irc paste: Quarto's game

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[02:14] <Brian_> Testing.
[02:14] <Brian_> Oh my god I can actually see what I type.
[02:14] <Brian_> Damn my connection.
[02:15] <Brian_> ...So did anything happen after I said 'moses'?
[02:15] <Alexis__> Brian maybe try using a different irc client
[02:15] <Alexis__> lol I never saw you say moses
[02:15] <Brian_> ...Damn!
[02:15] <Brian_> I'm just using the default...
[02:16] <Brian_> Honestly, my whole connection dies. It's not just this window.
[02:16] <Sean_> You guys ever solve something like this before? Cause im stumped pretty bad
[02:16] <Brian_> Okay, so, after Sean brought up Tabart, what happened?
[02:16] <Alexis__> oh
[02:16] <Brian_> (Or is there a history function I can root through or something?)
[02:17] <Alexis__> here I will paste it
[02:17] <Brian_> Thank you.
[02:17] <Alexis__> here: http://pastebin.com/Q6hHyqC0
[02:19] <Brian_> Okay. Well, I mentioned (though my connection died like a bitch and nobody saw it), that the thing makes me think 'Moses'.
[02:19] <Alexis__> it sounds like something religious
[02:19] <Brian_> Sun-baked land, clear set of rules from 'on high', and an easily associated number.
[02:19] <Alexis__> but hes not an englishman
[02:20] <Brian_> Yeah, and I don't know how he would be 'beastly' either.
[02:20] <Brian_> Searching 'beastly englishman' brings up Churchill.
[02:21] <Brian_> He's an englishman, and he apparently did military service in Cuba and South Africa, so 'sun-baked land'.
[02:21] <Sean_> I don't think google has the same definition of beastly
[02:21] <Brian_> How do you think Quarto means it?
[02:22] <Sean_> In the rugged not too clean or caring way
[02:22] <Brian_> Supporting evidence?
[02:22] <Alexis__> so he has to be beastly, english, connected to a sun-baked land, and have some sort of religious connotation
[02:23] <Alexis__> or if not religious, whatever the whole decree part is about
[02:23] <Brian_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleister_Crowley
[02:23] <Brian_> English, dead, mountaineer, founded a religion, famously said "Do what thou wilt"
[02:24] <Sean_> That is perfect
[02:24] <Alexis__> it also says he was the "great beast"
[02:24] <Brian_> Plus he went to Mexico and India.
[02:24] <Brian_> Which were apparently religious experiences for him.
[02:24] <Alexis__> so what about a number?
[02:25] <Sean_> Also old as hell and called the great beast 666
[02:25] <Alexis__> so 666 maybe?
[02:25] <Brian_> That seems most likely.
[02:26] <Sean_> multiply it by 4 you get 2664
[02:26] <Sean_> place 4 in front and it turns to 4266
[02:27] <Sean_> I guess that's our number
[02:27] <Alexis__> okay, nice
[02:28] <Brian_> What about the next part?
[02:28] <Sean_> shit wait
[02:28] <Sean_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/93_(Thelema)
[02:28] <Brian_> Result is 237.
[02:29] <Brian_> I would think that this is the number; 666 is associated with a lot of things, but 93 is specific to Crowley.
[02:29] <Sean_> Yeah
[02:29] <Alexis__> but is it "his number", thats the only part I'm worried about
[02:30] <Brian_> Reading the page, 93 directly relates to central principles of the religion he founded.
[02:30] <Sean_> Also it comes out to 327 which is unchanging with the second smallest number rule
[02:31] <Brian_> Apparently he signed letters with "93 93/93"
[02:31] <Brian_> Followers of his religion would use 93 as a greeting.
[02:32] <Alexis__> okay
[02:33] <Brian_> Let's move on to the next paragraph.
[02:33] <Brian_> I can dig up info on oilseeds easy enough, does anyone have any ideas what the heck and 'orange white and yellow' monster would be?
[02:34] <Alexis__> or "pathway of creatures"
[02:34] <William_> Chester the Cheetah
[02:34] <Sean_> I was thinking it would be a country but I couldn't find any flags like that
[02:34] <Brian_> Not a bad angle.
[02:35] <Alexis__> well its kind of late for me, I'm going to bed
[02:35] <Alexis__> what time will you guys be on tomorrow?
[02:36] <Sean_> Night Alexis, I'll be on probably 2 and a half hours before whatever time you have now
[02:36] <Alexis__> Okay, I'll probably be on a few hours before that until about now
[02:36] <Alexis__> goodnight
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[02:38] <Sean_> Ohh got something with the orange yellow and red crap
[02:38] <Sean_> white not red wtf
[02:38] <Brian_> What is it?
[02:38] <Sean_> Bhutan, this is their flag
[02:38] <Sean_> http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/1355072/Bhutan-flag-of
[02:39] <Brian_> Well, it's certainly a monster.
[02:39] <Brian_> Could either dragons or Bhutan be described as 'wandering' or 'inquisitive'?
[02:40] <Sean_> They were an isolated country for a long time, going to look more into that
[02:40] <Brian_> Also, I doubt it's the answer, but it isn't difficult to find Canola oil that comes in orange and/or white packaging.
[02:41] <Brian_> And canola oil is derived from rapeseed, rape of course being monstrous, and the flowers of rape plants being yellow.
[02:43] <Sean_> This is not an easy riddle
[02:44] <Brian_> No, it is not.
[02:45] <Sean_> Im going to see if the number 372 means anything in the thelema numerology
[02:46] <Brian_> Before doing that, check out castor oil plants: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b9/Ricinus_communis_DSC_0022.JPG
[02:46] <Brian_> And the oil itself is yellow.
[02:47] <Sean_> Yeah but where does the white come from and what about the green in the plant
[02:48] <Brian_> There are white speckles on the pods or whatever those are.
[02:48] <Brian_> And I dunno how castor relates to any of the rest of it.
[02:50] <Sean_> The wandering monster part is really agitating
[02:50] <Brian_> I'm, stuck on the pathway of creatures bit.
[02:50] <Brian_> Why don't we try another angle.
[02:51] <Brian_> What brings connection, but doesn't come free?
[02:51] <Brian_> All I can think of is an ISP.
[02:51] <Sean_> Information maybe?
[02:52] <Sean_> For what you dont know wont hurt you but what you do certainly will, the price is pain?
[02:53] <Brian_> A connection and knowledge gained through pain. Childbirth?
[02:54] <Brian_> Is there anything we can learn by analyzing the riddle itself?
[02:54] <Brian_> Like, looking at how the pieces of it might fit together?
[02:55] <Sean_> I've tried that but haven't had much luck on my own
[02:55] <Brian_> Line 13 strikes me as interesting: we have to 'apply' our calculation to the 'oilseed of yore'?
[02:55] <Brian_> What the heck could that mean? How do we take a number and 'apply' it to a plant?
[02:56] <Sean_> I think you may be onto something with the childbirth
[02:57] <Sean_> Pregnancies are sometimes measured in terms arent they?
[02:58] <Sean_> The number might have some signifigance in Thelema that applies to pregnancy or childbirth
[02:58] <Brian_> 9 months / 3 trimesters.
[02:59] <Sean_> I know I've heard term used when talking about pregnancy
[03:02] <Brian_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pregnancy#Preterm.2C_term_and_postterm

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