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- ButterLord: Today's raw was just fanservice imo
- Aussie_Blade: But we don't lose either way with Seth vs Balor
- ButterLord: True, but the outcome is obvious
- Super Saiyan User: Lose if Balor.
- Super Saiyan User: Seth is the man.
- Super Saiyan User: Balor is not.
- ButterLord: Balor was looking pretty ripped today
- Super Saiyan User: Seth backstabbed his way to the top and proved himself.
- Super Saiyan User: Balor is some NXT rookie.
- ButterLord: True, Seth took a shortcut but he turned out pretty legit
- Super Saiyan User: Yeah, honestly when it was Shield I dismissed Seth Rollins as the 3rd bar.
- Aussie_Blade: what shortcut? he didn't cheat
- Super Saiyan User: But he's honestly the best out of all of them.
- Aussie_Blade: it is a damn storyline
- ButterLord: During the shield Seth was just there ya know
- Super Saiyan User: Yes. In the storyline, he cheated.
- Super Saiyan User: Ergo, his character cheated.
- ButterLord: Shortcut = MITB
- Super Saiyan User: Seth Rollins the person and Seth Rollins the wrestler are not the same thing.
- ButterLord: We ain't talking bout his real self
- Super Saiyan User: Though to be fair, he's cool either way.
- ButterLord: I like seth's laugh, no homo
- Super Saiyan User: That's totally homo.
- Icerick1: Except for that dick pic, but we can forgive that.
- ButterLord: Vince can lol
- Super Saiyan User: It's like saying "no offense" but it's offensive.
- Super Saiyan User: I haven't seen it but man, bless.
- johnek: Balor isn't "some" NXT rookie. Mojo Rawley, is "some" nxt rookie
- Super Saiyan User: Everyone from NXT coming on to Raw with a week's worth of main roster and main fan support is a rookie.
- ButterLord: The dude Braun faced tonight literally had like no chin XD
- Super Saiyan User: Whether you like them or not.
- gimmedatseabear: Brauns theme sounded p cool
- Tato2772: balor was the shit in new japan how is he a rookie
- Super Saiyan User: Samoa Joe, for that matter, is some NXT rookie.
- johnek: You have to be out of your mind if you think Balor is on the same level as all the other NXT callups.
- Super Saiyan User: Because it's his first time on WWE Raw/Smackdown TV.
- Super Saiyan User: I'm saying his exposure makes him a rookie.
- johnek: Samoa Joe "some" rookie, you're fucking mental.
- Super Saiyan User: Yup.
- ButterLord: Sure you can call him a rookie as in he's new there
- Super Saiyan User: That's what I'm doing.
- ButterLord: But if its skill, nah
- Super Saiyan User: And you guys are getting all defensive.
- Tato2772: its like aj styles
- Super Saiyan User: Lol.
- Tato2772: he isnt a rookie
- Super Saiyan User: Yeah, AJ Styles is a rookie.
- Super Saiyan User: But he's not now.
- Segmr~: why are you biting the bait
- Segmr~: lol
- Super Saiyan User: He's been there a couple months.
- johnek: The operative word is "some". Not all NXT callups are equal.
- Super Saiyan User: Yes they are.
- Segmr~: guys please dont feed the gremlins after midnigth
- ButterLord: cough Emma cough
- Super Saiyan User: Segmr, I am not trolling...
- johnek: So Finn Balor is Mojo Rawley's equal?
- ButterLord: raw to smackdown
- Super Saiyan User: In terms of screen time and presence to people who only watch Raw/Smackdown, yes johnek, he is.
- Super Saiyan User: He needs to build a new following.
- Super Saiyan User: All over again.
- Super Saiyan User: Earn the crowd's respect.
- Super Saiyan User: No different for AJ Styles. If he has a reputation it'll be easier, but you still have to start from the bottom up.
- ButterLord: I'm surprised how much less the crowd booed Roman
- Tato2772: just turn roman heel godamn
- johnek: Enough of the live crowd watches nxt so that the segments that don't watch it follow their lead and go CRAZY when the NXT fans go crazy for people who were beloved on NXT.
- Icerick1: Considering Mojo only got one segment and Balor got two matches, in terms of screen time Balor > Mojo still
- Icerick1: lol
- johnek: That's why Enzo and Cass climbed faster than other NXT teams
- ButterLord: Smackdown hasn't even been on lmao
- Super Saiyan User: Like I said jonek, if you have a big reputation it'll make it easier.
- Super Saiyan User: But your matches still start with jobbers etc. till you climb the exposure later.
- johnek: And therefore, you admit that not all NXT rookies are equal
- Super Saiyan User: No.
- Super Saiyan User: I never did.
- Super Saiyan User: I admitted they all start at the same starting point.
- Super Saiyan User: That's equality.
- johnek: "Like I said jonek, if you have a big reputation it'll make it easier."
- Super Saiyan User: Make it easier.
- Super Saiyan User: Yes.
- Super Saiyan User: But that says nothing about starting from the same finish line.
- Super Saiyan User: Nice trying to twist my words, brah.
- johnek: If they were equals, they would all have it equaly hard
- ButterLord: Enough of this bull bull, lets talk bout that dude Braun faced
- johnek: That was a copy and paste; no twisting
- Super Saiyan User: Or, they would start from the same starting point.
- Super Saiyan User: Yes, you took it out of context.
- johnek: No i did not
- ButterLord: Sunny Boi
- Super Saiyan User: LOL.
- Super Saiyan User: Okay then.
- feisb8 恶人: can't believe that finn wins
- Icerick1: How about that honorary New Day member
- Super Saiyan User: I won't feed your trolling ass. You're just looking to bicker.
- Icerick1: Sonny BOI
- %DjのDrake8: I'm pretty glad for Kebab
- %DjのDrake8: he finally got to be on raw
- Super Saiyan User: Sonny Boi wasn't even his real name. ;_;
- ButterLord: Sonny Boi in dah house!
- Segmr~: Super Saiyan User ok look no
- johnek: You are just too stubborn to admit when your wrong and you rage when you lose.
- %DjのDrake8: living his dream
- Super Saiyan User: Rage?
- Super Saiyan User: johnek, pm.
- Segmr~: i get trolls are an important part of the ecosystem
- johnek: no
- Super Saiyan User: Why not?
- Segmr~: but please dont negate it
- Super Saiyan User: You want to argue, argue.
- Segmr~: dont bait then copout
- Super Saiyan User: But don't use your bias ecosystem to do your work for you.
- Super Saiyan User: I'm not copping out.
- Tato2772: just ignore him guys
- Super Saiyan User: I'm literally attempting to not flood the chat.
- Segmr~: im offended by his poor attempt at bait
- Super Saiyan User: That's a thing that happens in PS chats.
- Aussie_Blade: ignore who? I've already blacklisted SSU
- ButterLord: Dang son
- Segmr~: that's not how blacklist works
- Segmr~: that's a different thing
- Super Saiyan User: I'm kinda salty you call me a troll because I disagree with what you say and then dismiss my opinions. But that's besides the point. I'm not wrong because you say I'm wrong. That's not how being wrong works, johnek.
- Aussie_Blade: blacklist on games is basically an ignore function
- Aussie_Blade: at least on MMO
- Aussie_Blade: s
- Segmr~: i'd say ignore technically works differently but since the button was added it is kinda like that
- Segmr~: cept without there being an actual list
- Super Saiyan User: Equality is everyone having the same chance. They start from the same neophyte stage and work their way up. It's no different for any of them. Watch when Balor loses and goes back to hitting up people jobbing for him.
- Segmr~: lol equality in wwe
- ButterLord: Tbh Equality done not exist in wwe
- johnek: THANK YOU
- Tato2772: nah man tyler breeze hasnt gotten the same treatment ko got or balor is getting
- ButterLord: cough emma cough
- Super Saiyan User: Tyler Breeze didn't get any reaction from the crowd even if he was the best wrestler in the world.
- Segmr~: emma is different
- Super Saiyan User: Simple as that.
- Segmr~: emma got fucked
- Super Saiyan User: I wonder if Emma did get fucked.
- Segmr~: well
- Segmr~: yeah
- johnek: Breeze was liked in NXT but not nearly to the level that Balor and KO were
- Tato2772: by vince
- Segmr~: her back is her back
- Super Saiyan User: Sure but johnek when they started people who don't watch the program have no clue. It's why the whole audience didn't raise their hand with Balor when he came out the second times to face Reigns.
- Super Saiyan User: People knew what to do by then, but he hasn't won them over.
- johnek: Still, I can't believe that Fabreeze is kinda working for him
- Super Saiyan User: It's not because they have no clue how to engage his pops. It's because they aren't sure if they like him or not.
- Segmr~: they dropped him in without any build
- johnek: All of the NXT fans almost all act like plants that get everyone else in the crowd into the new NXT callups. It gets them over much more quickly.
- Segmr~: because they forgot that vignnettes exist and why are they important
- Super Saiyan User: Segmr~, not disputing that.
- Super Saiyan User: All I'm saying is that he didn't pop like he would in NXT because he's starting over on a new show with a new broader audience.
- Super Saiyan User: "plants" or not.
- Segmr~: also
- Descepticons♥: dang
- ButterLord: Enough about equality!
- Descepticons♥: romans buried
- Super Saiyan User: NXT is mostly wrestling fanboys.
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