22 Lesta Nediam POST2016-12-28 1755 Lesta vs. Agents

Lesta Nediam POST2016-12-28 1755 Lesta vs. Agents of the Lie System
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2016-12-28 1755 __ *[IMPORTANT POST] HATERS, DUMMIES AND THE DISHONEST ALIKE REMAIN STUCK IN THE PAST WHEN LESTA BAITED AND TAUNTED PEOPLE WITH STATEMENTS LIKE "EXCELLENT FOOTAGE OF THE RECENT NEPAL EARTHQUAKE HOAX"*. _Study the attached image_.

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This is a fairly long *background post* that will be followed up by a more substantial one in the coming days.


Lesta became active in the so-called "truth community" on the *1st of January, 2015* and hit the ground running. I entered the "truth community" with the *widely held belief* (at the time) that the alleged "Boston Marathon Bombing" was a *fake* event and that anything which was not "proven to be real" could also be assumed to be fake.


For who in the "truther community" knew just how deep the rabbit hole went?


In those early days *prominent truthers* such as *"Dave Johnson" ("Dave J")* and *"Jeff C"* (who now calls himself "New World Agenda" / *"NWA"*) were *strong influences on my thinking*.


I enjoyed watching and listening to both of these already *established members* of the so-called "truth community".


Both gentlemen - _although seemingly *diametric opposites*_ - had influenced the way I *interpreted events and claims* as reported by the news media. With the content that they posted to their respective YouTube channels *both had encouraged Lesta to believe that media events were indeed being "hoaxed"*.


I had entered the "truth community" with the belief (which I'd later realise was an "unjustified belief") that news events were being faked and I received so-called *"confirmation bias"* from these two people *because they both said things that resonated with me*.


What they had to say resonated because I very much needed to hear the kind of things they said - _for at the time I agreed with it *and I was not hearing it spoken anywhere else*_. This is the kind of "relief" - even "joy" - that many in the "truth community" have experienced upon finally breaking free from the "mainstream news" and then hearing "alternative opinions" (such as those coming from "Alex Jones" - who is largely despised amongst "truthers" _but yet many started out by listening to him_).


Although I would later *denounce* both "Dave Johnson" ["Dave J"] and "Jeff C" ["NWA"] as *CHARLATANS* who are *BENEATH CONTEMPT* they had both been instrumental in pointing Lesta in the right direction.


Through "confirmation bias" people like "Dave Johnson" and "Jeff C" ("NWA") had made *pre-existing errors* in my own thinking *worse* but by carefully observing these people they had unwittingly helped me to stumble upon the right path.


As it happens I could not have arrived at the "truth community" at a worse time. Almost immediately there was drama surrounding the alleged sniper "Chris Kyle" (and his alleged "murder"), then there was the alleged "TransAsia" plane crash followed by the alleged "Nepal earthquake" (from there I moved on to the alleged "ISS" for reasons that will be understood in my more substantial follow up post).


>> *With each of these events and claims Lesta DID initially commit the "FALLACY OF THE CONSPIRACY THEORIST"*. <<


_What is that fallacy?_


The "fallacy of the conspiracy theorist" is where *"THE ABSENCE OF 'SUFFICIENT PROOF' MEANS THAT AN EVENT OR CLAIM DID NOT REALLY HAPPEN"*.


Another way of putting it: _"If something *really did happen* and it *can be proven* that it happened then the only reason we would not be shown actual proof for it happening *is because it did not really happen*"_. (It is of course an unsound conclusion.)



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The term "sufficient proof" is a *specialised "lie system" term* and has the following meaning: *_"Sufficient Proof is that which necessarily proves an event or claim to be true and real"_*.


"Sufficient Proof" has nothing to do with an "excess of proof" or "a lot of proof" or "many suspicions about something having happened".


An example can help: If the claim is that "John" punched "X" in the face *and you have clear video footage of "John" actually punching "X" in the face* - then that footage would *qualify* as "sufficient proof" (provided the video footage contained no defects or *"potential editing points"* and thus stood up to *genuine scrutiny*).


However - to simply claim that: _"Because John hates X and the friends of X all claim that John hit X therefore John hit X"_ - *this is not actual proof and is instead termed "proof's appearances"*.


It may well be true that "John really did punch X in the face" but no *"sufficient proof" for the claim has been provided*. That *does not* mean John didn't punch X in the face! Rather - it simply means that to believe the claim would require *trusting* that John "really does hate X and that X's friends are not lying about the punch". *It means accepting (or mistaking) proof's appearances in place of actual proof*.


As mentioned - the fact "John hates X" does not in-and-of itself prove John punched X. And the fact that people claim something happened does not in-and-of itself necessarily mean it did happen etc. Thus each offered piece of "proof" has a *truth value of ZERO* and that is why it is called "proof's appearances" and NOT actual proof. (Only "sufficient proof" has a "truth value" of "one" (or "non zero").


When a lot of these "pieces of NON proof" are offered it creates a "psychological stacking" effect. It can *feel* as though the "evidence is overwhelming" when really *there may be no actual evidence at all*.


Recall that two times zero is zero. A hundred times zero is also zero and ten thousand times zero remains zero, etc. *No amount of "zero" or "nothing" will ever total to anything other than zero and no amount of nothing will ever be more than nothing*! (The saying "if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck then it's a duck" can be a good rule of thumb but you must not rely on it to *convict* people!)


>> *When a whole lot of "nothing" is offered as "proof" it has a psychological "stacking" effect which can then make it SEEM as though an event really did happen*. << And maybe it did! _But if it did it is not because of those "NON reasons"_.


This *"psychological stacking"* is also what leads those who have *lost trust in the story teller* to make the "fallacy of the conspiracy theorist". Such a person realises: _"Hang on - we're being shown all of these things but *none of it stands up to scrutiny*! If the claim could be proven then it would be proven but instead we're being shown a whole lot of nothing! *The reason for this must be that it didn't happen!*"_ (Again - it could be true on that occasion but it remains an *unsound conclusion*.)


While it may be true for a particular event that we're given *ONLY* proof's appearances *because the event DID NOT happen* (i.e., this becomes necessary when an event is *fake*) *it is not necessarily true*. A real event can happen where we are not given "sufficient proof". That is why the conclusion is *unsound* and that is why it is an *error of thinking* - albeit a forgivable one since we're surrounded by so many dishonest people!


*The loss of trust in a "story teller" when presented with "psychological stacking" from a "story teller" is what leads to the "fallacy of the conspiracy theory"*.


Exploitation of this common thinking error is where the lie system's *perceptual magic trick* takes place.


This is one of the thinking errors I did make early on *but soon realised and corrected it*. Once I did I was then able to make many significant breakthroughs regarding the lie system. _But not any sooner!_


The reason I was able to then make breakthroughs is because of *WHY* the "fallacy of the conspiracy theorist" is an *unsound conclusion*.


The reason it is not necessarily true (i.e., the error in thinking whereby if something could be proven it would be proven but since it's not being proven then it must not true) *is what gets to the root of the lie system*.


*THE ROOT OF THE LIE SYSTEM IN BRIEF*: The lie system is about engineering the population to successfully accept lies as truth. *The "lie system" does this by routinely presenting TRUTH to the audience in the SAME FORM that a lie would NEED to take*. It does this by simply censoring "sufficient proof". When this is done repeatedly to the population (from each person's birth) *it reliably causes enough people to accept an outright lie (or half-truth) whenever it is desired or required*. (I have explained these points more fully in the past and I will again do so in the future.)


(Of course - there will always be those who assert that something which *is* a lie is a lie *but because of the lie system's strategy they will always be right BUT FOR THE WRONG REASONS* - _and thus *no threat* to the lie system_.)


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The "fallacy of the conspiracy theorist" is an important error in thinking to understand and you can make no meaningful progress until you are yourself free from it. *I made no meaningful progress until I recognised it in myself*.


It is such a common error in thinking and I see nearly everyone making it today. Those who attack "conspiracy theorists" do so because they can easily spot the fallacy with what "hoaxtards" have to say. However - these people then fail to recognise the fallacy in their own assertions (which are often easy for the "hoaxtard" to recognise). Each person from each side can easily perceive the flaws with what the other side is saying - _just not when it comes to themselves_.

(In part that was why I tried to bait people early on by calling events fake - so that those people would be forced to realise that they have no more proof that something *did* happen than *didn't*. This approach was lost on most people.)


"Hoaxtards" (i.e., "Conspiracy Theorists") commit this fallacy whenever they assert something is a "hoax" because "it has not been properly proven" and "Realtards" (i.e., those who relentlessly claim events are real) also commit this fallacy (in reverse) *when they assert that something lacking "sufficient proof" really did happen*.


I was on the right path *but came to an unsound conclusion* regarding the events I mentioned because of that subtle error in thinking. It was only after I had realised the error in my thinking and eliminated it that I was able to break away from the *negative influences* of people like "Dave Johnson" and "Jeff C" ("NWA").


Once I had shaken myself free from the "fallacy of the conspiracy theorist" *I was then able to perceive the problem clearly and solve the problem of the "lie system"* - _which is something I have been trying to describe to people ever since_.


Making mistakes and arriving at the wrong conclusions during those early formative days *were necessary for me to get to where I am today*.


We must all be given the freedom to learn from our past mistakes and it takes a bitter and spiteful person to relentlessly hold another to past mistakes even though they are no longer making them today.


_*It would be like hitting a child for having not been able to walk as a baby!*_


Haters, dummies and the dishonest alike have been holding Lesta to statements and mistakes made during those early days (made in the first few months of my arrival now more than 12 to 18 months ago) *when I was still figuring out the problem*.


They are doing this even though I have eliminated the offending mistake from my thinking *and have gone so far as to painstakingly spell out the mistake for others to see and shown how they can avoid making it*. That is the kind of bitter people I am up against.


Although I pursue *progress through cooperation and not competition* these people have made that guiding tenet *impossible*.


They just can't let it go and move on. They need Lesta to forever be the person I was *way back then* (when I was very much new here) *and would like to cut me off from any possibility for growth*.


That is the kind of *spiteful people* I am up against who represent my "opposition".


These people hold Lesta to those past statements as though I am still asserting them today *when I don't*. These people hold Lesta to past mistakes as though I am still making them today *when I am not*.


These people are so hateful and spiteful that a person could joke in a video that they had killed someone and dumped the body in a river and these time-wasting agitators would then forever replay that excerpt and shout: "ADMISSION TO MURDER! MURDERER!!"


The kind of statements I made back in May of 2015 (such as you can see in the attached image) *remain public because I am not hiding from them*. And there is a reason for that. From the very outset my intention has been to leave a trail of "breadcrumbs" so that other good, honest and intelligent people who are on the same path can pick up the trail at any point and arrive at a correct understanding of the lie system *even quicker* than if they had to figure it all out for themselves (or had to make all of the same mistakes for themselves).


Everyone can see how Lesta has gone from A to B. *When I started out I had never made video presentations before nor written any public posts*. I have had to learn almost everything from scratch and I did so as I went along.


Lesta has made mistakes *AND NOT HIDDEN FROM THEM* so that others do not have to. Everyone can see how my thinking has advanced over time yet the *jealous haters* (for that is what they are) insist I still think and believe those things from the past *when in reality I do not and my thinking has advanced significantly*.


These haters are the kind of fools who would take the infantile scribblings of Picasso as a child and then use them as "evidence" that his later works are to be ignored, disregarded or destroyed.


*I have long since left these worthless people in the dust*.


In time I will present a more thorough outline that describes how my thinking has progressed from A to B. How I went from calling events like the "Nepal earthquake" a "hoax" *to my present understanding of the "lie system"* and how I have since *risen above* the *planned dichotomy* of "Hoaxtard" versus "Realtard".


It is a planned dichotomy where the people I once looked up to - people like "Dave Johnson" and "Jeff C" ["NWA"] - have remained very much stuck. *Those contemptible people have made no meaningful progress* for they *still* accept and reject events *for the wrong reasons*.


I hit the ground running on January 1st, 2015 and I have not stopped. I have not remained "stuck" in the planned dichotomy that has trapped almost everyone else.


Those who are good, honest and intelligent and have kept up with my writing over the past couple of years will already know how I got from A to B. My upcoming explanation will be to get others up to speed.


I already know that 100% of haters, dummies and dishonest people alike will ignore what I have to write because they need to cling to those early "glory days" when Lesta did go about calling events "hoaxes" (though often it was done to grab attention much like a "click bait title" does - which is something my haters are also fond of doing) *even though I am not doing that today and it has been a very long time since I did*.


It is as amusing as it is sad that people like "Jeff C" and "BzTruetalk" - two people who ADMIT they have shifted their own thinking over time - are free to move on with their thinking but not Lesta.


"Bz" often talks about how he used to have "conspiracy beliefs" but no longer has them. Although he never tells us what those beliefs once were would he be okay with people relentlessly following him around saying: _"You used to believe X and Y!"_. Of course he wouldn't be okay with it but that's the *double standard* that comes with the territory.


People like "Jeff C" and "Bz" do not have *bitter* and *spiteful* people who are relentlessly digging up *fossilised statements* which are no longer asserted and with which the thinking has long since been advanced. It happens to Lesta because unlike *most people* I am open with my thoughts and generous when sharing my thinking process (even with those who claim they hate me).


*It happens to me because I have indeed made mistakes in the past _and I have not sought to hide them nor from them_*.


It could be the year 2050 and there'd still be *black-hearted psychopaths* like "Surfpurzel" who would tell anyone and everyone who will listen that *_"Lesta is a 'hoaxtard' who claimed that the 'Nepal earthquake' was a 'hoax' - can you believe that? What a hoaxtard! You should ignore everything that Lesta has to say!"_*.


When it comes to these bitter and spiteful people you are held to *everything* you have *ever* written. *But if that is true then why aren't they holding me to what I am writing today*? _Oh - but that's not convenient_.


Rather than deal with what I am saying today (and have now been saying for a long time) what they do is shift the goal posts and hold me to whatever I FIRST had to say about something.


Not unlike holding a child to whatever its FIRST WORDS as a baby were! Or holding an adult to whatever was said as a child.


*These haters live in a fantasy world where they are free to make as many mistakes as they like - _and learn from them_ - but everyone else whom they hate is not afforded the same luxury*.


Well it's not my fault that these spiteful people need to be stuck so far in the past. Sure - these people have "opinions" but they are now *worthless opinions that no longer have relevancy to the current conversation*.


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_A link to the comment thread that featured in the screenshot:_
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_For the only people who matter here:_
+nationalparksign and +Terran Downvale


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*TEXT FROM THE SCREENSHOT FOR INDEXING PURPOSES:*

Lesta's approach at the time was to troll a number of very popular videos to point out that the presented footage did not stand up to scrutiny so that "normal people" would be exposed to the possibility of manipulation.



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