Stranger: okay let's talk about computers

Stranger: i want to build a computer by myself

You: I have never built a computer specifically for my needs. I usually took parts that were working, and bashed them together :)

Stranger: i want to built an allround computer

Stranger: with hybrid graphic card

You: Ew, those are largely non-practical.

Stranger: one graphic card on the mainboard and one normal graphic card

Stranger: if the computer needs less graphic power than it uses only the on board graphics

Stranger: and if it needs more graphic power than it use the normal graphic card

You: So, you want to build a notebook?

Stranger: and if it needs alot power than it use both graphic cards

Stranger: not a notebook

Stranger: a multimedia computer

Stranger: with a 7.1 sound card

You: I'll tell you it straight - it is more trouble than it is worth.

Stranger: if it exists a 11.2 sound card i would prefer that

Stranger: why trouble?

Stranger: i am not sure which cpu i should use

You: The Nvidia's Optimus technology is suited for notebooks.

You: And it is made by notebook manufacturers.

You: And that is the main graphics solution here.

Stranger: it exist other hybrid graphics too and not only optimus

You: Yeah, right... Still, it is not really needed in most cases.

Stranger: and where is the problem if the hybrid technology was first for notebooks?

Stranger: now it exist it for normal computers too

You: 1. It is not called hybrid! Hybrid is CPU/GPU, like Intel's Sandy Bridge.

Stranger: Hybrid SLI ........ baby :P

Stranger: it IS called hybrid

Stranger: GeForce GTS 360M
GeForce GTS 350M
GeForce GT 335M
GeForce GT 330M
GeForce GT 325M
GeForce 310M
GeForce 305M
GeForce GTX 285M
GeForce GTX 280M
GeForce GTX 260M
GeForce GTS 260M
GeForce GTS 250M
GeForce GT 240M
GeForce GT 230M
GeForce G210M
GeForce GTS 160M
GeForce GTS 150M
GeForce GT 130M
GeForce G 110M
GeForce G 105M
GeForce 9800M GTX
GeForce 9800M GT
GeForce 9800M GTS
GeForce 9700M GTS
GeForce 9700M GT
GeForce 9650M GT
GeForce 9650M GS
GeForce 9600M GT
GeForce 9600M GS
GeForce 9500M G
GeForce 9300M GS
GeForce 9200M GS


those graphic cards can be used with Nvidia Hybrid SLI

Stranger: onboard plus one of those

You: 2. do you really care for electricity that much? Outside of notebook spectre, it loosely makes sense.

Stranger: i care more for silence ! (and for electricity too)

Stranger: if my computer works 24 hours a day, 365 days a year than i care for electricity

Stranger: most of the time i use graphics with less power

You: Alright, I don't think this discussion is going anywhere.
Most cards use power control. If you do not have it, please throw your RIVA TNT away.

Stranger: so i don't want a big graphic card working all the time

Stranger: i want just to build an allround multimedia computer

Stranger: with less electricity consumption and lots of power

Stranger: i want to decode video and music files too

Stranger: so i need power

Stranger: and i want to watch full hd movies with 7.2 surround sound

You: Our philosophies have a sharp clash here: I use a good one, and a quiet one.

You: (Also, Nvidia's site says explicitly about notebooks, but nothing about desktop application)

Stranger: it exists desktop mainboards based on notebook mainboards

Stranger: extra small mainboards

You: With all the cooling and bad extension problems of notebooks, as I get it.

You: Not a good desktop solution.

Stranger: notebooks got cooling problems because there is less air

Stranger: it is a ´´desktop mainboard based on a notebook mainboard``

Stranger: it is not a notebook mainboard

Stranger: do you understand?

Stranger: you can put it in a normal tower if you want

Stranger: Asus makes good one

Stranger: and Zotac too

You: Still, you gotta admit, they make all those desktop boards for a reason.

Stranger: the form is called Mini-ITX

Stranger: which reason?

You: It is easier to hook everything into a bigger space.

Stranger: Mini-ITX is a desktop boards (a smaller desktop board)

You: (I meant usual atx/miniatx)

Stranger: Mini-ITX is just a smaller mainboard with less consumption and the same power

Stranger: so i think it is good

Stranger: where are the contras?

Stranger: i see only pros

You: Come again when you try and see.

Stranger: i would use an external power unit

Stranger: and make the computer small

You: I have a bigtower for things needing power. I have a notebook for chatting and other stuff. I would not recommend blending them together.

Stranger: cool would be with in integrated hifi amplifier

Stranger: why not an allround computer?

You: (Also, if you make the computer small, you will have no space to put the video card into)

Stranger: of course i got space

Stranger: i would lay it down

You: So, custom-chassis?

Stranger: lay the graphic card down with an adapter

Stranger: yes of course a custom chassis

You: Also, one of my principles: KISS, also known as Keep It Simple Stupid.

You: Which your config does not fit into at all :)

Stranger: what does not fit?

You: Making your own chassis, fiddling with needed motherboard and graphic card configurations, etc.

Stranger: i was machinery and equipment chief, it would be easy to make a chassis by myself

Stranger: i made blackboxes for airplanes

Stranger: and car parts

Stranger: and computer parts

Stranger: covers for cellphones

Stranger: with cnc machines

Stranger: machine parts i made too

You: Also, all the graphic cards listed are notebook based. Notice that "M"? Right.
Anyways, it is more than 4 AM, so meet you in the frontlines of flamewar again.

You: I would really recommend you just having two separate cards and switching in BIOS.

Stranger: i want 2 cards working by themself together or alone

Stranger: and not switching

You: Well, look at the AMD line of cards then!

You: They allow different cards to work together just fine.

Stranger: amd got something hybrid like too

You: Maybe a cheap series+a high end would work just fine.
And, you need to have a program switching crossfire off/on in needed situations.

Stranger: ´´amd hybrid crossfire``

Stranger: why are you against hybrid stuff?

Stranger: i think in a few years almost every computer will use that

Stranger: and every notebook

You: KISS principle, still.

Stranger: i don't think so

Stranger: look at a Mercedes-Benz (i got one)

You: That is my principle, not of the notebook makers.

Stranger: they worked 20 years ago good too

Stranger: but they still make it better

You: That includes sticking a motorcycle inside the car for situations when you need to save petrol?

Stranger: 100 years ago a Mercedes-Benz worked good too and they still make it better

Stranger: That includes sticking a motorcycle inside the car for situations when you need to save petrol? ????

Stranger: what do you mean?

You: Hybrid tech, duh.

Stranger: Mercedes-Benz got some hybrid cars

Stranger: with electro- and petrol- engine

You: They are not hybrid in that sense of word, still.

Stranger: of course they are hybrid

Stranger: they use the electro engine to save petrol

Stranger: brb

Stranger: i am back

You: Eh, whatever. I really wanna sleep, as it is almost hitting dawn.

You: Sorry for not continuing.

Stranger: i need a computer for video and audio decoding, video and music processing, tv receiver, .......... and and and work, games ...

Stranger: ok

Stranger: it was nice to chat with you

You: If so, my guess you will use all the resources all the time.

Stranger: i want to use a computer + beamer for ALL

Stranger: like ALL in 1

Stranger: not all the time

Stranger: if i just surf in the internet than i don't use all resources

Stranger: or if i use word only

Stranger: or if i just watch tv through the internet in HD than i don't use all resources

Stranger: it is variable

You: I think we will see if that actually works out in 5 years, or if they just learn to control the consumption of one video card, because man-that is a kludge.

Stranger: i think in a few years lots of people will use media stations for tv and stuff based on netbook with hybrid to save electricity

You: Alright, going to sleep. Do you have an IM (Skype/Jabber/FB-chat)?

Stranger: i don't have sorry

Stranger: i don't use any social network programs

Stranger: or websites

You: erm, since when is jabber social network?

Stranger: i even don't know what Jabber or FB-chat is

Stranger: i don't use any messenger

You: Ok, so you have email, I suppose?

Stranger: yes