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  1. Every time I join occupywallst, TrojanBlue targets me as a paid Israeli shill 'Hasbara'
  2. and now I have been banned for speaking my mind, again.
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  4. [16:04:48] <Prot> John___: of course you're not
  5. [16:04:50] <Prot> why would you?
  6. [16:04:53] <Prot> you don't like Obama
  7. [16:05:04] <Prot> but he did :)
  8. [16:05:05] <KiwlJazz> the auto industry bailout worked out perfect
  9. [16:05:08] <KiwlJazz> that was a good call
  10. [16:05:12] <Prot> damn straight
  11. [16:05:12] <KiwlJazz> the bank bailout
  12. [16:05:14] <KiwlJazz> meh
  13. [16:05:18] <John___> Well, as far as I can see...they aren't saved yet!
  14. [16:05:20] <Prot> TARP was necessary, and it sucked
  15. [16:05:23] <Prot> but it was the right move
  16. [16:05:27] <Prot> a very painful, bloated, wasteful move
  17. [16:05:28] <hopeforpeace_> looool
  18. [16:05:31] <hopeforpeace_> hi there gatekeeper
  19. [16:05:40] ASBO [[email protected]] has joined #occupywallst
  20. [16:05:40] <Prot> John___: thats not a good arguement to make
  21. [16:05:47] <KiwlJazz> you know
  22. [16:05:52] <TrojanBlue> barking up the wrong tree, prot? KiwlJazz is about the last person to come up with fringe stories
  23. [16:05:53] <dprisday> all those shovel ready projects just went poof adn OB laughed about it
  24. [16:05:53] <Prot> you don't want to give Obama credit because you yourself aren't sure if it worked
  25. [16:05:55] <KiwlJazz> maybe we shouldn't of done tarp at all
  26. [16:06:02] <KiwlJazz> and waited till there was a bank freeze
  27. [16:06:03] <TrojanBlue> lol
  28. [16:06:06] <KiwlJazz> errr a bank run
  29. [16:06:08] <John___> Okay, helping them was right, but it's acts like Chrylser's CEO that will actually put that money to good use.
  30. [16:06:09] <KiwlJazz> then acted
  31. [16:06:13] <KiwlJazz> they acted out of the fear
  32. [16:06:15] <whatgives> obama gets credit for speaking english in a very nice fashion. but what he's been saying adds up to about the same old same x some
  33. [16:06:21] <KiwlJazz> that there would be a run on the whole system
  34. [16:06:27] <Prot> TrojanBlue: anyone saying population control or 'coopting' us education are bill gate's priorities, I'm going to call them out vis a vis conspiracy
  35. [16:06:28] <TrojanBlue> helping them was as wrong as it could get at the time
  36. [16:06:30] <KiwlJazz> and to boost mere confidence
  37. [16:06:43] <KiwlJazz> they gave the banks money or made it appear like they were bailing out and recapitlizing the banks
  38. [16:06:52] <Prot> John___: no, thats not how it works
  39. [16:06:55] <TrojanBlue> see that desert over there, prot? a perfect place to stick your head in the sand
  40. [16:06:57] <John___> And put things in the right direction. You can give the auto industry money, but if they don't do the right thing, it won't do much.
  41. [16:06:57] <KiwlJazz> ...the apperance was just a panacea to shore up confidence in the system
  42. [16:06:59] <Prot> the acts of a CEO during profitible times are irrelevant
  43. [16:07:05] <KiwlJazz> but maybe we should of let it get worse
  44. [16:07:12] <Prot> John___: incorrect again. the govt regulated the actions of the industry
  45. [16:07:18] <KiwlJazz> and assesed to the real threats and failures before acting
  46. [16:07:19] <TrojanBlue> ive never seen a BANKER hasbarian.
  47. [16:07:21] <Prot> it broke union contracts, and went through bankrupcy
  48. [16:07:25] <Prot> THAT is what saved them
  49. [16:07:39] <GobShite> the market will have to find its true level one way or another , better it finds it now than futher down the road when it will hit harder than its going to otherwise
  50. [16:07:48] <TrojanBlue> well KiwlJazz, you must be on the right track to force the shills out of hiding
  51. [16:07:50] <John___> How did Chrylser have such a good year, yet Ford and GM didn't?
  52. [16:08:10] <Prot> John___: ford didn't take a bailout. GM had a good year, not as good as chrysler
  53. [16:08:13] <Prot> next question.
  54. [16:08:19] <KiwlJazz> what
  55. [16:08:24] <KiwlJazz> i thought GM was back to #1
  56. [16:08:28] <Prot> they are
  57. [16:08:33] <Mr-Snick> because Toyotas fell apart, GM was bailed out by Ford, and people went for the cheaper alternative hoping they owuldn't break down, too
  58. [16:08:33] <Prot> chrysler did better, relatively
  59. [16:08:36] Mr-Snick sarcasm
  60. [16:08:44] <KiwlJazz> Chrysler is private
  61. [16:08:49] <KiwlJazz> well it was
  62. [16:08:52] <Prot> it still is
  63. [16:08:55] <TrojanBlue> there's misinformation and there is disinformation. prot disinforms
  64. [16:08:55] watchedman [[email protected]] has left #occupywallst
  65. [16:09:02] <KiwlJazz> i dunno their situation is well their own mess ot deal with
  66. [16:09:03] <Prot> TrojanBlue: feel free to correct me
  67. [16:09:03] <KiwlJazz> lol
  68. [16:09:04] <TrojanBlue> aka lies
  69. [16:09:15] <Prot> TrojanBlue: you're spending a lot of time calling me a lier, and no time retorting
  70. [16:09:19] <GobShite> !google $250,000 electric car no one wants
  71. [16:09:20] <ASBO> Results for $250,000 electric car no one wants: 1. Each Chevy Volt Costs Taxpayers $250000: http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1749220/pg1 | 2. Bad math makes claim that each Volt cost taxpayers $250000 go viral: http://green.autoblog.com/2011/12/26/bad-math-makes-claim-that-each-volt-cost-taxpayers-250-000-go-v/ | 3. We're opposed to...
  72. [16:09:21] <ASBO> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/energyforamerica/posts/236053909818523
  73. [16:09:27] <John___> I guess my whole point to me coming in here was the acts of Chrysler's CEO is exactly what well street is shooting for. Should it should be some consolation....no?
  74. [16:09:30] <anarchabot> ASBO: [Incompatible Browser | Facebook]
  75. [16:09:35] <Prot> ASBO: I don't subscribe to conspiracy theory
  76. [16:09:37] <dprisday> Government Motors and OB caused closure of small deaerships which caused closure of other small businesses, tens of thousands of workers laid off, tax base reduction, and wiped out the investors inthe copany BUT the Big Unions, Chosen Elites and White House bureaucrats made money
  77. [16:09:44] <John___> I thought it should be noted.
  78. [16:09:49] <Prot> the volt costs under 40k and plenty of people want it. Its just not selling too well
  79. [16:09:56] <Prot> chevy sells *other cars too*
  80. [16:10:03] calango [~dnm@pdpc/supporter/active/calango] has joined #occupywallst
  81. [16:10:23] <Prot> dprisday: feel free to cite your sources
  82. [16:10:29] <John___> Prot, do you see my point?
  83. [16:10:30] <Prot> dprisday: I don't subscribe to conspiracy theory
  84. [16:10:30] <TrojanBlue> well prot you will have a hard time convincing this chat of your point of view. most ppl here dont even bother. whats the use of fighting? you will keep lying and then you will admit, in pm, that the other person was right
  85. [16:10:36] <Prot> John___: no.
  86. [16:10:44] <Prot> TrojanBlue: feel free to correct me
  87. [16:10:49] <TrojanBlue> you sure picked the wrong one to suck up to though
  88. [16:10:57] <KiwlJazz> Doris okay yes there was fall out i agree
  89. [16:11:02] <KiwlJazz> but it would of been worse if we let collapse
  90. [16:11:04] <Prot> TrojanBlue: feel free to speak your mind. no need to tell me what everyone else thinks for them
  91. [16:11:06] <KiwlJazz> much much much worse
  92. [16:11:17] <dprisday> Volt is selling like those Hugo's - and those who work and pay taxes are hit for the largesse of the 1% White HOuse and Unions
  93. [16:11:20] <Prot> and yeah, it sounds like KiwlJazz agrees with me on this one
  94. [16:11:26] <KiwlJazz> and its probally better they don't franchise out dealershis anymore
  95. [16:11:26] <Prot> and we never agree :)
  96. [16:11:36] <John___> The whole point of Occupy WallStreet is the distribution of wealth and earnings in this country correct Prot?
  97. [16:11:43] <Prot> John___: wrong
  98. [16:11:53] <KiwlJazz> if they would of failed
  99. [16:11:55] <John___> Please clarify then
  100. [16:11:59] <KiwlJazz> they would of taken down Ford
  101. [16:12:07] <Prot> John___: clarify the whole point of ows?
  102. [16:12:23] <Prot> http://occupywallst.org/about/
  103. [16:12:38] <KiwlJazz> Firestone, glass manufactures
  104. [16:12:39] <KiwlJazz> who knows
  105. [16:12:42] <John___> Please, if someone was to ask you...I've never heard of OWS, please give me a quick synopsis?...what would you say?
  106. [16:12:52] <TrojanBlue> "feel free to speak your mind" - why, THANK YOU!
  107. [16:12:52] <Prot> well, the real question is, what would YOU say
  108. [16:12:58] <Prot> apparently you would say something about distribution of wealth
  109. [16:12:59] <KiwlJazz> the bailout was bigger than the three auto companies themselves
  110. [16:13:03] <KiwlJazz> it was about the whole supply chain
  111. [16:13:08] <Prot> yup
  112. [16:13:11] <John___> I'm asking you?
  113. [16:13:18] <Prot> i would link them to the site
  114. [16:13:19] <John___> I'm sorry, that was a statement.
  115. [16:13:20] <TrojanBlue> the bailout was a perfect way to rip off the population
  116. [16:13:22] <Prot> or spend 20 minutes talking about it
  117. [16:13:26] <Prot> not 'one sentence'
  118. [16:13:49] <Prot> you might as well ask me to sum up all theories of physics in one sentence
  119. [16:13:59] <dprisday> And as teh tax money was given Gov Motors entered into agreements in China to build plants - and China wants a line into the US Market - guess where that will be ventured?
  120. [16:14:10] <Prot> dprisday: I do not subscribe to conspiracy
  121. [16:14:19] <dprisday> Or truth
  122. [16:14:25] <Prot> feel free to cite your sources
  123. [16:14:26] <TrojanBlue> lol
  124. [16:14:46] <JuanaRevolution> John___ Read the link at the top of your screen.
  125. [16:14:47] <TrojanBlue> http://www.happierabroad.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=37422&sid=390282119b9e75ded73f8a36a0fe00a7
  126. [16:14:52] <anarchabot> TrojanBlue: [Disinformation Tactics of shills & online trolls/zombies : Happier Abroad]
  127. [16:15:13] <dprisday> Hi Trojan - hope your week has been good
  128. [16:15:19] <TrojanBlue> trick: demand sources. then, discrad all sources as *not credible*
  129. [16:15:30] <Prot> TrojanBlue: if you're so sure everyone in here believes you that I am a jewish paid shill, maybe you should have them tell me, rather than speak for them 10 times per minute@h@
  130. [16:15:39] <GobShite> classic troll me thinks
  131. [16:15:44] <TrojanBlue> who said anything about jewish??
  132. [16:15:47] <Prot> you
  133. [16:15:52] <TrojanBlue> are you baiting me prot?
  134. [16:16:00] TrojanBlue [[email protected]] has set mode +b *!*@ip68-104-219-128.ph.ph.cox.net
  135. [16:16:01] anarchabot [[email protected]] has set mode -b *!*[email protected].*
  136. [16:16:02] <Prot> I don't think so
  137. [16:16:02] Cannot send to channel
  138. [16:16:02] <John___> My bad, apparently I misunderstood what you were all about. It sounds to me like the organization has evolved into something other than what it's original purpose was meant for.
  139. [16:16:09] You have been kicked from #occupywallst by TrojanBlue [[email protected]]: dont lie
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