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  2. Sam Thomas <sam.thomas.sym@gmail.com>
  3. yamatough <yamatough@terra.com.ve>
  4. 07 February 2012, 02:57:47
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  8. Ten minutes is not enough time. 
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  10. 2012/2/6 yamatough <yamatough@terra.com.ve>
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  12. there is no time
  13. yes or no
  14. PC anywhere is ready to be distributed
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  28. 07 February 2012, 02:46:43
  29. 10 minutes
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  32. We can't make a decision in ten minutes.  We need more time.  
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  34. 2012/2/6 yamatough <yamatough@terra.com.ve>
  35.  
  36. Since no code yet being released
  37. and our email communication wasnt also released
  38. we give you 10 minutes to decide which way you go
  39. after that two of your codes fly to the moon PCAnywhere and Norton
  40. Antivirus totaling 2350MB in size (rar)
  41. 10 minutes if no reply from you we consider it a START
  42. this time we've made mirrors so it will be hard for you to get rid of
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  57. yamatough <yamatough@terra.com.ve>
  58. 07 February 2012, 00:13:42
  59. ?
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  62. We've looked into Liberty reserve and offshore accounts.  These options wont work.  We want to protect our code but we need other options.  
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  64. 2012/2/6 yamatough <yamatough@terra.com.ve>
  65.  
  66. your silence considered as No
  67. r we clear?
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  79. yamatough <yamatough@terra.com.ve>
  80. 02 February 2012, 04:27:14
  81. say hi to FBI
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  84. We are not in contact with the FBI.  We are using this email account to protect our network from you.  
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  87. Protecting our company and property are our top priorities.   
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  89.  
  90. We can't pay you $50,000 at once for the reasons we discussed previously.  We can pay you $2,500 per month for the first three months.  In exchange, you will make a public statement on behalf of your group that you lied about the hack (as you previously stated).   Once that's done, we will pay the rest of the $50,000 to your account and you can take it all out at once.  That should solve your problem.
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  92.  
  93. Obviously you still have our code so if we don't follow through you still have the upper hand. 
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  95. 2012/2/1 yamatough <yamatough@terra.com.ve>
  96.  
  97. Say hi to FBI agents,
  98. It's funny you do not use your corp account anymore =)
  99. We wonder why is that be that way? =)
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  111. yamatough <yamatough@terra.com.ve>
  112. 02 February 2012, 00:28:33
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  116. So now what does this mean? 
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  118. 2012/2/1 yamatough <yamatough@terra.com.ve>
  119.  
  120.  I am afraid we have to cancel the whole deal because our offshore people
  121.  wont let us securely get the money because they wont process amounts less
  122.   than 50k a shot. Therefore we are afraid we can not proceed with you on the
  123.    conditions offered.
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  135. yamatough@terra.com.ve
  136. 01 February 2012, 09:14:10
  137. FW: Greetings
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  140. Here are the questions again. Very much looking forward to seeing the Chinese and Vietnam trades with Russia.
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  143.  
  144. From: Daniel, Frank J. (M Edit Ops)
  145. Sent: Sunday, 15 January 2012 12:05 AM
  146. To:
  147. Subject: Greetings
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  153. Hi Yama Tough, great to be in touch with you – you’ve really made some waves in the last week. As you say, India will do it’s best to downplay the whole thing, but seems to be getting harder to do that.
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  156.  
  157. Here’re are a few questions, with some requests thrown in (basically anything you want to share, I’ll dig in to!) :
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  160.  
  161. Do you have (and can I see) any of the data/code mentioned in the memo, such as Apple’s iOS? Mac OS X? Any versions of Windows? Did you take them and might you release them?
  162.  
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  165. If you are willing to show me I would of course observe any restrictions you might want.
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  168.  
  169. You have more evidence of India’s spying program – can I see some of that? I would love to be able to write about how extensive their activities are.
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  173. Is India very exposed to data security breaches?
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  176.  
  177. You mentioned Norinco executives talking about purchase from Raytheon. What else? Can I see some of that stuff?
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  180.  
  181. There is a lot of speculation the emails were intercepted by Chinese hackers – are you actually Chinese?!
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  185. I read through a lot of the emails you got from Reinsch et al, and would be happy to sift through as much data as you are willing to share.
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  188.  
  189. How exactly did India get hold of those emails and source code?
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  192.  
  193. Are you still in India’s networks? Which ones? Could you show me some stuff you’ve taken off recently?
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  196.  
  197. Is it fair to say that the memo from MI was a nifty cut and paste job that very successfully grabbed the attention of people like me and got the real hacks publicised?!
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  201. NEW ONE – If so, how did you really get the Symantec code, they are now admitting they were hacked in 2006. Was that you? Why are they only saying their PCAnywhere customers are at risk?
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  205. What can you tell me about YOU – are you Indian? In Mumbai or elsewhere? Is Lords of Dharmaraja you alone, or a group. Social backgrounds? Where did you study? Age? Gender? Favourite colour (! Joke.)
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  208.  
  209. If a group do you meet in person? What are your goals politically? Why the beef with Bharti and Symantec? Why did you single out Shantanu Ghosh?
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  213. Could we meet? would love to talk properly.
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  217. I’ll stop now – though could produce 50 questions more.
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  231. This email was sent to you by Thomson Reuters, the global news and information company. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Thomson Reuters.
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  239. Sam Thomas <sam.thomas.sym@gmail.com>
  240. yamatough <yamatough@terra.com.ve>
  241. 01 February 2012, 02:59:06
  242. please read carefully
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  245. Got your message.
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  248. We are still looking into Liberty Reserve but we have to figure out how to get our money safely into our Liberty Reserve account through an exchanger.  
  249.  
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  251. We will pay you $50,000.00 USD total.  
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  254. However, we need assurances that you are not going to release the code after payment.  We will pay you $2,500 a month for the first three months.  Payments start next week.  After the first three months you have to convince us you have destroyed the code before we pay the balance.  We are trusting you to keep your end of the bargain.  
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  256.  
  257. You know how the corporate environment works and we have to treat this like a business transaction.  
  258.  
  259. On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 12:26 PM, yamatough <yamatough@terra.com.ve>wrote:
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  262. No offence, nobody's trying to give you a hard time.
  263. We have a clear understanding on how things work inside corp environment.
  264. Do not send us any money (we do not use paypal period) do not send us any 1k etc.
  265. We can wait till we agree on final amount.
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  267. Please confirm that you received this message so we are not anxious.
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  280. yamatough <yamatough@terra.com.ve>
  281. 31 January 2012, 23:54:54
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  285. We already told you we are doing the best we can.  You threatening to release the code is not helping the situation. 
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  288. We've been looking into Liberty Reserve.  Looks like we have to use an exchanger to get money into our Liberty Reserve account.
  289. This is more complicated than we expected.   
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  292. Our plan was to get you $1,000 by the end of the week as a test and a sign of good faith but we don't know if we can make this work
  293. that quickly through Liberty Reserve. 
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  296. We've used paypal numerous times and we know how it works.  We can definitely send you $1,000 by the end of the week through 
  297. paypal until we can get Liberty Reserve setup for a large payment.  We will send the paypal payment to the yamatough@terra.com.ve
  298. email address on Friday.     
  299.  
  300. On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 5:50 PM, yamatough <yamatough@terra.com.ve>wrote:
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  303. there are no options but :
  304. Liberty Reserve (tell your people to look into their website www.libertyreserve.com and check how it works - its easy   we shall give you our account number within the LR system and you send money from your LR acct to ours) To put money on ya LR account you can do by wire transfer within the USA etc. just check the website
  305. this option is nice for you because it leaves the FATF and Anti Terror units behind and raises no suspicions like the Lithuanian transfer would.
  306. Wire transfer to a bank account in Lithuania or Latvia is also an option.
  307.  
  308. Above mentioned are the only ways to work it out.
  309.  
  310. We are afraid if you can not comply we proceed with the release.
  311.  
  312. What are the guarantees that we wont come back for more?   - NONE ofcourse, you have to trust us on this one, if we were really bad guys we would have already released or sold your code at the time of exchanging emails with you which is almost a month - AND WE KEPT SILENT all that time and stuck to our word given to you.
  313. So - No Guarantees - Trust Us - We wont come back and wont manipulate the code.
  314. At least it is worth a try and we assure you we are man of honor we keep our promise.
  315.    What you are going to get if no agreement reached? - We both know.
  316.            Partial release of code - Official Auction Bidding on some of it - 0day exploitation
  317.            That happens as soon as we understand your negative call.
  318.  
  319. As of files sent to you partially - we are getting tired of all this please do not make us more angry than we already are you know we got the full line so please nothing is going to be send to you once again.
  320.      Time's up - We are patient to get Positive or Negative from you. You have two options to complete Wire. And name the price. Period.
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  331. yamatough <yamatough@terra.com.ve>
  332. 31 January 2012, 05:22:24
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  336. We are really trying to work with you but we can't meet all the deadlines that you keep throwing at us.  We need approvals by a lot of people who all have different opinions.  This is the first time we've heard of Liberty Reserve and we are hesitant to just wire money straight to an offshore account.  
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  338.  
  339. You didn't provide all the files requested last time.  What assurances can you provide that once we pay, you will actually destroy the code and not ask for more money?  
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  342. Finance is asking us what offshore account it is and also how we could make a payment through liberty reserve.  Send us that info to give to them.  If they shoot these options down, do you have any other ways to accept your payment?
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  344.  
  345. We are willing to do what it takes to get our code back and protect our customers but we've never been in this position before.  Please be patient and we will find something that works for both of us.  
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  347. 2012/1/30 yamatough <yamatough@terra.com.ve>
  348.  
  349. you have 24 hours for a definite answer
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  361. yamatough <yamatough@terra.com.ve>
  362. 30 January 2012, 21:12:24
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  366. Before we can discuss a dollar amount, we need to figure out how the payment is going to be made.  
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  368. 2012/1/25 yamatough <yamatough@terra.com.ve>
  369.  
  370. We expect answer by monday.
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  382. yamatough <yamatough@terra.com.ve>
  383. 26 January 2012, 01:13:10
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  387. Bottom line, we need more time, at least 2-3 days.  This is not a simple process on our end.  
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  389. 2012/1/25 yamatough <yamatough@terra.com.ve>
  390.  
  391. We have a rule - and we always follow it:
  392.    If you are the owner - you have the right to be the first one
  393.    asked. That is why we kept silent at the time of negotiating with
  394.    you.
  395.    We stick to the word given and nothing is going to happen to the code
  396.    if we complete the deal.
  397.    Were we not that way we would have already sold your code to that
  398.    willing many.
  399.  
  400.    SO  - you told us a week ago that you've being requesting a
  401.    response from Fin dprtmnt. We got no answer for the below question
  402.    so far:
  403.            ?How much do you consider ENOUGH to pay us in order to
  404.            work all the issues out?
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  406.  
  407.            Name the price,
  408.  
  409.            Clock's tikin
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  424. yamatough <yamatough@terra.com.ve>
  425. 25 January 2012, 23:49:38
  426. ON SALE
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  429. We are not trying to trick you.  You said you had the PC Anywhere code and we were just being cautious.  What would you have us do? 
  430.  
  431. We really don't want our code out there.  How do you want to proceed. 
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  434. 2012/1/25 yamatough <yamatough@terra.com.ve>
  435.  
  436. If we dont hear from you in 30m
  437. we make an official announcement and put your code on sale at auction
  438. terms. We have many people who are willing to get your code
  439. Dont fuck with us
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  451. yamatough <yamatough@terra.com.ve>
  452. 25 January 2012, 05:38:08
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  456. we are having network issues with ftp on the standalone computer. we think we can have it ready tomorrow and will send you login details. 
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  458. On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 9:05 AM, yamatough <yamatough@terra.com.ve>wrote:
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  472. yamatough <yamatough@terra.com.ve>
  473. 24 January 2012, 05:39:49
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  477. we are trying to setup a stand alone computer so this doesn't affect our network.  we only want to ensure our environment is safe.  we will send you the ftp details tomorrow.
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  479. 2012/1/23 yamatough <yamatough@terra.com.ve>
  480.  
  481. If you are trying to trace with the ftp trick it's just worthless.
  482. If we detect any malevolent tracing action we cancel the deal.
  483. Is that clear?
  484. You've got the doc files and pathes to the files
  485. what's the problem ?
  486. Explain
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  498. yamatough <yamatough@terra.com.ve>
  499. 24 January 2012, 01:15:05
  500. it's monday
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  503. in the process of setting up a secure ftp site. should be ready today or tomorrow.
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  505. 2012/1/23 yamatough <yamatough@terra.com.ve>
  506.  
  507. It's monday...
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  519. yamatough <yamatough@terra.com.ve>
  520. 21 January 2012, 03:54:28
  521. updates samplez
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  524. the gmail account and the internal account are deleting the attachments.  working on another way to get these from you. hopefully will have a solution over the weekend or on monday.
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  526. On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 5:20 AM, yamatough <yamatough@terra.com.ve>wrote:
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  528.  
  529.  /depot/pcAnywhere/pcA-NG/Thin/site/deploy/remstart.exe
  530.       /depot/pcAnywhere/pca32/trunk/Design/12.5/Design - Smart Card Authentication.doc
  531.  
  532.      /depot/pcAnywhere/pca32/trunk/Design/12.0/Design - pcA Connection Server UIs.vsd
  533.     /depot/pcAnywhere/pca32/r12.0.2/Design/12.0/Design - pcA Connection Server UIs.vsd
  534.  
  535. In case you did not get the first email
  536.  
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  541. Esta mensagem foi verificada pelo E-mail Protegido.
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  546. Sam Thomas <sam.thomas.sym@gmail.com>
  547. yamatough <yamatough@terra.com.ve>
  548. 20 January 2012, 08:37:52
  549. updates samplez
  550. html
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  552. Give us through the weekend to figure out how to get these from you. We don't want these docs posted on a public site.
  553.  
  554. 2012/1/19 yamatough <yamatough@terra.com.ve>
  555.  
  556. your google acc rejects attachments so we sent it to sym addie
  557.  
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  567. Sam Thomas <sam_thomas@symantec.com>
  568. yamatough <yamatough@terra.com.ve>
  569. 20 January 2012, 00:32:11
  570. updates2
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  573. We need assurance on PCAnywhere. Because our email system strips large attachments, send sample files to this address where we can get attachments: sam.thomas.sym@gmail.com
  574. Send the following sample files:
  575. ft_advanced.rec
  576. Design - Smart Card Authentication.doc
  577. design - pca connection server uis.vsd
  578. remstart.exe
  579. 1151up.pcg
  580. We want:
  581. 1) Actual file
  582. 2) Path where you found file
  583. Esta mensagem foi verificada pelo E-mail Protegido.
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  590. Sam Thomas <sam_thomas@symantec.com>
  591. yamatough <yamatough@terra.com.ve>
  592. 19 January 2012, 22:04:59
  593. updates
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  596.  
  597. Management needs assurances. Your last email before today said “PCAN and NU got pub” - where did PCAN get pub?
  598. Esta mensagem foi verificada pelo E-mail Protegido.
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  605. Sam Thomas <sam_thomas@symantec.com>
  606. "yamatough@terra.com.ve" <yamatough@terra.com.ve>
  607. 18 January 2012, 03:11:37
  608. up to you
  609. html
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  611. Have to check with Finance people. We will contact you tomorrow.
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