16:12	NeverAgain	Okay. 3... 2... 1... THE START OF THE FIRST ATLASIAN JOINT CONGRESSIONAL SESSION!
16:12	NeverAgain	MEMBERS SIGN IN!
16:12	NeverAgain	x NeverAgain
16:12	HSTruman	>bangs gavel<
16:12	Scott	x Scott
16:12	NorthernGovernor	im a guest right
16:12	TedBessell	x tedbessell
16:12	HSTruman	Yep
16:12	Peebs	x Peebs
16:13	NorthernGovernor	x me
16:13	Goldwater	x Goldwater
16:13	RepSG	x SouthernGothic
16:13	Sirena	x Siren
16:13	Scott	Is Blair or Yankee coming?
16:13	HSTruman	I think Blair plans to drop in
16:13	NeverAgain	Blair will likely
16:13	NeverAgain	but in any case, he delegated me to represent presidential interests
16:14	NeverAgain	CONFLICT OF INTEREST deeply disturbing.
16:14	NeverAgain	okay
16:14	TedBessell	leinad ought to be in here at some point
16:14	NeverAgain	scott
16:14	NeverAgain	can you grab the marijuana bill
16:14	NeverAgain	he will I assume.
16:14	TedBessell	i suppose i'm the leading fed here lol
16:14	NeverAgain	PiT 2!
16:14	NeverAgain	also
16:14	Scott	Sure, lemme pass the blunt, er bill
16:14	NeverAgain	since we have a major lab (or leaning)
16:14	NeverAgain	I want to get unanimous approval if we can
16:15	PiT1	x PiT
16:15	NeverAgain	to ensure that all sides are represented fairly
16:15	PiT1	I had to go do something really quickly
16:15	NeverAgain	np
16:15	PiT1	but I'm back now
16:15	Scott	http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=245326.msg5264710#msg5264710 Here's the version we passed.
16:15	NeverAgain	okay folks
16:15	HSTruman	As a reminder, if the House amends the original bill, it must be passed again by the Senate
16:16	Scott	Indeed.
16:16	NeverAgain	Joint Congressional Bill 1001 is now open for debate.
16:16	RepSG	What is the current precedence about the power of federal and regional governments?
16:16	Scott	So I don't believe the Senate would have to pass the bill again even though it's from two sessions ago, correct?
16:16	HSTruman	correct
16:17	NeverAgain	correct
16:17	NeverAgain	but again
16:17	Goldwater	Well, this bill seems pretty straightforward.
16:17	RepSG	Because I don't know if this should be a federal issue
16:17	PiT1	well there are federal drug laws
16:17	NeverAgain	^
16:17	HSTruman	As the person currently in charge of enforcing federal drug laws, I support this bill
16:17	PiT1	this is decriminalizing it federally
16:17	Scott	Well, the bill reschedules pot.
16:18	RepSG	Could the individual regions choose to maintain the prohibition?
16:18	Scott	Yes.
16:18	PiT1	regions reserve the right to do otherwise
16:18	RepSG	Alright then I've got no issue with it.
16:18	TedBessell	i have no problem with this whatsoever
16:18	Scott	But by passing this, the feds won't be able to intrude on regions that have legalized it, which the North and I believe the South have done.
16:18	TedBessell	ofc
16:18	Goldwater	^
16:18	Goldwater	(Ted)
16:18	PiT1	I support the bill as is
16:19	RepSG	What about regions that haven't legalized or, have decided to enforce the prohibition again?
16:19	Scott	I assume it would vary by state.
16:19	RepSG	But the legislation wouldn't conflict with that?
16:19	Scott	I think we still have imaginary "states" with non-playable legislatures.
16:20	RepSG	Hypothetically if the South decided to criminalize it again
16:20	Scott	Remember, the bill doesn't legalize it nationwide.
16:20	RepSG	This legislation wouldn't prevent that?
16:20	Sirena	So basically this is just saying no one will be brought to federal court for pot related things?
16:20	Scott	Correct.
16:20	NeverAgain	it's taking things off the federal books
16:20	TedBessell	so, to summarize
16:20	NeverAgain	not adding on to the regional ones.
16:20	Scott	And regions can't be forced to do anything either way.
16:20	HSTruman	Scott	I think we still have imaginary "states" with non-playable legislatures.   <-- Per the GM, this is correct
16:21	TedBessell	it just says the feds won't act and delegating it to the regions to do as they please
16:21	Scott	All right.
16:21	PiT1	my only reservation
16:21	NeverAgain	It's just saying "hey DEA stop it.:
16:21	RepSG	Okay I've got no problem with this
16:21	PiT1	and it's a small one
16:21	PiT1	is that decriminalizing this might be the prerogative of the executive
16:21	PiT1	not sure on that point
16:21	TedBessell	hm
16:21	HSTruman	Hmm...
16:22	Scott	I think either the Congress or the executive makes that call, but the bill would make it harder for the president to undo rescheduling.
16:23	Scott	Suppose Blair reschedules, but a President Classic Conservative (God forbid) repeals the executive order.
16:23	HSTruman	Personally, I would rather that power lay with the legislature anyways
16:23	NeverAgain	^
16:23	TedBessell	lol
16:23	HSTruman	^
16:23	TedBessell	this does seem like something that should be enshrined to me
16:23	HSTruman	agreed
16:24	RepSG	I think that we should still give the executive that option though
16:24	PiT1	if the executive does not complain then that does commend the bill
16:24	TedBessell	whether you go to jail or not shouldn't depend on who's in power
16:24	RepSG	We shouldn't be neutering the power of the executive branch
16:24	Sirena	Yeah I think the legislature can have input on how things are enforced
16:24	PiT1	^
16:24	PiT1	(RepSG)
16:24	NeverAgain	should this go up for renewal?
16:24	Scott	So you want to remove scheduling powers from the executive altogether?
16:24	NeverAgain	sunset period?
16:24	Scott	@RepSG*
16:24	Scott	#RepSG
16:24	TedBessell	that makes sense NeverAgain
16:25	NeverAgain	my amendment
16:25	NeverAgain	if i were to make one
16:25	HSTruman	Given that this bill would require the president's signature, I don't think this can be termed "neutering the executive"
16:25	RepSG	I don't think we should remove scheduling powers from the executive
16:25	RepSG	True ^
16:25	NeverAgain	would be to have a 6 month reauthorization period from the Congress.
16:25	PiT1	it would neuter future executives, though
16:25	Scott	Yeah, but it would prevent future presidents from undoing it without Congress.
16:25	TedBessell	yes, i think six is reasonable
16:25	PiT1	also it might be vetoed and pass on an override
16:25	RepSG	But how would this effect successive administrations?
16:25	PiT1	being hypothetical
16:25	TedBessell	if we have the sunset period
16:26	TedBessell	each new executive has to re-commend the scheduling
16:26	NeverAgain	if we want to assure that it will be not solely with the executive.
16:26	Scott	Why do you want to sunset it?
16:26	NeverAgain	I am suggesting that as an alternative
16:26	NeverAgain	so that the legislature has the power on renewal
16:26	NeverAgain	versus the president.
16:27	Scott	So the legislature would be required to reassess the drug codes every six months, NeverAgain...?
16:27	Scott	Er, Congress.
16:27	irc.uk.mibbit.net	Peebs invited dfwlibertylover into the channel.
16:27	NeverAgain	no... just this bill.
16:27	NeverAgain	on the scheduling of marijuana.
16:27	Scott	I don't see why that would be necessary.
16:27	irc.uk.mibbit.net	TedBessell invited dfwlibertylover into the channel.
16:27	HSTruman	I don't think introducing that kind of uncertainty is a good thing
16:28	NeverAgain	well if the worry is that it would change corresponding to the president
16:28	Sirena	I'm not sure what the point of the bill would be if we added that part
16:28	Goldwater	Yeah, I don't like that idea
16:28	HSTruman	Especially since this bill also legalized the sale of maijuana
16:28	NeverAgain	k. it's just a thought.
16:28	Sirena	ugh my mouse is dying
16:28	NeverAgain	it does?
16:28	NeverAgain	the sale?
16:28	TedBessell	ouch Sirena
16:28	Goldwater	Where does it say that?
16:28	NeverAgain	^
16:28	RepSG	^
16:29	HSTruman	3. No region, state, territory, or locality shall be required to prosecute the possession or sale of marijuana.
16:29	NeverAgain	but is that federally legalizing?
16:29	Scott	Yeah, again, it's neutral toward regional powers.
16:29	HSTruman	So not strict legalization per se, but opening the door for it
16:29	RepSG	As long as we maintain the power of the regions, this is acceptable
16:29	Sirena	its legal in the South.  not sure about other regions
16:29	PiT1	federal plays no part
16:30	PiT1	but the regions can do whatever with it
16:30	HSTruman	okay
16:30	Scott	It would be legal federally, but not necessarily in the state you take your hits in.
16:30	NeverAgain	I see that less as a legalization and as a regional thing on sec. 3.
16:30	NeverAgain	anyways
16:30	NeverAgain	are we all good house?
16:30	NeverAgain	any other comments or thoughts before we move to a vote.
16:30	Sirena	are people typically tried in federal courts for this?
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16:30	dfwlibertylover	13:30	dfwlibertylover	I am not a member of the House people
16:30	dfwlibertylover	why do you want me in here
16:30	Scott	Wait wait wait, we're voting on legislation here?
16:30	TedBessell	neither is mike but he's here anyway
16:31	NeverAgain	yes.
16:31	TedBessell	so
16:31	dfwlibertylover	mike is a low energy loser
16:31	Scott	That's... not legal, I don't think.
16:31	NeverAgain	this is a joint session
16:31	PiT1	lol
16:31	dfwlibertylover	the south is better than the north
16:31	PiT1	hey dfw
16:31	Scott	heh
16:31	NeverAgain	That's why I suspended house rules.
16:31	HSTruman	^
16:31	TedBessell	yes
16:31	NeverAgain	http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=255511.msg5452361#msg5452361
16:31	dfwlibertylover	I will observe but I will not say anything because I am not in the Congress
16:31	Scott	All right, hope that's Constitutional.
16:31	NeverAgain	sounds good
16:31	HSTruman	It is
16:31	NeverAgain	the constitution puts it unto the house rules
16:32	HSTruman	Per Article III, Congress has the power to establish and amend its rules
16:32	NeverAgain	^
16:32	Scott	Oh, okay.  Good to go, then.
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16:32	NeverAgain	kk
16:32	NeverAgain	okay
16:32	NeverAgain	we ready folks?
16:32	Goldwater	'm ready
16:32	PiT1	ready
16:32	RepSG	Ready
16:32	NeverAgain	Okay. let me just get up until here in the pastebin
16:32	TedBessell	okie dokie
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16:33	PiT1	hey Leinad
16:33	HSTruman	Hi Leinad
16:33	Sirena	Hi Leinad
16:33	NeverAgain	VOTING ON HB 1068 "Ending Federal Marijuana Protecting Act of 2016", Sponsor Scott. Please vote Aye [ ], Nay [ ], or Abstain.
16:33	TedBessell	now it's a party
16:33	TedBessell	AYE
16:33	NeverAgain	GODDAMN IT LEINAD!
16:33	PiT1	Aye
16:33	NeverAgain	Aye!
16:33	Peebs	hi leinad
16:34	Leinad	good afternoon everyone
16:34	RepSG	Leinad!
16:34	Sirena	Aye
16:34	Leinad	Aye
16:34	Peebs	aye
16:34	RepSG	Aye
16:34	HSTruman	I don't think Senators should be voting on this
16:34	Goldwater	AYE
16:34	HSTruman	since it has already passed that house
16:34	Leinad	lol Truman right
16:34	NeverAgain	eh
16:34	NeverAgain	they can
16:34	NorthernGovernor	left for a bit
16:34	NeverAgain	I was going to put it in
16:34	PiT1	rules are suspended
16:34	PiT1
16:34	NeverAgain	just so people can
16:34	Leinad	I mean
16:34	NorthernGovernor	It looks like marijuana is passed
16:34	Peebs	*left* for a bit
16:34	NeverAgain	show their opinions
16:34	Scott	Aye, if I'm able to.
16:34	Leinad	not officially
16:34	HSTruman	Right, but the Constitution isn't
16:34	TedBessell	rules were meant to be suspended
16:34	NeverAgain	okay folks
16:34	NorthernGovernor	that's good
16:34	NeverAgain	lol ted
16:34	NeverAgain	kk
16:34	NeverAgain	lemme update
16:35	GOVERNORdfw	order order this house is chaotic I command you to bow down
16:35	HSTruman	That's 6 in favor, none opposed in the House
16:35	Goldwater	Make me!
16:35	NorthernGovernor	who let dfw in here
16:35	HSTruman	Peebs
16:35	GOVERNORdfw	who let the northern LOSER governor in here
16:35	Scott	lol
16:36	NorthernGovernor	who's yelling like a 5 year old on a temper tantrum
16:36	Leinad	Peebs with the lapse in judgement!
16:36	Leinad
16:36	GOVERNORdfw	I am writing a bill now to invade the north and claim it in my name
16:36	TedBessell	i am writing a bill now
16:36	TedBessell	to tell you to shut up
16:36	HSTruman	GOVERNORdfw, did you like the Sherman Necktie I sent you for Christmas?
16:36	Peebs	i am writing a bill now to make half of you use the scissors
16:36	GOVERNORdfw	yes thank you HSTruman
16:36	RepSG	That's not nice Truman
16:37	NeverAgain	The vote has passed 5 (7) - 0
16:37	Scott	woo
16:37	NeverAgain	This bill will now go to the President
16:37	NeverAgain	okay!
16:37	GOVERNORdfw	HSTruman knows I was born in the north technically
16:37	NeverAgain	off to a good start
16:37	TedBessell	rad
16:37		--- Goldwater is away (Away)
16:37	NeverAgain	so what I am doing
16:37	Sirena	nice
16:37	NeverAgain	is to have the paste bin for everything
16:37	NeverAgain	and then have a notepad
16:37	GOVERNORdfw	RepSG stole it from me and burned it though
16:37	NeverAgain	just for the bills and votes
16:37	NeverAgain	sound good?
16:37	TedBessell	i'll be back in a few minutes
16:37	NeverAgain	kk
16:37		--- TedBessell is away (Away)
16:37	Scott	We might want to live-update the thread
16:38		--- TedBessell is back
16:38	TedBessell	that would be great.
16:38		--- TedBessell is away (Away)
16:38	NeverAgain	Okay1
16:38	NeverAgain	ugh
16:38	NeverAgain	!*
16:38	PiT1	if I'm not needed to vote on these bills
16:39	PiT1	I can go for a walk
16:39	PiT1
16:39	Leinad	an enthusiastic walk?
16:39	Sirena	is it nice weather there?
16:39	PiT1	most certainly
16:39	PiT1	yeah
16:39	Peebs	women's lasers
16:39	NeverAgain	one sec guys
16:39	NeverAgain	okay
16:39	NeverAgain	I need to do one thing
16:39	NeverAgain	talk amongst yourselves
16:39	PiT1	I'm just saying, I'm really interested to know if Senator votes will be counted for these House bills
16:40	RepSG	What is the next piece of legislation on the docket?
16:40	PiT1	if they're not, then I could be doing other things
16:40	Scott	We need to figure out that abortion bill thing.
16:40	RepSG	I will be back momentarily. I hope to be back in time for the abortion bill
16:40	Leinad	yeah, make sure SG's back for that
16:40	Leinad	it would be rude to not!
16:41	RepSG	^
16:42	NeverAgain	okay
16:42	NeverAgain	I was
16:42	NeverAgain	moving a couch
16:42	NeverAgain	and piano
16:42	NeverAgain	ugh
16:42	NeverAgain	I hate moving
16:42	NeverAgain	anyways
16:42	NeverAgain	okay
16:42	NeverAgain	let's getta going
16:42		--- TedBessell is back
16:43	NeverAgain	ok
16:43	NeverAgain	see
16:43	NeverAgain	the problem was
16:43	PiT1	moving stuf is rough
16:43	PiT1	*stuf
16:43	PiT1	*stuff
16:43	NeverAgain	that both clark and tmth
16:43	NeverAgain	sponsored it in each house
16:43	PiT1	lousy f-key
16:43	NeverAgain	and one amended
16:43	NeverAgain	and one didn't.
16:43	Scott	It was amended a billion times, don't forget.
16:43	NeverAgain	^
16:43	NeverAgain	then that happened
16:43	HSTruman	Whichever house voted first is the original house
16:43	Leinad	that f-key makes you go
16:43	NeverAgain	so we are voting on the 2nd version
16:44	Leinad	"shit"
16:44	NeverAgain	that passed the senate
16:44	Peebs	lol
16:44	NeverAgain	before the 2nd house amendments
16:44	Leinad	yeah that bill has been around for a while
16:44	NeverAgain	okay.
16:44	NeverAgain	I think I understand
16:44	NeverAgain	un momento por favor
16:44	TedBessell	i remember talking about what we could do to pass that bill
16:44		--- Goldwater is back
16:44	Goldwater	Did I miss much?
16:44	TedBessell	and whether jomcar would support it
16:44	TedBessell	lol
16:44	Leinad	I remember talking about it before I was President
16:44	Peebs	god my hair keeps falling into my ramen
16:45	NeverAgain	so wait
16:45	NeverAgain	SHITTTT
16:45	NeverAgain	that was also before my amendments
16:45	NeverAgain	but it after was with AZ's amendments
16:45	NeverAgain	UGGGG
16:45	Leinad	ah
16:45	HSTruman	Hold on, what?
16:45		--- Goldwater is away (Away)
16:45	Scott	I wonder if it would be easier just to scrap the bill and start over.
16:45	HSTruman	^
16:46	NeverAgain	okay
16:46	Leinad	I propose we make some sort of thing for this
16:46	NeverAgain	http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=247196.0
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16:46	NeverAgain	this is the bill that is currently in the house
16:46	NeverAgain	Okay
16:46	NeverAgain	reupdate
16:46	Leinad	like, a Committee To Figure Out What The Fuck To Do About The Abortion Bill
16:46	Peebs	RIPSG
16:46	HSTruman	Why on earth were both houses debating and amending the same bill simultaneously?
16:46	NeverAgain	because both tmth and clark
16:46	Peebs	endorsed leinad
16:46	NeverAgain	sponsored it
16:46	Leinad	probably no one told them not to?
16:46	NeverAgain	inside their own houses
16:46	HSTruman	Agh!
16:47	NeverAgain	so now we are at square -923
16:47	TedBessell	um
16:47	TedBessell	um
16:47	TedBessell	.
16:47	Scott	So now these bills don't even have a sponsor.
16:47		--- Goldwater is back
16:47	Peebs	gooa pick up the mail brb
16:47	Peebs	*gotta
16:47		--- Peebs is away (mail)
16:47	NorthernGovernor	24th week sounds a little too much
16:47	NeverAgain	they have clark and tmth as sponsors still
16:47	HSTruman	16:47	Scott	So now these bills don't even have a sponsor.
16:47	HSTruman	Aren't they dead, then?
16:48	Leinad	surely not?
16:48	NeverAgain	no
16:48	Sirena	Anyone can sponsor if they want
16:48	NeverAgain	they have clark and tmth as sponsors still
16:48	Scott	Unless someone else takes them up, which I would advise against even if you support the bill because it's such a clusterfuck.
16:48	NeverAgain	i understand
16:48	NeverAgain	but they still are being held
16:48	HSTruman	Right, but isn't there some rule that if there is no sponsor for a week, the bill is tabled?
16:48	NeverAgain	because house rules have them that sponsors cannot still be there
16:48	HSTruman	That's how it was in the old Senate, anyways
16:48	NeverAgain	but does senate
16:48	Scott	Shit, I don't have the rules in front of me.
16:48	NeverAgain	so tmth is still sponsor then?
16:48	NeverAgain	I haz house rules
16:48	NeverAgain	but wait
16:49	NeverAgain	I didn't suspend that part
16:49	NeverAgain	so it still stands
16:49	NeverAgain	anyways
16:49	NeverAgain	I say let's just put that off for a special committee
16:49	NeverAgain	for a tomorrow leg.
16:49	TedBessell	yeah
16:49	Scott	The abortion bill?
16:49	NeverAgain	yeh
16:49	NorthernGovernor	actually this bill is not good
16:49	Scott	Okay.
16:49	TedBessell	we have more important things to do than procedural crap
16:49	NeverAgain	it's either dead
16:49	HSTruman	I'm starting to agree w/ Scott that the best course would be to reject the current bill and start over
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16:50	NeverAgain	or it's scraping for life.
16:50	TedBessell	hi classic
16:50	PiT1	hey Classic
16:50	NeverAgain	^
16:50	Classic	Hi
16:50	Scott	Hello Classic
16:50	Goldwater	Hi Classic
16:50	Leinad	hey Classic
16:50	NeverAgain	okay
16:50	Sirena	Hi
16:50	NeverAgain	update
16:50	NeverAgain	okay
16:51	NeverAgain	marijuana done
16:51	NeverAgain	abortion confusing
16:51	NeverAgain	what next
16:51	NeverAgain	house bills?
16:51	NeverAgain	let's do the constitutional amendments
16:51	TedBessell	you're the one with the spreadsheet
16:51	NeverAgain	those will be quick
16:51	NeverAgain	I have like 20 tabs open
16:51	HSTruman	http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=254309.msg5441488#msg5441488
16:52	TedBessell	lmao
16:52	TedBessell	most i've ever had is sixteen
16:52	HSTruman	^List of bills requiring action by House and/or Senate
16:52	Leinad	is that a small number?
16:52	NeverAgain	kk
16:52	Sirena	the immigration bill is in the senate too
16:53	Scott	We could really use Yankee or Clyde in here because we don't have anyone leading the Senate...
16:53	NeverAgain	eh
16:53	NeverAgain	let's just go down the chain
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16:53	NeverAgain	http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=253406.0
16:53	RepSG	Back y'all
16:53	NeverAgain	hey sg
16:53	Goldwater	WB SG
16:53	Leinad	wb
16:53	TedBessell	wb
16:53	HSTruman	Scott is the most senior Senator, right? That makes him Dean of the Senate, IIRC
16:53	Scott	Hey SG
16:53	Leinad	also where are the Adams?
16:53	RepSG	Did we do the abortion one?
16:53	NeverAgain	no
16:53	HSTruman	Too complicated
16:53	Scott	Oh yeah, Cris left the Senate right?
16:53	NeverAgain	it's too confusing rn
16:53	TedBessell	yes
16:53	HSTruman	yes
16:53	NeverAgain	we're waiting
16:53	TedBessell	he was replaced by llr
16:54	NeverAgain	oh shit
16:54	NeverAgain	I was pming cris
16:54	NeverAgain	instead
16:54	NeverAgain	lol.
16:54	Scott	haha
16:54	RepSG	Can someone send me a link to the abortion bill? I just want to look over it
16:54	Goldwater	lol
16:54	NeverAgain	I feel dumb.
16:54	TedBessell	tbh i wouldn't mind having him in here
16:54	NeverAgain	sg
16:54	TedBessell	but yeah we need llr
16:54	Scott	Which abortion bill, RepSG?
16:54	Scott	Which version, I mean.
16:54	NeverAgain	the problem is we don't know what we're on
16:54	NeverAgain	here's what I think we're at
16:54	Leinad	LLR is online now
16:54	Scott	Actually, no, we're putting that off for tomorrow.
16:54	NeverAgain	http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=247196.msg5293624#msg5293624
16:54	NeverAgain	PM him
16:54	NeverAgain	someone
16:54	NeverAgain	I will
16:54	Leinad	so bring him on and we'll have 4 of 6 Senators
16:54	NeverAgain	i gues
16:54	Leinad	alright
16:55	RepSG	Whichever one we were going to do today Scott
16:55	Leinad	both for good measure
16:55	Scott	Hopefully there aren't any ties.
16:56	NeverAgain	I pm'd him
16:56	HSTruman	NeverAgain, do we want to move ahead with the Constitutional Amendments now?
16:56	Goldwater	I think NeverAgain's goal is to make everything unanimous
16:56	NeverAgain	I was thinking so
16:56	NeverAgain	just to get them outta the way
16:56	HSTruman	The Virginia Amendment has passed the Senate and is being debated by the House
16:56	NeverAgain	yep
16:56	NeverAgain	okay
16:56	TedBessell	you know
16:56	NeverAgain	you got link?
16:56	TedBessell	she's in #southernchat rn
16:56	TedBessell	i could get her in here
16:56	Sirena	I'd like to get Virginia in here for that
16:57	Goldwater	^
16:57	HSTruman	The House Seats amendment passed the House, passed the Senate w/ amendments, and now goes back to the House for a 2nd vote
16:57	TedBessell	pm'd her in irc
16:57	NeverAgain	okay
16:57	HSTruman	excellent
16:57	NeverAgain	let's do House Seat
16:57	NeverAgain	just until she gets here
16:57		--- Peebs is back
16:57	Peebs	yo
16:57	HSTruman	That's a simple up-or-down vote; shouldn't take long
16:57	NeverAgain	http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=252977.0
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16:58	Classic	SMILO!
16:58	Leinad	hey Smilo
16:58	NeverAgain	OKAY, NOW DEBATING HB 1069 "The House Seat Reduction Act".
16:58	HSTruman	This is the final version passed by the Senate: http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=252977.msg5418434#msg5418434
16:58	smilo	Motion to suspend the rules and allow visitors
16:58	NeverAgain	ohhh
16:58	NeverAgain	sorry
16:58	NeverAgain	yeh
16:58	NeverAgain	that
16:58	NeverAgain	wuz amendment i'm a derp
16:59	Peebs	everyone and their mom is coming in here wow
16:59	Scott	Hi Smilo
16:59	RepSG	Smilo! Mama!
16:59	NeverAgain	okay
16:59	smilo	Scott! in IRC! This is crazy!
16:59	NeverAgain	fyi, for you non-reps and sens
16:59	NeverAgain	please don't interruipt
16:59	TedBessell	yes
16:59	NeverAgain	or leave and hand in #SouthernChat
16:59	NorthernGovernor
16:59	Goldwater	I don't know if I really like the idea of a 7 member house.
16:59	Leinad	okay, I'll keep quiet
16:59	NeverAgain	hang*
16:59	Classic	I'm not going to we have the other chat for that
16:59	TedBessell	we'll hit you upside the head with the gavel
16:59	Leinad	crap...
17:00	RepSG	I think the number of representatives is good as is
17:00	HSTruman	^
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17:00	Sirena	Yeah I'm not as keen on the change as I was originally
17:00	Peebs	^ (sg)
17:00	Peebs	hi virginia
17:00	NeverAgain	hey virginia
17:00	Scott	Hey Virginia
17:00	RepSG	We should be focusing on recruitment and bringing new folks in rather than removing positions and seats
17:00	Virginia	hey
17:00	NeverAgain	http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=252977.msg5418434#msg5418434
17:00	RepSG	If this is an issue of population and activity
17:00	NeverAgain	this is the bill the house (and senate) are debating
17:00	Virginia	i'd like to offer thoughts on activity
17:00	Scott	Recruitment is easier said than done.
17:00	HSTruman	Quite true
17:01	TedBessell	yes
17:01	RepSG	I have an idea on the subject of recruitment
17:01	Virginia	Can't we get stickies in high traffic areas that we can light up once in a while, particularly close to elections?
17:01	HSTruman	Even so, I don't think we're quite at the point where we need to be cutting House seats
17:01	RepSG	But I'll save it for a more appropraite time
17:01	Virginia	high traffic forums*
17:01	Scott	IIRC, the last time Atlasia had a recruitment effort is when some troll decided to go to Stormfront and ask them to join in.  I'm dead serious.
17:01	HSTruman	We've had four elections for the HoR so far
17:01	Virginia	lmao scott
17:01	HSTruman	all 4 have been competitive
17:01	RepSG	^ Truman
17:02	Peebs	wow
17:02	Sirena	That's a good idea, though I'm not ssure if everyone on the forum would like it
17:02	NeverAgain	I was against, then for it. But considering the most recent election
17:02	NeverAgain	which was decided by literally one vote
17:02	NeverAgain	I am against it.
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17:02	TedBessell	the elections are very, very competitive
17:02	Leinad	competitive, but hard to find people to run
17:02	TedBessell	which is good
17:02	Leinad	(behinds the scenes take)
17:02	NeverAgain	of course
17:02	Scott	Yeah, and most House members don't campaign.
17:02	HSTruman	^
17:02	NeverAgain	^
17:02	TedBessell	lowkey we had a hard time filling our slate out last cycle
17:02	Scott	Or all the candidates pour in at the last minute.  It's a shitty way of doing things.
17:02	NeverAgain	the same for us
17:02	TedBessell	seems like you did too
17:03	NeverAgain	yeh
17:03	NeverAgain	it really is
17:03	TedBessell	we almost had vacancies
17:03	NeverAgain	but I don't think 7 members will really help.
17:03	NeverAgain	like.
17:03	TedBessell	which is bad
17:03	NeverAgain	I understand the rationale
17:03	NeverAgain	but 9 is a good number
17:03	Scott	Since we're on the subject, Virginia, you should consider running for House.
17:03	NeverAgain	^^^
17:03	HSTruman	^
17:03	RepSG	^
17:03	Goldwater	^
17:03	Peebs	^
17:03	TedBessell	^
17:03	Virginia	lol
17:03	Virginia	idk
17:03	Peebs	or better yet, president
17:03	Virginia	i'm not very invested
17:03	Peebs	virginia/peebs 2017
17:03	Scott	aw
17:03	NeverAgain	neither is like half the nation
17:04	NeverAgain	or congress
17:04	NeverAgain	aka the ones thataren't here
17:04	Peebs	you'll fit right in
17:04	Leinad	yep
17:04	Virginia	when i joined up i was feeling spry and active but i kept coming back and it seemed really dead
17:04	Virginia	i get the vicious circle thing here
17:04	Virginia	but still
17:04		--- Goldwater is away (Away)
17:04	Leinad	exactly
17:04	TedBessell	yes
17:04	Leinad	that's the problem with activity
17:04	NeverAgain	okay
17:04	NeverAgain	on the bill
17:04	Leinad	inactivity breeds more inactivity
17:04	NeverAgain	any other thoughts?
17:05	HSTruman	None from me
17:05	TedBessell	on the bill?
17:05	NeverAgain	yes the one we are debating
17:05	NeverAgain	http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=252977.msg5418434#msg5418434
17:05	Leinad	House seat reduction?
17:05	NeverAgain	http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=252977.msg5418434#msg5418434
17:05	TedBessell	i'm neutral, but it seems like things will work out fine either way
17:05	NeverAgain	ye
17:05	Leinad	make it 8
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17:05	TedBessell	which points me towards not making unnecessary changes
17:05	NeverAgain	k.
17:05	RepSG	What I want to know however
17:05	Peebs	RleInadP
17:05	RepSG	Is if it does pass, will we cut two seated representatives out?
17:06	NeverAgain	no
17:06	NeverAgain	it will take effect the next cycle
17:06	NeverAgain	I believe
17:06	TedBessell	i assume it would take effect after the nect election
17:06	RepSG	Okay cool
17:06	RepSG	Because the text doesn't specify
17:06	NeverAgain	every thing is assumed to be post facto
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17:06	NeverAgain	every thing is assumed to be post facto
17:06	NeverAgain	ugh
17:06	NeverAgain	shit
17:06	TedBessell	the thing about an 8-seat house is that because elections have been razor-close recently
17:06	Sirena	I mean it's not just a question about activity eeither.  There's other parts to it like... would a member house be better or worse than a 9 member house
17:06	NeverAgain	truman
17:06	Scott	I don't think it would be constitutional to arbitrarily change the number of seats mid-session, anyway.
17:06	TedBessell	we would probably have a tied house
17:06	Peebs	wb LIEnad
17:06	TedBessell	a lot
17:06	Leinad	make it 8 and let the VP tiebreak
17:07	Sirena	7 member*
17:07	Virginia	even-seated chamber doesn't seem like a good idea
17:07		--- Goldwater is back
17:07	Leinad	thus Making The VP Relevant Again (but not again because lol)
17:07	HSTruman	An even number of House seats is a really bad idea, to be frank
17:07	NeverAgain	^^
17:07	Scott	So just so we're clear, senators don't vote on this?
17:07	HSTruman	Leave it at 9, or go to 7
17:07	NeverAgain	okay
17:07	NeverAgain	let's talk
17:07	NeverAgain	I really want senators to vote
17:07	NeverAgain	so it can be joint
17:07	Goldwater	I think we should just keep it 9.
17:07	HSTruman	Also, THE HOUSE CANNOT PROPOSE AMENDMENTS ON THIS BILL
17:07	NeverAgain	but whatever you guys think
17:07	Scott	All right.
17:07	Sirena	With 7, there will be less people to debate and it would only take 4 people to pass a bill
17:07	RepSG	#WeNeedNine
17:08	HSTruman	lol
17:08	TedBessell	the more i think about it the more i like keeping it at nine
17:08	Leinad	I saw how hard it was to get 5 people to run as good as anyone did
17:08	Scott	I think nine is good, too.
17:08	NeverAgain	nine is fine
17:08	Leinad	while I doubt moving it to 7 would solve problems
17:08	NeverAgain	nifty nine
17:08	RepSG	So, vote?
17:08	NeverAgain	unsexy seven
17:08	NeverAgain	okaydoodle
17:08	Leinad	it would be slightly better in that regard, in my (apparently unpopular) opinion
17:09	NeverAgain	but on the issue of senators voting in house
17:09	NeverAgain	and house voting in senate
17:09	Scott	Sex-ty nine baby
17:09	NeverAgain	do we want that
17:09	Peebs	69 representatives?
17:09	TedBessell	i support raising the number of senators to 69
17:09	NeverAgain	and I'll just tally in the house vote
17:09	Scott	Aww yeah
17:09	TedBessell	and the number of representatives to 420
17:09	NeverAgain	and senate vote
17:09	Peebs	we don't have that many atlasians so
17:09	HSTruman	I don't think it's Constitutional for the Senators to vote in the House, or vice versa
17:09	NeverAgain	or just leave it only house on house bills and vice versa
17:09	TedBessell	screw it
17:09	Scott	Let's go with the Abraham Washington proposal of having more House seats than active forum posters.
17:09	NeverAgain	well the relationship between the senate has been suspended
17:09	TedBessell	if every atlasian brings four friends we can meet quorum
17:10	HSTruman	Y'all could vote at once, but tally the votes separately
17:10	Peebs	agreed scott
17:10	NeverAgain	that's what I was doing
17:10	Sirena	lol
17:10	NeverAgain	sound good?
17:10	NeverAgain	okay
17:10	HSTruman	In this case, however, only the House needs to vote
17:10	HSTruman	since this version of the bill already passed the Senate
17:10	NeverAgain	I mean for like new leg
17:11	NeverAgain	like house and senate vote together
17:11	NeverAgain	on these sessions
17:11	NeverAgain	anyways
17:11	NeverAgain	we can figure that out later
17:11	HSTruman	Right, makes sense
17:11	NeverAgain	OKAY
17:11	Leinad	if there's a way to do that Constitutionally
17:11	Leinad	I'm totally for it
17:11	RepSG	What if we had one representative
17:11	Scott	It all has to be open and transparent, which NeverAgain is making sure of.
17:12	Leinad	^^^^^
17:12	NeverAgain	VOTE ON HB 1069 "The House Seat Reduction Act" - Sponsor Clyde1998 - Vote Aye [ ], Nay [ ] or abstain (loser) [ ]
17:12	NeverAgain	leinad
17:12	NeverAgain	art 3 gives the power to congress to delegate in the rules
17:12	Scott	Aye.
17:12	NeverAgain	so
17:12	NeverAgain	I suspended the rules
17:12	RepSG	Nay
17:12	NeverAgain	some*
17:12	TedBessell	Nay
17:12	NeverAgain	Nay
17:12	Goldwater	NAY
17:12	Peebs	Nay
17:13	Sirena	Nay
17:13	Peebs	ugh it feels weird to use a capital letter
17:13	Goldwater	lol
17:13	NeverAgain	okay
17:13	NeverAgain	un momento por favor
17:13	NeverAgain	someone get PiT back
17:13	NeverAgain	while I do my thing
17:13	HSTruman	6-0 in favor in the House
17:14	HSTruman	Scratch that... 0-6 *against* in the House
17:14	Peebs	lol
17:14	HSTruman	Knew it was one of the two
17:14	Goldwater	lol
17:14	Peebs	dirty harry trying to pass bills against the house's will. sad!
17:14	HSTruman	I *did* promise bribes and threats
17:14	PiT1	hello
17:15	HSTruman	but rigging the vote is easier
17:16	NeverAgain	by 6 (7, Senate) - 0 (1, Senate). This fails.
17:16	NeverAgain	and goes back to the Senate
17:16	Leinad	Leinad silently mutters that 8 is best, followed by 7, and the House made a mistake on this...
17:16	NeverAgain	right
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17:16	NeverAgain	hey blair!
17:16	blair2015	Apologies for my late arrival
17:16	HSTruman	Right, now the Senate gets a vote on the original (House) version
17:16	Peebs	8>9>7 tbh
17:16	TedBessell	glair
17:16	Leinad	President Blair!
17:16	TedBessell	blair
17:16	Peebs	^
17:16	NeverAgain	we've finished 2 bills so far!
17:16	TedBessell	what up
17:16	Leinad	nice to see you here
17:16	NeverAgain	3*
17:16	Sirena	Hi Blair
17:16	Leinad	glair lol
17:16	NeverAgain	technically
17:16	Scott	Oh, hey Blair!
17:16	Peebs	Tony Glair
17:16	TedBessell	i'm GLAIRING at you rn
17:17	NorthernGovernor	Hail to the chief
17:17	blair2015	I don't actually have a vote in all this
17:17	NorthernGovernor	badadadadadadada
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17:17	RepSG	LLR!
17:17	blair2015	but I'll have it open as I do I my reading for my essay
17:17	TedBessell	sup
17:17	NeverAgain	YAY!
17:17	Sirena	Hey llr
17:17	Leinad	Senator!
17:17	Peebs	hey Llr
17:17	Goldwater	^
17:17	Llr	On Mt phone and presses for rimw
17:17	RepSG	MY BOY LLR!!!
17:17	PiT1	hey LLR
17:17	Llr	*time
17:17	NeverAgain	okay
17:17	NeverAgain	guys
17:17	NeverAgain	and gals
17:17	Leinad	you summited Mt. Phone?
17:17	NeverAgain	let's move to the senate
17:18	NeverAgain	for their vote on the first version
17:18	Peebs	i forgot there's more than one gal here
17:18	Llr	I was hiking in the desert acruakkt
17:18	HSTruman	Will you handle that, or should Scott?
17:18	Llr	*acrually
17:18	Scott	I can do it.
17:18	Peebs	my instinct to correct you when you're correct is a fucking hassle
17:18	TedBessell	ooh
17:18	HSTruman	Great
17:18	NeverAgain	either way
17:18	NeverAgain	one sec
17:18	Scott	Other senators are here, right?
17:18	NeverAgain	lemme get things
17:18	Llr	Hi
17:18	HSTruman	Yes, Leinad, LLR, and PiT
17:18	blair2015	just to check, has someone been doing a paste bin of all this
17:18	Scott	Oh, all right.  Are we all ready?
17:18	Leinad	every Senator but Clyde and Adam
17:18	NeverAgain	original version here?: http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=252977.msg5401448#msg5401448
17:19	NeverAgain	the one first passed by the house?
17:19	HSTruman	that's it
17:19	NeverAgain	kk
17:19	NeverAgain	there you go
17:19	NeverAgain	and scott
17:19	Scott	Wait, if the House killed it, it's dead, isn't it?
17:19	HSTruman	No
17:19	NeverAgain	we killed the amended version
17:19	HSTruman	The House passed the original version
17:19	Llr	Honestly I doubt I can be help
17:19	Scott	Ohhhh
17:19	NeverAgain	not the first one we passed
17:19	HSTruman	but rejected the amended Senate version
17:19	NeverAgain	one sec
17:19	NeverAgain	scott can you do the newest senate number
17:19	NeverAgain	like I did so we can sexify transparency.
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17:19	Scott	Which Senate number?
17:19	NeverAgain	ugh
17:20	Scott	Kind of confused here...
17:20	NeverAgain	llrip
17:20	NeverAgain	np
17:20	NeverAgain	it's like SB-1046
17:20	HSTruman	OK
17:20	NeverAgain	or whatever
17:20	NeverAgain	whatever the newest number is
17:20	Scott	Okay.  Are we ready, senators?
17:20	Leinad	yes
17:21	PiT1	I'm ready
17:21	Leinad	can we do this with only half?
17:21	NeverAgain	SB-1049 The Original House Seat Reduction Act
17:21	NeverAgain	idk why llr left
17:21	NeverAgain	someone pm him plz
17:21	NeverAgain	truman
17:21	Scott	VOTE ON SB 1046 "The House Seat Reduction Act" - Sponsor Clyde1998 - Vote Aye [ ], Nay [ ] or Abstain [ ]
17:21	NeverAgain	is this 1049?
17:21	Scott	Aye.
17:21	PiT1	Aye
17:21	TedBessell	probably just a spotty connection
17:21	Scott	Sorry, SB-1049
17:21	blair2015	LLR is in Arizona and told me earlier he'd have limited access
17:21	NeverAgain	gotcha
17:21	blair2015	Clyde is in hospital
17:21	TedBessell	wait
17:22	Leinad	link to this one?
17:22	NeverAgain	http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=252977.msg5401448#msg5401448
17:22	TedBessell	i just realized something
17:22	blair2015	Can I be a pain and ask for the paste bin of what we've done so far
17:22	TedBessell	not important
17:22	NeverAgain	one sec...
17:22	blair2015	or some sort of running log if we have that
17:22	Leinad	AYE
17:23	HSTruman	FYI, Article IX requires a 2/3 vote to pass Constitutional amendments, so unless LLR votes AYE, this will fail
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17:23	NeverAgain	http://pastebin.com/5SyNvFtP
17:23	NeverAgain	that's so far
17:23	TedBessell	oh, hi poirot
17:23	NeverAgain	I have the other one with everything going on
17:23	NeverAgain	hey poirot!
17:23	HSTruman	Hi poirot
17:23	Peebs	hi poirot
17:23	RepSG	Hey poirot
17:23	HSTruman	Are we waiting for LLR, or is Scott going to call the vote?
17:23	poirot	Hi, just came to see what is being discussed
17:23	PiT1	hey Poirot
17:24	Scott	Oh, shit, just realized he's not here.
17:24	Peebs	RockIP
17:24	Sirena	Hi
17:24	NeverAgain	wait for llr
17:24	Leinad	we're waiting for LLR
17:24	Scott	Has anyone invited him yet?
17:24	Leinad	I'm doing so now
17:24	NeverAgain	I'll PM him again
17:24	HSTruman	He was here for a bit
17:24	NeverAgain	ik
17:24	NeverAgain	he must've lagged out
17:24	NeverAgain	at the worst time too
17:24	Sirena	I think he might have left on his own, not sure >.>
17:24	NeverAgain	ugh
17:24	Scott	I'll wait a few minutes for him.
17:25	NeverAgain	5 minute recess?
17:25	NeverAgain	I need some foodies
17:25	Scott	Yeah.
17:25	Leinad	sure
17:25	NeverAgain	be back at 5:30 EST
17:25	Leinad	also same
17:25	Sirena	I've only got about 30 more minutes
17:25	Scott	And just so you guys know, I don't know when or how long I'll be available tomorrow.
17:25	Scott	I'll be here, I'm just not sure when.
17:25	Peebs	i'll use the recess too
17:25		--- Peebs is away (congressional recess tinkle break)
17:26	HSTruman	In case I'm not back at 5:30, a reminder:
17:26	HSTruman	17:23	HSTruman	FYI, Article IX requires a 2/3 vote to pass Constitutional amendments, so unless LLR votes AYE, this will fail
17:26	HSTruman	*referring to the House seats amendment
17:27	NeverAgain	but I guess what qualifies as a quorum.
17:27	Sirena	this joint session doesn't seem like a good time to hve votes on con. aamendments then
17:27	NeverAgain	okay
17:27	NeverAgain	then let's just say it's back in the senate
17:27		--- Peebs is back
17:27	NeverAgain	and put it on that when this session is over.
17:27	PiT1	I look forward to it coming up then
17:28	PiT1
17:28	NeverAgain	cuz it's not fair then
17:28	NeverAgain	okay
17:28	RepSG	What time are we meeting tomorrow?
17:28	NeverAgain	I was thinking same timeish
17:29	NeverAgain	dunno
17:29	Scott	Is it possible we could meet after 5 PM or so?
17:29	NeverAgain	when ever we can get the most people
17:29	NeverAgain	sure!
17:29	Scott	Thanks
17:29	TedBessell	i have a thing in the afternoon
17:29	TedBessell	which is your evening
17:29	TedBessell	so i might have to drop in late
17:29	Leinad	yes
17:29	Sirena	Tomorrow isn't gonna be so good for me
17:29	NeverAgain	again I wanted this to be a come and go type thing
17:29	Leinad	it is breakfast time for Ted now
17:29	NeverAgain	lol
17:29	Goldwater	lol
17:29	TedBessell	i don't have anything going on at midnight
17:29	Scott	If tomorrow won't work for people, then maybe the day after?
17:29	TedBessell	but i have something at noon!
17:30	RepSG	I have to drive back home on the second. I am not looking forward to that
17:30	PiT1	tomorrow won't work for me
17:30	TedBessell	#justtedthings
17:30	PiT1	Monday could work, time depending
17:30	NeverAgain	let's aim for Jan 1st? does that work?
17:30	RepSG	January 1st will be difficult
17:30	RepSG	Because I might start the drive on the first
17:30	RepSG	And it's a looooong trip
17:30	Peebs	i'm available every day
17:30	Scott	How much is left on the agenda for today?
17:30	PiT1	Sunday doesn't work for me either
17:30	NeverAgain	well
17:31	TedBessell	i'll be cooking on and off all day but can probably make time
17:31	NeverAgain	there are 3 more bills
17:31	TedBessell	word of advice
17:31	NeverAgain	that I wand done
17:31	NeverAgain	want*
17:31	TedBessell	when you're scheduling with a lot of people
17:31	Sirena	Are there any easy bills we could get done quickly?
17:31	NeverAgain	sure.
17:31	NeverAgain	there are a few house ones
17:31	TedBessell	it's best to just set a date where you know a lot of people can be there
17:31	NeverAgain	yeh
17:31	TedBessell	instead of trying to make it work for everyone
17:31	NeverAgain	this was pretty improptu
17:31	Leinad	sure
17:31	TedBessell	ik
17:31	Leinad	but sooner > later
17:32	NeverAgain	I thank everyone for being here tho
17:32	Scott	Yeah, I think this joint session was a good idea.
17:32	PiT1	Ted is right
17:32	NeverAgain	okay
17:32	PiT1	if a date doesn't work for me, it's alright
17:33	PiT1	I have a pretty tough schedule
17:33	NeverAgain	Senate
17:33	NeverAgain	let's do your thing
17:33	NeverAgain	SB 1050, I believe
17:33	NeverAgain	http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=249394.msg5359425#msg5359425
17:33		Leinad leans forward in chair
17:33	NeverAgain	this is back to you guys
17:33	Scott	So the amendment fails, then?
17:33	NeverAgain	we'll wait
17:33	NeverAgain	we'll just make it in the actual thread
17:33	Scott	Oh, Blair already signed that one.
17:34	NeverAgain	wait wot
17:34	Scott	The Foreign Relations thing?  That was signed.
17:34	NeverAgain	well he can sign another!
17:34	RepSG	^
17:34	NeverAgain	idk
17:34	NeverAgain	because
17:34	NeverAgain	this had amendments
17:34	Scott	Yeah, but the Senate passed the amended version.
17:34	NeverAgain	so we need you guys to revote
17:34	NeverAgain	orky
17:34	NeverAgain	nvm
17:34	NeverAgain	my faul;t
17:35	NeverAgain	I was following truman's tracker
17:35	NeverAgain	you guys good
17:35	NeverAgain	lemme go on to part two
17:35	NeverAgain	lemme go on to part too
17:35	NeverAgain	okay
17:36	NeverAgain	here you go
17:36	NeverAgain	the REAL SB 1050
17:36	NeverAgain	http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=249395.msg5400853#msg5400853
17:37	Scott	So we're voting on this next?
17:37	NeverAgain	i guess this'll be a quickie
17:37	NorthernGovernor	 /color
17:37	NeverAgain	lemme write things
17:37	RepSG	This should be easy
17:38	PiT1	I like the bill
17:39	Scott	Okay, so are the senators ready?
17:39	PiT1	sure
17:39	NeverAgain	SB 1050 - Anti-Terror Coalition Resolution
17:39	Leinad	http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=249395.msg5338236#msg5338236
17:39	Leinad	^Sirena makes very good points here
17:40	Sirena
17:40	RepSG	Yeah this a solid assessment
17:40	PiT1	indeed
17:40	PiT1	I am normally a hardcore dove
17:40	PiT1	ISIS is a bit of an exception, since we broke the pot
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17:40	Scott	brb
17:40	Leinad	yeah, it's tricky
17:40	TedBessell	just in the nick of time
17:40	Leinad	wb LLR!
17:40	Llr	I'm in here for a lil while
17:41	PiT1	but I am still concerned with what happens here
17:41	Llr	In a car
17:41	GOVERNORdfw	I actually voted aye on that resolution
17:41	NeverAgain	okay
17:41	GOVERNORdfw	when I was in the Senate
17:41	Peebs	WBLLR
17:41	NeverAgain	let's get this thing on
17:41	NeverAgain	OOO
17:41	NeverAgain	let's finish this
17:41	NeverAgain	scott
17:41	NeverAgain	can you do sb 1050 and then we can quickly go back to 1049
17:41	Llr	You can tell I'm in a hurry because I didn't capitalize my bame
17:41	NeverAgain	http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=249395.msg5400853#msg5400853
17:42	NeverAgain	thoughts on that
17:42	Peebs	god my mouse is such an ass
17:42	NeverAgain	llr
17:42	Llr	Ywah
17:42	NeverAgain	okay
17:42	NeverAgain	scott, PiT1, leinad, and llr
17:42	NeverAgain	y'all get jiggidy with the voting?
17:43	NeverAgain	on sb 1050
17:43	Llr	What akin voting on
17:43	NeverAgain	http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=249395.msg5400853#msg5400853
17:43	NeverAgain	SB 1050 - Anti-Terror Coalition Resolution
17:43	Scott	Sorry, fuck, be right back
17:43	NeverAgain	kk
17:43	blair2015	please pass this folks
17:43	Llr	Ugh it's a hawkish bill
17:43	PiT1	this has gotten complicated here
17:43	Llr	I'll vote for it if Daniel doed
17:44	Goldwater	I thought you were a hawk, LLR?
17:44	RepSG	Being pro-Israel doesn't make you a hawk
17:44	Llr	Ugh no
17:44	TedBessell	i think it's good
17:44	NeverAgain	okay
17:44	NeverAgain	either way
17:44	Llr	War is bad
17:44	NeverAgain	hawk or sexy dove
17:44	TedBessell	as sos, i think it's good
17:44	TedBessell	P
17:44	TedBessell
17:44	NeverAgain	leinad
17:44	Leinad	yes?
17:44	Leinad	I'm still here
17:44	Llr	OK I trusTed
17:44	Peebs	so what else is new LLR
17:44	Leinad	never left
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17:45	Peebs	tRumanIP
17:45	Llr	You've got my vote
17:45	Llr	I'm about to arrive gtg
17:45	PiT1	heh
17:45	NeverAgain	kk
17:45	NeverAgain	scott will start the vote
17:45	Peebs	bye Llr
17:45	Llr	PM m. If u need anything I'll respond there
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17:45	NeverAgain	okay SHIT
17:45	NeverAgain	eh
17:45	NeverAgain	nay then?
17:46	Goldwater	I think it was an aye? Because Ted?
17:46	Leinad	it was neither
17:46	NeverAgain	kk
17:46	Leinad	obviously
17:46	NeverAgain	Aye.
17:46	TedBessell	he said he trusTed me
17:46	NeverAgain	I'm going with Aye.
17:46	TedBessell	yay
17:46	Leinad	eh
17:46	NeverAgain	LLR votes Aye.
17:46	PiT1	I think he might have been sarcastic about saying he'd support it
17:46	PiT1	but I am fine either way
17:46	Leinad	Kangaroo Senate!
17:46	NeverAgain	okay scott
17:46	Scott	Guys, I really have to go - emergency
17:46	NeverAgain	aye or nay!
17:46	NeverAgain	hope you are okay!
17:46	NeverAgain	lol
17:46	TedBessell	okay
17:46	NeverAgain	I feel awful;
17:46	TedBessell	adios
17:46	Sirena	Take care Scott!
17:47	Peebs	good luck scott
17:47	Leinad	yes, bye, hope you're okay!
17:47	Scott	Thanks folks, see ya later
17:47	TedBessell	take care
17:47	PiT1	good luck
17:47	NeverAgain	Bye scott!
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17:47	GOVERNORdfw	someone from North Carolina is calling me
17:47	NeverAgain	okay PiT and Leinad
17:47	GOVERNORdfw	which one of you North Carolinians is it
17:47	NeverAgain	the vote lies with you.
17:47	Goldwater	RIP Senate
17:47	PiT1	no pressure
17:47	NeverAgain	we still have a quorum.
17:47	NeverAgain	lol
17:47	GOVERNORdfw	now we can pass a bunch of libertarian shit quick!
17:47	NeverAgain	SB 1050 - Anti-Terror Coalition Resolution
17:48	NeverAgain	Vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.
17:48	NeverAgain	or just don't.
17:48	NeverAgain	and be meanies.
17:49	PiT1	lol
17:49	17:40	PiT1	indeed
17:40	PiT1	I am normally a hardcore dove
17:40	PiT1	ISIS is a bit of an exception, since we broke the pot
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17:40	Scott	brb
17:40	Leinad	yeah, it's tricky
17:40	TedBessell	just in the nick of time
17:40	Leinad	wb LLR!
17:40	Llr	I'm in here for a lil while
17:41	PiT1	but I am still concerned with what happens here
17:41	Llr	In a car
17:41	GOVERNORdfw	I actually voted aye on that resolution
17:41	NeverAgain	okay
17:41	GOVERNORdfw	when I was in the Senate
17:41	Peebs	WBLLR
17:41	NeverAgain	let's get this thing on
17:41	NeverAgain	OOO
17:41	NeverAgain	let's finish this
17:41	NeverAgain	scott
17:41	NeverAgain	can you do sb 1050 and then we can quickly go back to 1049
17:41	Llr	You can tell I'm in a hurry because I didn't capitalize my bame
17:41	NeverAgain	http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=249395.msg5400853#msg5400853
17:42	NeverAgain	thoughts on that
17:42	Peebs	god my mouse is such an ass
17:42	NeverAgain	llr
17:42	Llr	Ywah
17:42	NeverAgain	okay
17:42	NeverAgain	scott, PiT1, leinad, and llr
17:42	NeverAgain	y'all get jiggidy with the voting?
17:43	NeverAgain	on sb 1050
17:43	Llr	What akin voting on
17:43	NeverAgain	http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=249395.msg5400853#msg5400853
17:43	NeverAgain	SB 1050 - Anti-Terror Coalition Resolution
17:43	Scott	Sorry, fuck, be right back
17:43	NeverAgain	kk
17:43	blair2015	please pass this folks
17:43	Llr	Ugh it's a hawkish bill
17:43	PiT1	this has gotten complicated here
17:43	Llr	I'll vote for it if Daniel doed
17:44	Goldwater	I thought you were a hawk, LLR?
17:44	RepSG	Being pro-Israel doesn't make you a hawk
17:44	Llr	Ugh no
17:44	TedBessell	i think it's good
17:44	NeverAgain	okay
17:44	NeverAgain	either way
17:44	Llr	War is bad
17:44	NeverAgain	hawk or sexy dove
17:44	TedBessell	as sos, i think it's good
17:44	TedBessell	P
17:44	TedBessell
17:44	NeverAgain	leinad
17:44	Leinad	yes?
17:44	Leinad	I'm still here
17:44	Llr	OK I trusTed
17:44	Peebs	so what else is new LLR
17:44	Leinad	never left
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17:45	Peebs	tRumanIP
17:45	Llr	You've got my vote
17:45	Llr	I'm about to arrive gtg
17:45	PiT1	heh
17:45	NeverAgain	kk
17:45	NeverAgain	scott will start the vote
17:45	Peebs	bye Llr
17:45	Llr	PM m. If u need anything I'll respond there
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17:45	NeverAgain	okay SHIT
17:45	NeverAgain	eh
17:45	NeverAgain	nay then?
17:46	Goldwater	I think it was an aye? Because Ted?
17:46	Leinad	it was neither
17:46	NeverAgain	kk
17:46	Leinad	obviously
17:46	NeverAgain	Aye.
17:46	TedBessell	he said he trusTed me
17:46	NeverAgain	I'm going with Aye.
17:46	TedBessell	yay
17:46	Leinad	eh
17:46	NeverAgain	LLR votes Aye.
17:46	PiT1	I think he might have been sarcastic about saying he'd support it
17:46	PiT1	but I am fine either way
17:46	Leinad	Kangaroo Senate!
17:46	NeverAgain	okay scott
17:46	Scott	Guys, I really have to go - emergency
17:46	NeverAgain	aye or nay!
17:46	NeverAgain	hope you are okay!
17:46	NeverAgain	lol
17:46	TedBessell	okay
17:46	NeverAgain	I feel awful;
17:46	TedBessell	adios
17:46	Sirena	Take care Scott!
17:47	Peebs	good luck scott
17:47	Leinad	yes, bye, hope you're okay!
17:47	Scott	Thanks folks, see ya later
17:47	TedBessell	take care
17:47	PiT1	good luck
17:47	NeverAgain	Bye scott!
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17:47	GOVERNORdfw	someone from North Carolina is calling me
17:47	NeverAgain	okay PiT and Leinad
17:47	GOVERNORdfw	which one of you North Carolinians is it
17:47	NeverAgain	the vote lies with you.
17:47	Goldwater	RIP Senate
17:47	PiT1	no pressure
17:47	NeverAgain	we still have a quorum.
17:47	NeverAgain	lol
17:47	GOVERNORdfw	now we can pass a bunch of libertarian shit quick!
17:47	NeverAgain	SB 1050 - Anti-Terror Coalition Resolution
17:48	NeverAgain	Vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.
17:48	NeverAgain	or just don't.
17:48	NeverAgain	and be meanies.
17:49	PiT1	lol
17:49	PiT1	I'll vote Aye
17:49	NeverAgain	k
17:49	Peebs	good idea nev
17:49	NeverAgain	2 ayes
17:49	PiT1	as I said, ISIS is our fault
17:49	Leinad	Abstain
17:49	Peebs	^
17:49	NeverAgain	the ayes of have it.
17:49	PiT1	under any other condition, I'd be against foreign intervention
17:49	PiT1	I'll vote Aye
17:49	NeverAgain	k
17:49	Peebs	good idea nev
17:49	NeverAgain	2 ayes
17:49	PiT1	as I said, ISIS is our fault
17:49	Leinad	Abstain
17:49	Peebs	^
17:49	NeverAgain	the ayes of have it.
17:49	PiT1	under any other condition, I'd be against foreign intervention
17:49	NeverAgain	lemme write it up
17:49	Leinad	1 aye, 1 abstention
17:50	blair2015	the bill gives the president the power to attack ISIS in Syria
17:50	blair2015	We're already attacking them in Iraq
17:50	blair2015	as there's less grey areas as Iraq formally asked us to get involded
17:50	RepSG	I'll be back. Dinner. What time does the session end?
17:50	NeverAgain	eh
17:50	NeverAgain	10 minutes
17:51	NeverAgain	Leinad
17:51	NeverAgain	that's 2 ayes
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17:51	NeverAgain	okay
17:51	NeverAgain	last thing folks
17:51	Leinad	eh
17:51	Leinad	am I the only one disputing this?
17:51	NeverAgain	he said I agree with ted
17:51	Leinad	I just think we should do this correctly
17:51	GOVERNORdfw	I dispute your dispute Leinad
17:51	NeverAgain	"that's my vote"
17:52	NeverAgain	so like
17:52	NeverAgain	I take that as an Aye
17:52	NeverAgain	but how do you not
17:52	GOVERNORdfw	Leinad isn't used to being on this early NeverAgain
17:52	NeverAgain	lol
17:52	Leinad	I think we should leave zero room for interpretation
17:52	NeverAgain	Okay.
17:52	Goldwater	14:44	Llr	OK I trusTed
17:52	Goldwater	14:45	Llr	You've got my vote
17:52	PiT1	it smelled like sarcasm to me
17:52	Sirena	He also said he would do what Leinad did before that
17:53	Leinad	^
17:53	PiT1	hard to tell in text, though
17:53	NeverAgain	I will pm him
17:53	Goldwater	Yeah, it's possible.
17:53	GOVERNORdfw	oh my God
17:53	GOVERNORdfw	do you guys want me to facebook message LLR
17:53	NeverAgain	sure
17:53	NeverAgain	just clarify
17:53	NeverAgain	anyways
17:53	NeverAgain	last thing then we'll break
23:11:18: <GOVERNORdfw> what bill is it again
23:11:28: <GOVERNORdfw> nvm
23:11:30: <GOVERNORdfw> he said yes
23:11:33: <GOVERNORdfw> he was voting with Ted
23:11:34: <neveragain> Okay!
23:11:39: <neveragain> voting aye then
23:11:43: <neveragain> yes
23:11:46: <leinad> er
23:11:49: <neveragain> clarification ftw
23:11:51: <GOVERNORdfw> do you need screenshots
23:11:52: <GOVERNORdfw> people
23:12:05: <leinad> is Ted the dove standard-maker now?
23:12:11: <neveragain> kk
23:12:19: <neveragain> Aye is the vote.
23:12:21: <leinad> if so, that's a bit problematic :P
23:12:24: <neveragain> last thing before we close
23:12:27: <Goldwater> lol
23:12:37: <Sirena> I'm the only one who voted nay in the house :P
23:12:52: <GOVERNORdfw> ok
23:12:56: <GOVERNORdfw> here's the screenshot
23:12:56: <GOVERNORdfw> https://scontent.fsnc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t35.0-12/15724909_391835964494893_4454313671711283634_o.jpg?oh=b91a82b30cfb987adc8b16e034d02907&oe=58691D09
23:13:13: <GOVERNORdfw> idk why it did that click pop out
23:13:29: <blair2015> we've reached peak fantasyland!
23:13:31: <pit1> now I know y'all's names
23:13:32: <Peebs> look at my nayvoting-atlasian over there. are you the greatest?
23:13:39: <neveragain> Okay
23:13:41: <neveragain> everyone
23:13:43: <pit1> ;)
23:13:43: <neveragain> last thing
23:13:51: <neveragain> I want to just get this by both houses
23:13:52: <Peebs> ok it doesn't roll off the tongue that well but
23:13:56: <neveragain> with all suggestions concluded
23:13:56: <neveragain> http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=253407.0
23:14:02: <neveragain> (I'm selfish)
23:14:11: <neveragain> but the other two are constitutional amendments
23:14:17: <neveragain> and things that are coming back
23:14:23: <neveragain> I want to make final use of the join sesion
23:14:26: <neveragain> session*
23:14:38: <neveragain> HB 1063 and SB 1052.
23:14:54: <neveragain> wowww
23:15:09: <GOVERNORdfw> I sent LLR the bill
23:15:11: <GOVERNORdfw> standby
23:15:13: <neveragain> k
23:15:23: <Goldwater> I still don't like the sin taxes you are planing to implement to pay for that bill.
23:15:33: <GOVERNORdfw> LLR likes the bill
23:15:36: <GOVERNORdfw> he is an AYE vote
23:15:37: <neveragain> those will be discussed in separate legislation
23:15:39: <neveragain> okay
23:15:48: <neveragain> I have a balanced budget proposal
23:15:51: <neveragain> that will come out
23:15:57: <pit1> paying for this is pretty important, though
23:16:06: <neveragain> but that is one factor
23:16:14: <GOVERNORdfw> oh I have Scott on Facebook PM
23:16:17: <GOVERNORdfw> if you need him either
23:16:17: <pit1> I'm concerned about the prospect of passing a huge spending bill and then failing to fund it
23:16:24: <Goldwater> But should l really vote to pass the bill if I won't vote in favor of the funding for it?
23:16:31: <leinad> ^^^
23:16:40: <neveragain> the partiality of the funding for it?
23:16:41: <leinad> unless you love debt ;)
23:16:41: <GOVERNORdfw> and you people claim facebook is useless
23:16:49: <neveragain> tax reform will be coming up.
23:17:01: <pit1> but the tax reform might fail
23:17:03: <neveragain> which I think will be agreeable to even y'all
23:17:04: <neveragain> but
23:17:09: <neveragain> I understand that.
23:17:11: <pit1> and then we're $800B in the hole
23:17:29: <neveragain> but the budget hasn't been agreed to yet.
23:17:47: <neveragain> until that is agreed to
23:18:15: <leinad> if if's and buts were trillion-dollar programs :P
23:18:17: <pit1> so we're okay for a short time
23:18:21: <pit1> then BAM
23:18:21: <neveragain> ^
23:18:29: <neveragain> until the budget is agreed to
23:18:30: <neveragain> again
23:18:35: <neveragain> this can be cut out of the budget
23:18:41: <blair2015> the GROW ACT was actually one of the acts that I didn't highlight as needing to be put through
23:18:48: <neveragain> during budget negotiations
23:18:57: <neveragain> I just wanted it to be looked over
23:18:59: <neveragain> ;(
23:19:01: <blair2015> I assumed that people would want to add amendments to it/the Senate would want to do stuff with it
23:19:05: <pit1> I am looking it over
23:19:05: <neveragain> pick your otherbill
23:19:13: <neveragain> pick a quickie
23:19:17: <blair2015> I'd rather this is used for bills that have pin ponged for a while
23:19:18: <pit1> yeah, I can think of amendments to this
23:19:26: <neveragain> k
23:19:30: <neveragain> then we'll wait
23:19:32: <neveragain> fine by me
23:19:39: <neveragain> I will strut my jobiness
23:19:42: <neveragain> http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=252950.0
23:19:42: <neveragain> for longerer
23:19:49: <neveragain> there's that for the senate
23:20:05: <blair2015> that looks good, and non controversial
23:20:32: <neveragain> sound good senators?
23:20:45: <neveragain> there's the employees right's act
23:21:29: <pit1> it's interesting
23:21:50: <neveragain> ooo
23:21:54: <neveragain> how about this
23:21:56: <pit1> could be really cool for underdeveloped communities
23:21:59: <neveragain> if you guys have reservations
23:22:06: <neveragain> about the postal service one
23:22:16: <neveragain> this is non-controversial
23:22:16: <neveragain> http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=253406.0
23:22:22: <Sirena> we might be able to just bring ssome bills to vote in the government board
23:22:24: <neveragain> and wasn't finished
23:22:58: <neveragain> but clyde isn't here, so I am trying to get some things clearly voted on in here so he has them to put when he gets back.
23:23:07: <neveragain> and plus scott isn't either
23:23:30: <neveragain> okay
23:23:38: <pit1> that's a good one
23:23:42: <neveragain> okay
23:23:45: <neveragain> leinad, pit.
23:24:01: <pit1> I'm thinking about an amendment to the postal banking one, hence my trepidation
23:24:09: <neveragain> SB 1051
23:24:10: <neveragain> kk
23:24:11: <neveragain> sounds fine
23:24:23: <neveragain> let's get this one done
23:25:09: <neveragain> Okay Senate Now voting
23:25:12: <neveragain> on SB 1051
23:25:14: <neveragain> Amendment to the Presidential Succession Act of 2016
23:25:18: <neveragain> http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=253406.0
23:25:18: <pit1> Aye
23:25:35: <Peebs> not a senator but honorary aye
23:25:42: <leinad> 3Aye
23:25:45: <neveragain> okay
23:25:47: <neveragain> great
23:25:51: <neveragain> lemme go llr it
23:25:57: <Peebs> wb truman
23:26:02: <HSTruman> Thanks
23:26:03: <leinad> Am I really the only one color-coding this stuff? :P
23:26:06: <leinad> wb Truman
23:26:18: <neveragain> okay
23:26:18: <Sirena> Goldwater does on the forum
23:26:19: <neveragain> so
23:26:44: <leinad> yeah, lots of us do on the forum
23:26:49: <leinad> fortunately
23:26:58: <Goldwater> How do you color code on mibbit?
23:27:03: <GOVERNORdfw> LLR is AYE
23:27:07: <pit1> I can tell "aye" from "nay"
23:27:08: <GOVERNORdfw> the colours on the bottom goldwater
23:27:09: <pit1> :P
23:27:17: <leinad> ^dfw
23:27:23: <leinad> sure, PiT
23:27:31: <leinad> but colors make it more fun :p
23:27:43: <GOVERNORdfw> is that all for now
23:27:59: <neveragain> by 3 - 0 this passes.
23:28:02: <neveragain> okay
23:28:05: <neveragain> so
23:28:05: <Sirena> Thanks for being the LLR liaison dfw :)
23:28:18: <neveragain> ^^^
23:28:20: <neveragain> yeh
23:28:21: <neveragain> helps
23:28:23: <neveragain> anyways guys
23:28:23: <leinad> yep
23:28:28: <neveragain> thank you so much for coming
23:28:29: <leinad> LLR via dfw
23:28:32: <HSTruman> What just passed?
23:28:36: <neveragain> we'll try to set up another one ASAP
23:28:41: <neveragain> http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=253406.0
23:28:46: <HSTruman> Thanks
23:28:49: <leinad> Amendment to the Presidential Succession Act
23:28:58: <Sirena> Yeah I gotta run. Happy New Year everyone!
23:29:10: <leinad> bye, happy new year to you as well!
23:29:16: <Peebs> bye siren
23:29:18: <neveragain> bye siren
23:29:22: <neveragain> happy new year
23:29:24: <neveragain> see you in 2017
23:29:30: <leinad> happy 2017
23:29:32: <neveragain> i'm off for now too
23:29:35: <pit1> by Siren
23:29:37: <neveragain> i'll post things
23:29:40: <pit1> bye NeverAgain
23:29:42: <neveragain> thanks so much for all the work!
23:29:42: <leinad> hard to be much worse in many ways :P
23:29:45: <neveragain> <3<3<3
23:29:46: <Peebs> hi sg
23:29:52: <RepSG> Hey y'all
23:29:52: <leinad> ^
23:29:54: <Peebs> siren and nev are about to leave
23:29:57: <neveragain> see y'all later
23:29:58: <neveragain> <3<3<3
23:30:02: <neveragain> thanks sg!

CONCLUSION OF THE FIRST EVER ATLASIAN JOINT CONGRESSIONAL SUMMIT! THANKS TO ALL FOR ATTENDING!e of the spending is spent.