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- Jul 18 02:21:41 <Kamchastkia> While we're all focused on MH17, they're exploiting it to attack Palestine and Gaza.
- Jul 18 02:22:04 <Legendardisch> I dont care honestly
- Jul 18 02:22:29 <Legendardisch> Tjat conflict lasts longer than any other conflict
- Jul 18 02:23:12 <Legendardisch> What happend with MH17 is to the netherlands bigger
- Jul 18 02:23:21 <Kamchastkia> I don't know.....:/
- Jul 18 02:23:33 <Kamchastkia> It depends how you view the situation.
- Jul 18 02:23:56 <Legendardisch> Israel van wipe gaza really
- Jul 18 02:24:07 <Kamchastkia> What?
- Jul 18 02:24:22 <Legendardisch> If you see those reactions of those muslims.
- Jul 18 02:24:40 <Legendardisch> Then thats what you think
- Jul 18 02:24:41 <Kamchastkia> What do you mean.
- Jul 18 02:24:54 <Kamchastkia> Israel has mobilized 68,000 troops to invade Gaza.
- Jul 18 02:25:02 <Kamchastkia> It's not a minor incident.
- Jul 18 02:25:04 <Legendardisch> So
- Jul 18 02:25:07 <Kamchastkia> So
- Jul 18 02:25:07 <Legendardisch> What
- Jul 18 02:25:13 <Kamchastkia> This is a full-scale war.
- Jul 18 02:25:36 <Legendardisch> The netherlands has no money to go there
- Jul 18 02:25:42 <Kamchastkia> Okay....
- Jul 18 02:25:47 <Legendardisch> And we support israel
- Jul 18 02:26:31 <Kamchastkia> Okay.....
- Jul 18 02:26:31 <Legendardisch> And for now, MH17 stands so much closer to us than gaza. Thats logical isnt it.
- Jul 18 02:26:53 <Kamchastkia> I don't think MH17 poses as big of a threat to the world as the invasion of Gaza does.
- Jul 18 02:27:20 <Kamchastkia> It was an accidental shooting of what was thought to be a military aircraft.
- Jul 18 02:27:26 <Kamchastkia> It's happened for.
- Jul 18 02:27:29 <Kamchastkia> before*
- Jul 18 02:27:33 <Kamchastkia> It will continue to happen.
- Jul 18 02:27:41 <Legendardisch> So we shouldnt care about the loss of those people
- Jul 18 02:27:46 <Kamchastkia> War takes cassualties of people who had nothing to do with it.
- Jul 18 02:27:51 <Kamchastkia> It shouldn't be unexpected Legend.
- Jul 18 02:27:56 <Kamchastkia> That's what I'm saying.
- Jul 18 02:28:08 <Legendardisch> Whatever
- Jul 18 02:28:12 <Kamchastkia> The US, the Ukraine, Russia, they have all accidentally shot down civilian jetliners before.
- Jul 18 02:28:40 <Legendardisch> What is happening in gaza has happend before too
- Jul 18 02:28:50 <Kamchastkia> Yes
- Jul 18 02:29:02 <Kamchastkia> but the shooting down of civilian jetliners on accident doesn't pose a threat to regional peace.
- Jul 18 02:30:13 <Legendardisch> For now MH17 is the priority of the netherlands due to loss of 154 people. Sure it might not cause a war. But really what must the netherlands do in israel. Precisely nothing.
- Jul 18 02:30:23 * Reno_Lam (~RenoLam@120.88.228.29) has joined
- Jul 18 02:30:40 <Kamchastkia> Sever relations with Israel?
- Jul 18 02:30:49 <Kamchastkia> More than idly standing by.
- Jul 18 02:31:03 <Kamchastkia> The Netherlands has very little control over anyting with MH17.
- Jul 18 02:31:05 <Legendardisch> Ask that to the usa
- Jul 18 02:31:15 <Legendardisch> Kam f
- Jul 18 02:31:20 <Kamchastkia> And the Netherlands can barely do anythin.
- Jul 18 02:31:26 <Legendardisch> You are disrespectful
- Jul 18 02:31:32 <Kamchastkia> The crash site is under control of the Donetsk PR
- Jul 18 02:31:39 <Kamchastkia> I'm being factual Legendardisch.
- Jul 18 02:31:44 <Legendardisch> And
- Jul 18 02:32:00 <Kamchastkia> The Netherlands can't change anything, the scene is under control of forces not friendly to Legendardisch.
- Jul 18 02:32:02 <Kamchastkia> i mean
- Jul 18 02:32:03 <Kamchastkia> Netherlands
- Jul 18 02:32:04 <Kamchastkia> >.<
- Jul 18 02:32:14 <Legendardisch> So
- Jul 18 02:32:26 <Legendardisch> That means we should sit down
- Jul 18 02:32:30 <Legendardisch> Fuck you
- Jul 18 02:32:32 <Kamchastkia> There's nothing else you can do.
- Jul 18 02:32:38 <Kamchastkia> Unless you want to invade the Ukraine and Russia.
- Jul 18 02:32:59 <Legendardisch> Ukraine is cooperating with us
- Jul 18 02:33:07 <Kamchastkia> The Ukraine has no authority over the scene.
- Jul 18 02:33:17 <Legendardisch> Really gaza is not our #1 priority
- Jul 18 02:33:18 <Kamchastkia> The scene is under control of the Donetsk PR separatists.
- Jul 18 02:33:27 <Legendardisch> Kam
- Jul 18 02:33:44 <Kamchastkia> i don't see what you expect your government to do.
- Jul 18 02:33:52 <Kamchastkia> When it can do nothing.
- Jul 18 02:33:52 <Legendardisch> They have allowed ukrainian officials on the site
- Jul 18 02:34:05 <Legendardisch> Stop acting dumb
- Jul 18 02:34:11 <Kamchastkia> The black boxes have been seized and are in moscow right now.
- Jul 18 02:34:25 <Legendardisch> They are not
- Jul 18 02:34:28 <Kamchastkia> They are.
- Jul 18 02:34:45 <Legendardisch> Thats what is being told and not proven
- Jul 18 02:35:29 <Kamchastkia> There's no reason not to believe that is the case right now.
- Jul 18 02:35:45 <Kamchastkia> The Donetsk Militia was on scene first and most likely seized that stuff.
- Jul 18 02:36:20 <Legendardisch> Kam lets stop okay. You dont understand the impact this has on the netherlands
- Jul 18 02:36:33 <Legendardisch> That it is larger to us than gaza
- Jul 18 02:39:14 <Reno_Lam> As it should be
- Jul 18 02:41:14 <Legendardisch> And the netherlands will do anything to acces the site
- Jul 18 02:42:16 <Legendardisch> And the behaviour of the seperatists just says enough, they shot it down
- Jul 18 02:42:36 <Reno_Lam> Also it happen to carry dozens of HIV experts
- Jul 18 02:42:54 <Legendardisch> ?
- Jul 18 02:43:03 <Reno_Lam> That plane
- Jul 18 02:43:18 <Legendardisch> Okay
- Jul 18 02:43:26 <Reno_Lam> Apparently 100+ researchers were on it en route to International AIDS consortium in Australia
- Jul 18 02:45:29 <Kamchastkia> Legendardisch, do you hate the United States
- Jul 18 02:45:31 <Kamchastkia> or the Ukraine?
- Jul 18 02:50:30 <Kamchastkia> Because they both did exactly what the separatists supposedly did (with no evidence).
- Jul 18 02:50:35 <Kamchastkia> oh well
- Jul 18 02:50:39 <Kamchastkia> I'm off to bed.
- Jul 18 02:50:45 <Kamchastkia> Good night..
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- Jul 18 15:00:34 <Legendardisch> All persons of MH17 are identified. : 192 were dutch
- Jul 18 15:00:52 <Legendardisch> :(
- Jul 18 15:01:12 <Sem> :c
- Jul 18 15:01:37 <Legendardisch> Putin will pay
- Jul 18 15:02:00 <Loupia> i hope so
- Jul 18 15:02:11 <Loupia> i hope russia gets what's coming to it
- Jul 18 15:02:20 <Loupia> the whole world is a mess
- Jul 18 15:03:03 * Sav_Fallout3 is now known as Sav_
- Jul 18 15:03:05 <Sav_> Ah
- Jul 18 15:03:09 <Sav_> I finished Fallout 3
- Jul 18 15:03:24 <Loupia> Trying to register a new channel
- Jul 18 15:03:37 <Loupia> but if you close the window it unregisters
- Jul 18 15:03:43 <Sem> wb Sav!
- Jul 18 15:03:44 <Sem> c:
- Jul 18 15:03:52 <Sav_> Hi Sem
- Jul 18 15:03:54 <Sav_> :D
- Jul 18 15:04:21 <Kamchastkia> What did Russia do Loupia?
- Jul 18 15:04:23 <Kamchastkia> >.<
- Jul 18 15:04:34 <Kamchastkia> All these people calling for WWIII over fucking black boxes that won't prove jack shit.
- Jul 18 15:05:02 <Legendardisch> Kam
- Jul 18 15:05:12 <Legendardisch> Russia trained and supplied them
- Jul 18 15:05:41 <Kamchastkia> No evidence.
- Jul 18 15:05:47 <Loupia> There is evidence
- Jul 18 15:05:55 <Kamchastkia> The Ukrainians had the same exact equipment in the area.
- Jul 18 15:06:04 <Loupia> They traced phone calls
- Jul 18 15:06:08 <Kamchastkia> "traced phone calls"
- Jul 18 15:06:14 <Kamchastkia> Best evidence in the world.
- Jul 18 15:06:20 <Loupia> It's evidence
- Jul 18 15:06:21 <Sav_> Legen, you support Kiev?
- Jul 18 15:06:25 <Kamchastkia> WWIII initiated.
- Jul 18 15:06:26 <Legendardisch> Kam shame yojrself
- Jul 18 15:06:36 <Loupia> I'm not calling for WWIII
- Jul 18 15:06:37 <Legendardisch> I support kiev now
- Jul 18 15:06:41 <Kamchastkia> Fuck Kiev
- Jul 18 15:06:45 <Kamchastkia> the fucking fascists shot down that plane.
- Jul 18 15:06:46 <Legendardisch> See what this did to ths
- Jul 18 15:06:52 <Loupia> No evidence
- Jul 18 15:06:57 <Kamchastkia> Better evidence than you have.
- Jul 18 15:07:02 <Loupia> You don't have any!
- Jul 18 15:07:04 <Legendardisch> See what this did to the people of kiev
- Jul 18 15:07:10 <Loupia> You jsut said it was the Ukraine
- Jul 18 15:07:11 <Kamchastkia> The Ukrainians know how to operate this equipment
- Jul 18 15:07:16 <Loupia> So do the Russians
- Jul 18 15:07:24 <Kamchastkia> THE RUSSIANS DID NOT SHOOT DOWN THIS PLANE
- Jul 18 15:07:26 <Legendardisch> See the flower sea infront of the dutch embassy
- Jul 18 15:07:26 <Lanos> the Russian people are never at fault
- Jul 18 15:07:34 <Kamchastkia> RUSSIA HAS NO REASON
- Jul 18 15:07:35 <Legendardisch> Kam you are retarded sorry
- Jul 18 15:07:36 <Loupia> 1. Yes they did. 2. Calm your tits
- Jul 18 15:07:43 <Kamchastkia> No you're being fucking stupid.
- Jul 18 15:07:48 <Loupia> Russia has no reason but when does that stop people
- Jul 18 15:07:55 * Lanos has kicked Legendardisch from #Elysium (no.)
- Jul 18 15:07:58 <Kamchastkia> THe Ukrainian government has a reason.
- Jul 18 15:08:04 <Loupia> What reason?
- Jul 18 15:08:04 * You have been kicked from #Elysium by Lanos (you too.)
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- Jul 18 15:08:08 * Now talking on #Elysium
- Jul 18 15:08:08 * Topic for #Elysium is: Welcome to Elysium! | Rules: http://pastebin.com/V0jGZDra | Forum: http://bit.ly/RRB4Ls | Map: http://bit.ly/1oXvRN2 | TG Spartianus for Map Requests | RIP MH12 victims
- Jul 18 15:08:08 * Topic for #Elysium set by Lanos!~Lanos@tx-76-0-101-243.dhcp.embarqhsd.net (Thu Jul 17 12:54:07 2014)
- Jul 18 15:08:08 * feepbot welcomes Kamchastkia (3 / 4): DIRTY COMMIE ALERT
- Jul 18 15:08:14 <Lanos> really don't bait each other
- Jul 18 15:08:16 <Kamchastkia> They were enforcing a restricted airspace zone over Donetsk.
- Jul 18 15:08:22 * Legendardisch (~Legendard@86.89.152.14) has joined
- Jul 18 15:08:23 * feepbot welcomes Legendardisch (1 / 3): Elysium's resident goldenhearted bitchy Nederlander
- Jul 18 15:08:26 <Loupia> so?
- Jul 18 15:08:30 <Lanos> don't bait each other, k?
- Jul 18 15:08:31 <Legendardisch> ?lanos why
- Jul 18 15:08:42 <Legendardisch> Ffs. Let us talk
- Jul 18 15:08:43 <Lanos> [15:07] Legendardisch Kam you are retarded sorry
- Jul 18 15:08:49 <Kamchastkia> So? This plane might have been mistaken for a plane flying inside ther estricted airspace
- Jul 18 15:08:53 <Legendardisch> Lanos stay out
- Jul 18 15:08:56 <Kamchastkia> which was only up to 4,000 feet iirc.
- Jul 18 15:09:06 <Legendardisch> He has defended those rebels earlier
- Jul 18 15:09:12 <Lanos> it was at 30,000 feet when it was downed
- Jul 18 15:09:14 <Legendardisch> He thinks its normal
- Jul 18 15:09:23 <Kamchastkia> Lanos, it's not the first time someone made that Mistake
- Jul 18 15:09:29 <Lanos> KAL 007
- Jul 18 15:09:29 <Loupia> Ukraine would be stupid to shoot down a plane coming from the EU
- Jul 18 15:09:34 <Kamchastkia> The Ukrainian Government, Russia, and the US have all done it before.
- Jul 18 15:09:35 <Legendardisch> Kam fuck you
- Jul 18 15:09:37 <Lanos> the Iranian flight in 87
- Jul 18 15:09:45 <Lanos> LEGEND DON'T FLAME.
- Jul 18 15:09:46 <Kamchastkia> It wouldn't be the first time.
- Jul 18 15:09:50 <Legendardisch> Putin is a murderer
- Jul 18 15:10:06 <Legendardisch> Lanos shut the fuck up please let me talk
- Jul 18 15:10:24 <Legendardisch> Putin is a murderer
- Jul 18 15:10:24 <Loupia> Legen, you shut up. you're not even arguing, you're attacking Kammy
- Jul 18 15:10:34 <Sav_> I don't really understand why support Kiev?
- Jul 18 15:10:37 <Kamchastkia> Considering rebels from eastern ukraine most likely aren't trained on how to properly operate such complex equipment it is more likely that a mistake was made on the part of the Ukrainians.
- Jul 18 15:10:40 <Legendardisch> And aslong as kammy supports thats
- Jul 18 15:10:44 <Sav_> They are western puppets
- Jul 18 15:10:45 <Legendardisch> He is not good
- Jul 18 15:10:51 <Loupia> Everyone's a puppet sav
- Jul 18 15:10:57 <Legendardisch> Kam
- Jul 18 15:10:58 <Kamchastkia> Legend, use basic logic.
- Jul 18 15:10:58 <Sav_> Putin?
- Jul 18 15:11:03 <Lanos> the rebels could have gotten training as well as equipment too
- Jul 18 15:11:07 <Legendardisch> Russja trained them and supplied them
- Jul 18 15:11:16 <Lanos> not like they posted a vid of the rebels having the SA-11
- Jul 18 15:11:18 <Legendardisch> Dont be fucking stupid
- Jul 18 15:11:19 <Sav_> Not all of them
- Jul 18 15:11:20 <Kamchastkia> No evidence that the Russians trained them on how touse the Buk system.
- Jul 18 15:11:25 <Ghant> Legendardisch, calm down.
- Jul 18 15:11:29 <Loupia> No evidence they didn't
- Jul 18 15:11:30 <Kamchastkia> Lanos, just having the equipment doesn't mean they knew how to use it.
- Jul 18 15:11:31 <Sav_> Some of the rebels didn't get training
- Jul 18 15:11:33 <Legendardisch> Only the rebels shoot planes down
- Jul 18 15:11:34 <Lanos> let's ask the Russians for evidence
- Jul 18 15:11:39 <Lanos> see if they can give it
- Jul 18 15:11:40 <Lanos> no?
- Jul 18 15:11:45 <Lanos> of course, we have no evidence
- Jul 18 15:11:53 <Kamchastkia> Jesus fucking christ.
- Jul 18 15:11:54 <Sav_> But of course, would you support Netherlands arming the Flanders independence movement?
- Jul 18 15:11:58 <Kamchastkia> We don't even know if the plane was shot down.
- Jul 18 15:12:09 <Lanos> it was according to a lot of people
- Jul 18 15:12:11 <Loupia> Uhhh there's pictures
- Jul 18 15:12:12 <Kamchastkia> This is all speculation.
- Jul 18 15:12:17 <Kamchastkia> It crashed Loupia
- Jul 18 15:12:18 <Sav_> [22:11] <Legendardisch> Only the rebels shoot planes down
- Jul 18 15:12:21 <Ghant> Kam you are retarded sorry <--- No flaming in the channel please, Legendardisch
- Jul 18 15:12:21 <Sav_> They don't
- Jul 18 15:12:23 <Kamchastkia> but it being shot down there's no proof for that right now.
- Jul 18 15:12:26 <Lanos> Sav_
- Jul 18 15:12:31 <Sav_> They don't have the right weaponry
- Jul 18 15:12:32 <Legendardisch> Sav
- Jul 18 15:12:37 <Sav_> Yes?
- Jul 18 15:12:42 <Lanos> the rebels have SAMs and have shot down airplanes of Ukrainian origin
- Jul 18 15:12:46 <Legendardisch> Only the rebels have shot planes down
- Jul 18 15:12:49 <Lanos> this is not disputed
- Jul 18 15:12:49 <Legendardisch> Ffs
- Jul 18 15:12:53 <Kamchastkia> THe planes they shot down earlier were flying much lower
- Jul 18 15:12:58 <Kamchastkia> within the range of MANPADs
- Jul 18 15:13:05 <Loupia> Tjhey're steppign their game up
- Jul 18 15:13:05 <Lanos> and they have SA-11
- Jul 18 15:13:10 <Loupia> *They're stepping
- Jul 18 15:13:13 <Kamchastkia> Having equipment =/= how to use it.
- Jul 18 15:13:15 <Ghant> Only rebels shot planes down? Were you there? Did you see that?
- Jul 18 15:13:18 <Sav_> They don't have SAM's
- Jul 18 15:13:31 <Legendardisch> Ghant
- Jul 18 15:13:31 <Lanos> xD
- Jul 18 15:13:38 <Lanos> they could have had training too
- Jul 18 15:13:40 <Legendardisch> The rebels have no planes
- Jul 18 15:13:42 <Lanos> or trainers helping
- Jul 18 15:13:45 <Kamchastkia> Of course Lanos
- Jul 18 15:13:49 <Kamchastkia> let's assume that without any proof.
- Jul 18 15:13:51 <Legendardisch> Ukraine has no reason to use its sams
- Jul 18 15:13:56 <Loupia> Do any of you actually formulate arguments NOT based out of blind faith for one side or the other?
- Jul 18 15:13:57 <Kamchastkia> Yes ti does Legendardisch
- Jul 18 15:14:00 <Sav_> I mean, they don't have the ones that can reach 10.000m
- Jul 18 15:14:04 <Kamchastkia> it was enforcing a restricted airzone.
- Jul 18 15:14:06 <Legendardisch> The rebels got supplied and trained by russia
- Jul 18 15:14:11 <Kamchastkia> Hell, they've shot down planes on accident for no reason before.
- Jul 18 15:14:12 <Legendardisch> They shot it down
- Jul 18 15:14:16 <Loupia> I guess not.
- Jul 18 15:14:17 <Kamchastkia> LEGEND
- Jul 18 15:14:20 <Kamchastkia> THERE IS NO EVIDENCE FOR THAT
- Jul 18 15:14:21 <Kamchastkia> .-.
- Jul 18 15:14:33 <Ghant> Correct. Where is the evidence?
- Jul 18 15:14:42 <Lanos> there is no evidence because the scene is heavily contaminated
- Jul 18 15:14:46 <Sem> hi Ghant
- Jul 18 15:14:53 <Lanos> the rebels have prevented investigators from reaching the scene
- Jul 18 15:14:55 <Loupia> TYPING IN CAPS DOESNT MEAN YOU ARE AUTOMATICALLY RIGHT
- Jul 18 15:14:57 <Legendardisch> Fuck you kam goodbye i am done here fucking idiots
- Jul 18 15:15:00 <Kamchastkia> The only evidence that the rebels could have shot it down is a BUK TEL system driving around.
- Jul 18 15:15:00 * Legendardisch has quit (Quit: Bye)
- Jul 18 18:28:01 <Kamchastkia> The food crisis was in the 90's/
- Jul 18 18:28:06 <Kamchastkia> For the most part it has been solved.
- Jul 18 18:28:12 <TNL> "most part"
- Jul 18 18:28:17 <Legendardisch> Fuck russian seperatists and russia for murdering civilians
- Jul 18 18:28:17 <TNL> oh they're only starving a little
- Jul 18 18:28:21 <Fallenrun> Evidence kam?
- Jul 18 18:28:21 <Kamchastkia> Perhaps if essential goods weren't embargoed they'd eat a little better.
- Jul 18 18:28:31 <TNL> perhaps if north korea stopped being a dictatorship
- Jul 18 18:28:38 <TNL> and stopped threatening to nuke everyone
- Jul 18 18:28:39 <Kamchastkia> You don't get to prevent nations from importing just about anything and then blame the failure of their economy on them.
- Jul 18 18:28:46 <Kamchastkia> If you embargoed the UK it would STARVE.
- Jul 18 18:28:47 <TNL> and stopped supplying weapons to other dictatorships
- Jul 18 18:29:01 <TNL> yes, but the UK doesn't kill it's own civillians arbitatrily
- Jul 18 18:29:09 <TNL> and doesn't threaten to nuke entire nations
- Jul 18 18:29:10 <Kamchastkia> No, it lets the US do that.
- Jul 18 18:29:24 <Kamchastkia> Neither doe sthe DPRK.
- Jul 18 18:29:25 <Fallenrun> Note does the UK threaten other countries with nuclear strikes.
- Jul 18 18:29:28 <TNL> key word here is arbitrarily
- Jul 18 18:29:35 <TNL> the DPRK literally operates death camps
- Jul 18 18:29:42 <Kamchastkia> According to BRITISH documentaries?
- Jul 18 18:29:45 <TNL> or work camps, rather, where people die
- Jul 18 18:29:48 <Fallenrun> Kam NK does kill it's own people.
- Jul 18 18:29:50 <TNL> according to satellite imagery
- Jul 18 18:29:56 <TNL> according to documentaries
- Jul 18 18:29:57 <Kamchastkia> So does any country Fallenrun.
- Jul 18 18:32:40 <Legendardisch> You know kam
- Jul 18 18:32:41 <Kamchastkia> you have failed to provide any proof to backup your claims.
- Jul 18 18:32:42 <TNL> omg see the triangles
- Jul 18 18:32:44 <TNL> wake up america
- Jul 18 18:32:45 <Fallenrun> I'm agree with TNL.
- Jul 18 18:32:50 <TNL> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-13268857
- Jul 18 18:32:51 <Kamchastkia> Right.
- Jul 18 18:32:52 <Legendardisch> I understand you have opinions
- Jul 18 18:32:57 <Kamchastkia> I'm totally a member of the illuminazis.
- Jul 18 18:32:59 <Kamchastkia> totes.
- Jul 18 18:33:04 <Legendardisch> But to justify some of them
- Jul 18 18:33:06 <Kamchastkia> I totally believe they exist.
- Jul 18 18:33:08 <Kamchastkia> You got me.
- Jul 18 18:33:17 <Kamchastkia> Golly gee.
- Jul 18 18:33:21 <Kamchastkia> I thought that would be kept a secret.
- Jul 18 18:33:42 <TNL> http://edition.cnn.com/2014/02/16/world/asia/north-korea-un-report/
- Jul 18 18:33:46 <Kamchastkia> You guys assert things without evidence yet when I demand any I'm the bad guy.
- Jul 18 18:33:52 <Kamchastkia> The UN went to war with the DPRK TNL
- Jul 18 18:33:54 <Kamchastkia> The UN
- Jul 18 18:33:56 <Kamchastkia> went to war.
- Jul 18 18:34:00 <Kamchastkia> With the DPRK.
- Jul 18 18:34:13 <feepbot> [Cannot connect to target]
- Jul 18 18:34:18 <TNL> http://edition.cnn.com/2013/12/20/world/asia/north-korea-threats/
- Jul 18 18:34:21 <Legendardisch> Wnd it is completely sick to blame an airliner just to follow a what was then safe route to be shot down 'because it happens all the time'
- Jul 18 18:34:25 <TNL> guess what, that was the cold war
- Jul 18 18:34:29 <TNL> it was literally the 1950s
- Jul 18 18:34:42 <TNL> and the UN meant THE WEST
- Jul 18 18:35:00 <Kamchastkia> The Ukrainians are much more likely suspects than the Donetsk Militia
- Jul 18 18:35:06 <feepbot> [Cannot connect to target]
- Jul 18 18:35:19 <TNL> Why?
- Jul 18 18:35:23 <TNL> What would it gain them?
- Jul 18 18:35:24 <Fallenrun> Kam you are so stupid
- Jul 18 18:35:30 <Kamchastkia> TNL, I'm not saying it was done on purpose.
- Jul 18 18:35:32 <TNL> http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/455876/North-Korea-makes-provocative-nuclear-threat-to-South-Korea-and-key-ally-United-States
- Jul 18 18:35:39 <TNL> the rebels are more undisciplined\
- Jul 18 18:35:42 <Kamchastkia> THe Ukraine, US, Rusisa, they've all shot down civilian jetliners before.
- Jul 18 18:35:42 <feepbot> [Cannot connect to target]
- Jul 18 18:35:46 <Kamchastkia> The rebels are UNTRAINED too TNL.
- Jul 18 18:35:50 <TNL> yes
- Jul 18 18:36:00 <Legendardisch> Therebels
- Jul 18 18:36:01 <Kamchastkia> There's no evidence to suggest they know how to even operate the TELAR Buk system.
- Jul 18 18:36:07 <TNL> so they suck at their jobs and fuck up with their shiny new russian rocket launchers
- Jul 18 18:36:09 <Legendardisch> Were fucking trained by russians
- Jul 18 18:36:16 <Legendardisch> You incompetent moron
- Jul 18 18:36:19 <Kamchastkia> There's no evidence to suggest that Legendardisch.
- Jul 18 18:36:30 <TNL> except the russian volunteers crossing the border
- Jul 18 18:36:31 <Legendardisch> Kam
- Jul 18 18:36:35 <Fallenrun> Kam you are a fucking moron.
- Jul 18 18:36:38 <Kamchastkia> With the amount of evidence that meets your thirst for war you would probably have supported the invasion of Iraq.
- Jul 18 18:36:56 <feepbot> [Cannot connect to target]
- Jul 18 18:36:57 <Legendardisch> The fucking evidence that rebels shot the plane down is piling up
- Jul 18 18:37:01 <Fallenrun> WHO GETS THE MOST OUT OF HALF OF UKRAINE SPLITTING OFF AND AND WANT ING TO JOIN RUSSIA?
- Jul 18 18:37:02 <Kamchastkia> TNL, so? These volunteers aren't active military, and most likely still wouldn't know how to operate it.
- Jul 18 18:37:02 <Legendardisch> Stop watching rt
- Jul 18 18:37:11 <Fallenrun> RUSSIA FOR FUCKS SAKE
- Jul 18 18:37:17 <TNL> kam
- Jul 18 18:37:20 <TNL> don't give me that shit
- Jul 18 18:37:24 <Kamchastkia> Actually Fallenrun, Russia has shown no intent to annex Donetsk.
- Jul 18 18:37:39 <TNL> It's not like Russia has an interest in destabilizing ukraine
- Jul 18 18:37:40 <Kamchastkia> It has not aided the rebels or complied with their requests for peace keepers.
- Jul 18 18:38:01 <TNL> funny how the russian border dissolves just as the rebels show up
- Jul 18 18:38:06 <Kamchastkia> if you've been watching putin's actions lately they've been having an active discussion witht he new president.
- Jul 18 18:38:11 <TNL> you'd think the russians might try and stop some stuff crossing the border
- Jul 18 18:38:13 <Kamchastkia> Right.
- Jul 18 18:38:14 <Kamchastkia> Totally.
- Jul 18 18:38:18 <Fallenrun> Kam that's because they know if they do send in the troops to help the rebels the EU will attack and NATO.
- Jul 18 18:38:22 <Kamchastkia> The Ukrainians just magically were able to violate the border without getting shot at.
- Jul 18 18:38:32 <Kamchastkia> Maybe idk, the border isn't as secure as you think?
- Jul 18 18:38:32 <TNL> apparently
- Jul 18 18:38:33 <TNL> yep
- Jul 18 18:38:35 <TNL> funny, isn't it
- Jul 18 18:38:39 <TNL> how the might russian army
- Jul 18 18:38:50 <TNL> with it's god who knows how many forward units deployed there
- Jul 18 18:38:51 <Kamchastkia> The Russian Army isn't doing a buildup on the Ukrainian border.
- Jul 18 18:38:53 <TNL> can't protect a line
- Jul 18 18:39:05 <Kamchastkia> The Duma is in the process of revoking the permission to send troops into the Ukraine.
- Jul 18 18:39:06 <Fallenrun> Kam they already built up at the border.
- Jul 18 18:39:07 <TNL> well, they certaintly have a lot more units there than before
- Jul 18 18:39:16 <Legendardisch> Kam you are sick to justify the death of 298, which of 192 where people from my country
- Jul 18 18:39:27 <Kamchastkia> The Ukrainians are the most likely suspects Legendardisch.
- Jul 18 18:39:29 <Fallenrun> THEY BUILT UP WHEN THEY INVADING CRIMEA
- Jul 18 18:39:32 <Legendardisch> Kam you are a sick messed up man , sorry
- Jul 18 18:39:40 <Kamchastkia> Fallenrun, Donetsk was already unstable.
- Jul 18 18:39:50 <TNL> Kamchastkia, the Ukrainians don't exactly control the territory the plane was flying over
- Jul 18 18:40:02 <TNL> Which heavily implies it was the rebels
- Jul 18 18:40:04 <Legendardisch> Kam.. Russians supplied the rebels. Russians trained the rebels
- Jul 18 18:40:08 <TNL> I'm not saying it definitely was
- Jul 18 18:40:13 <Kamchastkia> Stop lying to yourself Legendardisch
- Jul 18 18:40:16 <Legendardisch> Ukraine did not shot that plane down
- Jul 18 18:40:22 <TNL> but probably, as the Ukrainians would be more careful than that
- Jul 18 18:40:35 <Kamchastkia> TNL, The Ukrainians themselves have accidentally engaged civilian jetliners before.
- Jul 18 18:40:39 <Kamchastkia> SO have most large nations.
- Jul 18 18:40:42 <Kamchastkia> It happens.
- Jul 18 18:40:46 <Legendardisch> Kam do you know how a buk system works
- Jul 18 18:40:49 <TNL> yes, but I'm saying they
- Jul 18 18:40:54 <Legendardisch> You clearly dont
- Jul 18 18:40:57 <Kamchastkia> Right. Legend.
- Jul 18 18:40:58 <TNL> -'d be a little more careful considering the circumstances
- Jul 18 18:40:58 <Kamchastkia> Totally.
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- Jul 18 18:41:08 <TNL> at least, more careful than the rebels
- Jul 18 18:41:15 <Kamchastkia> TNL, the US shot down a jetliner with a country it was on the verge war with accidentally ebfore.
- Jul 18 18:41:18 <TNL> who have been seen operating tanks (wonder who taught them that)
- Jul 18 18:41:19 <Kamchastkia> Shit happens
- Jul 18 18:41:23 <TNL> yes, shit happens
- Jul 18 18:41:27 <TNL> and it was probably the rebels
- Jul 18 18:41:28 <Kamchastkia> sometimes you mistake a civilian jetliner for a military plane.
- Jul 18 18:41:30 <TNL> not necessarily on purpose
- Jul 18 18:41:34 <TNL> but probably the rebels
- Jul 18 18:41:42 <Kamchastkia> There's no evidence to suggest the rebels knew how to operate the equipment they captured.
- Jul 18 18:41:51 <Kamchastkia> We know the Ukrainians know how to operate the equipment they have.
- Jul 18 18:41:55 <TNL> well, they've been seen operating tanks
- Jul 18 18:42:00 <Legendardisch> Kam. A buk system exists of more vehicles. Used together the radar knows if you shoot down a civilian plane or a military plane
- Jul 18 18:42:04 <Kamchastkia> Tanks are more simple than a Buk.
- Jul 18 18:42:10 <Fallenrun> Kam the evidence is they THAT THEY ARE FUCKING USING THE EQUIPMENT
- Jul 18 18:42:12 <TNL> and they've been seen capturing and beating up foreign civillians, so obviously they don't care that much for foreigners
- Jul 18 18:42:20 <Kamchastkia> Legendardisch, they only ccaptured and had operational 1 TELAR system.
- Jul 18 18:42:29 <Legendardisch> Kam
- Jul 18 18:42:33 <Legendardisch> Russia
- Jul 18 18:42:37 <Legendardisch> Supplied
- Jul 18 18:42:41 <Kamchastkia> No they didn'.t
- Jul 18 18:42:43 <Legendardisch> The rebels
- Jul 18 18:42:45 <Kamchastkia> PROVE IT.
- Jul 18 18:42:46 <Legendardisch> Russia
- Jul 18 18:42:51 <Legendardisch> Trained them
- Jul 18 18:42:56 <Kamchastkia> Proof.
- Jul 18 18:43:03 <Kamchastkia> You've never provided ANY proof.
- Jul 18 18:43:10 <Legendardisch> Kam how must i proof it when ykh blindly trust rt
- Jul 18 18:43:12 <Fallenrun> I'm gunna leave.
- Jul 18 18:43:18 <Legendardisch> You are brainwashed
- Jul 18 18:43:27 <Kamchastkia> I might not ever be able to change your mind.
- Jul 18 18:43:30 <Fallenrun> Kam is too stupid to actually realise what happened.
- Jul 18 18:43:34 <Kamchastkia> But you can change mine if you prove it.
- Jul 18 18:43:41 <Kamchastkia> Evidence.
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- Jul 18 18:44:23 <Legendardisch> Kam
- Jul 18 18:44:24 <TNL> not definitive;
- Jul 18 18:44:24 <TNL> http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/separatists-said-to-have-had-anti-aircraft-training-in-russia/2014/07/18/0af398f2-0e82-11e4-b8e5-d0de80767fc2_story.html
- Jul 18 18:44:27 >Fallenrun< <3 you too.
- Jul 18 18:44:38 <Legendardisch> Please
- Jul 18 18:44:44 <Legendardisch> Just leave
- Jul 18 18:44:58 <Legendardisch> You have shown disrespect for too long
- Jul 18 18:45:14 <Legendardisch> Just calm down
- Jul 18 18:45:25 <Kamchastkia> Stop being hypocritical.
- Jul 18 18:45:33 <Kamchastkia> You're making claims without evidence and calling me brainwashed.
- Jul 18 18:45:42 <Kamchastkia> TNL, the shooting down of the AN was possible with the MANPADs we know the rebels have.
- Jul 18 18:45:43 <Legendardisch> And return when more civilized or when you understand the scope of this disaster
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- Jul 18 18:45:57 <Kamchastkia> Heed your own advice.
- Jul 18 18:46:00 <Legendardisch> Kam
- Jul 18 18:46:13 <Legendardisch> The rebels have buk systems
- Jul 18 18:46:22 <Legendardisch> There are videos off it
- Jul 18 18:46:22 <TNL> http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2014/07/18/new-video-allegedly-shows-buk-missile-system-en-route-to-russia/
- Jul 18 18:46:26 <Kamchastkia> Possessing something doesn't necessarily mean you know how to operate it.
- Jul 18 18:46:32 <Legendardisch> Kam
- Jul 18 18:46:33 <TNL> nothing definitive
- Jul 18 18:46:38 <TNL> everythings
- Jul 18 18:46:40 <Legendardisch> They are being trained
- Jul 18 18:46:48 <TNL> "allegedly"
- Jul 18 18:47:09 <Kamchastkia> TNL, the possession of it doesn't mean they know how to operate.
- Jul 18 18:47:19 <Kamchastkia> Also with just one TELAR system the accuracy of the entire system is basically crap.
- Jul 18 18:47:30 <Kamchastkia> IF that is a TELAR system and not a TEL
- Jul 18 18:47:38 <Legendardisch> Kam
- Jul 18 18:47:40 <Kamchastkia> If it is a TEL module then it's completely fucking useless.
- Jul 18 18:47:41 <Legendardisch> Ffs
- Jul 18 18:47:45 <feepbot> [Cannot connect to target]
- Jul 18 18:47:55 <TNL> well, kam, the platform seems to be missing a missile
- Jul 18 18:48:00 <TNL> which strongly indicates it's been used
- Jul 18 18:48:04 <Legendardisch> Someone kick feepbot to reset it
- Jul 18 18:48:08 <TNL> it's a little more than "no evidence"
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- Jul 18 18:48:17 <Kamchastkia> While the video cannot be independently verified
- Jul 18 18:48:24 <Legendardisch> Kam
- Jul 18 18:48:32 <TNL> the video was submitted independently
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- Jul 18 18:48:44 <Kamchastkia> We don't know when this video was recorded for sure or where it was recorded.
- Jul 18 18:48:47 <TNL> the White House suggested that the russians had been training the rebels
- Jul 18 18:48:57 <Kamchastkia> The White House suggested that Iraq had nuclear weapons.
- Jul 18 18:49:01 <TNL> I certaintly wouldn't call it "no evidence"
- Jul 18 18:49:03 <Kamchastkia> I don't take the White HOuse's word.
- Jul 18 18:49:09 <Kamchastkia> I'd like to see the evidence.
- Jul 18 18:49:12 <TNL> Yes, and that was met with skepticism by most of the West.
- Jul 18 18:49:16 <TNL> I've shown you it.
- Jul 18 18:49:22 <Kamchastkia> And the evidence you provided is not proof they know how to operate it.
- Jul 18 18:49:26 <Legendardisch> One part of the huk system, the launcher can function without the other systems,bjt it wont be accurate and its radar is small and wont tell you if you shoot down a civilian plane
- Jul 18 18:49:29 <Kamchastkia> We don't know when, where, etc. that video was recorded.
- Jul 18 18:49:34 <TNL> They certaintly know how to drive it.
- Jul 18 18:49:38 <Kamchastkia> Legendardisch, it depends if that model was a TEL or TELAR system.
- Jul 18 18:50:01 <TNL> "Although U.S. officials on Friday stopped short of assigning direct blame for the shooting down of the jet, President Obama said “evidence indicates that the plane was shot down by a surface-to-air missile” launched from rebel-held territory in Ukraine. "
- Jul 18 18:50:10 <TNL> Too early to assign blame definitively, as I've said.
- Jul 18 18:50:13 <Kamchastkia> I can drive a stryker, it's just like a car basically. Does that mean I know how to shoot the thing?
- Jul 18 18:50:17 <TNL> But it was probably the rebels.
- Jul 18 18:50:28 <Kamchastkia> And I say it was probably the Ukrainians
- Jul 18 18:50:40 <Legendardisch> Kam it shot down a plane how hard is it to accept that
- Jul 18 18:50:48 <Kamchastkia> Legendardisch, prove it to me.
- Jul 18 18:50:51 <Kamchastkia> I'm here.
- Jul 18 18:50:55 <TNL> If someone shoots down a plane from Russian territory, and a Soviet platform was involved, who is the most likely shooter?
- Jul 18 18:50:55 <Kamchastkia> All you gotta do is prove itt.
- Jul 18 18:51:00 <Legendardisch> Stop watching rt
- Jul 18 18:51:08 <Kamchastkia> It wasn't shot from Russian territory?
- Jul 18 18:51:11 <TNL> I know.
- Jul 18 18:51:25 <Kamchastkia> Also, the Ukrainians have the same exact systems oerating in the same area.
- Jul 18 18:51:28 <Legendardisch> If i proof it to you you call it no proof
- Jul 18 18:51:30 <TNL> But if someone shoots the plane over rebel territory...
- Jul 18 18:51:33 <Legendardisch> There no point
- Jul 18 18:51:41 <Legendardisch> You are stubborn
- Jul 18 18:51:50 <Kamchastkia> TNL, the Ukrainians were enforcing a restricted airspace zone.
- Jul 18 18:51:58 <Kamchastkia> Data can be misinterpreted.
- Jul 18 18:52:03 <TNL> I don't think the Ukrainians would shoot it down because it's heading was off.
- Jul 18 18:52:06 <Kamchastkia> It's caused many disaster IRL involving aircraft.
- Jul 18 18:52:12 <TNL> It wasn't coming from the rebels or moscow.
- Jul 18 18:52:31 <TNL> The rebels could very well assume it was a hostile government plane.
- Jul 18 18:52:31 <Kamchastkia> I don't think the Ukrainians are that good at their job, they know how to operate the equipment but overall their "army" is a clusterfuck right now.
- Jul 18 18:52:42 <Legendardisch> Kam
- Jul 18 18:52:55 <Kamchastkia> I don't believe right now given the current evidence that the rebels are well trained enough to properly operate it.
- Jul 18 18:52:56 <Legendardisch> Only the rebels have been shooting planes down
- Jul 18 18:52:59 <TNL> I think they're good enough at their job to read headings.
- Jul 18 18:53:12 <Legendardisch> Larger equipment was bound to happen
- Jul 18 18:53:35 <Kamchastkia> It doesn't mean they can't become disorientated, especially given the fact of the current state of the Ukraine's army.
- Jul 18 18:53:49 <Legendardisch> Kam
- Jul 18 18:53:57 <Kamchastkia> Legendardisch, I'm ignoring you for now, all you're doing is throwing around accusations when I ask for proof you provide none.
- Jul 18 18:54:09 <Kamchastkia> So, unless you can at the vry least supply some piece of evidence.
- Jul 18 18:54:12 <Legendardisch> A full buk system tells you its civilian or not
- Jul 18 18:54:18 <Kamchastkia> HOwever crappy it is, I won't be speaking with you.
- Jul 18 18:54:46 <TNL> TBH this is going nowhere.
- Jul 18 18:54:51 <TNL> We might as well change the subject.
- Jul 18 18:54:56 <Kamchastkia> Legendardisch is mad that I disagree with him.
- Jul 18 18:55:00 <Legendardisch> Kam you are a disrepectfull idiot just fuck off now you shitty putin ass licker
- Jul 18 18:55:01 <Kamchastkia> I'm a child murdering bastard.
- Jul 18 18:55:06 <Kamchastkia> Oh yes.
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- Jul 18 18:55:11 <Kamchastkia> Throw more degrading comments at me.
- Jul 18 18:55:12 <Kamchastkia> Please.
- Jul 18 18:55:13 <Kamchastkia> :)
- Jul 18 18:55:26 <TNL> Both of you knock it off, now, please.
- Jul 18 18:55:38 <Kamchastkia> Someone on the internet who obviously disagrees me with me is insulting me? Perhaps I should notify the authorities.
- Jul 18 18:55:44 <Kamchastkia> They will save me from the internet.
- Jul 18 18:55:52 <Legendardisch> Kam i tried to be nice with you, dick
- Jul 18 18:55:59 <Kamchastkia> Actually you haven't.
- Jul 18 18:56:02 <TNL> Ohkay, guys.
- Jul 18 18:56:04 <TNL> Enough.
- Jul 18 18:56:09 <Kamchastkia> You've insulted me whenever you got the chance since this incident.
- Jul 18 18:56:19 <TNL> Kam, please.
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- Jul 18 18:56:51 <TNL> Now it's clear that neither of us is going to convince you, kam, and same vice-versa.
- Jul 18 18:56:52 <Kamchastkia> I'm not allowed to have an opinion that dissents from yours now without you hurling insults at me. I've been civilized for the most part all I want is proof. All you have to do is convince me. You refuse to do that and instead you insult me.
- Jul 18 18:57:17 <Ghant> Woah.
- Jul 18 18:57:30 <Ghant> Kammy, what's going on?
- Jul 18 18:57:32 <Kamchastkia> inb4 it's blamed on me.
- Jul 18 18:57:49 <Kamchastkia> inb4 another ban.
- Jul 18 18:57:56 <Luziyca> Just some bickering between Leg and Kam
- Jul 18 18:57:57 <TNL> There's an argument ongoing about why the airliner in Ukraine crashed.
- Jul 18 18:58:16 <Luziyca> In my opinion, Malaysian Airlines has a very poor safety record.
- Jul 18 18:58:17 <TNL> Kamchastkia believes it was because of the Ukrainian Army, Legendardisch and I believe it was due to the rebels.
- Jul 18 18:58:19 <Ghant> Well, does anybody know what happened to it exactly?
- Jul 18 18:58:30 <Kamchastkia> Exactly Luziyca.
- Jul 18 18:58:40 <Luziyca> It may have blown up a la Challenger.
- Jul 18 18:58:41 <Ghant> I agree with Luziyca
- Jul 18 18:58:47 <Kamchastkia> I've said itthis before.
- Jul 18 18:58:49 <Ghant> I mean, we don't know the facts.
- Jul 18 18:58:51 <TNL> It's unclear, but US staff suggests that the rebels were to blame, while the rebels blame the Ukrainians, and the Ukrainians blame the rebels.
- Jul 18 18:58:53 <Ghant> So lets not point fingers
- Jul 18 18:58:58 <Kamchastkia> Yet it's "obvious" that it was shot down by none other than the rebels.
- Jul 18 18:59:01 <Kamchastkia> For no rason
- Jul 18 18:59:02 <Ghant> So it is a blame game
- Jul 18 18:59:03 <Kamchastkia> reason*
- Jul 18 18:59:11 <Luziyca> Let's just blame it on an act of God, and call it a day.
- Jul 18 18:59:20 <Luziyca> Or just say it was blown up like how the Challenger exploded back in '86.
- Jul 18 18:59:21 <TNL> Well, it was shot down over rebel territory while the rebels possessed anti-aircraft weapons.
- Jul 18 18:59:26 <Kamchastkia> Regardless the black boxes won't prove anything.
- Jul 18 18:59:31 <Legendardisch> Kam do you even know this disaster stands closer to me than to you the disrespectfull cunt
- Jul 18 18:59:35 <Kamchastkia> Exept maybe that they weren't shot down.
- Jul 18 18:59:49 <TNL> The crash site seems to suggest very strongly that it was.
- Jul 18 18:59:49 <Ghant> TNL, could Ukraine have shot the plane down and then blamed the rebels for it?
- Jul 18 18:59:49 <Legendardisch> They were shot down you idiot
- Jul 18 18:59:55 <Kamchastkia> 49 ish americans were shot down on it, but you know what. I'm capable of getting past that and looking at the facts.
- Jul 18 18:59:57 <Ghant> Such a tactic has happend before elsewhere
- Jul 18 18:59:59 <TNL> Yes, it's possible, but I find it unlikely.
- Jul 18 19:00:01 <Luziyca> How about you two get a room and settle it by PM?
- Jul 18 19:00:17 <TNL> It's more likely it was an erro.
- Jul 18 19:00:19 <TNL> error*
- Jul 18 19:00:25 <Legendardisch> 192 dutch people were shot down kam
- Jul 18 19:00:30 <TNL> And I find it more likely that the rebels made such an error than the Ukrainians.
- Jul 18 19:00:31 <Kamchastkia> Y'all are just jealous of the Kamch Army
- Jul 18 19:00:31 <Kamchastkia> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqSxji5gXKY
- Jul 18 19:00:45 <TNL> omfg
- Jul 18 19:00:46 <Kamchastkia> I don't think the rebels know how to operate the buk system.
- Jul 18 19:00:48 <TNL> kamch wurst nation
- Jul 18 19:01:03 <TNL> can't even into crushing sepertatistststst
- Jul 18 19:01:12 <Kamchastkia> We bomb them
- Jul 18 19:01:13 <Kamchastkia> :D
- Jul 18 19:01:17 <TNL> not enuff clearly
- Jul 18 19:01:20 <TNL> they're still aliv
- Jul 18 19:01:26 <Kamchastkia> We do it again tomorrow
- Jul 18 19:01:29 <Kamchastkia> And day after that
- Jul 18 19:01:31 <Kamchastkia> and day after that
- Jul 18 19:01:32 <TNL> ohkay
- Jul 18 19:01:34 <Kamchastkia> and day after that.
- Jul 18 19:01:35 <Kamchastkia> :D
- Jul 18 19:01:37 <TNL> maybe one day you will learn
- Jul 18 19:01:44 <Kamchastkia> We got lots of ammo to waste.
- Jul 18 19:01:56 <Kamchastkia> #Stockpiling
- Jul 18 19:21:43 <Legendardisch> Im gone. Go ask yourself ehy i throw in these words arround and all, i normally dont do that.
- Jul 18 19:21:59 <Kamchastkia> Because it's sensationalized news?
- Jul 18 19:22:11 <Legendardisch> Fuck you kam
- Jul 18 19:22:20 <Legendardisch> Just fuck off
- Jul 18 19:22:20 <Kamchastkia> Claiming they were shot down without solid evidence.
- Jul 18 19:22:26 <Kamchastkia> "Yellow Journalism"
- Jul 18 19:22:28 <Dogma> Everybody just Calm down
- Jul 18 19:22:54 <Kamchastkia> I'm quite calm, Legend just keeps throwing insults at me for not agreeing with him.
- Jul 18 19:23:22 <Ghant> Looks like Legendardisch was the one that started flaming
- Jul 18 19:24:00 <Kamchastkia> I won't respect someone who insults me when I disagree with them.
- Jul 18 19:24:13 <Legendardisch> Kam
- Jul 18 19:24:32 <Kamchastkia> You wanted me to stop talking to you, yet you continue messaging me.
- Jul 18 19:24:36 <Legendardisch> If you show a bit more respect in the morning
- Jul 18 19:24:38 <Kamchastkia> If you don't want to hear my opinion don't talk to me.
- Jul 18 19:24:45 <Kamchastkia> It's as simple as that.
- Jul 18 19:24:46 <Ghant> This is what is going to happen
- Jul 18 19:24:51 <Legendardisch> You kept messaging me
- Jul 18 19:24:54 <Ghant> We are going to stop talking about this shit.
- Jul 18 19:24:56 <Ghant> NOW
- Jul 18 19:24:57 <Kamchastkia> Actually I stopped.
- Jul 18 19:25:00 <Ghant> Good
- Jul 18 19:25:02 <Legendardisch> Kam xtjmoo
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- Jul 22 17:09:30 <Demphor> You wanna fuck with us?
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- Jul 22 17:09:40 <Dogma> Bite me
- Jul 22 17:09:53 <Wasyt> Here's some evidence that Putin was on board with his KGB agents and they personally made Mh17 crash https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SschmmVFMUM
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- Jul 22 17:10:01 <Kammy> I posted that log Dogma
- Jul 22 17:10:05 <Kammy> You kicked him without reason
- Jul 22 17:10:18 <Wasyt> You're right Kammy.
- Jul 22 17:10:34 <Wasyt> ever heard of vietnam Dogma?
- Jul 22 17:10:34 <Kammy> I gotta be somewhere
- Jul 22 17:10:36 <Kammy> shit to do
- Jul 22 17:10:37 <Wasyt> You're entering a world of pain
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- Jul 22 17:10:57 <Wasyt> A STRANGER
- Jul 22 17:10:57 <Wasyt> IN THE
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- Jul 22 17:11:06 <Wasyt> THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS LARRY
- Jul 22 17:11:35 <Wasyt> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ht9VZ9RB_w&feature=player_detailpage#t=61
- Jul 22 17:11:40 <feepbot> When you fuck a stranger in the ass - YouTube
- Jul 22 17:12:31 * Demphor sets ban on Kammy!*@*
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- **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Jul 22 17:12:37 2014
- Jul 22 20:17:26 <WizKhalifa> Legendardisch
- Jul 22 20:17:28 <Legendardisch> You fail at life
- Jul 22 20:17:31 <WizKhalifa> You know what makes this fun
- Jul 22 20:17:33 * Demphor sets ban on WizKhalifa!*@*
- Jul 22 20:17:35 <WizKhalifa> You can't take a joke
- Jul 22 20:17:35 * #Elysium :Cannot send to channel
- Jul 22 20:17:44 * You have been kicked from #Elysium by Demphor (Bye!)
- **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Jul 22 20:17:44 2014
- **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jul 22 20:20:04 2014
- Jul 22 20:20:04 * Now talking on #Elysium
- Jul 22 20:20:04 * Topic for #Elysium is: Welcome to Elysium! | Rules: http://pastebin.com/V0jGZDra | Forum: http://bit.ly/RRB4Ls | Map: http://bit.ly/1oXvRN2 | TG Spartianus for Map Requests | RIP MH17 victims
- Jul 22 20:20:04 * Topic for #Elysium set by Lanos!~Lanos@12.9.176.130 (Tue Jul 22 18:04:14 2014)
- Jul 22 20:20:07 <Jeeeeeesus> You know what makes this fun Legendardisch? You can't take a joke. You flip out when someone fucks around. So watching you flip out is a joke inofitself.
- Jul 22 20:23:31 <Legendardisch> Kam just gtfo its not a joke
- Jul 22 20:24:42 <Jeeeeeesus> I'm just being annyoing now.
- Jul 22 20:24:48 <Jeeeeeesus> But it's just as interesting.
- Jul 22 20:24:48 <Jeeeeeesus> :)
- Jul 22 20:25:03 <Jeeeeeesus> Maybe if I was banned for a reason I would respect it
- Jul 22 20:25:05 <Jeeeeeesus> but nope
- Jul 22 20:25:14 <Jeeeeeesus> I was banned because Demphor wouldn't shut up about it
- Jul 22 20:25:20 <Jeeeeeesus> and kept threatening to ban me when I stopped.
- Jul 22 20:25:23 <Jeeeeeesus> :)
- Jul 22 20:25:30 <Jeeeeeesus> So I'llcontinue to avoid the bans
- Jul 22 20:25:37 <Jeeeeeesus> There are millions of IPs out here I can use.
- Jul 22 20:25:41 <Jeeeeeesus> You'll never get rid of me.
- Jul 22 20:25:44 <Demphor> You do realize you're not helping yourself
- Jul 22 20:25:58 <Jeeeeeesus> Demphor, the OPs investigate themselves and find they did nothing wrong!
- Jul 22 20:26:03 <Jeeeeeesus> That's what's gonna happen.
- Jul 22 20:26:06 <Jeeeeeesus> Don't acct like I'm stupid
- Jul 22 20:26:09 <Jeeeeeesus> fucking piece of shit.
- Jul 22 20:26:29 <Jeeeeeesus> :)
- Jul 22 20:26:49 <Demphor> Look at yourself Kamch, you're getting nowhere, Ghant knows, he's going to ban you, and you will suffer the consequences for being an asshole
- Jul 22 20:26:58 <Demphor> fucking piece of shit.
- Jul 22 20:26:59 * Ainin is now known as Ainin|shower
- Jul 22 20:27:12 <Demphor> :)
- Jul 22 20:27:32 <Ainin|shower> Random note
- Jul 22 20:27:34 <Ainin|shower> I love this song
- Jul 22 20:27:35 <Ainin|shower> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m02-RHN_hQE
- Jul 22 20:27:39 <feepbot> Daughtry - Over You - YouTube
- Jul 22 20:28:13 <Jeeeeeesus> Gonna ban me from a region I had already made plans to leave?
- Jul 22 20:28:15 <Jeeeeeesus> So scary.
- Jul 22 20:28:18 <Jeeeeeesus> I shit my pants.
- Jul 22 20:28:51 <Legendardisch> Then just leave asshole
- Jul 22 20:29:01 <Jeeeeeesus> No
- Jul 22 20:29:03 <Nerod> Legendardisch: ?
- Jul 22 20:29:04 <Jeeeeeesus> you banned me for no reason
- Jul 22 20:29:09 <Jeeeeeesus> so I will purposely avoid it
- Jul 22 20:29:09 <Jeeeeeesus> :)
- Jul 22 20:29:15 <Luziyca> Besides Kammy, I thought your internet will go off
- Jul 22 20:29:17 <Legendardisch> I didnt ban you retard
- Jul 22 20:29:23 <Jeeeeeesus> Luziyca. Title Loan
- Jul 22 20:29:26 <Demphor> Oh I banned you because you initiated an argument
- Jul 22 20:29:29 <Demphor> then
- Jul 22 20:29:31 <Jeeeeeesus> Demphor
- Jul 22 20:29:33 <Jeeeeeesus> You notice
- Jul 22 20:29:35 <Jeeeeeesus> if you look at the logs
- Jul 22 20:29:35 <Demphor> returned to continue to piss off legend
- Jul 22 20:29:36 <Jeeeeeesus> I stopped
- Jul 22 20:29:39 <Demphor> oh
- Jul 22 20:29:40 <Jeeeeeesus> until you threatened to ban me.
- Jul 22 20:29:41 <Jeeeeeesus> :)
- Jul 22 20:29:41 <Legendardisch> Nerof link please
- Jul 22 20:29:41 <Demphor> you did now?
- Jul 22 20:29:44 <Jeeeeeesus> Yes I did.
- Jul 22 20:29:46 <Jeeeeeesus> :))
- Jul 22 20:29:49 <Demphor> well
- Jul 22 20:29:50 <Legendardisch> Nerod
- Jul 22 20:29:51 <Jeeeeeesus> I started talking about a song
- Jul 22 20:29:53 <Demphor> after looking at those logs
- Jul 22 20:29:59 <Jeeeeeesus> and you started yelling about banning me.
- Jul 22 20:30:01 <Demphor> you turned off your argument
- Jul 22 20:30:05 <Nerod> Legendardisch: Fallenrun and I are working on the FT RP, we may post it soon. Are you still in?
- Jul 22 20:30:13 <Demphor> and then turned into an annoying shit
- Jul 22 20:30:13 <Legendardisch> Yeah
- Jul 22 20:30:14 <Demphor> which
- Jul 22 20:30:18 <Demphor> last time I remembered
- Jul 22 20:30:24 <Demphor> doesn't help your argument whatsoever
- Jul 22 20:30:31 <Demphor> all the OPS, including Ghant, agree
- Jul 22 20:30:35 <Legendardisch> Your 'jokes' are disgusting kam.
- Jul 22 20:30:39 <Demphor> if you want to leave, go ahead, nobody will stop you
- Jul 22 20:30:43 <Demphor> but if you do
- Jul 22 20:30:54 <Demphor> don't bring this IRC and this region into your sick twisted
- Jul 22 20:30:57 <Demphor> outrageous
- Jul 22 20:31:07 <Legendardisch> Disgusted
- Jul 22 20:31:12 <Demphor> bullshit
- Jul 22 20:31:12 <Jeeeeeesus> I will Demphor
- Jul 22 20:31:14 <Legendardisch> Ideal
- Jul 22 20:31:15 <Jeeeeeesus> You know why?
- Jul 22 20:31:18 <Demphor> then do it now.
- Jul 22 20:31:18 <Jeeeeeesus> Because I can.
- Jul 22 20:31:19 <Jeeeeeesus> :)
- Jul 22 20:31:21 <Demphor> Just don't even.
- Jul 22 20:31:21 <Jeeeeeesus> I am
- Jul 22 20:31:23 <Demphor> Leave
- Jul 22 20:31:23 <Jeeeeeesus> I will be here
- Jul 22 20:31:24 <Jeeeeeesus> 24/7
- Jul 22 20:31:26 <Demphor> Now.
- Jul 22 20:31:28 <Jeeeeeesus> No
- Jul 22 20:31:28 <Legendardisch> Just leave then
- Jul 22 20:31:29 <Jeeeeeesus> No
- Jul 22 20:31:30 <Jeeeeeesus> :)
- Jul 22 20:31:39 <Jeeeeeesus> I'm not leaving because my presence is making you mad.
- Jul 22 20:31:52 <Demphor> Oh, I'm not mad
- Jul 22 20:31:58 <Demphor> I deal with children like you a lot
- Jul 22 20:32:05 <Jeeeeeesus> Not you
- Jul 22 20:32:05 <Demphor> if anything
- Jul 22 20:32:07 <Jeeeeeesus> LEgenadrdisch
- Jul 22 20:32:10 <Demphor> this makes a great story
- Jul 22 20:32:10 <Jeeeeeesus> :)
- Jul 22 20:32:19 <Jeeeeeesus> Legendardisch gets pissed off easily
- Jul 22 20:32:23 <Jeeeeeesus> so this is actually quite fun.
- Jul 22 20:32:29 <Jeeeeeesus> Just watching him yell random things.
- Jul 22 20:32:31 <Jeeeeeesus> :P
- Jul 22 20:32:42 <Demphor> Ah, well in that case you are insensitive
- Jul 22 20:32:45 <Legendardisch> Shut up kam
- Jul 22 20:32:48 <Demphor> Legend
- Jul 22 20:32:55 <Demphor> I think you should leave the IRC
- Jul 22 20:32:56 <Jeeeeeesus> Demphor, legend can't take jokes.
- Jul 22 20:33:02 <Demphor> assholes like him only want reactions
- Jul 22 20:33:05 <Jeeeeeesus> :P
- Jul 22 20:33:05 <Demphor> you stop, he leaves
- Jul 22 20:33:09 <Jeeeeeesus> I'm not leaving
- Jul 22 20:33:10 <Jeeeeeesus> :)
- Jul 22 20:33:13 <Demphor> and he knows it
- Jul 22 20:33:16 <Legendardisch> I will leave irc.
- Jul 22 20:33:16 <Demphor> oh you will
- Jul 22 20:33:20 <Jeeeeeesus> No I won't.
- Jul 22 20:33:32 <Demphor> Yes, you will.
- Jul 22 20:33:35 <Jeeeeeesus> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WF5BRvom8o
- Jul 22 20:33:40 <feepbot> Putin Laughs at Stupid Claims - YouTube
- Jul 22 20:34:14 * Ainin|shower is now known as Ainin
- Jul 22 20:34:19 * Demphor removes voice from Jeeeeeesus
- Jul 22 20:34:24 <Demphor> :)
- Jul 22 20:34:28 <Legendardisch> Great job kam you are a sickened twisted disgusting soul, and if any two of these Ainin|shower and Luziyca support you then shame on them.
- Jul 22 20:34:52 <Demphor> I devoiced him
- **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Jul 22 20:35:02 2014
- **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jul 22 20:35:12 2014
- Jul 22 20:35:12 * Now talking on #Elysium
- Jul 22 20:35:12 * Topic for #Elysium is: Welcome to Elysium! | Rules: http://pastebin.com/V0jGZDra | Forum: http://bit.ly/RRB4Ls | Map: http://bit.ly/1oXvRN2 | TG Spartianus for Map Requests | RIP MH17 victims
- Jul 22 20:35:12 * Topic for #Elysium set by Lanos!~Lanos@12.9.176.130 (Tue Jul 22 18:04:14 2014)
- Jul 22 20:35:13 <Gooooooooooddddd> test
- Jul 22 20:35:14 <Gooooooooooddddd> hmm
- Jul 22 20:35:15 <Ainin> Devoicing him won't do anything
- Jul 22 20:35:16 <Gooooooooooddddd> that's good
- Jul 22 20:35:17 * Demphor removes voice from Gooooooooooddddd
- Jul 22 20:35:19 <Ainin> The channel isn't muted
- Jul 22 20:35:19 <Demphor> ha
- Jul 22 20:35:25 <Gooooooooooddddd> :P
- Jul 22 20:35:27 <Gooooooooooddddd> ha
- Jul 22 20:35:30 <Ainin> Demphor
- Jul 22 20:35:32 <Ainin> The channel isn't muted
- Jul 22 20:35:33 <Gooooooooooddddd> Demphor
- Jul 22 20:35:35 <Ainin> Devoicing him won't do anything
- Jul 22 20:35:36 <Luziyca> I personally am of the opinions that both parties should sort it out between themselves in a private forum
- Jul 22 20:35:39 <Gooooooooooddddd> why don't you understand the basics of IRC stuffs?
- Jul 22 20:35:40 <Gooooooooooddddd> :P
- Jul 22 20:35:53 <Gooooooooooddddd> Demphor is the best OP here.
- Jul 22 20:38:12 * Demphor sets mode +m on #Elysium
- Jul 22 20:38:17 <Gooooooooooddddd> .
- Jul 22 20:38:17 * #Elysium :Cannot send to channel
- Jul 22 20:38:35 <Demphor> I am sorry guys
- Jul 22 20:39:24 * Demphor gives channel operator status to Legendardisch
- Jul 22 20:39:39 * Demphor gives voice to Ainin
- Jul 22 20:39:44 * Demphor removes channel operator status from Legendardisch
- Jul 22 20:39:47 * Demphor gives voice to Legendardisch
- Jul 22 20:39:49 * Demphor gives voice to Luziyca
- Jul 22 20:39:53 * Demphor gives voice to Nerod
- Jul 22 20:39:57 * Demphor gives voice to Reno_Lam
- Jul 22 20:40:00 * Demphor gives voice to Yohannes
- Jul 22 20:40:07 <Demphor> There we go!
- Jul 22 20:40:12 <Reno_Lam> \
- Jul 22 20:40:17 <Demphor> ?
- Jul 22 20:40:18 <Luziyca> Hmm
- Jul 22 20:40:36 <Ainin> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUgEmezpS_E#t=15
- Jul 22 20:40:41 <Ainin> Best video ever
- Jul 22 20:41:11 <Ainin> you forgot to unmute feepbot
- Jul 22 20:41:13 <Ainin> :<
- Jul 22 20:41:28 * Reno_Lam has quit (Quit: Yasukuni de aou)
- Jul 22 20:41:29 <Luziyca> lol
- Jul 22 20:41:34 * Demphor gives voice to feepbot
- Jul 22 20:41:42 <Demphor> that's amazing xD
- Jul 22 20:41:44 <Demphor> that video xD
- Jul 22 20:42:44 * Spartianus|AFK (~Spartianu@mobile-198-228-212-155.mycingular.net) has joined
- Jul 22 20:43:15 <Luziyca> ikr?
- Jul 22 20:43:17 <Luziyca> Voice Spart
- Jul 22 20:44:28 * Demphor gives voice to Spartianus|AFK
- Jul 22 20:44:34 <Demphor> security mesaures Spartianus
- Jul 22 20:45:47 * Reno_Lam (~RenoLam@120.88.228.235) has joined
- Jul 22 20:46:17 * Demphor gives voice to Reno_Lam
- Jul 22 20:46:33 * You are now known as NotKam
- Jul 22 20:48:29 Usage: NICK <nickname>, sets your nick
- Jul 22 20:48:33 * You are now known as Dumphor
- Jul 22 20:48:36 * You are now known as Eye
- Jul 22 20:48:40 * You are now known as Luv
- Jul 22 20:48:43 * You are now known as You
- Jul 22 20:48:48 * You are now known as NotKam
- Jul 22 20:49:59 <Demphor> This is amusing xD
- Jul 22 20:50:44 * You are now known as Eye
- Jul 22 20:50:45 * You are now known as Can
- Jul 22 20:50:47 * You are now known as Still
- Jul 22 20:50:50 * You are now known as Communicate
- Jul 22 20:50:55 * You are now known as Luv_You
- Jul 22 20:51:01 <Ainin> I am cramping up right now
- Jul 22 20:51:32 <Legendardisch> http://pastebin.com/sCtRzQxY
- Jul 22 20:51:33 <feepbot> kamchastkia 2 - Pastebin.com
- Jul 22 20:52:23 * Spartianus has quit (Ping timeout: 190 seconds)
- Jul 22 20:53:20 * Luziyca is now known as Luz|eat
- Jul 22 20:56:06 * You are now known as NotKam
- Jul 22 20:58:44 * Spartianus (~Spartianu@207-118-31-141.dyn.centurytel.net) has joined
- Jul 22 20:58:45 * feepbot welcomes Spartianus (1 / 18): Elysium's resident Poundland twerker
- Jul 22 20:58:45 * Spartianus|AFK has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
- Jul 22 20:59:33 <Demphor> good times xD
- Jul 22 20:59:58 * You are now known as Luv_You_Prick
- Jul 22 21:00:06 * You are now known as I_Mean_Demphor
- Jul 22 21:00:09 * You are now known as NotKam
- Jul 22 21:00:21 * Spartianus_ (webchat@207-118-31-141.dyn.centurytel.net) has joined
- Jul 22 21:00:21 * ChanServ gives channel operator status to Spartianus_
- Jul 22 21:00:46 * Spartianus_ has kicked Spartianus from #Elysium (wibble)
- Jul 22 21:01:28 * You are now known as SMD_SMMFD
- Jul 22 21:01:32 * You are now known as NotKam
- Jul 22 21:01:49 * Spartianus_ is now known as Spartianus
- Jul 22 21:02:20 * Spartianus sets ban on *!~Gahhh@95.141.27.41
- Jul 22 21:02:25 * You have been kicked from #Elysium by Spartianus (NotKam)
- **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Jul 22 21:02:25 2014
- **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jul 23 17:53:01 2014
- Jul 23 17:53:01 * Now talking on #Elysium
- Jul 23 17:53:01 * Topic for #Elysium is: Welcome to Elysium! | Rules: http://pastebin.com/V0jGZDra | Forum: http://bit.ly/RRB4Ls | Map: http://bit.ly/1oXvRN2 | TG Spartianus for Map Requests | Users with OP privledges: http://pastebin.com/AdJ65RDm | RIP MH17 victims
- Jul 23 17:53:01 * Topic for #Elysium set by Ghant!Ghant@97-91-148-120.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com (Wed Jul 23 12:45:29 2014)
- Jul 23 17:53:04 <NotKam> Wooooooo
- Jul 23 17:53:05 <NotKam> unbanned
- Jul 23 17:53:06 <NotKam> :D
- Jul 23 17:53:10 * Lanos sets ban on *!*@97-85-143-240.static.stls.mo.charter.com
- Jul 23 17:53:15 <Luziyca> lol
- Jul 23 17:53:15 * You have been kicked from #Elysium by Lanos (NotKam)
- **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Jul 23 17:53:15 2014
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