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- [17:31] <ludx> I was there too and you can see me joining the channel in the log
- [17:31] <xxxgoodgirls> im not saying the coin is screwed, im just saying the conversion was legit
- [17:32] <xxxgoodgirls> and the skype one is legit too
- [17:32] <ludx> also those skype names are all correct
- [17:33] <erter> what is alty wallet ?
- [17:33] <erter> nr 4 on richlist? for sure?
- [17:33] <erter> he didn't sell ?
- [17:35] <ludx> I dont know.. 3rd/4th.. maybe
- [17:35] <ludx> I know he's sold some to cover expenses, he said it himself yesterday
- [17:36] == cecar [ba57b4fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.186.87.180.253] has joined #cloakcoin
- [17:36] <cd567> @fullhdpixel is new?
- [17:37] <+`RainbowDash> fullhdpixel: is the designer
- [17:37] <@fullhdpixel> ^^
- [17:37] <+`RainbowDash> fullhdpixel: have you heard from alty
- [17:37] <+`RainbowDash> ?
- [17:37] <+`RainbowDash> :p
- [17:38] <@fullhdpixel> a couple days ago, before the weekend I think
- [17:38] <cd567> hi,fullhdpixel any update?
- [17:38] <erter> you knew about audit and fail?
- [17:39] <@fullhdpixel> No, I don't know about any of that
- [17:39] <@fullhdpixel> I actually came here to find alty
- [17:39] <Nukleuz_> alty was on IRC yesterday
- [17:40] <Nukleuz_> he's on vacation right now apparently
- [17:40] == peterEdi [81d7e6cc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.129.215.230.204] has joined #cloakcoin
- [17:41] <erter> not working with fix now?
- [17:42] <Nukleuz_> main dev is
- [17:42] <Nukleuz_> not alty
- [17:43] <Nukleuz_> main dev is working on a fix asap i heard, and was paid 10 btc 2 days ago to do it
- [17:43] <+`RainbowDash> oh
- [17:43] <+`RainbowDash> kel
- [17:43] <+`RainbowDash> kewl
- [17:43] <Nukleuz_> so that they can make a push towards one marke
- [17:43] <Nukleuz_> market*
- [17:44] <ggggggfgh> 10 BTC @+@
- [17:44] <ggggggfgh> MD?
- [17:44] == szuwi_ [5bdc270f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.220.39.15] has joined #cloakcoin
- [17:44] <Nukleuz_> to fix things soon i heard from gnome yesterday
- [17:44] <Nukleuz_> from his channel where him and alty were talking
- [17:45] <Seio_> just for the reminders... http://pastebin.com/Dnq3yAhf
- [17:46] <+`RainbowDash> so
- [17:46] == acejudas [~Ace@cpe-70-114-3-226.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #cloakcoin
- [17:50] <ggggggfgh> got another 100Cloak...
- [17:50] <Nukleuz_> the future seems so risky for cloak
- [17:50] == jackery [4a844b8a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.132.75.138] has joined #cloakcoin
- [17:50] <ggggggfgh> yes
- [17:51] <Nukleuz_> is that why you're buying lol
- [17:51] <smallbit> lol : <+MrRGnome> I honestly do not know
- [17:51] <erter> what to think about it
- [17:51] == cryptloc0 [80205a31@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.32.90.49] has joined #cloakcoin
- [17:51] <erter> i am afraid that alty will leave this coin
- [17:51] <Nukleuz_> the fact that when i asked alty
- [17:51] <smallbit> who cares
- [17:52] == Arathorn [d951c9be@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.217.81.201.190] has joined #cloakcoin
- [17:52] <smallbit> the coin is not one person
- [17:52] <Nukleuz_> if he sold any coins and he said yes he regained his initial investment
- [17:52] <smallbit> that would be a concern if it was
- [17:52] <Nukleuz_> without hesitation, it shows me he's pretty honest. but yeah that's something i worry about too erter
- [17:52] <smallbit> damnit am i the only one that watches the rich list
- [17:52] <Nukleuz_> but then again, he coudl have left aleady if he wanted to. I think he still holds a ton of cloak
- [17:52] <smallbit> he holds about 150k it looks like
- [17:52] <Nukleuz_> and is pushing for one market now asap, which is why he's sort of rushing a solution
- [17:52] <entso> good time to buy cloak now?
- [17:53] <Nukleuz_> which wallet is his smalbit
- [17:53] <Nukleuz_> small*
- [17:53] <erter> give me please his address on richlist
- [17:53] <erter> you know
- [17:53] <erter> they could sell off
- [17:53] <erter> then rebuy much lower
- [17:53] <erter> and withdraw part o coins to another wallet lol
- [17:53] <smallbit> DAMNIT i closed my snipping tool. I compare every morning by refreshing after i use my snipping tool.
- [17:53] <smallbit> there are only two wallets with 150k right now
- [17:53] <smallbit> its one of them
- [17:53] <smallbit> i forget which
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- [17:55] <Nukleuz_> we'll see which one sold a lot the past 2 weeks
- [17:55] <Nukleuz_> but 150k is very cnosiderable amount
- [17:55] <ggggggfgh> is 340K to 15K because of inside trading?
- [17:55] <Nukleuz_> and joe still holds a lot of cloak i believe
- [17:55] <Nukleuz_> no clue
- [17:56] <erter> i guess
- [17:56] <erter> that to 100k level
- [17:56] <Nukleuz_> and actually, it's normal for alty to make some money off his efforts thus far
- [17:56] <erter> was normal correction after bubble. huge dump but normal at chart
- [17:57] <erter> but at some range, dump was so weird on chart. alltime rsi dying, macd dying etc
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- [17:57] <erter> and dump dump dump
- [17:57] <Arathorn> Hello!
- [17:57] <erter> somepone knew that cloak is not trustless
- [17:57] <negamus_> If alty was leaving the coin, why pay the MD 10 btc 2 days ago to conitue coding.
- [17:57] <Nukleuz_> ^
- [17:57] <Arathorn> Ok, Is that chat protocol real or a fake?
- [17:57] <Nukleuz_> he's not leaving, and he's still very honest
- [17:57] == MrBoh [053f9304@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.63.147.4] has joined #cloakcoin
- [17:57] <Seio_> it's real
- [17:58] <Nukleuz_> didn't lie about even selling some coins to regain his initial investment
- [17:58] <ggggggfgh> @erter. yes, it's not normal . weird
- [17:58] <Nukleuz_> also you can tell by the back and forth between him and mrgnome that they'er trying to work on a solution
- [17:58] == ChrisPR4 [2ea5d0c4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.46.165.208.196] has joined #cloakcoin
- [17:58] <ChrisPR4> are you kidding me guys
- [17:58] <ChrisPR4> where is alty? where are the devs?
- [17:58] <Nukleuz_> kidding about?
- [17:59] == peterEdi [81d7e6cc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.129.215.230.204] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
- [17:59] <Nukleuz_> alty is on vacation, devs working on a solution for the failed audit
- [17:59] <Nukleuz_> well the main dev* i don't know about the other devs
- [17:59] <Nukleuz_> and actually, anyone spoke to joe lately?
- [17:59] <Arathorn> Ok, what is the main point of the protocol, that one of the team was thrown out because he thinks posa does not work, an devs dumped cloak?
- [17:59] <smallbit> do you think the 10btc came from alty?
- [18:00] <Nukleuz_> who else would it come from
- [18:00] <smallbit> anyone else on the dev team that isnt on vacay
- [18:00] <Nukleuz_> was joe in here yesterday?
- [18:00] <Nukleuz_> joe's the onemarket dev, we should ask him what's up
- [18:01] <noobsticks> I think I saw him logged in on sunday?
- [18:01] <negamus_> <+MrRGnome> He was jsut paid 10 bitcoin yesterday to get cracking on a quicker solution
- [18:01] <Nukleuz_> and i think he bought coins at 70k and been holding
- [18:02] == bruins [aa3f3313@gateway/web/freenode/ip.170.63.51.19] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
- [18:03] == luckydag [31d4e737@gateway/web/freenode/ip.49.212.231.55] has joined #cloakcoin
- [18:03] <Seio_> that part meens nothing to me. dev got paid 10btc? so what? will that magicaly produce perfectly working solution? if he's gonna rush things so just to have anything ready asap, beacuse he was paid, i'm worried it might be just another failed solution....
- [18:03] <Seio_> but that's my opinion...
- [18:04] <negamus_> That so who asked who paid.
- [18:04] <negamus_> *to
- [18:04] <iamfx> smallbit is there any proof that the richlist are the devs wallets?
- [18:04] == quobat [~quobat@mnch-4d042b89.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #cloakcoin
- [18:05] <smallbit> no I have just been watching it and the timing lines up
- [18:05] <iamfx> I think initial distribution is really a general problem
- [18:05] == jkhjkh [860267c2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.134.2.103.194] has joined #cloakcoin
- [18:05] == nner [6bb2c8de@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.107.178.200.222] has joined #cloakcoin
- [18:06] <iamfx> i mean look how dependent the community is on single individuals
- [18:06] <iamfx> also it is not healthy for the devs
- [18:06] <iamfx> alty is on vacation and people are stressing the fuck out of him
- [18:07] <jkhjkh> how can you go on vacation in times like these?
- [18:07] <Arathorn> yes
- [18:07] <iamfx> lol
- [18:07] == nner [6bb2c8de@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.107.178.200.222] has quit [Client Quit]
- [18:07] <Arathorn> you can´t do that
- [18:07] <ggggggfgh> because he is french ^^?
- [18:07] <iamfx> that s the point: he can
- [18:07] == nner [6bb2c8ca@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.107.178.200.202] has joined #cloakcoin
- [18:07] <erter> explorer down, why ?
- [18:07] <jkhjkh> also, blockexplorer seems to be down, who runs the blockexplorer?
- [18:07] <iamfx> where is the document that says that he cant
- [18:08] <erter> explorer down right after q of altys wallet at bcc lol https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=637704.msg8455293#msg8455293
- [18:08] <negamus_> Generally vacations are set ahead of time. It's not like today I'll say, damn let me take a 10 day vacation and hope work gives me pto.
- [18:08] <jkhjkh> yeah, thts whay i checked!
- [18:08] <CloakLotto> !tip ludx 0.99500000
- [18:08] <tipcloak> CloakLotto tipped ludx 0.995 CLOAK! "/msg tipcloak help" to claim.
- [18:08] <CloakLotto> JACKPOT WINNER: ludx won 0.99500000 CLOAK. Next drawing is in 4.00 hours. Use "!tip CloakLotto AMOUNT" to enter the lottery or increase your stake. Make sure both CloakLotto and tipcloak are in the channel first. House fee is 0.50% per game. Commands: @infor @whosin @lottotime @top
- [18:08] <iamfx> when I read the posts it sounds as if every single user has the right to ring alty s phone whenever they want or otherwise be pissed
- [18:09] <Arathorn> No
- [18:09] <iamfx> then you should have created a proper community structure in advance...then you could blame him
- [18:09] == nner [6bb2c8ca@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.107.178.200.202] has quit [Client Quit]
- [18:09] <Arathorn> But he could look into ne inet once a day an look
- [18:09] <iamfx> but fact is, that you didnt and so you should look at the situation
- [18:09] == nner [6bb2c8c3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.107.178.200.195] has joined #cloakcoin
- [18:10] == b00mit [~b00mit@50.23.113.194-static.reverse.softlayer.com] has joined #cloakcoin
- [18:10] <jkhjkh> whats happening with blockexplorer?
- [18:10] <smallbit> cloak isnt based on alty. period. alty however seems to be a lightning rod for some reason
- [18:10] <ggggggfgh> the most important is.... is this bug will be fixed ?
- [18:10] == noobsticks [~noobstick@wired014.math.utah.edu] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
- [18:10] <smallbit> block explorer working for me
- [18:11] <ggggggfgh> BlockExplorer working
- [18:11] <jkhjkh> ok, its working now, richlist still down tho
- [18:11] == nner [6bb2c8c3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.107.178.200.195] has quit [Client Quit]
- [18:11] == nner [6bb2c8c2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.107.178.200.194] has joined #cloakcoin
- [18:11] <erter> nr 4 with 40k today
- [18:11] <erter> this is alty wallet?
- [18:11] <jkhjkh> yeah
- [18:11] <erter> http://cloak.blockexplorer.cc/richlist/
- [18:12] == noobsticks [~noobstick@128-110-65-165.uconnect.utah.edu] has joined #cloakcoin
- [18:12] <jkhjkh> cant load richlist
- [18:12] <smallbit> meh
- [18:13] == wheat [~wheatclov@50-77-133-244-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds]
- [18:13] == Gfdcvnhh [47eac722@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.71.234.199.34] has joined #cloakcoin
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- [18:13] <Gfdcvnhh> Sooo
- [18:14] <b00mit> it loaded for me just now.
- [18:14] <smallbit> yeah its up
- [18:14] == nner [6bb2c8cb@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.107.178.200.203] has joined #cloakcoin
- [18:14] <jkhjkh> yeah, working again
- [18:14] <smallbit> hickup
- [18:14] <luckydag> so alty sold 40K cloaks today? am I right?
- [18:14] <Gfdcvnhh> It goes down all the time
- [18:15] <jkhjkh> seems like it
- [18:15] <jkhjkh> not a good sign if you ask me
- [18:15] <Scurvyhash> !tip CloakLotto 1
- [18:15] <tipcloak> Scurvyhash tipped CloakLotto 1 CLOAK! "/msg tipcloak help" to claim.
- [18:15] <CloakLotto> Scurvyhash is in for 1.00000000 with odds: 100.00%. JACKPOT *** 0.99500000 *** Next drawing is in 3.88 hours. Use "!tip CloakLotto AMOUNT" to enter the lottery or increase your stake. Make sure both CloakLotto and tipcloak are in the channel first. House fee is 0.50% per game. Commands: @infor @whosin @lottotime @top
- [18:15] <luckydag> block explorer and richlist working
- [18:16] <Nukleuz_> didn't #2 used to have 200 something thousand cloak
- [18:16] <Nukleuz_> i htink #2 was darkprotno
- [18:16] == nner [6bb2c8cb@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.107.178.200.203] has quit [Client Quit]
- [18:16] <Nukleuz_> poor guy, he's down a lot
- [18:16] <luckydag> but why alty sold so many coins, for what purpose ?
- [18:16] <Nukleuz_> well he said he recovered his initial investment
- [18:16] <Seio_> vacation expenses perhaps ;P
- [18:16] <jkhjkh> look at it, hes not selling, hes shifting funds across wallets
- [18:17] <luckydag> oh, and how did most dev vanish?
- [18:17] <jkhjkh> maybe for staking purposes
- [18:17] <luckydag> Dooms day to cloak now or what?
- [18:17] <jkhjkh> altough that shows that he has several wallets
- [18:18] <smallbit> ok wait. why do you think alty has multiple wallets?
- [18:18] <Nukleuz_> this next week will probably reveal
- [18:18] <Nukleuz_> whether or not cloak is going to survive
- [18:18] <smallbit> this is all just blah blah blah blah blah
- [18:19] <jkhjkh> it makes sense, look a the pattern
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