<ivanalmeidarodri> I'm not downloading from terminal..  I've done it from Sourceforge
[22:24] <ivanalmeidarodri> any ideas?
[22:27] <ivanalmeidarodri> nobody?
[22:27] <ivanalmeidarodri> ok..
[22:30] <insaner> hi ivanalmeidarodri
[22:30] <insaner> can you tell us what commands you are typing and their output?
[22:30] <ivanalmeidarodri> yes sure..
[22:31] <insaner> did you already try using barjac's script?
[22:31] <ivanalmeidarodri> actually i'm not doing it in terminal;..
[22:31] <insaner> oh
[22:31] <ivanalmeidarodri> no.. what's that?
[22:31] <insaner> why not?
[22:31] <insaner> barjac has a script that you run and it does all that stuff for you
[22:31] <insaner> but if youve gotten this far, might as well finish
[22:32] <barjac> insaner:  he's building 7.8 from tarball
[22:32] <insaner> 7.8??
[22:32] <ivanalmeidarodri> yeh... so I've  successfully compile ffmpeg, frei0r and mlt.. now i'm on kdenlive
[22:32] <insaner> why?
[22:33] <insaner> why dont you just get it from a repo?
[22:33] <insaner> that means synaptic on ubuntu and many other
[22:33] <insaner> s
[22:33] <ivanalmeidarodri> whats 7.8? whats tarball? repo? ohh.. i'm so lost...
[22:34] <insaner> hehe
[22:34] <insaner> dont worry
[22:34] <ivanalmeidarodri> ok... so anyways...
[22:34] <insaner> 7.8 is the version of kdenlive you are trying to install
[22:34] <ivanalmeidarodri> yeh.,,.
[22:34] <insaner> tarball is like saying "zip file"
[22:34] <ivanalmeidarodri> thanks man...
[22:34] <insaner> and repo is just a site that has installable packages of your programs
[22:34] <insaner> no probs
[22:35] <insaner> so tell me how you are trying to extract the file
[22:35] <insaner> what linux are you using?
[22:35] <ivanalmeidarodri> i've downloaded it to my desktop..
[22:35] <ivanalmeidarodri> ubuntu 10.10
[22:35] <insaner> ohh
[22:35] <insaner> but
[22:35] <insaner> why didnt you just use synaptic to install it?
[22:36] <ivanalmeidarodri> hahha.. i have no idea...
[22:36] <insaner> hahahah
[22:36] <insaner> oh dear
[22:36] <insaner> haha
[22:36] <insaner> ok
[22:36] <insaner> so go to your menu, your start menu
[22:36] <ivanalmeidarodri> sorry...
[22:36] <ivanalmeidarodri> ok..
[22:37] <insaner> and go to system, administration, synaptic
[22:37] <insaner> or whatever that is in portugese
[22:38] <ivanalmeidarodri> haha.. ok.. i've installed it in english..
[22:38] <insaner> so that should be the order of the menus
[22:39] <insaner> in synaptic, you type your root password when it asks you
[22:39] <insaner> should be the same password as your login
[22:39] <ivanalmeidarodri> ok..
[22:39] <ivanalmeidarodri> done it
[22:39] <insaner> and then type in the search bar "kdenlive"
[22:39] <insaner> and you are set
[22:39] <insaner> well
[22:39] <insaner> select it to install
[22:39] <insaner> and then you are set
[22:40] <ivanalmeidarodri> haha... well there are 3 kdenlives... kdenlive   kdenlive-data and kdenlive-dbg
[22:40] <ivanalmeidarodri> i'll mark then all to install ?
[22:41] <barjac> no
[22:41] <barjac> you probably won't need dbg
[22:41] <ivanalmeidarodri> when I mark kdenlive to install it automatcly mark the kdenlive-data
[22:41] <ivanalmeidarodri> ok.. so i'll leave dbg
[22:42] <barjac> try just jdenlive - it will pull any more it needs along with it
[22:42] <insaner> you want the two that arent dbg
[22:42] <insaner> youll need data too im pretty sure
[22:42] <insaner> yep, there you go
[22:42] <ivanalmeidarodri> so a hit apply..
[22:43] <insaner> yep
[22:43] <ivanalmeidarodri> downloading package files!!!.. yess
[22:43] <insaner> and just wait a bit
[22:43] <insaner> and then you are done!
[22:43] <ivanalmeidarodri> thanks guys..
[22:43] <insaner> no problem
[22:43] <ivanalmeidarodri> know i just run kdenlive? will I have the light graffiti effect
[22:45] <insaner> ohh you want the graffiti effect
[22:45] <insaner> well
[22:45] <insaner> try first and then find out
[22:45] <insaner> if not, then come back here and ask
[22:45] <ivanalmeidarodri> dont tell me i wont get it...
[22:45] <ivanalmeidarodri> ok.. just a second
[22:46] <ivanalmeidarodri> oh dammit...
[22:47] <ivanalmeidarodri> i do have the effect... but.. its different
[22:48] <insaner> haha
[22:48] <insaner> different how?
[22:48] <ivanalmeidarodri> so let me ask you a few questions...
[22:48] <insaner> sure
[22:49] <ivanalmeidarodri>  installing from the program you told me, Synaptic.. is it the same as "installing from source"?
[22:49] <insaner> no
[22:49] <insaner> these are precompiled
[22:49] <ivanalmeidarodri> o crap
[22:49] <insaner> which means you dont have to do any effort
[22:52] <ivanalmeidarodri> yeh.. so let me explain.. i 've installed kdenlive before from the ubuntu software center and then i compiled the frei0r to get the light effect... the effect came ot all different that what it soulh look like... I was talking to Simon Eugester.. the guy who wrote the Light graffiti ..  he said that i need to also compile Kdenlive from source to get it right...
[22:52] <ivanalmeidarodri> and that is what I was doing....
[22:53] <ivanalmeidarodri> so I had all the libraries and frei0r and mlt installed..  can I just re-install kdenlive?
[22:53] <ivanalmeidarodri> this time install it from source?
[22:54] <barjac> ivanalmeidarodri: If you want to install from the very latest source then then read ALL this thread :-
[22:54] <barjac> http://kdenlive.org/forum/kdenlive-0771-and-078-simultaneously
[22:54] <barjac> and use the script in the last post
[22:54] <ivanalmeidarodri> oh... ok!
[22:55] <insaner> that will save you some time
[22:55] <insaner> though
[22:55] <insaner> for me, it didnt work
[22:55] <ivanalmeidarodri> but do i have to unintall kdenlive firt?
[22:55] <insaner> ill tell you why if you run into the problem
[22:55] <barjac> insaner: that's the original not my tweak
[22:56] <barjac> ivanalmeidarodri: no - read the thread
[22:56] <ivanalmeidarodri> ok..
[22:57] <barjac> ivanalmeidarodri: Make notes as you read - especially on how to launch it.
[22:57] <insaner> yeah im pretty sure the original has the same problem
[23:00] <barjac> insaner: maybe something changed recently that broke something - every run updates all the sources
[23:00] <insaner> its to do with ffmpeg
[23:00] <insaner> and ubuntu being dumb
[23:00] <insaner> not the script itself
[23:01] <insaner> by the way, i sort of just forced myself to quickly learn a bit on making debs
[23:01] <insaner> haha
[23:01] <ivanalmeidarodri> ok... so barjac.. no offense but that looks to complicated for my level of understanding of linux...
[23:01] <insaner> so that this whole thing works a bit better
[23:01] <insaner> its not really that hard
[23:02] <insaner> if i remember correctly, its about 4 steps
[23:02] <insaner> download, run installer, wait, and then go and run the launch script from the right place
[23:03] <insaner> barjac do you know who packages.. oh, heh, sunab, right?
[23:03] <barjac> ivanalmeidarodri: yes you already have all the tools installed since you built ffmpeg etc before
[23:04] <barjac> insaner: I am using Mandriva - so no synaptic here
[23:05] <ivanalmeidarodri> but i need a sort of step-by-step.. on what to type and where...
[23:05] <ivanalmeidarodri> i know... I'm dumb
[23:06] <insaner> dont worry ivan
[23:06] <barjac> ivanalmeidarodri: copy/paste the script into a text editor save it as build_kdenlive.sh in ~/ (your home folder)
[23:06] <insaner> if its your first time, theres no way you are going to "just know" all you need to know
[23:06] <ivanalmeidarodri> yeh... hehhe. sorry guys..
[23:07] <barjac> ivanalmeidarodri: then in a terminal - chmod +x build_kdenlive.sh
[23:08] <barjac> ivanalmeidarodri: then in a terminal ./build_kdenlive.sh
[23:08] <ivanalmeidarodri> hum... i'll try it..
[23:09] <barjac> ivanalmeidarodri: or maybe better to do ./build_kdenlive.sh > buildkdl.log
[23:10] <barjac> ivanalmeidarodri: then if it fails (which it will first time) you can pastebin buildkdl.log for someone to look at :-)
[23:11] <ivanalmeidarodri> ok.. first fail:
[23:11] <barjac> ivanalmeidarodri: Sorry I meant ./build_kdenlive.sh tee buildkdl.log
[23:11] <ivanalmeidarodri> when saving the script..
[23:13] <barjac> ivanalmeidarodri: So what's the problem?
[23:13] <ivanalmeidarodri> it says.. Error saving the document Untitled1: /build_kdenlive.sh does not exist...
[23:14] <barjac> No save it as build_kdenlive.sh in your home folder
[23:15] <barjac> use "save as"
[23:16] <barjac> save it in /home/your_user_name/
[23:16] <ivanalmeidarodri> got it... I was choosing to save it in the file system drive...
[23:16] <ivanalmeidarodri> sorry again..
[23:17] <barjac> No problem
[23:17] <ivanalmeidarodri> ok.. so now on terminal..
[23:17] <barjac> chmod +x build_kdenlive.sh
[23:19] <ivanalmeidarodri> " chmod: cannot access `build_kdenlive.sh': No such file or directory"
[23:19] <ivanalmeidarodri> ok.. fixed it
[23:19] <ivanalmeidarodri> the file was saved as .odt
[23:20] <barjac> why?
[23:20] * edogawa palmfaces ;)
[23:20] <ivanalmeidarodri> now I typed the chmod +x build_kdenlive.sh  and nothing happened
[23:21] <barjac> ivanalmeidarodri: Oh yes it did - now  ./build_kdenlive.sh | tee buildkdl.log
[23:21] <barjac> copy/paste that
[23:23] <ivanalmeidarodri> yeh.. its not working the copy paste.. i can do it with every thing else..
[23:23] <ivanalmeidarodri> I'll write it..
[23:24] <ivanalmeidarodri> invalid file (bad magic number): Exec format error
[23:24] <ivanalmeidarodri> that came up
[23:26] <barjac> paste using CTRL/v
[23:26] <ivanalmeidarodri> ?
[23:26] <edogawa> ivanalmeidarodri: openoffice/libreoffice writer isn't a text editor, it's a word processor - you should have used something like gedit/kwrite
[23:26] <ivanalmeidarodri> oops
[23:26] <barjac> Ah - thanks :-)
[23:27] <ivanalmeidarodri> hahha... men... I feel like a child here... you are all experts to me...
[23:27] <barjac> ivanalmeidarodri: it's all relative - I feel the same
[23:28] <ivanalmeidarodri> sorry to take all your time guys,... for those who haven't heard that is my first time on linux..
[23:28] <barjac> ivanalmeidarodri: you really are in at the deep end!
[23:29] <ivanalmeidarodri> i'm director of photography who never had to use linux... but this light graffutu efect came and changed it... now I am here struggling with kdenlive.. just to apply one single effect
[23:29] <ivanalmeidarodri> ok... I will re-save the file in a text editor now..
[23:30] <barjac> Make sure it does not have line numbers - select RAW on pastebin before you copy it
[23:31] <barjac> Ah it's OK the link was to RAW copy
[23:32] <ivanalmeidarodri> so I've copied everything and saved over the last file
[23:33] <ivanalmeidarodri> now i type chmod +x build_kdenlive.sh
[23:34] <barjac> yep
[23:34] <ivanalmeidarodri> nothing really happen but I belive you..
[23:34] <barjac> it became executable
[23:34] <ivanalmeidarodri> now the next step..
[23:34] <barjac> ./build_kdenlive.sh | tee buildkdl.log
[23:34] <edogawa> ivanalmeidarodri: unix commands only talk when there are errors
[23:35] <ivanalmeidarodri> done it!
[23:35] <ivanalmeidarodri> its running someting here...
[23:36] <barjac> No but you started to do something - to finish it will take about 45 mins
[23:36] <ivanalmeidarodri> ooh... ok...
[23:36] <ivanalmeidarodri> great!.. and now what? after that?
[23:36] <barjac> Unless it stops on error
[23:37] <ivanalmeidarodri> it looks stoped.. it says
[23:37] <ivanalmeidarodri> Initialized empty Git repository in /home/ivan/kdenlive/src/ffmpeg/.git/
[23:37] <ivanalmeidarodri> no.. its no stoped!
[23:37] <ivanalmeidarodri> its running again...
[23:37] <barjac> If it stops - look at the screen and try to figure why it stopped
[23:37] <barjac> It's a long process
[23:37] <ivanalmeidarodri> no its running allright..
[23:38] <barjac> All the screen output is being saved in buildkdl.log
[23:38] <ivanalmeidarodri> but I did really understand what I've just done... as long as it works i will be very happy!
[23:39] <ivanalmeidarodri> I mean.. i DIDN'T understand
[23:39] <ivanalmeidarodri> but thats is ok...
[23:39] <ivanalmeidarodri> and the next step should be what?
[23:39] <barjac> Now don't forget these two things:-
[23:40] <ivanalmeidarodri> oh.. it stoped... ans error occurred
[23:40] <ivanalmeidarodri> KBWERROR: Unable to create configure file for frei0r
[23:40] <ivanalmeidarodri> KBWTRACE: Entering feedback_result @ = FAILURE Some kind of error occured: Unable to create configure file for frei0r
[23:40] <ivanalmeidarodri> KBWLOG: Process has finished. Reason: FAILURE Some kind of error occured: Unable to create configure file for frei0r
[23:40] <insaner> barjac, the keyframe sliders, do you think that would be a kdenlive package thing, or an mlt thing?
[23:42] <barjac> insaner: Dunno but if you look at recent changelogs there has been work going on on those
[23:42] <barjac> I saw commits on here
[23:43] <barjac> ivanalmeidarodri: can you pastebin buildkdl.log
[23:43] <ivanalmeidarodri> it says I must have libtool installes to compile frei0r.. can i get it via apt-get?
[23:43] <barjac> yes
[23:44] <ivanalmeidarodri> great.. i'll try
[23:44] <barjac> and then try again .. and so on until it builds :-)
[23:45] <ivanalmeidarodri> ok!! so aparently i hve the libtool now...
[23:45] <ivanalmeidarodri> now i have to start again?
[23:45] <barjac> yep - it's a slow job!
[23:46] <insaner> yeah, commits that broke my keframes inpan and zoom
[23:48] <ivanalmeidarodri> it's running again...
[23:48] <ivanalmeidarodri> so barjac, you where saying the two things I should remember...
[23:49] <barjac> ivanalmeidarodri: Ah yes - Before you try to run it re-name ~/.kde4/share/config/kdenliverc to _old or something
[23:52] <barjac> and use the  ~/kdenlive/todays_date/bin/start_kdenlive script to launch it
[23:52] <ivanalmeidarodri> hum.. ok..
[23:53] <ivanalmeidarodri> thanks...
[23:53] <ivanalmeidarodri> I'm dealing with a new error.. it says
[23:53] <barjac> You can create a desktop launcher in kde to do that by right clicking the desktop - create application launcher
[23:53] <ivanalmeidarodri> -- Could NOT find QJSON  (missing:  QJSON_LIBRARIES QJSON_INCLUDE_DIR)
[23:53] <ivanalmeidarodri> -- Could NOT find QImageBlitz  (missing:  QIMAGEBLITZ_INCLUDES QIMAGEBLITZ_LIBRARIES)
[23:53] <ivanalmeidarodri> -- Install QImageBlitz devel package for improved stopmotion features
[23:53] <ivanalmeidarodri> -- Install QJson to use the rotoscoping filter
[23:53] <ivanalmeidarodri> -- using dl library: /usr/lib/libdl.so
[23:53] <ivanalmeidarodri> -- C flags are now:  --std=c99
[23:53] <ivanalmeidarodri> -- Configuring incomplete, errors occurred!
[23:54] <barjac> Install
[23:54] <barjac> libqjson0
[23:54] <barjac> libqjson-devel
[23:54] <ivanalmeidarodri> ok!! thanks a lot!..
[23:54] <ivanalmeidarodri> oh.. but can i get it via apt-get?
[23:55] <barjac> probably just dev not devel on your system
[23:55] <barjac> Yes apt etc
[23:56] <ivanalmeidarodri> ok got it...
[00:01] <barjac> ivanalmeidarodri: insaner: A pumpkin just pulled up outside the door (Cinderella joke) so I must leave you guys to it - have fun!
[00:01] <ivanalmeidarodri> hahah.. ok!! thanks a lot!!
[00:02] <barjac> ivanalmeidarodri: :-) You will get there - just keep trying!
[00:02] <ivanalmeidarodri> hey!!! look at this!
[00:02] <ivanalmeidarodri> KBWLOG: Process has finished. Reason: SUCCESS Everything succeeded
[00:02] <ivanalmeidarodri> yeeh!
[00:03] <edogawa> congratz :D
[00:03] <ivanalmeidarodri> thanks barjac!
[00:03] <barjac> Wow! OK now don't forget those 2 steps
[00:03] <ivanalmeidarodri> ok... I'll do it right now.
[00:04] <ivanalmeidarodri> I don't have to rename then using the terminal do i?
[00:04] <insaner> so, my vids now get imported!
[00:04] <insaner> woot!
[00:04] <insaner> what a big mess
[00:04] <insaner> holey
[00:04] <barjac> Are you using KDE?
[00:04] <insaner> me?
[00:04] <barjac> no
[00:04] <ivanalmeidarodri> me?
[00:05] <barjac> yes
[00:05] <ivanalmeidarodri> oh... hehe..  what is KDE?
[00:05] <ivanalmeidarodri> hahahaha... sorry..
[00:05] <barjac> ivanalmeidarodri: Use Dolphin
[00:05] <barjac> No hang on let's use the terminal
[00:06] <ivanalmeidarodri> we are talking animals now...
[00:06] <ivanalmeidarodri> i have no idea what that is..
[00:06] <ivanalmeidarodri> hehehe!! great!
[00:06] <barjac> OK
[00:06] <barjac> Justa second
[00:06] <ivanalmeidarodri> ok...
[00:07] <insaner> transparency effect is still missing
[00:07] <barjac> ivanalmeidarodri: mv .kde4/share/config/kdenliverc .kde4/share/config/kdenliverc_orig
[00:08] <barjac> copy paste into a terminal/konsole
[00:08] <ivanalmeidarodri> i'll just paste that on terminal
[00:08] <ivanalmeidarodri> ok
[00:08] <barjac> done?
[00:08] <ivanalmeidarodri> dammit the copy paste is not working!.
[00:08] <ivanalmeidarodri> I'll type it
[00:08] <barjac> use CTRL/c CTRL/v
[00:09] <ivanalmeidarodri> yes! its not working..
[00:10] <barjac> And right/click context menu not working either?
[00:11] <ivanalmeidarodri> nope... but I've written irt
[00:11] <ivanalmeidarodri> and it says..
[00:11] <barjac> check it's exact
[00:11] <ivanalmeidarodri> mv: cannot stat `.kde4/share/config/kdenliverc': No such file or directory
[00:12] <edogawa> ivanalmeidarodri: mark any text in X11, then middleclick somewhere else - that will directly paste and is easier than copy paste, i love that

[00:12] <ivanalmeidarodri> hoolly crap!!! I've cleared the conversation....
[00:13] <ivanalmeidarodri> i'm screwed ...