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- [4/18/2015 9:06:35 AM] DaveTheHeadcrab: Did Neca talk to you guys about Ponies?
- [4/18/2015 9:07:02 AM] earthdivine: not really
- [4/18/2015 9:07:32 AM] earthdivine: well he mentioned that Fox has been displeased by him
- [4/18/2015 9:07:40 AM] earthdivine: and gave us a list of things he's done
- [4/18/2015 9:08:14 AM] DaveTheHeadcrab: Thoughts on that?
- [4/18/2015 9:10:24 AM] earthdivine: I don't know what to think actually. The two early merges seem a bit blown out of proportion, the R&D Changes seems like fox being kinda petty on changing R&D, but I definatly dont like him adding his Limb Overhaul through the server rather then Github
- [4/18/2015 9:10:42 AM] DaveTheHeadcrab: I'll be blunt, Earth.
- [4/18/2015 9:11:04 AM] DaveTheHeadcrab: He's pretty much refused to bugfix for the limb overhaul
- [4/18/2015 9:11:11 AM] DaveTheHeadcrab: He put it up
- [4/18/2015 9:11:14 AM] DaveTheHeadcrab: And hasn't touched it since
- [4/18/2015 9:11:33 AM] DaveTheHeadcrab: Other people are now cleaning up what he made, and said he would fix.
- [4/18/2015 9:11:44 AM | Edited 9:11:51 AM] DaveTheHeadcrab: He was given his position back by Neca because
- [4/18/2015 9:12:05 AM] DaveTheHeadcrab: 1: Neca is very comprimising.
- [4/18/2015 9:12:15 AM] DaveTheHeadcrab: 2: Ponies promised he changed.
- [4/18/2015 9:12:27 AM] DaveTheHeadcrab: And his recent activity very clearly indicates everything to the contrary.
- [4/18/2015 9:13:31 AM] DaveTheHeadcrab: He fails to follow the basics of the maintainer guidelines he established
- [4/18/2015 9:22:10 AM] earthdivine: I'll be perfectly honest, some of this is smelling alot of people wanting to jump on him for how he used to act. Like, two early merges, one of which was not touched or talked about by anyone and more then likely wanted to include it in a server update, and one that, when I saw it, looked alot like a bug fix.
- Meteor Mode was added back without people asking, but at the same time the very same day we got a big asking for it to be readded to the rotation by the community. The problems we had with the mode are mostly gone as well.
- All that is a big problem is the Limb Overhaul and people are forgetting he spent a VERY long time with Zeuphyr, False and one other admin on a private server testing the code, comparing it against what he was writing, bay's code, and the new limb code to find out what bugs come from what. I admit he REALLY shouldn't have pure merged it but at the same time he himself knows what bugs are from what code.
- He's enjoying something he's been waiting to play for a good while, and I'm waiting until I see how he acts with his code when he's back, IMO. If he ditches it, congrats everyone is correct about him, but it feels more like people are jumping him because of past grievences.
- [4/18/2015 9:22:29 AM | Edited 9:22:31 AM] DaveTheHeadcrab: This is not just two early merges, Earth
- [4/18/2015 9:22:41 AM] DaveTheHeadcrab: This is two examples of something he does constantly.
- [4/18/2015 9:22:41 AM] earthdivine: thats all that was on the list
- [4/18/2015 9:23:25 AM] DaveTheHeadcrab: Waiting to see what?
- [4/18/2015 9:23:31 AM] DaveTheHeadcrab: He's going off to play GTAV
- [4/18/2015 9:23:37 AM] DaveTheHeadcrab: We aren't seeing him for another few weeks
- [4/18/2015 9:23:38 AM] DaveTheHeadcrab: Period.
- [4/18/2015 9:24:05 AM] earthdivine: and we haven't seen mark in longer, leaving fox, DZD and tiger working on things
- [4/18/2015 9:24:23 AM] DaveTheHeadcrab: Mark hasn't been actively destructive to the codebase.
- [4/18/2015 9:24:30 AM] DaveTheHeadcrab: Hence why we're going after Ponies first.
- [4/18/2015 9:24:43 AM] DaveTheHeadcrab: Then we'll talk to Mark and see what's up with him.
- [4/18/2015 9:24:47 AM] DaveTheHeadcrab: The fact of the matter is, Earth
- [4/18/2015 9:25:08 AM] DaveTheHeadcrab: Mark doesn't have an extremely buggy sytem that was haphazardly ported making half of medbay impossible to run
- [4/18/2015 9:25:15 AM] DaveTheHeadcrab: Sitting around waiting to be fixed.
- [4/18/2015 9:25:41 AM] earthdivine: Fox added in multiple things on his on volation with out asking people, and no ones hunting his head for it.
- [4/18/2015 9:26:06 AM] earthdivine: some of which WERE hazardous to the server
- [4/18/2015 9:26:07 AM] DaveTheHeadcrab: Like what?
- [4/18/2015 9:26:12 AM] earthdivine: and he just made them deal with it
- [4/18/2015 9:26:54 AM] earthdivine: the massive shift in power he had given security with the tasers and disablers and yanking stuff from traitors
- [4/18/2015 9:27:31 AM] DaveTheHeadcrab: What did he yank from traitors?
- [4/18/2015 9:29:41 AM] earthdivine: changing how the Ebow works, the pens, the Emag buff, I THINK he got rid of the chef sauce? I havent seen it used so IDK about that one. Then he got rid of alot of the spiece's special stuff to make every one of them similar, many of which were karma ones, without discussing anything with those who had them. Atleast Ponies insisted on giving the Slime people something to compensate their colors being lost.
- [4/18/2015 9:30:04 AM] DaveTheHeadcrab: I don't think half of this stuff was even him
- [4/18/2015 9:30:10 AM] DaveTheHeadcrab: The chef sauce was replaced with the goonchem update
- [4/18/2015 9:30:18 AM] DaveTheHeadcrab: Noone gave a crap about any of this, bar maybe the emag
- [4/18/2015 9:30:23 AM] DaveTheHeadcrab: And the only people it really affects
- [4/18/2015 9:30:23 AM] DaveTheHeadcrab: Are nukeops
- [4/18/2015 9:30:27 AM] earthdivine: Im saying Ponies did break his own guidelines but everyones jumping on him super quickly from what I seen
- [4/18/2015 9:30:33 AM] DaveTheHeadcrab: No, Earth
- [4/18/2015 9:30:37 AM] DaveTheHeadcrab: We've been trying to get him out
- [4/18/2015 9:30:39 AM] DaveTheHeadcrab: For ages
- [4/18/2015 9:31:21 AM] earthdivine: I understand what you mean, but you know my stance on it
- [4/18/2015 9:31:30 AM] DaveTheHeadcrab: Do you remember UC_Guy?
- [4/18/2015 9:32:22 AM] earthdivine: Yes I do. And I'm done discussing right now, because I am NOT in any sort of mind to talk politics. I nearly lost my job by burning a kitchen down, so I would very much like to end this here please.
- [4/18/2015 9:32:41 AM] DaveTheHeadcrab: As you wish.
- [4/18/2015 9:33:44 AM] earthdivine: Thank you, maybe I will think differently tomorrow or the next day, but right now I'm just super annoied by how fast people are jumping on him again, but that might be my stress from the near fire.
- [4/18/2015 9:37:31 AM] earthdivine: ...on that topic, grease starts to burn REALLY quickly, did you know?
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