News Team Debate

Joe Copp might you guys look at this? Call_of_Duty_Wiki_talk:News_Team#Weekly_news_blog_issue
11:45 Damac1214 Joe: Weekly news blogs are almost meant to be the way they are. They aren't serious news we are bringing to the community, they are fun weekly round ups and the users writing them are allowed to put whatever twists they would like in them. While things such as the links to other news blogs and opinion blogs should probably have longer descriptions then just "Opinions" and "News" (i.e: "Call of Duty 11 announced" as opposed to "lol news") I feel the rest should be left up to the discretion of the user making the blog
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11:46 Joe Copp i did kinda hit the personalization thing, but i still think they should be more friendly to new users
especially when those are like the first blogs you see on the main page
11:46 KATANAGOD we don't even know how new users react to said blogs
I think its a going out on a limb to say they're unwelcoming
11:47 Damac1214 I don't really see how they aren't. A joke picture of the Walking Dead isn't likely to alienate users, neither is bad grammar.
And a couple in-jokes shouldn't be frowned upon. New Users either wont notice them, or will learn them soon enough
11:48 Joe Copp "soon enough" isn't relevant if the users don't stay, which stats tell us is most of the time the case
11:48 Damac1214 That's probably barely related to the Weekly Blogs though
11:48 KATANAGOD where are you getting your stats
11:48 Joe Copp but what i'm getting at is the amount of "in-jokes" is shaking the balance of relevant information
11:49 KATANAGOD we don't have stats that tell us after a new user looks at a news blog they leave the wiki
11:49 Joe Copp kat: it's been long known that most of the wiki's traffic comes from just viewers
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11:49 Joe Copp less than 50% of people who come here stay and edit. that's what i'm saying
11:49 Damac1214 Weekly Blogs aren't information sources though
11:50 Joe Copp they are in that they're portals to such information, though
11:50 Sgt D Grif Whoops serious convo, *scoots to the side*
11:50 KATANAGOD uh
what does that have to do with news blogs?
I don't see the connection
11:51 Joe Copp kat: if people look at news blogs that aren't here to stay, doesn't that mean they're less likely to understand why the blogs have so many inside jokes/purposeful grammatical errors?
11:52 Damac1214 I'd put money on the idea that less than 5% of people choose not to edit based on weekly news blogs
11:52 KATANAGOD what
11:52 Joe Copp and since you could probably guess that most of the people who see the blogs are new users, based on that stat i cited, that would mean that most people looking at the blogs don't understand the jokes.
11:52 KATANAGOD news blogs that aren't here to stay what
or don't care about the blogs and come to the wiki for the actual content we have
11:53 Joe Copp damac: i'm not suggesting news blogs are the sole reason people don't stay and edit
11:53 KATANAGOD I don't think news blogs are our main attraction either
11:53 Joe Copp i don't think so either
but the fact that their weekly, and on the main page, means they get at least a decent amount of traffic, no?
11:53 KATANAGOD Then I don't see the issue with a few silly jokes on a /community/ blog
11:54 Damac1214 Community Blogs tend to get less views as well
11:54 KATANAGOD yep
less comments too
11:54 Damac1214 Try having an imgur link on a Game News Blog and a Weekly News Blog to track views
9/10 times, the weekly news blog version of the pic will have less views
11:55 Joe Copp my argument could be summed up in to phrases "I do understand that putting some pizzaz into the weekly news blogs keeps them fun for the users that are here for all of them, and I'm not saying we can't do that", and "A little professionalism won't kill anybody."
11:55 Damac1214 * Damac1214 isn't aware if there is a way to view page counts on wiki
11:55 Joe Copp *two
do you guys at least see where i'm coming from?
11:56 Damac1214 I see where you're coming from, yes
I just don't agree with it
11:57 Joe Copp like i said, it's just that the amount of broken english and unrelated content has become ridiculous
11:58 Damac1214 >Unrelated Content
You mean the World News section? Which is literally meant to be unrelated and has been around for ages?
11:58 Joe Copp ^ weekly image
11:58 Damac1214 Or the .gif/pic of the weeks which are just meant for fun
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12:00 Damac1214 Weekly News blogs are just community updates, so they essentially follow the same golden rule as chat does. Yes, it is being hosted on Call of Duty Wiki and yes it does talk about Call of Duty to a degree, but no it does not have to be 100% about call of duty 100% of the time
12:00 Joe Copp and i never suggested it had to
again, "A little professionalism won't kill anybody"
12:01 Damac1214 "unrelated content has become ridiculous" Suggests exactly what I pointed out
Mabe not as extremely, but still
*Maybe
12:01 Joe Copp "unrelated" may not have been the best word, but i was referring to things like the weekly image, etc
12:02 Damac1214 Which is, once again, just there for fun
12:02 Joe Copp i think you agreed with me on the point of "opinion" being a little brief of a link summary, which on the most basic level is what i'm getting at
understand that it is the culmination of all of these little things that overall present the blog as a bit shifty
but really i must be getting to bed
12:03 KATANAGOD a gif I used on a news blog only got 1,002 views
12:03 Joe Copp please post on the talk page if you think of anything else
bye
12:04 Damac1214 But even on the blog you use as an example, Redskins current one, the only bit that is unprofessional is that bit
12:04 KATANAGOD 1,002 our of 2 million
12:04 Damac1214 Night
12:04 KATANAGOD out