<@Slacker> The Vellin are invading Fleet territory
01[22:15] <@Mal> ..How?
[22:15] <@Silence> wait what
[22:15] <@Silence> why?
01[22:15] <@Mal> What?
[22:15] <@Silence> Bakana!
[22:15] <@Lokar> each time I had to go down and talk to the family who lived on the ground floor because i had no access to the basement
01[22:15] <@Mal> How'd you guys manage this?
[22:15] <@Slacker> Because everyone in Tau Ceti really hates the Fleet
01[22:15] <@Mal> Okay sure but how can he win?
[22:15] <@Silence> Why does Vellins hate the fleet
[22:15] <@Slacker> He arranged wargaming with the Combine
[22:15] <@Lokar> I had to restart the heater each time
01[22:15] <@Mal> He's got like 10 corvettes
[22:15] <@Silence> they been sitting there doing nothing for years  :(
[22:16] <@Slacker> So I guess they're going to line up over the Combine and then just drop on League territory
[22:16] <@Lokar> to say nothing of 2014 when the pipe litterally broke
[22:16] <@Slacker> Oh I expect it to go horribly, horribly wrong
[22:16] <@Slacker> But it's magnificent in its ambition.
[22:16] <@Slacker> To be fair the Fleet's fleet isn't all that large either
[22:16] <@Lokar> had to spend a couple of days in a hotel with that one
01[22:16] <@Mal> by League territory you mean Fleet territory?
[22:16] <@Slacker> Yes
[22:17] <@Slacker> Don't know why I said league
[22:17] <@Ford_Dylandy> It's 5 to not pull the trigger and 4 to pull the trigger.  Exciting!
[22:17] <@Lokar> wait Riftwar was this weekend?
[22:17] <@Silence> no
[22:17] <@Silence> it was going to tommorow
[22:17] <@MegasZeromanikos> i need a hippie commie name for a militaey, as daft as that many sound
[22:17] <@g_g> Get to the lifeboats dude. Don't go down with your apartment.
[22:17] <@Silence> but no rules were ready yet
[22:17] <@Silence> and so you got DF instead
[22:17] <@Lokar> ah
01[22:18] <@Mal> That is 100% not going to work out at all
[22:18] <@MegasZeromanikos> calling the navy something pulpy like 'The Patrol' appeals atm
[22:18] <@Lokar> I thought Lurker hammered out all the kinks in the rule
01[22:18] <@Mal> Like that is going to go wrong for sure
[22:18] <@Silence> wegot the skeleton
[22:18] <@Slacker> Hysterically wrong
[22:18] <@Silence> but Lurker never showed up with the kink hammer
01[22:18] <@Mal> I mean Hyperborea would have to be INSANE to let them do that
[22:18] <@Lokar> ah
[22:18] <@Slacker> Interestingly he has so many forces on transports he might be able to pull it off
[22:18] <@I00thlurker> Oh I thought you wanted to do another test on sunday
[22:18] <@Slacker> Because Sec has almost no ground forces in Tau Ceti
[22:18] <@Silence> I did till I remembered
01[22:19] <@Mal> Yeah but the fleet's got friends
[22:19] <@Silence> I got nieces birtdhay part to go to
01[22:19] <@Mal> even if it's friends of convenience
[22:19] <@Slacker> Like the Vellin literally could bury him under bod8es
[22:19] <@Silence> nothing nuclear warheads can't solve
01[22:19] <@Mal> I mean what would you do if you were Hyperborea, Slacker?
[22:19] <@FBH> hey Slacker
[22:19] <@Silence> and hedoesn't have civilians there
[22:19] <@Slacker> Yeah but Screwball isn't going to go against the whole Tau Ceti fleet
[22:19] <@FBH> when does building from slips reset?
01[22:19] <@Mal> Is it the whole Tau Ceti fleet?
[22:19] <@FBH> like, if you have a heavy cruiser building does it keep the slip tied down for 24 months?
[22:20] <@Slacker> Yes
01[22:20] <@Mal> I mean is the TCN also going in on this?
[22:20] <@Slacker> I'm still waiting on my ultimatum
[22:20] <@Slacker> Sec has ignored it
01[22:20] <@Mal> Well you KNOW now that your ultimatum will be agreed to
[22:20] <@I00thlurker> [22:18]	Silence	I got nieces birtdhay part to go to
[22:20] <@I00thlurker> Oh I see!
[22:20] <@Slacker> Do i? I mean Mars might just stomp them and Camp David
[22:20] <@Silence> Is Sec operating under the situational belief that Mars is overiding puny Terranovans
[22:20] <@FBH> is DF off?
[22:21] <@Silence> no
[22:21] <@Silence> DF is tommorow
[22:21] <@Silence> which is Saturday to me
[22:21] <@Silence> Sunday is the party
[22:21] <@Slacker> That is not the message Mars sent the Fleet.
[22:21] <@Silence> I thought the message was Mars was get with the program and you can help
01[22:21] <@Mal> Well he's going to pull everything back because somebody's invading him, Slacker
[22:21] <@Slacker> It was to Qurna and me and everyone else
[22:22] <@Slacker> The Fleet has been fucking with Mars for a year
[22:22] <@Slacker> The Fleet didn't get the same menu selection
[22:22] <@Slacker> Probably Mal.
[22:22] <@Silence> I'll say this i" The blockade has not been lifted, only civilian traffic is allowed to travel to and from Earth. Mars is willing to negotiate with "the Fleet," but will do so from a different position as the past. We do not recognize the authority of the United Nations to dictate terms or policies. Martian forces will be paramount in North America for the time, we will entertain your...
[22:22] <@Silence> ...assistance in the matter if you're willing to work in those conditions. "
[22:22] <@Silence> that's the message that is out there
01[22:22] <@Mal> Anyhow, this is massively destabilizing and the TCN should probably realize this
[22:22] <@Slacker> It is
[22:23] <@Oseng> I like your little note on your budget General G :D
[22:23] <@Slacker> And Silence there was a private additional message
[22:23] <@Silence> well I don't spy on people's mail
[22:23] <@Silence> so I wouldn't know :p
[22:23] <@Slacker> I understand that but I'm telling you now because it was shared with me lol
[22:23] <@Silence> Oseng get me access rights to GM's pms :p
01[22:23] <@Mal> Well I'm registering that Jager guy as a desperate enemy once this goes IC
[22:23] <@Silence> He ignored my ambassador :(
[22:24] <@Silence> but yeah if Tau Ceti lets a suprise pearl harbor go unpunished
[22:24] <@Slacker> Unfortunately the reality is Sec wore out his welcome in Tau Ceti like MA did in LS.
[22:24] <@Silence> I won't feel any obligation to let you known of your own impending doom :p
[22:24] <@Slacker> Oh I didn't say we wouldn't say or do something
[22:24] <@Slacker> But we can't like invade that planet
[22:24] <@Slacker> And he has no fleet to destroy
[22:25] <@Slacker> So what exactly do I do?
[22:25] <@Silence> blockade
[22:25] <@Slacker> Cancel my trade agreement? Ok
[22:25] <@Silence> blockade
[22:25] <@Slacker> He doesn't have any tradr
[22:25] <@Silence> blast his civilian stuff in orbit
[22:25] <@Slacker> He's space posthuman North Korea.
[22:25] <@g_g> Post about the evil UN agenda on Neptunian Survivalist message boards.
01[22:25] <@Mal> I think you need to reconsider your position on that Tau Ceti bloc for one
01[22:25] <@Mal> He's not North Korea
01[22:25] <@Mal> He has the biggest army in the game
[22:26] <@Slacker> Yes and as long as it's planet bound it can't hurt ke
01[22:26] <@Mal> Yes he can
01[22:26] <@Mal> Because he's now joined with the Combine
01[22:26] <@Mal> Now the Combine has a free superarmy to swing around
01[22:26] <@Mal> And if you think that's not an alliance that'll last, think again
[22:26] <@Slacker> No I think the best part is Mandela has no idea
[22:26] <@Silence> anyway Slacker
01[22:27] <@Mal> I don't think that's the case
[22:27] <@Slacker> I was talking about it today with Josh this is going to surprise him too I think.
[22:27] <@Silence> my Fusan built attrocity ray in orbit doesn't sound so bad now does it
[22:27] <@Oseng> Regretfully mods can't see PMs either
[22:27] <@Oseng> :P
01[22:27] <@Mal> Yeah, I don't believe that for a moment, Slack :p
[22:27] <@Slacker> No lol Silence I guess it doesn't.
[22:27] <@Slacker> Bro I'm dead serious
01[22:27] <@Mal> Not. One. Moment.
01[22:27] <@Mal> I'm sure he'll feign innocence
[22:27] <@Ford_Dylandy> imagine my surprise when i discover that you need a functional smartphone to make instagram happen
01[22:27] <@Mal> So he avoids the bad rap
01[22:28] <@Mal> So he can pretend 'oh, I didn't do it, I'm completely not culpable'
[22:28] <@Slacker> Yes but OOC on top of OOC I really believe this is Jager on his own.
[22:28] <@Silence> Vellins is crazymoon right?
[22:28] <@Silence> and he's invading the Sec on the surface of Terranova
[22:28] <@Silence> you can indirect supplies feeding his army
[22:29] <@Silence> or potshot them from orbit
01[22:29] <@Mal> Well I understand TCN is in a difficult position
01[22:29] <@Mal> But even IF they aren't allied officially now, they WILL be
01[22:29] <@Mal> Now you've got a crazy North Korea joined at the hip with th e Combine
01[22:29] <@Mal> who will happily swing them aroudn as a huge army
01[22:29] <@Mal> and they'll latch on and profit by bandwagoning
[22:29] <@Silence> Master blaster!
[22:30] <@Shrike> Just wait for those American Spartans to start sending them guns
01[22:30] <@Mal> And it's an arrangement that utterly obviates their lack of navy
01[22:30] <@Mal> The TCN would be highly irresponsible to not balance against that
[22:30] <@g_g> I dunno. I think the Vellins are even more out there than North Korea.
[22:30] <@Slacker> Yes and I'll be in a difficult position once it becomes public
[22:30] <@g_g> They're barely even human.
01[22:30] <@Mal> You would be passing the buck to Lambda Aurigae which will work for you how long?
06[22:31] * @Mal points fingers!
[22:31] <@Slacker> I'm working on an arrangement with the Confederation.
[22:31] <@Slacker> I'm comfortable I can counter Seti if need be
[22:31] <@Slacker> After all the Combine are a bunch of fucking papists.
[22:31] <@Slacker> Well without a Pope but whatever
01[22:32] <@Mal> Well I mean if you were hoping for a break in the system alliances...
[22:32] <@MegasZeromanikos> nay painted windows
01[22:32] <@Mal> And you'd have friends
[22:32] <@Shrike> TC just can't catch a break
01[22:32] <@Mal> Together we can stop this buck like Newtonian physics
[22:32] <@Shrike> They lose half their PCs, get dickpunched by the guys with more battleships, now the first proper PC on PC brawl
[22:33] <@Slacker> Seriously.
01[22:33] <@Mal> What is crazy is that Lambda Aurigae was the most dangerous system inherently
[22:33] <@g_g> now's not the time for in-fighting
01[22:33] <@Mal> You had two superpowers in orbit with each other and a third party spoiler
01[22:33] <@Mal> Like that was ripe for war
[22:33] <@g_g> not when FBH is gathering the Neo-ESA to march against the lot of you
01[22:33] <@Mal> And somehow...
[22:33] <@Slacker> Although Screwball is vastly better than our first Hyperborea