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Xean.@xtern1ty: but a few days later, I noticed one of them following me around, then they started spamming me with disco balls

Denizon@denison2: and then the drama.........

Xean.@xtern1ty: then they started ganging on me, I didn't realize at first who they were

Koloth@worffan101: Disco balls?  Seriously?

Muqi@deltron9: They did that thing to someone I know

Xean.@xtern1ty: I'd heard of them, but it took a while for me to piece out who they were and why they were after me

Koloth@worffan101: If they're spamming balls on you in an RP, take it to a private map.

Koloth@worffan101: Otherwise, who gives a shit about random dancing?

Xean.@xtern1ty: yeah worf, those party ball things they put up every time they're around

Muqi@deltron9: my friend reported them but they still are here

Xean.@xtern1ty: so what happened is I changed map instance

Koloth@worffan101: I don't understand why they use the balls.

Koloth@worffan101: And why people get annoyed by them.

Xean.@xtern1ty: and when I did, they were therre on the the other instance again, following me around

Koloth@worffan101: Xean: Did you try going chat anonymous?

Xean.@xtern1ty: I am anonymous

Dart_Dukii@dartdukii: [Subspace Party Nullifier]

Koloth@worffan101: H'mmm...

Xean.@xtern1ty: I can't go non-anonymous or they spam trade screens and pm me abuses

Dart_Dukii@dartdukii: that shows how much it annoys

Koloth@worffan101: Must've had spotters in every zone.  That's pretty f*cking organized

Xean.@xtern1ty: sometimes those trade screens get stuck and I can't remove them if I beam out or change maps

Denizon@denison2: trade screens would b annoying

Koloth@worffan101: Log out and then back in.

Xean.@xtern1ty: yeah, I figured that out afterwards worf

Koloth@worffan101: Spend a lot of time in private maps, fleet base and such.

Xean.@xtern1ty: they had sent one player to each instance and that's how they knew how to keep following me

Denizon@denison2: hard to help ppl there

Koloth@worffan101: Run missions a lot, hide in obscure corners of space

Denizon@denison2: hard to help ppl there

Xean.@xtern1ty: I tried to keep neutral and didn't say much unless provoked, I wanted to keep the fldling fleet as it was then, out of the spotlight

Koloth@worffan101: Price of freedom.

Xean.@xtern1ty: fledgeling*

Xean.@xtern1ty: then when I got better established and the fleet was all set up, I started to look out for other players, helping them, gathering friends, socializing

Koloth@worffan101: Price of freedom.

Xean.@xtern1ty: and that's how I became known at first, but I didn't relaize they had already starting spreading rumors about me

Muqi@deltron9: what rumors?

Xean.@xtern1ty: stuff lik I was a fleet thief and scammer, none of which I had ever done

Xean.@xtern1ty: but I realized they were spreading these rumors when I started to meet players I never met before who had placed me on ignore

Xean.@xtern1ty: I managed to get one of them out of ignoring me once and asked a few questions, that's how I found out about the rumors

Koloth@worffan101: Typical Dental stuff, really.

Xean.@xtern1ty: thngs kept escalating, I did my best not to let it interfere with thefleet and protect friends from what I was going throuh, and pretty much succeeduntil latelt

Xean.@xtern1ty: lately*

Dart_Dukii@dartdukii: sorry to hear all that X, seems like u should make a big report to the GM's, using any Forum, game chat a,d YT links

Koloth@worffan101: What happened recently?

Muqi@deltron9: yes, i want to know too

Koloth@worffan101: I saw the forum necro, but nothing else

Xean.@xtern1ty: because of how active an well-known for helping out I became, they decided to attack me personally, even going to the forums to necro a thread to shame me

Muqi@deltron9: do you have a link, please?

Denizon@denison2: i dont read the forms

Xean.@xtern1ty: it's been going on in-game much before the forums though worf

Xean.@xtern1ty: dev Smirk closed the thread

Koloth@worffan101: Yeah, that's how it is with most Dental stuff.

Xean.@xtern1ty: Randy was the one who told me about it, i hadn't seen the thread till heshowed me

Muqi@deltron9: I would like to see it too

Xean.@xtern1ty: so i had no idea, they keep popping up all sorts of things that I hear about later from friends, rumors and shaming almost daily

Koloth@worffan101: Basically Dental necroed a year-old thread to rant about Xean.

Dart_Dukii@dartdukii: ^

Koloth@worffan101: Bog-standard Dental move.

Dart_Dukii@dartdukii: i found the post while i was scrolling the forums

Koloth@worffan101: Like their Nazi-inspired fleet banner.

Dart_Dukii@dartdukii: was a bit shocked

Koloth@worffan101: I saw it too, I tend to lurk in Ten Forward a lot.

Muqi@deltron9: where to look for it on forum?

Xean.@xtern1ty: it's deliberate and organized cyberbullying, not trolling, not harmless fun but naming, shaming, verbal abuse with intent to cause harm.

Dart_Dukii@dartdukii: i visited their clan site a few days ago. SF DEntal - the Great laeder

Dart_Dukii@dartdukii: theur address is in North korea, somewherer in Pyongyang

Xean.@xtern1ty: I really don't care who they are, what needs to be done is organize players capable of standing up to them when they're out bullying on esd

Koloth@worffan101: Dental likes to be provocative.

RAnd-E@RedShirtRandy: Reaction is what they're looking for, makes them feel powerful

Koloth@worffan101: Yup.

RAnd-E@RedShirtRandy: As any 8-year old can tell you, negative attention is better than no attention at all

Xean.@xtern1ty: For now, let's focus on spreading the truth about our group, we're not scammers, we're good players who help out

Denizon@denison2: indeed

Xean.@xtern1ty: and let's organize teams, they like to pick on some our members when they're out alone

Xean.@xtern1ty: we need to be ready to fly to the help of a member of ours at any given timewhen they're being picked on

RAnd-E@RedShirtRandy: Uh, ,how do you 'pick on' someone in a game where PvP is voluntary?

Xean.@xtern1ty: through verbal and psychological harrassment

Dart_Dukii@dartdukii: stalk ppl around

Koloth@worffan101: Ever see a Dental troll a pug in IGE?

Koloth@worffan101: But you do have a point, Randy.

RAnd-E@RedShirtRandy: Well, just my opinion, but having a 'team respond' is just handing them their cake and a fork

RAnd-E@RedShirtRandy: Way better to simply tell anyone to just put them on ignore

Koloth@worffan101: That works.

RAnd-E@RedShirtRandy: I'll be honest, they likely have people lurking in channel and going 'ooh look they are all stirred up about us'

Denizon@denison2: good point randy

Xean.@xtern1ty: it doesn't work. it's hard to explain until you experience it yourself when it's done to you

RAnd-E@RedShirtRandy: K well, I just notice the problem isn't going away as long as people keep reacting, foruming, discussing...

Muqi@deltron9: Cryptic should ban them

Xean.@xtern1ty: it isn't going away, and fighting this way we're just feeding their ego, we need to up the ante, bring the fight to their doorstep, do what they don't don't expect.

Koloth@worffan101: Anyway, must go now, back later.

Xean.@xtern1ty: ok l8rs worf

Koloth@worffan101: I'd advise just ignoring them.  Dental WANTS you to respond.

Koloth@worffan101: Ignore them and they'll get bored eventually.

Koloth@worffan101: L8ters, all.

RAnd-E@RedShirtRandy: What they don't expect is to have everyone completely ignore them. Thats the last I'm gonna say on it

Xean.@xtern1ty: For now, let's focus on the fleet, then we'll think of them

Xean.@xtern1ty: on what to do withthem

Xean.@xtern1ty: let's not talk about hem for now, I want to observe what they do and document everything going on. I have a plan.