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[19:10:16] <bigbadjudas> well, i disagree on the whole finite resource thing
[19:10:25] <Prot> theres no arguing with 'prove that they aren't secretly planning to ...' type people, because thats something you can't disprove
[19:10:25] <bigbadjudas> i think its probably a natural product of the planet
[19:10:26] <catsup> bigbadjudas: biting the $12/gallon bullet SOONER will always mean LESS PAIN than waiting for it to reach that price later
[19:10:30] <ibsapien> When has the US ever limited itself to strikes.
[19:10:39] <Prot> ibsapien: libya
[19:10:45] <catsup> they aren't secretly planning it
[19:10:48] <catsup> they're planning it right out in the open
[19:11:12] <ibsapien> And why the fuck should we be involved in Syria?
[19:11:32] <catsup> bigbadjudas: that does not mean it is not finite
[19:11:34] <bigbadjudas> and i also don't think it needs to be conserved for environmental reasons, i think they just artifically drive up the price to control population growth as much as possible and to exploit the work of people
[19:11:34] <ibsapien> it's almost like a sexual fetish
[19:11:43] <ibsapien> this NEED to be up in peoples faces in the mid-east
[19:11:44] <catsup> wow
[19:11:45] <Prot> ibsapien: to save lives, end tyrrany
[19:11:49] <Prot> some people care about that, even if you don't
[19:11:59] <ibsapien> The fuck you care about saving lives.
[19:12:03] <ibsapien> Look at Abu Ghraib
[19:12:08] <Prot> 7500 civilians dead in syria
[19:12:14] <Prot> oooooooooh! you got me there
[19:12:15] <bigbadjudas> however..
[19:12:16] <catsup> bigbadjudas: sorry, but, that is ignorant
[19:12:19] <ibsapien> US soldiers staging dead corpses with guns so they can write them off as terrorists.
[19:12:33] <bigbadjudas> i do think extracting too much oil from the earth might have some sort of geological effect on the planet
[19:12:38] <ibsapien> America has never given a shit about saving lives, or freedom or any of that bullshit.
[19:12:49] <ibsapien> It's about strategic control, directing oil.
[19:12:50] <bigbadjudas> i think it might serve as a sort of lubricant for tectonic plates and such
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[19:12:59] <bigbadjudas> so it might be a bad idea to go overboard with that
[19:13:04] <catsup> bigbadjudas: they are doing everything they can to drive the price DOWN
[19:13:12] <catsup> even to the extent, of doing so irresponsibly
[19:13:30] <ibsapien> And by this time next year, we will be invading Iran.
[19:13:31] <catsup> are you trolling
[19:13:43] <bigbadjudas> no
[19:14:05] <ondebonde> the shame about our oil consumption, it that without oil global food production would be reduced by 50%. with a global population which is still increasing. UN predicts it will first stop around 9 billions in 2070. if that would be the case, its clear we should start proserving oil for future food production
[19:14:21] <Prot> oil is a world commodity. you can't change the price without changing the world. *more importantly* oil is not in demand and is over supplied. These are facts that are forgotten when talking about reducing the price of gas
[19:14:30] <catsup> right now most oil is wasted on inefficient transportation
[19:14:41] <ibsapien> Oil's going to run out regardless.
[19:14:48] <ibsapien> You'd better work on population control.
[19:14:59] <Prot> no, you better work on alternative fuel
[19:15:03] <Prot> and stop attacking obama for his initiatives
[19:15:04] <catsup> we need to encourage rapid adoption of high-efficiency transportation
[19:15:13] <ibsapien> Obama is a piece of shit.
[19:15:14] <catsup> by taxing oil at 200%
[19:15:21] <ibsapien> And he will be a 1 term president.
[19:15:23] <Prot> i see way too many people in here talking about solyndra
[19:15:34] <catsup> or at least tax oil as much as europe
[19:15:42] <catsup> usa is going insane in per capita oil use
[19:15:54] <catsup> it's like easter island here
[19:16:03] <catsup> collective madness
[19:16:26] <Prot> also gotta stop attacking obama for his milage initiative. saw that a lot in here too
[19:16:32] <Prot> i think people are starting to get over that one though
[19:16:36] <ondebonde> in norway (which is top10 oil exporter) we pay 10+ dollars per gallon
[19:16:46] <catsup> attacking obama for _that_ is being absurdly trivial
[19:16:56] <Prot> quite
[19:16:57] <ondebonde> like most european countries
[19:16:58] <bigbadjudas> i'm probably wrong about the lubricant idea
[19:17:09] <Prot> whoa, whats the topic?
[19:17:26] <ondebonde> General Strike May 1st?
[19:17:29] <ondebonde> ;)
[19:17:46] <bigbadjudas> not gonna happen
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[19:17:58] <Prot> no one cares about gas prices. its noise
[19:18:02] <Prot> people spend more on starbucks
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[19:18:33] <Prot> republicans are going to use gas prices as their primary reelection platform, other than that, no one cares
[19:18:42] <catsup> fucking hell
[19:18:57] <catsup> really?
[19:19:02] <cloe-isagirl> other than...that's al they got.
[19:19:05] <cloe-isagirl> +l
[19:19:22] <catsup> darth_raijin: don't get sucked in
[19:19:47] <bigbadjudas> Lawsuit Alleges FEMA Funded by Laundered Drug Profits
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