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  1. Pastebin nade by voluntaryloser
  2. My response (yehet21)
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  4. " https://epicmafia.com/game/4110052
  5. yehet is blue. 5 other ruse members. the first mafia ruse is bandwagoned without any actual resistance d1. yehet: "imhere always sucks up to a town so when he flips mafia the person he sucks up to gets lynched so i dont think imhere and snow same team." snowflake: "yeah." as imhere is being lynched he makes reads which contradict eachother (emilie is town forty seconds before lynch emilie). day 2 a bandwagon on kats is started by poe i guess. again no resistance. kats gives up and says ye ml me. "
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  7. When I quoted that Imhere always sucks up to a town when he flips mafia, it seemed as though i was using meta, but I was just referencing to the common mafia strategies I know. Even you've stated that logical reasoning was used to decide on a mislynch on kats.
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  9. https://epicmafia.com/game/4110074
  10. yehet is blue. snowflake (cop) is the only other ruse member. snowflake reads yehet town, yehet never reads snowflake before she gets OTd to by mikeyru.
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  12. I don't see what's suspicious/fishy in this game. You can review any other comp games and find that I rarely explicitly state my reads. Plus, this proves to show that no rolesharing is taking place whatsoever. If I knew snow was cop, why wouldn't I townread her?
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  14. https://epicmafia.com/game/4112084
  15. yehet is gunsmith. 2 other ruse members. snowflake says to massclaim and then claims gunsmith. yehet says "bullsh*t snow" but then accepts the claim and doesn't push it for fear of the illusionist shot. snowflake doesn't mention anything about the illusionist, or say that she's townreading yehet, or do anything that hints to yehet that this is a roleswap. snowflake gets shot by the illusionist and town goes into autowin
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  17. Like you said, I didn't cc in fear of an illusionist shot. I thought that she may have been fishing for real gunsmith to cc her. The fact that illusionist actually shot has nothing to do with me. It was his/her fault that she believed that real gunsmith would actually claim when illu hasn't shot yet.
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  19. https://epicmafia.com/game/4112291
  20. yehet is blue. 2 other ruse members. snowstache (snowflake alt) wins game as mafia. non-ruse people hammer town twice for a mafia win
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  22. I clearly lost due to bad hammers by non-ruse. Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure I did not explicity scumread snow in this game, showing that meta has not taken place.
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  24. https://epicmafia.com/game/4112356
  25. https://epicmafia.com/game/4112356
  26. yehet is bleeder. 2 other ruse members. sonrio shoots yehet d1. messi4life gets a gun day 3, they offer for the gunsmith to lead the shot, gunsmith refuses, messi rereads for 30 seconds and shoots snowstache for the town win
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  28. Messi had a 50% chance to shoot mafia correctly. How the heck would shooting right be fishy? Tonnes of people have defied odds and hammered correctly in 1/7 situations. Plus, you could see that she re-read and thus scumread snow and shot her.
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  30. https://epicmafia.com/game/4112828
  31. yehet is blue. 3 other ruse members. the non-ruse town vote emiliewu (town), the ruse town vote prezabama (mafia). emiliewu claims dreamer, votes are kicked, yehet caps spams to get prezabama to selfvote. prez selfvotes when she was the lynch being pushed alternatively to the dreamer and could have hammered the dreamer who would otherwise just die that night
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  33. I was asking preza at the end to self vote instead of losing dreamer if she was town. It would be better to lose dreamer+blue than dreamer+potential pr. I have absolutely no idea why she complied when she was mafia, but that has nothing to do with me and I even read her as town at the end. (Hence why I asked her to self vote if she was town)
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  35. https://epicmafia.com/game/4112930
  36. yehet is cop. 2 other ruse members. emiliewu is godfather and yehet gets the 1 in 7 to investigate vanilla mafia germpot. messi is clear in final 3 and flips reads back and forth for 10 minutes before hammering emilie.
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  38. I don't see anything fishy with investigating vanilla mafia night 1. I've played another comp game this round when cop has done exactly that. You can check my other games as cop in this setup and find that this has only happened once. The fact that messi read back and forth for 10 minutes WITH a ruse player in play shows that no meta has taken place. Messi could've used meta to instantly hammer emilie, but she clearly had to take time to reread.
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  40. https://epicmafia.com/game/4113366
  41. yehet is blue. 2 other ruse members. burtonx tells partner to stalk yehet and leads the night kill, but wins after back-to-back mislynches involving yehet tunneling snowstache. burtonx doesn't do much all game but responds to a line about him getting hammer because of the potential vote pattern by saying, "I dont think I should get hammer. / let yehet hammer <3."
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  43. If I had used meta in this game, wouldn't I have scumread burton instead of potentially giving him hammer? Wow and the fact that I tunnelled snowstache when she was town shows that I had incorrect reads and did not use meta to clear her and infact scumread her instead.
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  45. https://epicmafia.com/game/4113493
  46. yehet is dreamer. 3 other ruse members, all town. two non-ruse people vote emiliewu for a few seconds and no ruse people hop on. bandwagon on thiradell (mafia) goes through with no resistance. yehet's dream d2 confirms the mafia to be in the 2 non-ruse players and kats. she says it's useless and doesn't even want to out it. then a non-ruse player tells yehet that it would clear someone and she says, "oh / OH / so its not bad / wooo." "i dont want a kats lynch / shes my tr out of you three." then there's a weird reaction test yehet uses on kats which i wouldn't expect to work for an actual read. then they lynch one of the other two and win.
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  48. This was probably one of the first times I've ever flipped dreamer in comp. I genuinely didn't know that my report would be useful because in my mindset, I was thinking that since all the people in the dream were on alive, it would be useless as mafia was also alive. I don't see what's fishy about not wanting to lynch someone, I was just playing my role and leading as clear.
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  50. https://epicmafia.com/game/4115729
  51. yehet is governor. 4 other ruse members. imhereandyournot votes yehet as the night one kill then stanleyj says "no / dont be mean" and they kill orly. kats is lynched d1. n2 imhere and stanley kill the second to last blue. imhere ccs cop, they lynch him, and the next day prezabama hammers stanley between him and a non-ruse for a town win. This looks like one of the more legitimate games, but it was the only one yehet played between when she got the request to stop playing games with ruse people and the time when she wouldn't be allowed to play them.
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  53. The thing about not being mean is because I was previously n1ed like quite a few times in a row.
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