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  1. [17:31] <ludx> I was there too and you can see me joining the channel in the log
  2. [17:31] <xxxgoodgirls> im not saying the coin is screwed, im just saying the conversion was legit
  3. [17:32] <xxxgoodgirls> and the skype one is legit too
  4. [17:32] <ludx> also those skype names are all correct
  5. [17:33] <erter> what is alty wallet ?
  6. [17:33] <erter> nr 4 on richlist? for sure?
  7. [17:33] <erter> he didn't sell ?
  8. [17:35] <ludx> I dont know.. 3rd/4th.. maybe
  9. [17:35] <ludx> I know he's sold some to cover expenses, he said it himself yesterday
  10. [17:36] == cecar [ba57b4fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.186.87.180.253] has joined #cloakcoin
  11. [17:36] <cd567> @fullhdpixel is new?
  12. [17:37] <+`RainbowDash> fullhdpixel: is the designer
  13. [17:37] <@fullhdpixel> ^^
  14. [17:37] <+`RainbowDash> fullhdpixel: have you heard from alty
  15. [17:37] <+`RainbowDash> ?
  16. [17:37] <+`RainbowDash> :p
  17. [17:38] <@fullhdpixel> a couple days ago, before the weekend I think
  18. [17:38] <cd567> hi,fullhdpixel any update?
  19. [17:38] <erter> you knew about audit and fail?
  20. [17:39] <@fullhdpixel> No, I don't know about any of that
  21. [17:39] <@fullhdpixel> I actually came here to find alty
  22. [17:39] <Nukleuz_> alty was on IRC yesterday
  23. [17:40] <Nukleuz_> he's on vacation right now apparently
  24. [17:40] == peterEdi [81d7e6cc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.129.215.230.204] has joined #cloakcoin
  25. [17:41] <erter> not working with fix now?
  26. [17:42] <Nukleuz_> main dev is
  27. [17:42] <Nukleuz_> not alty
  28. [17:43] <Nukleuz_> main dev is working on a fix asap i heard, and was paid 10 btc 2 days ago to do it
  29. [17:43] <+`RainbowDash> oh
  30. [17:43] <+`RainbowDash> kel
  31. [17:43] <+`RainbowDash> kewl
  32. [17:43] <Nukleuz_> so that they can make a push towards one marke
  33. [17:43] <Nukleuz_> market*
  34. [17:44] <ggggggfgh> 10 BTC @+@
  35. [17:44] <ggggggfgh> MD?
  36. [17:44] == szuwi_ [5bdc270f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.220.39.15] has joined #cloakcoin
  37. [17:44] <Nukleuz_> to fix things soon i heard from gnome yesterday
  38. [17:44] <Nukleuz_> from his channel where him and alty were talking
  39. [17:45] <Seio_> just for the reminders... http://pastebin.com/Dnq3yAhf
  40. [17:46] <+`RainbowDash> so
  41. [17:46] == acejudas [~Ace@cpe-70-114-3-226.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #cloakcoin
  42. [17:50] <ggggggfgh> got another 100Cloak...
  43. [17:50] <Nukleuz_> the future seems so risky for cloak
  44. [17:50] == jackery [4a844b8a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.132.75.138] has joined #cloakcoin
  45. [17:50] <ggggggfgh> yes
  46. [17:51] <Nukleuz_> is that why you're buying lol
  47. [17:51] <smallbit> lol : <+MrRGnome> I honestly do not know
  48. [17:51] <erter> what to think about it
  49. [17:51] == cryptloc0 [80205a31@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.32.90.49] has joined #cloakcoin
  50. [17:51] <erter> i am afraid that alty will leave this coin
  51. [17:51] <Nukleuz_> the fact that when i asked alty
  52. [17:51] <smallbit> who cares
  53. [17:52] == Arathorn [d951c9be@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.217.81.201.190] has joined #cloakcoin
  54. [17:52] <smallbit> the coin is not one person
  55. [17:52] <Nukleuz_> if he sold any coins and he said yes he regained his initial investment
  56. [17:52] <smallbit> that would be a concern if it was
  57. [17:52] <Nukleuz_> without hesitation, it shows me he's pretty honest. but yeah that's something i worry about too erter
  58. [17:52] <smallbit> damnit am i the only one that watches the rich list
  59. [17:52] <Nukleuz_> but then again, he coudl have left aleady if he wanted to. I think he still holds a ton of cloak
  60. [17:52] <smallbit> he holds about 150k it looks like
  61. [17:52] <Nukleuz_> and is pushing for one market now asap, which is why he's sort of rushing a solution
  62. [17:52] <entso> good time to buy cloak now?
  63. [17:53] <Nukleuz_> which wallet is his smalbit
  64. [17:53] <Nukleuz_> small*
  65. [17:53] <erter> give me please his address on richlist
  66. [17:53] <erter> you know
  67. [17:53] <erter> they could sell off
  68. [17:53] <erter> then rebuy much lower
  69. [17:53] <erter> and withdraw part o coins to another wallet lol
  70. [17:53] <smallbit> DAMNIT i closed my snipping tool. I compare every morning by refreshing after i use my snipping tool.
  71. [17:53] <smallbit> there are only two wallets with 150k right now
  72. [17:53] <smallbit> its one of them
  73. [17:53] <smallbit> i forget which
  74. [17:54] == yogibaer [29ea1b18@gateway/web/freenode/ip.41.234.27.24] has joined #cloakcoin
  75. [17:55] <Nukleuz_> we'll see which one sold a lot the past 2 weeks
  76. [17:55] <Nukleuz_> but 150k is very cnosiderable amount
  77. [17:55] <ggggggfgh> is 340K to 15K because of inside trading?
  78. [17:55] <Nukleuz_> and joe still holds a lot of cloak i believe
  79. [17:55] <Nukleuz_> no clue
  80. [17:56] <erter> i guess
  81. [17:56] <erter> that to 100k level
  82. [17:56] <Nukleuz_> and actually, it's normal for alty to make some money off his efforts thus far
  83. [17:56] <erter> was normal correction after bubble. huge dump but normal at chart
  84. [17:57] <erter> but at some range, dump was so weird on chart. alltime rsi dying, macd dying etc
  85. [17:57] == DiCEr1904 [~textual@108-249-102-71.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com]
  86. [17:57] <erter> and dump dump dump
  87. [17:57] <Arathorn> Hello!
  88. [17:57] <erter> somepone knew that cloak is not trustless
  89. [17:57] <negamus_> If alty was leaving the coin, why pay the MD 10 btc 2 days ago to conitue coding.
  90. [17:57] <Nukleuz_> ^
  91. [17:57] <Arathorn> Ok, Is that chat protocol real or a fake?
  92. [17:57] <Nukleuz_> he's not leaving, and he's still very honest
  93. [17:57] == MrBoh [053f9304@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.63.147.4] has joined #cloakcoin
  94. [17:57] <Seio_> it's real
  95. [17:58] <Nukleuz_> didn't lie about even selling some coins to regain his initial investment
  96. [17:58] <ggggggfgh> @erter. yes, it's not normal . weird
  97. [17:58] <Nukleuz_> also you can tell by the back and forth between him and mrgnome that they'er trying to work on a solution
  98. [17:58] == ChrisPR4 [2ea5d0c4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.46.165.208.196] has joined #cloakcoin
  99. [17:58] <ChrisPR4> are you kidding me guys
  100. [17:58] <ChrisPR4> where is alty? where are the devs?
  101. [17:58] <Nukleuz_> kidding about?
  102. [17:59] == peterEdi [81d7e6cc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.129.215.230.204] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
  103. [17:59] <Nukleuz_> alty is on vacation, devs working on a solution for the failed audit
  104. [17:59] <Nukleuz_> well the main dev* i don't know about the other devs
  105. [17:59] <Nukleuz_> and actually, anyone spoke to joe lately?
  106. [17:59] <Arathorn> Ok, what is the main point of the protocol, that one of the team was thrown out because he thinks posa does not work, an devs dumped cloak?
  107. [17:59] <smallbit> do you think the 10btc came from alty?
  108. [18:00] <Nukleuz_> who else would it come from
  109. [18:00] <smallbit> anyone else on the dev team that isnt on vacay
  110. [18:00] <Nukleuz_> was joe in here yesterday?
  111. [18:00] <Nukleuz_> joe's the onemarket dev, we should ask him what's up
  112. [18:01] <noobsticks> I think I saw him logged in on sunday?
  113. [18:01] <negamus_> <+MrRGnome> He was jsut paid 10 bitcoin yesterday to get cracking on a quicker solution
  114. [18:01] <Nukleuz_> and i think he bought coins at 70k and been holding
  115. [18:02] == bruins [aa3f3313@gateway/web/freenode/ip.170.63.51.19] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
  116. [18:03] == luckydag [31d4e737@gateway/web/freenode/ip.49.212.231.55] has joined #cloakcoin
  117. [18:03] <Seio_> that part meens nothing to me. dev got paid 10btc? so what? will that magicaly produce perfectly working solution? if he's gonna rush things so just to have anything ready asap, beacuse he was paid, i'm worried it might be just another failed solution....
  118. [18:03] <Seio_> but that's my opinion...
  119. [18:04] <negamus_> That so who asked who paid.
  120. [18:04] <negamus_> *to
  121. [18:04] <iamfx> smallbit is there any proof that the richlist are the devs wallets?
  122. [18:04] == quobat [~quobat@mnch-4d042b89.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #cloakcoin
  123. [18:05] <smallbit> no I have just been watching it and the timing lines up
  124. [18:05] <iamfx> I think initial distribution is really a general problem
  125. [18:05] == jkhjkh [860267c2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.134.2.103.194] has joined #cloakcoin
  126. [18:05] == nner [6bb2c8de@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.107.178.200.222] has joined #cloakcoin
  127. [18:06] <iamfx> i mean look how dependent the community is on single individuals
  128. [18:06] <iamfx> also it is not healthy for the devs
  129. [18:06] <iamfx> alty is on vacation and people are stressing the fuck out of him
  130. [18:07] <jkhjkh> how can you go on vacation in times like these?
  131. [18:07] <Arathorn> yes
  132. [18:07] <iamfx> lol
  133. [18:07] == nner [6bb2c8de@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.107.178.200.222] has quit [Client Quit]
  134. [18:07] <Arathorn> you can´t do that
  135. [18:07] <ggggggfgh> because he is french ^^?
  136. [18:07] <iamfx> that s the point: he can
  137. [18:07] == nner [6bb2c8ca@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.107.178.200.202] has joined #cloakcoin
  138. [18:07] <erter> explorer down, why ?
  139. [18:07] <jkhjkh> also, blockexplorer seems to be down, who runs the blockexplorer?
  140. [18:07] <iamfx> where is the document that says that he cant
  141. [18:08] <erter> explorer down right after q of altys wallet at bcc lol https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=637704.msg8455293#msg8455293
  142. [18:08] <negamus_> Generally vacations are set ahead of time. It's not like today I'll say, damn let me take a 10 day vacation and hope work gives me pto.
  143. [18:08] <jkhjkh> yeah, thts whay i checked!
  144. [18:08] <CloakLotto> !tip ludx 0.99500000
  145. [18:08] <tipcloak> CloakLotto tipped ludx 0.995 CLOAK! "/msg tipcloak help" to claim.
  146. [18:08] <CloakLotto> JACKPOT WINNER: ludx won 0.99500000 CLOAK. Next drawing is in 4.00 hours. Use "!tip CloakLotto AMOUNT" to enter the lottery or increase your stake. Make sure both CloakLotto and tipcloak are in the channel first. House fee is 0.50% per game. Commands: @infor @whosin @lottotime @top
  147. [18:08] <iamfx> when I read the posts it sounds as if every single user has the right to ring alty s phone whenever they want or otherwise be pissed
  148. [18:09] <Arathorn> No
  149. [18:09] <iamfx> then you should have created a proper community structure in advance...then you could blame him
  150. [18:09] == nner [6bb2c8ca@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.107.178.200.202] has quit [Client Quit]
  151. [18:09] <Arathorn> But he could look into ne inet once a day an look
  152. [18:09] <iamfx> but fact is, that you didnt and so you should look at the situation
  153. [18:09] == nner [6bb2c8c3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.107.178.200.195] has joined #cloakcoin
  154. [18:10] == b00mit [~b00mit@50.23.113.194-static.reverse.softlayer.com] has joined #cloakcoin
  155. [18:10] <jkhjkh> whats happening with blockexplorer?
  156. [18:10] <smallbit> cloak isnt based on alty. period. alty however seems to be a lightning rod for some reason
  157. [18:10] <ggggggfgh> the most important is.... is this bug will be fixed ?
  158. [18:10] == noobsticks [~noobstick@wired014.math.utah.edu] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
  159. [18:10] <smallbit> block explorer working for me
  160. [18:11] <ggggggfgh> BlockExplorer working
  161. [18:11] <jkhjkh> ok, its working now, richlist still down tho
  162. [18:11] == nner [6bb2c8c3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.107.178.200.195] has quit [Client Quit]
  163. [18:11] == nner [6bb2c8c2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.107.178.200.194] has joined #cloakcoin
  164. [18:11] <erter> nr 4 with 40k today
  165. [18:11] <erter> this is alty wallet?
  166. [18:11] <jkhjkh> yeah
  167. [18:11] <erter> http://cloak.blockexplorer.cc/richlist/
  168. [18:12] == noobsticks [~noobstick@128-110-65-165.uconnect.utah.edu] has joined #cloakcoin
  169. [18:12] <jkhjkh> cant load richlist
  170. [18:12] <smallbit> meh
  171. [18:13] == wheat [~wheatclov@50-77-133-244-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds]
  172. [18:13] == Gfdcvnhh [47eac722@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.71.234.199.34] has joined #cloakcoin
  173. [18:13] == nner [6bb2c8c2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.107.178.200.194] has quit [Client Quit]
  174. [18:13] <Gfdcvnhh> Sooo
  175. [18:14] <b00mit> it loaded for me just now.
  176. [18:14] <smallbit> yeah its up
  177. [18:14] == nner [6bb2c8cb@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.107.178.200.203] has joined #cloakcoin
  178. [18:14] <jkhjkh> yeah, working again
  179. [18:14] <smallbit> hickup
  180. [18:14] <luckydag> so alty sold 40K cloaks today? am I right?
  181. [18:14] <Gfdcvnhh> It goes down all the time
  182. [18:15] <jkhjkh> seems like it
  183. [18:15] <jkhjkh> not a good sign if you ask me
  184. [18:15] <Scurvyhash> !tip CloakLotto 1
  185. [18:15] <tipcloak> Scurvyhash tipped CloakLotto 1 CLOAK! "/msg tipcloak help" to claim.
  186. [18:15] <CloakLotto> Scurvyhash is in for 1.00000000 with odds: 100.00%. JACKPOT *** 0.99500000 *** Next drawing is in 3.88 hours. Use "!tip CloakLotto AMOUNT" to enter the lottery or increase your stake. Make sure both CloakLotto and tipcloak are in the channel first. House fee is 0.50% per game. Commands: @infor @whosin @lottotime @top
  187. [18:15] <luckydag> block explorer and richlist working
  188. [18:16] <Nukleuz_> didn't #2 used to have 200 something thousand cloak
  189. [18:16] <Nukleuz_> i htink #2 was darkprotno
  190. [18:16] == nner [6bb2c8cb@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.107.178.200.203] has quit [Client Quit]
  191. [18:16] <Nukleuz_> poor guy, he's down a lot
  192. [18:16] <luckydag> but why alty sold so many coins, for what purpose ?
  193. [18:16] <Nukleuz_> well he said he recovered his initial investment
  194. [18:16] <Seio_> vacation expenses perhaps ;P
  195. [18:16] <jkhjkh> look at it, hes not selling, hes shifting funds across wallets
  196. [18:17] <luckydag> oh, and how did most dev vanish?
  197. [18:17] <jkhjkh> maybe for staking purposes
  198. [18:17] <luckydag> Dooms day to cloak now or what?
  199. [18:17] <jkhjkh> altough that shows that he has several wallets
  200. [18:18] <smallbit> ok wait. why do you think alty has multiple wallets?
  201. [18:18] <Nukleuz_> this next week will probably reveal
  202. [18:18] <Nukleuz_> whether or not cloak is going to survive
  203. [18:18] <smallbit> this is all just blah blah blah blah blah
  204. [18:19] <jkhjkh> it makes sense, look a the pattern
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