] <dr_evil_pinky> you normally shoot it at not-you. You chose to shoot diferently.
  1272. [2011-12-19 18:59:01] <Arkeus> Beside rabbit
  1273. [2011-12-19 18:59:09] <Arkeus> Ahhhhh
  1274. [2011-12-19 18:59:17] <dr_evil_pinky> You and your crazy assumptions.
  1275. [2011-12-19 18:59:19] <Arkeus> Right, you were talking about the attack
  1276. [2011-12-19 18:59:25] <Arkeus> :-(
  1277. [2011-12-19 18:59:32] <Arkeus> Just SLIGHTLY insane
  1278. [2011-12-19 19:00:00] <Ironybot> Speaking of totally baseless speculation, I do wonder whether we might be able to use the basic Romanov+Sami combo to keep others from dying. Look at the wording of the Romanov power, "can avoid being claimed by death should Armas' body fail". Then at the wording of the Sami power, "Armas can exert his will on nearyby souls he can percieve". Consider this situation: A friend of ours is shot...
  1279. [2011-12-19 19:00:00] <Ironybot> ...in the head while standing next to us. We exert our will on their soul to stop it from being claimed by death. Does this work?
  1280. [2011-12-19 19:00:18] <Arkeus> Ironybot: i was thinking about it too
  1281. [2011-12-19 19:00:19] <A_Mad_Oyster> Oh yes, speaking of Romanov
  1282. [2011-12-19 19:00:23] <A_Mad_Oyster> And now that Bob's here
  1283. [2011-12-19 19:00:23] <Ironybot> Not talking about resurrection after the fact like Borders would have granted here, just on the spot.
  1284. [2011-12-19 19:00:34] <Arkeus> Whati was thinking was more that we 'give' a life a weak to someone
  1285. [2011-12-19 19:00:36] <Arkeus> with a link
  1286. [2011-12-19 19:00:39] <Arkeus> or some such
  1287. [2011-12-19 19:00:43] <Arkeus> a life a week
  1288. [2011-12-19 19:01:12] <dr_evil_pinky> Ironybot: you'd probably be more likely to have any sort of success the very moment it happened-and need to be there as it happened.
  1289. [2011-12-19 19:01:18] <Arkeus> I think it might be possible. And dead useful for SB/Sake or others
  1290. [2011-12-19 19:01:22] <A_Mad_Oyster> Bob, our winter energy capacity is 60, right? Since each rez takes a tenth, that means it's only 6...but I've got a question
  1291. [2011-12-19 19:01:38] <Arkeus> A_Mad_Oyster: it was 60 before bloodline finalizaed
  1292. [2011-12-19 19:01:43] <Arkeus> no telling what's it now
  1293. [2011-12-19 19:01:47] <A_Mad_Oyster> It's an example dammit now let me type
  1294. [2011-12-19 19:01:49] <A_Mad_Oyster> Our lives, do we "accumulate" them, and to use one, we need at least 6 winter nenergy left
  1295. [2011-12-19 19:01:56] <Arkeus> and wasn't it 100?
  1296. [2011-12-19 19:01:59] <A_Mad_Oyster> Or, each one of them is represented by a tenth?
  1297. [2011-12-19 19:02:09] <dr_evil_pinky> Oyster, that was a sixty for CHAKRA relative comparison.
  1298. [2011-12-19 19:02:10] <A_Mad_Oyster> So we lose our ability to use lives with each tenth of winter energy lost?
  1299. [2011-12-19 19:02:13] <dr_evil_pinky> That doesn't translate
  1300. [2011-12-19 19:02:14] <dr_evil_pinky> at all
  1301. [2011-12-19 19:02:23] <A_Mad_Oyster> Aaaaaaaaaagh, then my question still stands...does it?
  1302. [2011-12-19 19:03:00] <dr_evil_pinky> well, you asked an either or then switched to 'does it' so I don't think you're really asking a logical question anymore.
  1303. [2011-12-19 19:03:06] <Arkeus> dr_evil_pinky: about my theory of making a link to someone's soul to "lend" 'a life a week'. Possible?
  1304. [2011-12-19 19:03:17] <dr_evil_pinky> Regardless, it's the latter.
  1305. [2011-12-19 19:03:34] <dr_evil_pinky> Arkeus-hahaha Armasdies
  1306. [2011-12-19 19:03:41] <Arkeus> Awww
  1307. [2011-12-19 19:03:58] <dr_evil_pinky> you don't give away fractions of your soul prepped to BECOME your soul should you get conventionally offed. THat's like giving.... YOU to someone else
  1308. [2011-12-19 19:04:30] <Arkeus> mmh
  1309. [2011-12-19 19:04:32] <Arkeus> so then
  1310. [2011-12-19 19:04:40] <A_Mad_Oyster> So that means that each life is represented by a tenth of our winter energy, and if we use...say, two tenths, then we've lost "2 usable lives", but not in the way they're supposed to be used, right?
  1311. [2011-12-19 19:05:13] <Arkeus> Would it be possible to establish a link to someone so that, in the even of death, we could, as an active action, exert our will to stop them from being claimed by death?
  1312. [2011-12-19 19:05:36] <Arkeus> (so that we could do it more reliably and from afar)
  1313. [2011-12-19 19:06:45] <Arkeus> I am pretty sure that Armas is currently wastign energy like nobody's business while he uses any of his bloodline abilities
  1314. [2011-12-19 19:06:54] <Ironybot> That would be... hrm. Okay, thinking about what Bob has said about how Romanov works, if we're trying to stop someone else from being claimed by death, what we're actually doing is taking part of our soul, ripping it off, soul sculpting it into being exactly like THEIR soul, and then actually making it BE their soul.
  1315. [2011-12-19 19:07:06] <Ironybot> That is exceedingly complex.
  1316. [2011-12-19 19:07:35] <Ralith> wait wait
  1317. [2011-12-19 19:07:40] <Arkeus> Ironybot: in your question, it doesn't seem to be like that. though i might be wrong.
  1318. [2011-12-19 19:07:41] <Ralith> we can gift (constrained) immortality?
  1319. [2011-12-19 19:07:56] <Ironybot> No. Don't think so.
  1320. [2011-12-19 19:08:01] <Arkeus> In your scenario, it seems more to be using Armas own "fuck you death" but aimed at someone else's death
  1321. [2011-12-19 19:08:38] <Arkeus> OTOH, Romanov is internal, so you might be right
  1322. [2011-12-19 19:09:10] <Arkeus> Wait, not quite- we use energy to do that, not soul sculpting as far as we know.
  1323. [2011-12-19 19:09:28] <Ironybot> What we are trying to do at the moment is figure out how to actively exert our will to prevent someone from dying- not a gift, something given in advance, but an action taken to provide assistance if they get fucked. We would have to be on-site or otherwise able to directly sense their soul, and have to take action immediately, possibly using mental acceleration to act before it's too late.
  1324. [2011-12-19 19:09:37] <Arkeus> So it should be more akint something that internally change, but doesn't involve soul sculpting and thus tearing our own soul off
  1325. [2011-12-19 19:09:38] <Arkeus> mmh
  1326. [2011-12-19 19:09:56] <Arkeus> Yeah, what Ironybot said
  1327. [2011-12-19 19:10:06] <Arkeus> that's why i was thinking of one of those links to track someone
  1328. [2011-12-19 19:10:19] <Arkeus> So that we might be able to exert ourself VERY quickly
  1329. [2011-12-19 19:10:24] <Arkeus> and from afar
  1330. [2011-12-19 19:10:49] <Arkeus> Pretty sure this will only be possible when we are MUCH better at soul energy manip, anyway
  1331. [2011-12-19 19:11:22] <Arkeus> Anyone think we should try to continue precision tomorrow morning, or Ito?
  1332. [2011-12-19 19:11:55] <Ironybot> Indeed. I'm thinking that this sounds like it's possible, but it's a master-tier skill. We might be able to get Ogrimir to teach it to us, but failing that we'll need probably years of practice.
  1333. [2011-12-19 19:12:18] <Arkeus> Even teaching it would require Armas to control energy well, i'd say
  1334. [2011-12-19 19:12:32] <Ironybot> True.
  1335. [2011-12-19 19:12:32] <Arkeus> I think we don't have a choice about learning to control our energy
  1336. [2011-12-19 19:13:04] <Ironybot> Anyway, tomorrow morning: I'm disinclined to make plans until after the auction.
  1337. [2011-12-19 19:13:19] <Ironybot> It might send our priorities in unexpected directions.
  1338. [2011-12-19 19:13:23] <Arkeus> true enough
  1339. [2011-12-19 19:13:33] <Arkeus> which is why i am not phoning ito or precision guy
  1340. [2011-12-19 19:13:46] <Arkeus> Still, i think phoning Rocco for Russian job is ok
  1341. [2011-12-19 19:14:43] <dr_evil_pinky> While I encourage all the rumination guys-you are strongly cautioned to simply shelf external resurrection ideas until you've gotten knowledge of your own soul manipulation equivalent to the chakra manipulation expertise expected for safe experimentation-higher, really but I doubt you'll wait that long.
  1342. [2011-12-19 19:15:05] <Arkeus> bob: that's what we were saying :p
  1343. [2011-12-19 19:15:10] <Ironybot> The advice is appreciated. That was pretty much the conclusion we just reached, in fact.
  1344. [2011-12-19 19:16:18] <Arkeus> Btw, bob- those "chakra levels", they are Traits?
  1345. [2011-12-19 19:16:37] <Arkeus> (Talking about Chakra Cadet Thing)
  1346. [2011-12-19 19:16:53] <Ironybot> Our Chakra Cadet trait looks like it'll become a rapidly-ascending C trait if we put some work into it.
  1347. [2011-12-19 19:17:03] <Arkeus> Yeah, which we must
  1348. [2011-12-19 19:17:17] <Arkeus> Ironybot: you read my suggestion? anything that is a crazy bad idea?
  1349. [2011-12-19 19:17:31] <Ironybot> Personally, I am inclined to play with our Amorphous Bloodline power, though. Not the sculpting part of it, the shifting part.
  1350. [2011-12-19 19:17:56] <Arkeus> What did you think of my way to play with it?
  1351. [2011-12-19 19:18:56] <Ironybot> I would like to learn, at a minimum: How to appear mundane, how to appear like we only have a Summer bloodline and no Winter one, how to appear like we're not a Godling, how to stealth, how to become pants-shittingly terrifying, how to become stunningly attractive, and how to become absurdly charismatic. All those should be within our power, I think.
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  1353. [2011-12-19 19:19:20] <Arkeus> pretty much
  1354. [2011-12-19 19:19:34] <Arkeus> though i thikn some of those could only be achieved by meeting many people sharing those traits
  1355. [2011-12-19 19:19:52] <Arkeus> like, meeting many charismatic people and 'stealing' what they look like to form a 'charismatic persona'
  1356. [2011-12-19 19:19:55] <Ironybot> We should be able to experiment our way to them, I think. Harder, though.
  1357. [2011-12-19 19:20:00] <Arkeus> and, hi Grail
  1358. [2011-12-19 19:20:17] <Arkeus> Ironybot: hard without a baseline, though
  1359. [2011-12-19 19:20:27] <Ironybot> We do have a baseline- ourselves, and everyone we know.
  1360. [2011-12-19 19:20:37] <Ironybot> We can shift ourself around and watch how others respond.
  1361. [2011-12-19 19:20:43] <Arkeus> Well, we don't have ourselves yet
  1362. [2011-12-19 19:20:48] <Arkeus> Oh, true enough
  1363. [2011-12-19 19:21:06] <Ironybot> Adjust our technique in response to their responses, repeat continuously until the result seems good.
  1364. [2011-12-19 19:21:12] <Arkeus> Anyway, do you think my ide to use amorphous soul to try and understand how our soul looks viable?
  1365. [2011-12-19 19:23:45] <Ironybot> It might be. Worth a shot; I don't see it hurting us, at least.
  1366. [2011-12-19 19:23:54] <Arkeus> Yeah
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  1368. [2011-12-19 19:24:04] <Arkeus> What do you think of my ideas for Sake?
  1369. [2011-12-19 19:24:44] <Ironybot> Seem fairly solid, really.
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  1371. [2011-12-19 19:25:04] <Ironybot> If we're the one to alert Lo Fang to his dudes being sick that could build us some more significant cred there.
  1372. [2011-12-19 19:25:11] <Arkeus> While Sake might not be able to DO anything for luck, he can at least try to sense it better
  1373. [2011-12-19 19:25:14] <Arkeus> and smae for illness
  1374. [2011-12-19 19:25:24] <Arkeus> Ironybot: Sake can heal them, too
  1375. [2011-12-19 19:25:31] <Arkeus> Which would help a LOT for creds
  1376. [2011-12-19 19:25:41] <EvilGuile> so... SuperLurk doesnt really let us hide physically, huh? I mean, hiding Amorph Soul is more valuable anyway, but...
  1377. [2011-12-19 19:25:49] <Ironybot> Yes, but Lo Fang can probably heal them as well. It's knowing that they are sick in the first place that helps the most.
  1378. [2011-12-19 19:25:55] <EvilGuile> agreed
  1379. [2011-12-19 19:26:19] <Arkeus> Ironybot: mmmh, not sure he can, though why not
  1380. [2011-12-19 19:26:19] <Ironybot> I don't think any magics let you hide physically, really. Well, teleportation, maybe if you could change your size somehow, moving faster always helps, all that.
  1381. [2011-12-19 19:26:20] <EvilGuile> I dont think Fang knows about Sake yet, which suits me fine
  1382. [2011-12-19 19:26:37] <Ironybot> But from what has been said to us if there's a camera in the room no stealth magic will defeat it.
  1383. [2011-12-19 19:26:42] <Arkeus> Some use illusions, but it's not really hiding physically
  1384. [2011-12-19 19:26:43] <EvilGuile> Go Ping learned chakra healing from Lo Fang. Although whether he and the Disciples can see to his entire force themselves...
  1385. [2011-12-19 19:26:57] <Arkeus> EvilGuile: poison isn't standard healing, though
  1386. [2011-12-19 19:26:59] <EvilGuile> right, I mean the magical SEP 'blandness' field Lurk was said to produce
  1387. [2011-12-19 19:27:02] <frogmella> Super Lurk has the capabilities of Lurk
  1388. [2011-12-19 19:27:15] <Arkeus> So it should have 'blandness'
  1389. [2011-12-19 19:27:16] <frogmella> I asked if I could just copy past the Lurk ones onto the wiki for our powers
  1390. [2011-12-19 19:27:18] <Arkeus> and be able to do it faster
  1391. [2011-12-19 19:27:22] <Arkeus> and pull it off better
  1392. [2011-12-19 19:27:29] <Ironybot> Amorphous Soul should be able to produce magical fields of all sorts. Not just blandness, it should be able to produce fields of any kind.
  1393. [2011-12-19 19:27:29] <Arkeus> but we have to 'learn' what is blandness first
  1394. [2011-12-19 19:27:33] <frogmella> I just suspect we need to shift the amorphous to blandless
  1395. [2011-12-19 19:27:39] <frogmella> And boom
  1396. [2011-12-19 19:27:41] <EvilGuile> if that were true, wouldnt it be in the info box?
  1397. [2011-12-19 19:27:42] <Arkeus> yeah
  1398. [2011-12-19 19:27:44] <BUTTZ> <Ironybot>But from what has been said to us if there's a camera in the room no stealth magic will defeat it.
  1399. [2011-12-19 19:27:50] <BUTTZ> No common, known magic
  1400. [2011-12-19 19:27:50] <Arkeus> EvilGuile: because it's just part of amorphous
  1401. [2011-12-19 19:27:53] <EvilGuile> fair point
  1402. [2011-12-19 19:28:00] <Arkeus> 'blandess' is somethign we have to do ourself
  1403. [2011-12-19 19:28:02] <Arkeus> learn ourself
  1404. [2011-12-19 19:28:03] <BUTTZ> But the goblin magnetic ring demonstrates that magic can interact with EM waves
  1405. [2011-12-19 19:28:08] <BUTTZ> Which means
  1406. [2011-12-19 19:28:08] <Arkeus> 'what is' beiung blandd, actually?
  1407. [2011-12-19 19:28:10] <Ironybot> My short list for basic effects we want in our toolbox is blandness, terror, sexiness, charisma.
  1408. [2011-12-19 19:28:14] <Arkeus> we have to find out, i suspect
  1409. [2011-12-19 19:28:21] <BUTTZ> it ought to be possible to bend light around a camera lense
  1410. [2011-12-19 19:28:23] <BUTTZ> lens
  1411. [2011-12-19 19:28:27] <frogmella> Good enough list
  1412. [2011-12-19 19:28:34] <EvilGuile> cameras can be defeated with disguises and such, although with technology today thats quite a bit harder if they have a reason to look closely
  1413. [2011-12-19 19:28:56] <Arkeus> Shapeshifting will help a lot with that
  1414. [2011-12-19 19:29:08] <Arkeus> Our summer ability + our soul looking like the real thiong?
  1415. [2011-12-19 19:29:09] <Arkeus> fuck yes
  1416. [2011-12-19 19:29:21] <BUTTZ> You can knock a camera out with a laser, or by killing the power, or by killing the medium it is transmitting through, or by using a disguise, or by making yourself actually invisible to it
  1417. [2011-12-19 19:29:51] <EvilGuile> I'm inclined to tell Go Ping about it, really. He kicks it up the chain to Lo Fang, his stock rises accordingly, and when Lo Fang asks how he knew, he goes, 'Armas told me' in that non-excitable way he has
  1418. [2011-12-19 19:29:52] <Arkeus> If Armas could turn purely into a spirit
  1419. [2011-12-19 19:29:56] <Arkeus> or unmaterialized
  1420. [2011-12-19 19:29:59] <Arkeus> or somethng like that
  1421. [2011-12-19 19:30:09] <EvilGuile> just need to be... creative
  1422. [2011-12-19 19:30:11] <frogmella> We can actually
  1423. [2011-12-19 19:30:15] <Arkeus> EvilGuile: we have to verify the info first, i believe
  1424. [2011-12-19 19:30:16] <frogmella> Sami lets us leave our body
  1425. [2011-12-19 19:30:25] <frogmella> Interalized soul manip lets us get back
  1426. [2011-12-19 19:30:27] <Arkeus> frogmella: i meant doing it without leaving the body
  1427. [2011-12-19 19:30:41] <EvilGuile> why verify the info? 'Hey dawg, you read as 'unhealthy'. Go get a check-up.'
  1428. [2011-12-19 19:30:49] <Arkeus> mmmh
  1429. [2011-12-19 19:30:56] <EvilGuile> So Armas can throw his soul at people? Delightful
  1430. [2011-12-19 19:30:59] <frogmella> How did we learn this again?
  1431. [2011-12-19 19:31:02] <Arkeus> I am iffy about using OOC knoweldge to be so sure of that
  1432. [2011-12-19 19:31:04] <EvilGuile> Sake
  1433. [2011-12-19 19:31:07] <Arkeus> We KNOW sake is right
  1434. [2011-12-19 19:31:13] <Arkeus> SB didn't notice, nor did Armas, though
  1435. [2011-12-19 19:31:14] -->| CaptainButthead (~CaptainBu@Rizon-6FFA5EE7.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #golemquest
  1436. [2011-12-19 19:31:16] <Arkeus> and Sake isn't sure
  1437. [2011-12-19 19:31:20] <frogmella> Because we can't tell them anything we know from soul senses
  1438. [2011-12-19 19:31:24] <Arkeus> I would prefer Sake verifiying first
  1439. [2011-12-19 19:31:24] <frogmella> Lo Fang will kill us
  1440. [2011-12-19 19:31:25] <BUTTZ> We just need to talk it out with him
  1441. [2011-12-19 19:31:26] <Arkeus> but whatever
  1442. [2011-12-19 19:31:34] <BUTTZ> Even Armas knows mercury is bad news
  1443. [2011-12-19 19:31:34] <EvilGuile> We know Sake is a better healer than Camella, and he thought so. If your white mage thinks somebody's unhealthy, then I'm inclined to believe him
  1444. [2011-12-19 19:31:40] <Arkeus> frogmella: Sake
  1445. [2011-12-19 19:31:45] <frogmella> I know
  1446. [2011-12-19 19:31:52] <Arkeus> >[Sake]"...Was it just me, or did the Triads, or most of them at least, feel... less healthy?"
  1447. [2011-12-19 19:31:52] <Arkeus> Didn't feel any different to me.
  1448. [2011-12-19 19:31:52] <Arkeus> >"Nor I."
  1449. [2011-12-19 19:31:58] <EvilGuile> Does Sake have soul sense?
  1450. [2011-12-19 19:32:00] <Arkeus> oh, us?
  1451. [2011-12-19 19:32:03] <Arkeus> it's OOC knoweldge
  1452. [2011-12-19 19:32:05] <Arkeus> Bob telling us
  1453. [2011-12-19 19:32:11] <Ironybot> Sake has crazy Ramidreju injury sense.
  1454. [2011-12-19 19:32:14] <frogmella> I know Bob told us
  1455. [2011-12-19 19:32:17] <Arkeus> OH
  1456. [2011-12-19 19:32:23] <Arkeus> you mean "how will we tell we know?"
  1457. [2011-12-19 19:32:26] <EvilGuile> thats what I figured, Irony. Some kinda 'life sense'
  1458. [2011-12-19 19:32:30] <frogmella> I don't mean anything
  1459. [2011-12-19 19:32:33] <Arkeus> tell him we have an item that can detect ilness
  1460. [2011-12-19 19:32:35] <frogmella> Stop linking things
  1461. [2011-12-19 19:32:42] <Arkeus> because can't be too prepared agaisnt doony fight
  1462. [2011-12-19 19:32:57] <BUTTZ> Tell him we rented it
  1463. [2011-12-19 19:32:58] <frogmella> I was reminding everyone to be mindful of the Triad organization in so far as some of our senses go
  1464. [2011-12-19 19:33:09] <frogmella> That was all
  1465. [2011-12-19 19:33:10] <BUTTZ> Or one better
  1466. [2011-12-19 19:33:13] <BUTTZ> Have Amen build one
  1467. [2011-12-19 19:33:17] <Ironybot> I don't think we need to give him any kind of fallacious explanation. Just tell him that he might want to look into something.
  1468. [2011-12-19 19:33:21] <BUTTZ> Limited use poison detection
  1469. [2011-12-19 19:33:28] <Ironybot> He knows we're a shifty motherfucker and won't want to explain.
  1470. [2011-12-19 19:33:35] <Ironybot> As long as our tip is good, he won't mind.
  1471. [2011-12-19 19:33:35] <Arkeus> True enough, Ironybot
  1472. [2011-12-19 19:33:49] <EvilGuile> although yes, if he asks, we can say we inquired with the goblins about poisons in regards to Doonongaes
  1473. [2011-12-19 19:34:07] <Arkeus> If he insists like last time (lo fang), just tell him we thought we should get ways to detect illness
  1474. [2011-12-19 19:34:17] <Arkeus> EvilGuile's idea is better
  1475. [2011-12-19 19:34:29] <frogmella> If he insists like last time we tell him nothing
  1476. [2011-12-19 19:34:32] <Ironybot> We go through Go Ping, not Lo Fang. Go Ping won't press for more data.
  1477. [2011-12-19 19:34:35] <frogmella> That was some bullshit
  1478. [2011-12-19 19:34:42] |<-- CaptainButthead has left irc.rizon.net ()
  1479. [2011-12-19 19:36:40] <Ironybot> Hrm. It has been proposed that we call up Abolec. Can we get consensus on this?
  1480. [2011-12-19 19:36:48] <EvilGuile> Yeah, practitioners dont like giving out their trade secrets
  1481. [2011-12-19 19:37:18] <Ironybot> Upon reflection, I have no objection so long as we do it in a safe place.
  1482. [2011-12-19 19:37:36] <Arkeus> Meng Yun: smile without gloating? Armas.. does not.. understand? <= ahahahhahhahaha
  1483. [2011-12-19 19:37:46] <frogmella> Do it in the hours before the auction?
  1484. [2011-12-19 19:37:53] <EvilGuile> It seems wise to do it BEFORE we call for the Great Einher Hunt of Istanbul
  1485. [2011-12-19 19:37:55] <frogmella> Eh, I see no reason not to.
  1486. [2011-12-19 19:38:09] <Arkeus> Same, see no reason not to
  1487. [2011-12-19 19:38:19] <Ironybot> Then we need to choose a place and method.
  1488. [2011-12-19 19:38:24] <Arkeus> Excpet gaining Odin's attention
  1489. [2011-12-19 19:38:30] <Arkeus> Except
  1490. [2011-12-19 19:38:34] <frogmella> Though it will delay the auction until the next update.
  1491. [2011-12-19 19:38:37] <EvilGuile> and any other thoughts we should share or questions we should ask him
  1492. [2011-12-19 19:38:39] <EvilGuile> would be welcome
  1493. [2011-12-19 19:38:42] <frogmella> Which makes me a sad panda.
  1494. [2011-12-19 19:38:43] <EvilGuile> true...
  1495. [2011-12-19 19:39:04] <Arkeus> The auction won't be for a couple of updates at least, i feel
  1496. [2011-12-19 19:39:13] <Ironybot> I am not inclined to worry about the posting delay, as long as we're taking the proper actions.
  1497. [2011-12-19 19:39:19] <Arkeus> Though calling Woosley probably means 2 updates talking to him
  1498. [2011-12-19 19:39:21] <Arkeus> So...
  1499. [2011-12-19 19:39:22] <Arkeus> mmh
  1500. [2011-12-19 19:40:00] <Ironybot> Well, if we script it well instead of just saying "call him up" in our orders, we might be able to get more done or even go through the entire conversation in a single update. It's happened before.
  1501. [2011-12-19 19:40:15] <Ironybot> Not with him specifically, but finishing conversations, even significant ones, with no additional input.
  1502. [2011-12-19 19:40:18] <Arkeus> True enough
  1503. [2011-12-19 19:40:26] <Arkeus> Johann, for example
  1504. [2011-12-19 19:40:37] <BUTTZ> I still think it'd be cool to get Camella some art her doppleganger made
  1505. [2011-12-19 19:40:41] <EvilGuile> Also, we are now a Godling. We should make people refer to us as 'Our Lord' or 'Our God'
  1506. [2011-12-19 19:40:44] <Arkeus> BUTTZ: hehehe
  1507. [2011-12-19 19:41:01] <Arkeus> EvilGuile: i really want someone to call us Godling in fron to fCamella
  1508. [2011-12-19 19:41:06] <Arkeus> Totallynotawizard.png
  1509. [2011-12-19 19:41:09] <BUTTZ> Guile that would impart belief, and we don't want much of that yet
  1510. [2011-12-19 19:41:19] <Ironybot> We don't need to have people refer to us as "Our Lord" or anything like that- we can do something better.
  1511. [2011-12-19 19:41:30] <BUTTZ> Not until we're so secure that we don't need to lie for a little while
  1512. [2011-12-19 19:41:30] <EvilGuile> true. and as we are a merciful god, we will allow them, to call us Armas
  1513. [2011-12-19 19:41:39] <EvilGuile> will that day EVER come, buttz?
  1514. [2011-12-19 19:41:51] <Ironybot> We can quite literally tell people that if they are ever in trouble, all they have to do is ask for us to come and really mean it, and we will hear them- and it will WORK.
  1515. [2011-12-19 19:42:03] <Ironybot> Then all we need are teleportation power.
  1516. [2011-12-19 19:42:06] <Arkeus> If we believe we might be ablme to jump from heavy divine to full divine quickly?
  1517. [2011-12-19 19:42:07] <Arkeus> yes
  1518. [2011-12-19 19:42:11] <Arkeus> but not now, at least
  1519. [2011-12-19 19:42:21] <Arkeus> lol Ironybot
  1520. [2011-12-19 19:42:22] <BUTTZ> We need to powerup SB for better teleporting
  1521. [2011-12-19 19:42:23] <Arkeus> so true
  1522. [2011-12-19 19:42:28] <BUTTZ> He can move us 30 meters
  1523. [2011-12-19 19:42:31] <EvilGuile> nice one, Irony
  1524. [2011-12-19 19:42:33] <BUTTZ> We need more range
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  1526. [2011-12-19 19:42:42] <EvilGuile> "Call upon me, and be delivered into salvation!"
  1527. [2011-12-19 19:42:44] <AlratanMobile> Thank god it's over
  1528. [2011-12-19 19:42:51] <BUTTZ> They really did it huh?
  1529. [2011-12-19 19:43:08] <EvilGuile> "30 minutes or less, or your next save is free."
  1530. [2011-12-19 19:43:28] <EvilGuile> Since we still have to take public transportation and then teleport the last 30ft
  1531. [2011-12-19 19:44:04] <Ironybot> Ah, speaking of transportation- I was wondering how much equipment Armas' stealth tricks can cover.
  1532. [2011-12-19 19:44:08] <Arkeus> There hsould be other ways
  1533. [2011-12-19 19:44:15] <Ironybot> Presumably a car is too large, but can he soul stealth an entire motorcycle?
  1534. [2011-12-19 19:44:18] <AlratanMobile> My spare bedroom is soiled
  1535. [2011-12-19 19:44:20] <Arkeus> Didn't SB hint he could transport us faster within the sewers?
  1536. [2011-12-19 19:44:34] <Arkeus> AlratanMobile: :-(
  1537. [2011-12-19 19:44:35] <Ironybot> Note that this would be a severe driving hazard.
  1538. [2011-12-19 19:44:43] <frogmella> Did we ever get a full map of the sewers?
  1539. [2011-12-19 19:44:51] <Arkeus> not as far as i know
  1540. [2011-12-19 19:45:00] <Ironybot> We don't have a full map, but Shadowbro can guide us around.
  1541. [2011-12-19 19:45:07] <BUTTZ> We can map it out with graph paper and some pencils
  1542. [2011-12-19 19:45:42] <EvilGuile> it could go by D&D rules; 50 pounds of gear?
  1543. [2011-12-19 19:45:56] <EvilGuile> A severe driving hazard... but very cool
  1544. [2011-12-19 19:46:00] <AlratanMobile> I've just made it home
  1545. [2011-12-19 19:46:04] <Arkeus> EvilGuile: if you want to use M7 in this post to mess with our belief on death, can you pot a experimentation tag on it? i really want posters to get into the habit of showing when there are experimentations
  1546. [2011-12-19 19:46:09] <Arkeus> put
  1547. [2011-12-19 19:46:36] <EvilGuile> I dont wanna do M7 right now - I want to find a way to prove braindeath is recoverable-from. THEN M7.
  1548. [2011-12-19 19:46:45] <EvilGuile> or dont do the M7 at all
  1549. [2011-12-19 19:46:57] <AlratanMobile> It's 1:46. And some of my best mates have brought pros into my house
  1550. [2011-12-19 19:47:18] <AlratanMobile> Very not cool
  1551. [2011-12-19 19:47:33] <A_Mad_Oyster> It's Einherjar Season
  1552. [2011-12-19 19:48:06] <Gunpowder_Symphony> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chili_grenade
  1553. [2011-12-19 19:48:10] <Ironybot> I really think that chatting with Labombard will help re: braindeath.
  1554. [2011-12-19 19:48:19] <Arkeus> Agreed Ironybot
  1555. [2011-12-19 19:48:20] <Gunpowder_Symphony> >The pepper being used is the thumb-sized "bhut jolokia," or "ghost chili,"
  1556. [2011-12-19 19:48:25] <Gunpowder_Symphony> We need to get some of these...
  1557. [2011-12-19 19:48:26] <Arkeus> And improving our regen, too
  1558. [2011-12-19 19:48:26] <BUTTZ> If we want to go the academic route some googling will help
  1559. [2011-12-19 19:48:27] <Ironybot> Pretty sure that he can come back from having his head become chowder.
  1560. [2011-12-19 19:48:49] <Arkeus> Ironybot: pretty sure he doesn't "come back"
  1561. [2011-12-19 19:48:55] <BUTTZ> <AlratanMobile>It's 1:46. And some of my best mates have brought pros into my house
  1562. [2011-12-19 19:49:05] <Ironybot> If we want to go the academic route what we should do is go to a hospital and get a doctor to do our research for us.
  1563. [2011-12-19 19:49:19] <BUTTZ> Did they pick up some street walkers or call an escort service?
  1564. [2011-12-19 19:49:22] <Ironybot> Armas is not some kind of researcher type. He is not good at that.
  1565. [2011-12-19 19:49:32] <BUTTZ> He can do a google
  1566. [2011-12-19 19:49:36] <frogmella> The competition for world's hottest chili is pretty intense.
  1567. [2011-12-19 19:49:38] <BUTTZ> Any asshole can do a google
  1568. [2011-12-19 19:49:53] <AlratanMobile> Escort
  1569. [2011-12-19 19:50:03] <AlratanMobile> Expensive
  1570. [2011-12-19 19:50:17] <A_Mad_Oyster> Buttz has some
  1571. [2011-12-19 19:50:24] <frogmella> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naga_Viper
  1572. [2011-12-19 19:50:35] <AlratanMobile> By the amounts of fucking cash they've left on my dining room table
  1573. [2011-12-19 19:51:27] <frogmella> I'm guessing chowing down on the Doonongaes' heart will net us a handy upgrade to our regen.
  1574. [2011-12-19 19:51:42] <Arkeus> Especially if we had the anti-poison
  1575. [2011-12-19 19:51:42] <AlratanMobile> Sure I said they could crash post-stag, but this is very not cool
  1576. [2011-12-19 19:51:43] <Arkeus> ;_;
  1577. [2011-12-19 19:51:54] <Gunpowder_Symphony> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinidad_Scorpion_Butch_T_pepper
  1578. [2011-12-19 19:51:56] <Gunpowder_Symphony> >The Trinidad Scorpion Butch T pepper is so strong that those who handle it must wear protective gloves. Exposure to the eye or skin near the eyes when handling this pepper could cause temporary blindness. While preparing the Butch T, one should wear a chemical mask or a body suit to defend against fumes given off in the cooking process.
  1579. [2011-12-19 19:51:58] <Gunpowder_Symphony> I WANT TO TRY THIS
  1580. [2011-12-19 19:52:44] <Gunpowder_Symphony> Hazmat gear needed just to cook with the things? YES PLEASE
  1581. [2011-12-19 19:52:53] <AlratanMobile> So, what have I missed?
  1582. [2011-12-19 19:53:19] <Arkeus> Discussion on Romanov
  1583. [2011-12-19 19:53:23] <Arkeus> Discussion on Woosley
  1584. [2011-12-19 19:53:30] <Arkeus> Discussion on Amorphous Soul
  1585. [2011-12-19 19:53:40] <Arkeus> Anything i missed?
  1586. [2011-12-19 19:53:49] <Ironybot> Triads being sick and how we should handle it.
  1587. [2011-12-19 19:55:03] <BUTTZ> We should learn that trick for making letters crumble on their own
  1588. [2011-12-19 19:56:29] <frogmella> Seems like it would be a simple trick using Lo Fang's charm methods
  1589. [2011-12-19 19:57:18] <Arkeus> Hell, messing up with them
  1590. [2011-12-19 19:57:21] <Arkeus> Oop,s i burned it
  1591. [2011-12-19 19:57:23] <Gunpowder_Symphony> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CBU-55
  1592. [2011-12-19 19:57:30] <Gunpowder_Symphony> >fuel-air explosive sub-munitions
  1593. [2011-12-19 19:57:33] <Gunpowder_Symphony> >fireball over a 4-acre (16,000 m2) area
  1594. [2011-12-19 19:57:34] <Gunpowder_Symphony> DO WANT
  1595. [2011-12-19 19:57:59] <Ironybot> What have we fought that needs that kind of attention?
  1596. [2011-12-19 19:58:05] <Arkeus> Oh right, i have a question for bob
  1597. [2011-12-19 19:58:30] <Arkeus> dr_evil_pinky: how long can SB "sustain" us in dematerialized form?
  1598. [2011-12-19 19:59:08] <Arkeus> After all, there is no Reason for SB to rematerialize us instantly for teleport
  1599. [2011-12-19 19:59:14] <Arkeus> and that might be real useful in some cases
  1600. [2011-12-19 19:59:22] <Arkeus> like carpet bombing from enemies
  1601. [2011-12-19 20:00:40] <Ironybot> Actually, if Shadowbro is moving us through the dark, one might speculate that he could put us in the dark, keep us there while he moves wherever he wants to go, and then pull us back out.
  1602. [2011-12-19 20:00:59] <Ironybot> So the range limit is only an apparent range limit- we could really go anywhere he can reach.
  1603. [2011-12-19 20:01:11] <Arkeus> I think so too
  1604. [2011-12-19 20:01:21] <Arkeus> I think he just needs to be within 30 feet of us to BEGIN
  1605. [2011-12-19 20:01:39] <Arkeus> 30 meters
  1606. [2011-12-19 20:01:41] <Arkeus> not feet
  1607. [2011-12-19 20:02:19] <Arkeus> "Pray for me really hard when in danger, and i will come save you" plan is possible?
  1608. [2011-12-19 20:02:48] <Ironybot> I would really want more reliable teleportation powers before trying to use it, though.
  1609. [2011-12-19 20:04:12] <Arkeus> It might be worth asking SB about
  1610. [2011-12-19 20:04:31] <Ironybot> Yes. But for now I think our priority should be scripting up a good conversation with Abloec.
  1611. [2011-12-19 20:05:15] <Ironybot> If we want to actually call him up, and we don't want to waste multiple updates on it, good plans for what to say and try to do are mandatory.
  1612. [2011-12-19 20:05:27] <Arkeus> Agreed
  1613. [2011-12-19 20:06:54] <frogmella> Well let's list down our objectives for the conversation
  1614. [2011-12-19 20:07:20] <frogmella> We want to know how well his chase down of Armin went for one
  1615. [2011-12-19 20:07:22] <frogmella> What else?
  1616. [2011-12-19 20:08:05] <Ironybot> Well, there are several pre-conversation concerns; we need to choose a place that's secure but preferably doesn't give away too much about us, a method for calling him, and provide for security if things go south.
  1617. [2011-12-19 20:08:31] <Ironybot> Can we just do the whole "chant his name three times while focusing" thing to whistle him up? That seems rather absurdly convenient.
  1618. [2011-12-19 20:08:32] <Arkeus> Huh, doesn't give away too much about us
  1619. [2011-12-19 20:08:51] <Arkeus> Can we reliably modify the ey to fool him?
  1620. [2011-12-19 20:08:56] <Arkeus> because if we can, it's perfect
  1621. [2011-12-19 20:09:02] <frogmella> Well we were afraid of even speaking his name aloud before when telling the goblins about him
  1622. [2011-12-19 20:09:08] <Arkeus> Yeah
  1623. [2011-12-19 20:09:16] <Ironybot> Because we don't know what the hell we're doing.
  1624. [2011-12-19 20:09:33] <Arkeus> Well Armas was confident he could call Wosley
  1625. [2011-12-19 20:09:34] <frogmella> I'm reasonably sure he said calling him would work
  1626. [2011-12-19 20:09:36] <Arkeus> in the eye
  1627. [2011-12-19 20:09:38] <Ironybot> Which really needs to change, if we're going to get really into the whole godling thing.
  1628. [2011-12-19 20:09:50] <frogmella> It's not like he left any other means of contact
  1629. [2011-12-19 20:09:54] <Ironybot> We'll need to become very well versed in divine magic.
  1630. [2011-12-19 20:10:05] <Ironybot> Okay, true. The eye: We figuring that's the right place for this?
  1631. [2011-12-19 20:10:45] <Ironybot> Using it would give away that it, y'know, exists. Although we didn't have our eyepatch when we met him, he might not have noticed that it was a demiplane instead of just a nifty fake eye.
  1632. [2011-12-19 20:10:54] <frogmella> We're short on places that could provide good security without paying a price.
  1633. [2011-12-19 20:11:28] <frogmella> Only other place I can think of is the Mansion and that both reveals information about us and has it's own risks, so the Eye is just about all we have.
  1634. [2011-12-19 20:11:50] <Ironybot> Does our eye actually have good security? We've had to fight things in there before. We haven't done a very good job of setting up a home ground advantage there.
  1635. [2011-12-19 20:12:00] <Arkeus> Also, bob did say that with Darkening, even people who would know about the eye would have toruble seeing it
  1636. [2011-12-19 20:12:07] <Arkeus> >ell, seeing the demi-plane
  1637. [2011-12-19 20:12:13] <Arkeus> want me to dig up the quote?
  1638. [2011-12-19 20:12:16] <Ironybot> It's difficult to detect/access, but that's not the same thing as being well-defended after being invited in.
  1639. [2011-12-19 20:12:25] <Arkeus> True enough
  1640. [2011-12-19 20:12:33] <Arkeus> Though it does have SB and Sake and It coming in
  1641. [2011-12-19 20:12:36] <Arkeus> and maybe whaitiri
  1642. [2011-12-19 20:12:46] <Arkeus> if he comes in and attack, we cna gang up on him
  1643. [2011-12-19 20:12:53] <Ironybot> I don't really want to put ourselves in a position of fighting a spirit einher spiritually.
  1644. [2011-12-19 20:12:58] <Arkeus> and we get a OG question too- though odin will get MAD
  1645. [2011-12-19 20:12:59] <Ironybot> Seems very hazardous to me.
  1646. [2011-12-19 20:13:06] <Arkeus> Oh, i don't either
  1647. [2011-12-19 20:13:19] <Arkeus> But we should NOT fight him at all
  1648. [2011-12-19 20:13:51] <Ironybot> Well, want to call him in the mansion, then? Amen could set up a meeting room, conceal his own presence, and be standing by if something goes south.
  1649. [2011-12-19 20:14:01] <Arkeus> Not Good
  1650. [2011-12-19 20:14:07] <Arkeus> Mansion is... too known
  1651. [2011-12-19 20:14:13] <EvilGuile> he wasnt pissed at us - as long as we dont say something stupid, we should be ok
  1652. [2011-12-19 20:14:23] <Arkeus> Yeah, i don't foresee a fight at all
  1653. [2011-12-19 20:14:38] <Ironybot> The mansion is known, but it's also much more publicly linked to us than our secret demiplane.
  1654. [2011-12-19 20:14:38] <Arkeus> We just ned to call him somewhere he doesn't get too much info on us
  1655. [2011-12-19 20:14:54] <EvilGuile> better to use the mansion, then
  1656. [2011-12-19 20:14:58] <Ironybot> Most people don't have secret demiplanes. That seems like an asset that we should keep sleeved at all costs.
  1657. [2011-12-19 20:15:00] <Arkeus> Ironybot: i am unsure anyone will agree to be summoned there
  1658. [2011-12-19 20:15:07] <Ironybot> If they don't know it exists then it can't be assaulted.
  1659. [2011-12-19 20:15:11] <Arkeus> but, good point
  1660. [2011-12-19 20:15:18] <EvilGuile> Summon him outside, walk him in?
  1661. [2011-12-19 20:15:29] <BUTTZ> Why're we calling him in anyway?
  1662. [2011-12-19 20:15:50] <Arkeus> Because we said we would, and we may want to do it before calling a Hit on einherjar
  1663. [2011-12-19 20:15:51] <Ironybot> Because in about five hours we're going to put a bounty on einherjar hearts, and we don't want our conversation to be tainted by hard feelings.
  1664. [2011-12-19 20:15:52] <BUTTZ> I mean what do we have to talk about?
  1665. [2011-12-19 20:16:00] <Ironybot> He specifically asked us to call him up.
  1666. [2011-12-19 20:16:05] <Arkeus> yeah
  1667. [2011-12-19 20:16:07] <Ironybot> Presumably he wants to chat.
  1668. [2011-12-19 20:16:17] <BUTTZ> If he's upset that we ASKED for that, we can claim it was just a decoy
  1669. [2011-12-19 20:16:20] <BUTTZ> Like Einrik hinted at
  1670. [2011-12-19 20:16:29] <Arkeus> A decoy that kills his mates
  1671. [2011-12-19 20:16:35] <Ironybot> Regardless, why not get it out of the way now?
  1672. [2011-12-19 20:16:44] <BUTTZ> No one's going to go out and kill Einher until they've got a win in hand
  1673. [2011-12-19 20:16:53] <BUTTZ> An accepted bid I mean
  1674. [2011-12-19 20:16:55] <Arkeus> "Yeah, i killed your mates, but it was just collaterals. They were worth a good decoy"
  1675. [2011-12-19 20:17:53] <Arkeus> I think it's honestly worse to say they were decoys than they were a worthy bid
  1676. [2011-12-19 20:18:09] <BUTTZ> No one will seriously do the hunting before we accept a winning bid
  1677. [2011-12-19 20:18:30] <EvilGuile> The einher give off mixed signals. Some are like 'well if he died, then he obviously wasnt very good' or 'a death in battle is like christmas to us', but then theres some who are of the thought that 'people that kill our dudes are gonna get a spiritual ass-whuppin' (Armin)
  1678. [2011-12-19 20:18:42] <BUTTZ> We accept the bid, they leave the NN bubble to go hunting, they return to the NN bubble and no time passed for Armas
  1679. [2011-12-19 20:18:52] <Arkeus> EvilGuile: Armin? what?
  1680. [2011-12-19 20:18:53] <BUTTZ> NN time control works both ways
  1681. [2011-12-19 20:18:58] <Arkeus> oh right, but that wa ssomething else
  1682. [2011-12-19 20:19:03] <Ironybot> I think his problem with Armin was that the Rage fragment consumed the soul of the Einher in question, didn't it?
  1683. [2011-12-19 20:19:04] <Arkeus> Armin made a dude insane
  1684. [2011-12-19 20:19:07] <Arkeus> that's... pretty bad
  1685. [2011-12-19 20:19:09] <Ironybot> So he couldn't ascend to Valhalla.
  1686. [2011-12-19 20:19:25] <Arkeus> Possibly that, too
  1687. [2011-12-19 20:19:28] <EvilGuile> itd be a funny thing to get wrong though, buttz - whats to stop overachievers from sending people out after einher before the auction's even over?
  1688. [2011-12-19 20:19:38] <Arkeus> LOL
  1689. [2011-12-19 20:19:43] <BUTTZ> Common sense
  1690. [2011-12-19 20:19:55] <BUTTZ> Some of the bids will be decoys in a goblin auction
  1691. [2011-12-19 20:20:12] <BUTTZ> So the hardest ones, that will garner enemies, should be saved until you have the bid accepted
  1692. [2011-12-19 20:20:13] <EvilGuile> Supernaturals have as much common sense as normal people - maybe less. which is 'not much'.
  1693. [2011-12-19 20:20:26] <BUTTZ> Armas is not representative of the population
  1694. [2011-12-19 20:21:38] <EvilGuile> Grigori?
  1695. [2011-12-19 20:21:43] <EvilGuile> Also an outlier, I know
  1696. [2011-12-19 20:21:52] <EvilGuile> just sayin'. They're out there
  1697. [2011-12-19 20:21:58] <Ironybot> Not everyone can handle being Armas. Heh.
  1698. [2011-12-19 20:22:07] <EvilGuile> Grigori could handle being Armas
  1699. [2011-12-19 20:22:23] <EvilGuile> until the liver damage overwhelmed our regen
  1700. [2011-12-19 20:22:43] <Gunpowder_Symphony> LIVER DAMAGE IS FOR SISSIES
  1701. [2011-12-19 20:22:48] <Gunpowder_Symphony> CANCER BREAK
  1702. [2011-12-19 20:23:53] =-= dr_evil_pinky is now known as TheBeardiestBob
  1703. [2011-12-19 20:23:56] <TheBeardiestBob> Warble Garble
  1704. [2011-12-19 20:24:00] <TheBeardiestBob> Still not starting update
  1705. [2011-12-19 20:24:04] <TheBeardiestBob> that will be late again tonight
  1706. [2011-12-19 20:24:10] <TheBeardiestBob> tomorrow's will be earlier
  1707. [2011-12-19 20:24:28] <Wutenheimer> sup bob
  1708. [2011-12-19 20:27:01] <EvilGuile> oh snap, I am surprised
  1709. [2011-12-19 20:27:18] <EvilGuile> dr_evil_pinky was old man Withers- I mean bob all along!
  1710. [2011-12-19 20:27:47] <Ironybot> That's fine. Still have orders to write.
  1711. [2011-12-19 20:28:14] * Gunpowder_Symphony returns.
  1712. [2011-12-19 20:29:26] <Wutenheimer> so bob
  1713. [2011-12-19 20:29:30] <Wutenheimer> you check your steam?
  1714. [2011-12-19 20:29:32] <Gunpowder_Symphony> Mu hu ha hah hah...
  1715. [2011-12-19 20:29:38] * Gunpowder_Symphony plots destruction.
  1716. [2011-12-19 20:31:20] <BUTTZ> We should get a contact that moves stolen cars
  1717. [2011-12-19 20:31:34] <Gunpowder_Symphony> Could probably hit up the mafia for that.
  1718. [2011-12-19 20:31:42] <Wutenheimer> buttz, triads or mafia. pick one.
  1719. [2011-12-19 20:31:51] <A_Mad_Oyster> .choose Buttz Triads Mafia
  1720. [2011-12-19 20:31:51] <Classhole> A_Mad_Oyster: Triads
  1721. [2011-12-19 20:32:03] <BUTTZ> We've been tight with the Triads lately
  1722. [2011-12-19 20:32:22] <BUTTZ> I was really thinking a third party though
  1723. [2011-12-19 20:32:23] <Wutenheimer> we havent shown the mafia much love
  1724. [2011-12-19 20:32:50] <Wutenheimer> so... an indy group? buttz you hipster~
  1725. [2011-12-19 20:33:30] <BUTTZ> Also we should improve our information database on the criminals of Turkey
  1726. [2011-12-19 20:33:53] <BUTTZ> So I'm thinking we should break into Adelat's office building and take what we want.
  1727. [2011-12-19 20:34:50] <Gunpowder_Symphony> Set her up on a blind date with Einrik. *snrk*
  1728. [2011-12-19 20:34:52] <BUTTZ> Need to shut off the security of course, but it would make a good dry run
  1729. [2011-12-19 20:34:53] <Wutenheimer> i'm strongly against that
  1730. [2011-12-19 20:34:56] <Gunpowder_Symphony> Hilarity ensues.
  1731. [2011-12-19 20:35:00] <frogmella> For some reason I see that ending poorly
  1732. [2011-12-19 20:35:20] <BUTTZ> Wuten strongly against which?
  1733. [2011-12-19 20:35:26] <Wutenheimer> breaking into her office
  1734. [2011-12-19 20:35:36] <Wutenheimer> i'd like to go legit at some point
  1735. [2011-12-19 20:35:39] <Arkeus> Seems a bit foolhardy
  1736. [2011-12-19 20:35:47] <TheBeardiestBob> >killed police officer
  1737. [2011-12-19 20:35:51] <Arkeus> even if we do it perfectly, she'll know files are mising
  1738. [2011-12-19 20:35:54] <TheBeardiestBob> >dismembered corpses in sewers
  1739. [2011-12-19 20:35:55] <BUTTZ> Not HER office, her building
  1740. [2011-12-19 20:35:55] <TheBeardiestBob> >cannibal
  1741. [2011-12-19 20:35:58] <TheBeardiestBob> >go legit
  1742. [2011-12-19 20:36:00] <TheBeardiestBob> ....What?
  1743. [2011-12-19 20:36:04] <Wutenheimer> yes.
  1744. [2011-12-19 20:36:05] <BUTTZ> I know Bob.
  1745. [2011-12-19 20:36:11] <Arkeus> Legit PMC
  1746. [2011-12-19 20:36:15] <Arkeus> like TitanCorp
  1747. [2011-12-19 20:36:17] <Arkeus> :p
  1748. [2011-12-19 20:36:21] <Wutenheimer> head of a triad boss tends to have things be forgiven
  1749. [2011-12-19 20:36:34] <BUTTZ> We don't need to steal the files to steal the information
  1750. [2011-12-19 20:36:57] <BUTTZ> Actually
  1751. [2011-12-19 20:36:58] <EvilGuile> Well, its not like we'd actually BE reformed or anything. We'd have to fake it.
  1752. [2011-12-19 20:37:04] <Gunpowder_Symphony> Break in? Wear Richard Nixon mask, stealth in during regular hours when she's out, make copies at leisure.
  1753. [2011-12-19 20:37:05] <Wutenheimer> exactly
  1754. [2011-12-19 20:37:09] <frogmella> What's a little murder and odd dietary requirements to stop us?
  1755. [2011-12-19 20:37:14] <BUTTZ> If we had legit business in the office we could just have SB do it
  1756. [2011-12-19 20:37:31] <Wutenheimer> you know, that actually makes sence buttz
  1757. [2011-12-19 20:37:41] <Ironybot> I would argue that the word "legit" is somewhat ambiguous here. Ultimately, what is legitimate is defined by those in power; the reality of those in power seems to be wizards and dragons.
  1758. [2011-12-19 20:37:43] <BUTTZ> We show up during the day, make a pest of ourselves, let SB rifle through the files and remember interesting things, leave.
  1759. [2011-12-19 20:37:49] <Wutenheimer> except that they'll have magic dection shit
  1760. [2011-12-19 20:37:55] <Arkeus> TheBeardiestBob: so, bob we were wondering earlier about SB's shadowporting. Does he need to take us out immediately? could he keep us dematerialized in case of carpet bombing or some such? Also, once he is shadowporting us, can't he carry us away while moving as far as he wants?
  1761. [2011-12-19 20:37:57] <Wutenheimer> detection*
  1762. [2011-12-19 20:38:08] <BUTTZ> So we get a chance to scope out their magic defenses
  1763. [2011-12-19 20:38:10] <TheBeardiestBob> Oh, FYI, because Armas IS narcissistic enough he'd entertain the thought: if you can ever not get crushed by Lo Fang in a spar of chakra use where you are limited to the same maximal output and total pool as him, and even one of his Disciples Witnesses it, you could net yourself an invite to meet with the Triad Boss
  1764. [2011-12-19 20:38:12] <Ironybot> And greater gods, I guess. So to "go legit" all we really need to do is gain the favor of whomever is pulling the strings of the Turkish government.
  1765. [2011-12-19 20:38:15] <TheBeardiestBob> THE Triad Boss
  1766. [2011-12-19 20:38:25] <Wutenheimer> arkeus, no. armas be too magic
  1767. [2011-12-19 20:38:29] <frogmella> The dragon
  1768. [2011-12-19 20:38:32] <TheBeardiestBob> the onetime human, long-time converted crucible of ascencion champion
  1769. [2011-12-19 20:38:34] <frogmella> Who won the grail
  1770. [2011-12-19 20:38:36] <TheBeardiestBob> yes, that one
  1771. [2011-12-19 20:38:50] <Arkeus> Wutenheimer: that's a limit because Armas too magic? SB CAN take some magic weapons though, so Armasm ight be more magic
  1772. [2011-12-19 20:38:56] <Arkeus> oh god
  1773. [2011-12-19 20:39:00] <Arkeus> That is fun, bob
  1774. [2011-12-19 20:39:03] <Arkeus> utterly impossible
  1775. [2011-12-19 20:39:04] <Arkeus> but fun
  1776. [2011-12-19 20:39:09] <Arkeus> Of course, Armas will cheat
  1777. [2011-12-19 20:39:15] <TheBeardiestBob> So, a bit of encouragement for Armas to really, REALLY get his chakra use down. And no, I fully expect this to never happen.
  1778. [2011-12-19 20:39:16] <Arkeus> and use powers the disciples can't see
  1779. [2011-12-19 20:39:20] <Ironybot> How generous is "not get crushed" in this context?
  1780. [2011-12-19 20:39:22] <Arkeus> lol
  1781. [2011-12-19 20:39:35] <Wutenheimer> not instantly dieing?
  1782. [2011-12-19 20:39:41] <TheBeardiestBob> this would be as divergent from my expectations as I expect New Game + based Non-True-But-Non-Bad-Endings get.
  1783. [2011-12-19 20:40:08] <Wutenheimer> faring better then we did against camella in the unarmed spar?
  1784. [2011-12-19 20:40:10] <Arkeus> I expect New Game + based Non-True-But-Non-Bad-Endings get. <= what does that mean.
  1785. [2011-12-19 20:40:39] <TheBeardiestBob> Ironybot: it would mean not being knocked down, paralyzed, knocked out, mind-locked, deprived of your senses, for a whoooooole three minutes.
  1786. [2011-12-19 20:40:49] <Arkeus> wow
  1787. [2011-12-19 20:40:51] <Ironybot> That's a long three minutes.
  1788. [2011-12-19 20:40:53] <Arkeus> Lo Fang, that beast
  1789. [2011-12-19 20:41:05] <TheBeardiestBob> yes it is
  1790. [2011-12-19 20:41:08] <Arkeus> We'd ahve to cheat
  1791. [2011-12-19 20:41:18] <Arkeus> and use stealth to hide our use of magic
  1792. [2011-12-19 20:41:21] <Arkeus> or something
  1793. [2011-12-19 20:41:34] <TheBeardiestBob> Remember, Lo Fang is a sensor type
  1794. [2011-12-19 20:41:39] <Arkeus> Yeah :-(
  1795. [2011-12-19 20:41:44] <Ironybot> I really don't think it would be a good idea into cheat our way into an invitation to meet with a greater dragon.
  1796. [2011-12-19 20:41:45] <Gunpowder_Symphony> Get a billion Armas mannequins as per the TIJUANA DONKEY SHOW ploy from a while back
  1797. [2011-12-19 20:41:54] <Arkeus> TheBeardiestBob: So, Lo Fang is THAT respected by Traid Boss?
  1798. [2011-12-19 20:41:55] <Arkeus> interesting
  1799. [2011-12-19 20:41:59] <Ironybot> Not if the dragon is the one setting the terms.
  1800. [2011-12-19 20:42:04] <Arkeus> Ironybot: heh, true
  1801. [2011-12-19 20:42:46] <Arkeus> But honestly, Chakra seems to be a significant part of our future abilities, so we should train them anyway
  1802. [2011-12-19 20:42:56] <Arkeus> TheBeardiestBob: can you answer about shadowporting question?
  1803. [2011-12-19 20:43:00] <TheBeardiestBob> Lo Fang met him when a few times when he visited the shaolin temples. Still does periodically-her 'friend' amongst the dragons is one that lectures there.
  1804. [2011-12-19 20:43:15] <Arkeus> 'her'?
  1805. [2011-12-19 20:43:19] <Arkeus> it's a gal? awesome
  1806. [2011-12-19 20:43:29] <frogmella> This sounds like it would not only require becoming amazingly skilled at chakra magic, but actually getting some unarmed traits that would be able to hold off Lo Fang.
  1807. [2011-12-19 20:43:41] <Arkeus> indeed
  1808. [2011-12-19 20:43:56] <frogmella> Because even without chakras we would get our ass handed to us
  1809. [2011-12-19 20:44:08] <TheBeardiestBob> The Triad Boss? Yes, she does have a uterus and ovaries, and is, in a bi-gendered species, of the 'spawn-carrying' format. So yes, she is female.
  1810. [2011-12-19 20:44:10] <Arkeus> We will get train in melee anyway, buyt this is a good incetive
  1811. [2011-12-19 20:44:17] <Arkeus> lol bob
  1812. [2011-12-19 20:44:33] <BUTTZ> By THAT definition Sake's a girl too
  1813. [2011-12-19 20:44:37] <BUTTZ> And he would object to that
  1814. [2011-12-19 20:44:44] <Arkeus> Armas wouldn't, though
  1815. [2011-12-19 20:44:52] <Ironybot> People object to all kinds of things.
  1816. [2011-12-19 20:45:00] <TheBeardiestBob> I made habanero pot-and-sherry infused stew
  1817. [2011-12-19 20:45:02] <TheBeardiestBob> oh man
  1818. [2011-12-19 20:45:03] <frogmella> Me things the lady weasel doth protest too much
  1819. [2011-12-19 20:45:03] <BUTTZ> Yes but most people aren't dragons
  1820. [2011-12-19 20:45:12] <frogmella> thinks*
  1821. [2011-12-19 20:45:33] <TheBeardiestBob> This soup's gonna hurt tomorrow.....
  1822. [2011-12-19 20:45:42] * TheBeardiestBob keeps eating.
  1823. [2011-12-19 20:46:03] <Arkeus> Anyway, training our chakra is a must given our bloodline, if only for better soul manip, but i actually think with hwo internal-heavy it is, it can be important by itself
  1824. [2011-12-19 20:46:10] <Arkeus> lol bob
  1825. [2011-12-19 20:46:28] <frogmella> Man this would take a lot of time and effort if we go for it
  1826. [2011-12-19 20:46:51] <Arkeus> And we would have to stay on 'alive' term with lo fang, too
  1827. [2011-12-19 20:46:52] <EvilGuile> yeah, I dont see Armas sticking with it that long
  1828. [2011-12-19 20:46:53] <frogmella> We'll get chakra down relatively fast
  1829. [2011-12-19 20:47:03] <Arkeus> incredibly unlikely, but no reason not to try
  1830. [2011-12-19 20:47:10] <frogmella> But Armas' slow as learning will mean we'd be stuck on the martial training phase forever
  1831. [2011-12-19 20:47:31] <EvilGuile> We have 5-6 TIMES the usual amount of chakra. Lo Fang has, what, less than half the normal amount?
  1832. [2011-12-19 20:47:36] <Arkeus> frogmella: well, i suspect we might use our bloodline to learn faster
  1833. [2011-12-19 20:47:57] <Arkeus> EvilGuile: huh, depends what you mean
  1834. [2011-12-19 20:47:58] <Ironybot> There are ways around that, though. Both chakra and fleshcrafting should be able to provide accelerated learning ability, as can soul sculpting, as can magical charms at a guess.
  1835. [2011-12-19 20:48:00] <EvilGuile> He kicks our ass when our soul out-weighs him by a baker's dozen
  1836. [2011-12-19 20:48:02] <Gunpowder_Symphony> Assassinate chakra masters and eat their brains for delicious information. *snrk*
  1837. [2011-12-19 20:48:06] <Arkeus> Lo fang has less than the usual amount for someone of his level
  1838. [2011-12-19 20:48:13] <Arkeus> i am sure he has more than his disciples
  1839. [2011-12-19 20:48:17] <EvilGuile> fleshcrafting brain to accelerate learning ability = scary
  1840. [2011-12-19 20:48:20] <frogmella> We'd be eating their chakras actually
  1841. [2011-12-19 20:48:23] <BUTTZ> Guile the terms for the fight was that we'd be limited to Lo Fang's pool and output level
  1842. [2011-12-19 20:48:26] <BUTTZ> It'd be a match of skill
  1843. [2011-12-19 20:48:59] <EvilGuile> right. He kicks our ass when we have 10 times his chakra amount to burn. Restricted to his level? Oh ho ho no.
  1844. [2011-12-19 20:49:01] <Arkeus> And lo fang has CRAZY skill
  1845. [2011-12-19 20:49:10] <frogmella> Which means we'd need to be at his level of efficiency and his level of martial prowess with at least one style, if he's generous enough to restrict himself in such a way.
  1846. [2011-12-19 20:49:21] <BUTTZ> We'll do it like we do everything else. We'll find a work-around.
  1847. [2011-12-19 20:49:25] <EvilGuile> so we might as well stop talking about it
  1848. [2011-12-19 20:49:42] <BUTTZ> Which reminds me
  1849. [2011-12-19 20:49:47] <Arkeus> What BUTTZ said
  1850. [2011-12-19 20:49:47] <frogmella> Eh we can do it, but it would mean sinking a lot of resources away from other things
  1851. [2011-12-19 20:49:55] <BUTTZ> We should be able to see the Simo memories in Silja now
  1852. [2011-12-19 20:50:10] <Arkeus> OTOH, it might be worth it evn only for the things we learn
  1853. [2011-12-19 20:50:10] <BUTTZ> Might be able to integrate them properly ourselves
  1854. [2011-12-19 20:50:22] <Arkeus> BUTTZ: i think we need to learn better energy manipulation before trying to get them in our head
  1855. [2011-12-19 20:50:24] <Arkeus> well, soul
  1856. [2011-12-19 20:50:25] <Arkeus> first
  1857. [2011-12-19 20:50:29] <EvilGuile> I dont know of memories = soul
  1858. [2011-12-19 20:50:36] <EvilGuile> if*
  1859. [2011-12-19 20:50:54] <Arkeus> EvilGuile: Simo tore out his soul with memories within
  1860. [2011-12-19 20:50:54] <frogmella> Actually in a normal human soul the memories float around in a cloud around the person
  1861. [2011-12-19 20:50:56] <Arkeus> so it's a part of soul with memory
  1862. [2011-12-19 20:50:56] <frogmella> From what we've seen
  1863. [2011-12-19 20:51:11] <EvilGuile> didnt he need the soul for the ascension?
  1864. [2011-12-19 20:51:11] <Arkeus> ^
  1865. [2011-12-19 20:51:11] <Arkeus> he tore out a bit
  1866. [2011-12-19 20:51:11] <Arkeus> not all
  1867. [2011-12-19 20:51:11] <Arkeus> :p
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  1869. [2011-12-19 20:51:26] <frogmella> If it manifests in Silja the same way it does in a normal soul we might be able to see them.
  1870. [2011-12-19 20:51:42] <Arkeus> frogmella; it's not in silja yet, though
  1871. [2011-12-19 20:51:48] <Arkeus> it's in a seperate bubble
  1872. [2011-12-19 20:52:17] <EvilGuile> Also bob, would you say SB showing us how much of an idiot we are is like crack to you, or more like air?
  1873. [2011-12-19 20:53:20] <Gunpowder_Symphony> Anticipated response: "Yes"
  1874. [2011-12-19 20:54:02] <Arkeus> or 'No'
  1875. [2011-12-19 20:54:08] <Arkeus> gotta love nonanswers
  1876. [2011-12-19 20:54:57] <Ironybot> Really, having headvoices is one of the best things we as players have done in terms of getting a safety net against our own stupidity.
  1877. [2011-12-19 20:55:10] <Arkeus> Pretty much
  1878. [2011-12-19 20:55:25] <frogmella> Iron Trick needs to talk more
  1879. [2011-12-19 20:55:29] <frogmella> I miss his snide commentary
  1880. [2011-12-19 20:55:40] <Arkeus> I am annoyed he hasn't commented yet since we shot ourself
  1881. [2011-12-19 20:55:59] <Gunpowder_Symphony> Introduce Trick to Silja and let them fall in love so they can make us gunbabies. *snrk*
  1882. [2011-12-19 20:56:12] <EvilGuile> Yeah, we just be stupid to SB, he catches us before we say stuff 'live'
  1883. [2011-12-19 20:56:21] <EvilGuile> there may be a reason for that
  1884. [2011-12-19 20:56:23] <EvilGuile> may not
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  1886. [2011-12-19 20:57:39] <EvilGuile> need a new album to download. suggestions? have queen already.
  1887. [2011-12-19 20:57:41] <Gunpowder_Symphony> Well, SB seems to be a little more directed in the advancement line, whereas Armas tends to bounce around all over like a ferret on crack, never sticking to one particular subject for too long at once.
  1888. [2011-12-19 20:57:50] <Gunpowder_Symphony> Guile: V2A
  1889. [2011-12-19 21:02:05] <Arkeus> http://i.imgur.com/M8kez.png <= oh steam, they are good
  1890. [2011-12-19 21:02:11] <Arkeus> what fuckers
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  1892. [2011-12-19 21:05:22] <EvilGuile> shit, is it steam discount time again>?
  1893. [2011-12-19 21:05:26] <Arkeus> Yes, it's Steam Rape Wallet Time
  1894. [2011-12-19 21:09:43] -->| YOU (Ironybot) have joined #golemquest
  1895. [2011-12-19 21:09:43] =-= Topic for #golemquest is ``Current thread: http://goo.gl/coZQj | Disc Thread: http://goo.gl/p0wsG | Wiki: http://goo.gl/LB2hZ | Guns: http://goo.gl/LEhh5 | Guns Disc: http://goo.gl/7Tq3r | Dreamer: http://goo.gl/PeLnk || http://goo.gl/U3JE3''
  1896. [2011-12-19 21:09:43] =-= Topic for #golemquest was set by ChicagoTed on Sunday, August 14, 2011 3:05:00 AM
  1897. [2011-12-19 21:10:16] <EvilGuile> Fable for under 12 dollars. I think I can hold out for more!
  1898. [2011-12-19 21:11:43] =-= Arkeus is now known as ArkNap
  1899. [2011-12-19 21:11:52] <ArkNap> trying to sleep a bit, no idea how that will go
  1900. [2011-12-19 21:14:12] <Ironybot> Bob, could you respond to post 357220 in the discussion thread? It raises some questions worth having answered.
  1901. [2011-12-19 21:14:50] <Ironybot> Some of which are not directly phrased as questions, admittedly, but they are there nonetheless.
  1902. [2011-12-19 21:15:49] <EvilGuile> A pack of 13 star wars games. Does anyone really like star wars THAT much?
  1903. [2011-12-19 21:18:12] <Gunpowder_Symphony> You should already know the answer to that.
  1904. [2011-12-19 21:18:25] <A_Mad_Oyster> We all have something we obsess over
  1905. [2011-12-19 21:19:01] <EvilGuile> Look, I like star wars. KOTOR fanboy, I enjoyed force unleashed, I played the battlefield game... thats 5. FIVE, and I am more than sated.
  1906. [2011-12-19 21:20:30] <Gunpowder_Symphony> I've got Empire At War, I'm good with that.
  1907. [2011-12-19 21:50:35] <ManOfTroy> You did like Force Unleashed?
  1908. [2011-12-19 21:51:26] <ManOfTroy> So. is orcs Must Die any good?
  1909. [2011-12-19 21:51:27] <TMIoverloadaway> Never played the Jedi knight games?
  1910. [2011-12-19 21:51:37] <TMIoverloadaway> Orcs Must Die is awesome
  1911. [2011-12-19 21:52:00] <ManOfTroy> From the trailer it just looks like a tower defense game
  1912. [2011-12-19 21:52:00] <frogmella> Great game
  1913. [2011-12-19 21:55:42] <Ironybot> There. Posting things, excessively verbosely as always. Mostly focused on calling up Abloec.
  1914. [2011-12-19 21:56:29] <TMIoverloadaway> Its a bit more action oriented then that, but it's definitely tower-defense like. I'd say it's like a cross between Trapt/TDgames/SomeSortofActionGame
  1915. [2011-12-19 21:56:54] <Ironybot> Also supported having Sake learn a little more about his health sense and then calling Go Ping, and backed amorphous soul experimentation. I'd like that up and running before the auction if possible.
  1916. [2011-12-19 21:59:57] <Ironybot> At some point we will also want to see if our soul sensing abilities are now capable of picking up on people we haven't seen and who haven't focused their Attention on us; it was implied that once we got a finished bloodline that would become part of our capabilities.
  1917. [2011-12-19 22:00:04] <Ironybot> But it can wait for now.
  1918. [2011-12-19 22:03:23] <frogmella> As an addition to the addiction-removal plan Armas may be able to heal people in a more general way through his Lordly Imposition. When the Sami cured the sick they did so through the soul, they believed problems of the mind and body were caused by a disturbance in the soul. We could probably get training for it when we get back to the Laib.
  1919. [2011-12-19 22:04:05] <frogmella> This also extends to the Maori, but they mostly believed that problems of the soul manifested as mental disorders
  1920. [2011-12-19 22:08:05] <Ironybot> If Armas' mental disorders are rooted in his soul, perhaps he'll learn to sculpt away that paranoia in short order.
  1921. [2011-12-19 22:08:08] <Ironybot> ...but I doubt it.
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  1924. [2011-12-19 22:24:38] <A_Mad_Oyster> Hmm, has Bob started the update yet?
  1925. [2011-12-19 22:27:22] <Ironybot> Unknown.
  1926. [2011-12-19 22:37:43] <A_Mad_Oyster> Hey Bob, can people who are able to see souls directly identify us as a 'Godling' just by watching our soul?
  1927. [2011-12-19 22:37:51] <A_Mad_Oyster> Well...those that can, of course.
  1928. [2011-12-19 22:39:38] <TheBeardiestBob> Still laughing my ass off, eating spicy stew, smoking blunts and chugging beer as I watch DBZ abridged. Had never seen it before. Should be done... soonish.
  1929. [2011-12-19 22:39:46] <TheBeardiestBob> Like I said, late update tonight
  1930. [2011-12-19 22:41:22] <EvilGuile> lotta talented guys put that one together. you could pretty much pick any of their names out of a lineup and theyve done a good solo abridged series
  1931. [2011-12-19 22:50:30] <frogmella> http://rabbiteyes.cghub.com/files/Image/074001-075000/74863/934_stream.jpg
  1932. [2011-12-19 22:51:24] <Ironybot> Bob, a question. How prevalent are the kind of "soul quirks" that you cite in the discussion thread, as compared to bloodline powers? Is there a limit to how many of them you can acquire, aside from the fact that presumably they have negative effects on your humanity?
  1933. [2011-12-19 22:52:40] <TheBeardiestBob> soul quirks are rarer-but where encountered, are found in clusters-as knowing how to do it/get it makes it easy to get MORE
  1934. [2011-12-19 22:53:17] <TheBeardiestBob> It's reshaping the soul-so they can do as many as they can contort their souls into.
  1935. [2011-12-19 22:54:38] <Ironybot> Reshaping the soul... does that imply that through soul sculpting we could load ourselves, or someone else, down with a myriad of useful soul quirks, once we figure out what the hell we're doing?
  1936. [2011-12-19 22:54:55] <Ironybot> Or improve the existing ones that we have?
  1937. [2011-12-19 22:55:11] <EvilGuile> I dont see anything about soul quirks in disc?
  1938. [2011-12-19 22:55:35] <Ironybot> The very last post in the thread, by Bob.
  1939. [2011-12-19 22:56:55] <EvilGuile> oh, I was expecting something a little bigger
  1940. [2011-12-19 22:57:23] <EvilGuile> and yeah, it sounds that way. kinda dangerous though, twisting your soul into a pretzel
  1941. [2011-12-19 22:57:25] <Ironybot> It is from small bits of information that large bits of speculation grow.
  1942. [2011-12-19 22:58:07] <EvilGuile> Camella's soul attention in particular seems like something we could try to mimic, since we're around it so often
  1943. [2011-12-19 22:58:10] <Ironybot> We don't really have any evidence that a pretzel soul is somehow worse off than the usual blob structure. Certainly, we seem better off with our own soul's new endoskeletal build.
  1944. [2011-12-19 22:58:57] <Ironybot> But yes, Camella's soul eyes are something we can observe and perhaps replicate.
  1945. [2011-12-19 22:59:03] <Ironybot> ...then graft onto all the Russians.
  1946. [2011-12-19 22:59:38] <EvilGuile> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LH9BYgyDAeM
  1947. [2011-12-19 22:59:38] <Classhole> EvilGuile: Golden Boy Matchbot Twenty - Unwell 【AMV】 - length 3m 51s - rated 4.85/5.0 (27) - 939 views - elroymachinex3 on 2010.02.20
  1948. [2011-12-19 22:59:53] <frogmella> We're going to end up inadvertently giving a quarter of the vagrant population superpowers through experimentation aren't we?
  1949. [2011-12-19 23:00:11] <EvilGuile> we can only hope
  1950. [2011-12-19 23:00:22] <Ironybot> Eh, maybe.
  1951. [2011-12-19 23:01:20] <EvilGuile> Hard to think of a more worthwhile thing for the russians to learn than something that lets them keep track of a supernatural enemy no matter what
  1952. [2011-12-19 23:01:27] <EvilGuile> I think I'd rate that even higher than basic chakra
  1953. [2011-12-19 23:03:10] <Ironybot> But seeing as we have an idea of how to teach chakra, or at least someone has an idea of how to teach it, while this appears to be something Camella developed entirely spontaneously and we don't know how to teach it... the Russians getting it is basically entirely dependent upon our own success with soul sculpting mad science.
  1954. [2011-12-19 23:04:35] <TheBeardiestBob> Ironybot: the problem with that is the innate shape of a soul is nearly optimal for total magical energy access-so the more quirks you add, in general, the less power you have in your soul.
  1955. [2011-12-19 23:05:11] <Ironybot> Ah. That would be why we lost 40% of our power by getting our soul reshaped for the composite, then?
  1956. [2011-12-19 23:06:47] <TheBeardiestBob> In this case, while being directly converted to soul stability and durability: that being, what your soul/bloodline combo lost in raw power, it gained as resilience even as it gained flexibility.
  1957. [2011-12-19 23:06:59] <TheBeardiestBob> But yes, Ironybot
  1958. [2011-12-19 23:08:35] <Ironybot> So if we get good enough at soul sculpting- become some kind of soul sculpting Michaelangelo- then it's possible that we could add soul quirks to people in such a way that although they lose power, they not only gain the benefits of the quirks themselves but are also able to translate that lost power into other benefits?
  1959. [2011-12-19 23:15:05] <A_Mad_Oyster> We should make our soul appear as un-greedy as possible
  1960. [2011-12-19 23:15:20] <Ironybot> ...why?
  1961. [2011-12-19 23:15:38] <A_Mad_Oyster> So supernaturals won't go on sayng 'I clearly see the g.reed in your soul, yaddah yaddah'
  1962. [2011-12-19 23:16:07] <Ironybot> What are we going to pretend is our driving force, then?
  1963. [2011-12-19 23:16:23] <A_Mad_Oyster> ...need?
  1964. [2011-12-19 23:16:54] <Ironybot> ...
  1965. [2011-12-19 23:25:21] <Ralith> Ironybot: why do we need to think they know our driving force?
  1966. [2011-12-19 23:25:57] <Ironybot> Because having a soul that is largely absent of motivation would be abnormal and reveal that we're hiding something.
  1967. [2011-12-19 23:26:01] <Ralith> need them to think*
  1968. [2011-12-19 23:26:07] <Ralith> oh, good point
  1969. [2011-12-19 23:26:11] <Ralith> we want to hide the fact that we can hide things
  1970. [2011-12-19 23:26:28] <Ralith> greed seems like a fairly harmless motivation tbh
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  1972. [2011-12-19 23:26:33] <Ralith> insofar as motivations go
  1973. [2011-12-19 23:26:39] <A_Mad_Oyster> Shh, don't say the G-word like that
  1974. [2011-12-19 23:27:17] <BUTTZ> We should try pretending to be some sort of weird love-motivated hippie sometime
  1975. [2011-12-19 23:27:17] <Ralith> people trust greed
  1976. [2011-12-19 23:27:20] <Ralith> they know how to deal with it
  1977. [2011-12-19 23:27:22] <Ralith> also ahahahaha
  1978. [2011-12-19 23:27:29] <A_Mad_Oyster> Yeah, we trust him
  1979. [2011-12-19 23:27:36] <Ralith> greed is simple and straightforward and predictable
  1980. [2011-12-19 23:27:40] <A_Mad_Oyster> Thing is, he gets a bit mad with all those pings...
  1981. [2011-12-19 23:27:42] <Ralith> not that WE are but still
  1982. [2011-12-19 23:27:53] <Gunpowder_Symphony> ...G-word?
  1983. [2011-12-19 23:28:14] <A_Mad_Oyster> Yes, G.reed. Just...don't say it so much without the period
  1984. [2011-12-19 23:28:19] <BUTTZ> Gleed
  1985. [2011-12-19 23:28:25] <BUTTZ> as the North Koreans would say
  1986. [2011-12-19 23:28:28] <Gunpowder_Symphony> What is wrong with saying greed?
  1987. [2011-12-19 23:28:43] <A_Mad_Oyster> C-L's gonna get pissed with all those pings
  1988. [2011-12-19 23:28:50] <Captain-Lightning> Not really
  1989. [2011-12-19 23:28:53] <Gunpowder_Symphony> Eh what?
  1990. [2011-12-19 23:28:58] <Captain-Lightning> I just sort of tab over and then tab back
  1991. [2011-12-19 23:29:05] <Gunpowder_Symphony> Pings?
  1992. [2011-12-19 23:29:11] <A_Mad_Oyster> Oh come on, you've quitted before from all the pings
  1993. [2011-12-19 23:29:55] <Ironybot> You... have a macro set up to ping you whenever someone says "greed"?
  1994. [2011-12-19 23:29:59] <Ironybot> Why?
  1995. [2011-12-19 23:30:07] <Captain-Lightning> My name is Greed on six other networks
  1996. [2011-12-19 23:30:15] <A_Mad_Oyster> And his 'pings' are taunts from TF2
  1997. [2011-12-19 23:30:17] <Captain-Lightning> Would be on this one too, but I am known as an admin on two sites as this
  1998. [2011-12-19 23:30:23] <Ironybot> Ah. That explains that, then.
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  2002. [2011-12-19 23:38:38] <TheBeardiestBob> OKAY
  2003. [2011-12-19 23:38:51] <TheBeardiestBob> finally can drag myself away from DBZ Abridged
  2004. [2011-12-19 23:38:51] <A_Mad_Oyster> ?
  2005. [2011-12-19 23:38:56] <TheBeardiestBob> update making time
  2006. [2011-12-19 23:39:14] <Ralith> :D
  2007. [2011-12-19 23:39:51] <A_Mad_Oyster> Aaaand that means time to get some sleep
  2008. [2011-12-19 23:39:57] <A_Mad_Oyster> Night
  2009. [2011-12-19 23:41:40] |<-- A_Mad_Oyster has left irc.rizon.net (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
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