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- Houdini 4 (3195) vs Stockfish 301114 (3222) 1-0
- TCEC Season 7 - Stage 4 | Round 8 | 2014.12.05
- http://tcec.chessdom.com/archive.php?se=7&st=4&ga=15
- Caro-Kann: Two Knights, 3...Bg4 4.h3 Bh5, 7.g4 Bg6
- Stockfish 171114 @ D=39/81, 65.8 BN
- 1. +/= (0.42): 14...Qb6 15.Nb5 Bb4+ 16.c3 a6 17.cxb4 Qxb5 18.Qxb5 axb5 <-- H4 PV & K8 best line
- 2. +/= (0.46): 14...Nf6 15.Bd2 Be7 16.0-0-0 Qxd4 17.Be3 Qe5 18.Qf3 Qc7
- 3. +/= (0.48): 14...Rb6 15.Ne4 Be7 16.c3 Nf6 17.f3 Qc7 18.Qh2 Qc6 <-- SF play (eval 0.44 @ D=34, 3439 MN)
- Komodo 8 @ D=33, 57.5 BN
- 1. = (0.18): 14...Qb6 15.Nb5 Bb4+ 16.c3 a6 17.cxb4 Qxb5 18.Qxb5 axb5 <-- H4 PV
- 2. +/= (0.35): 14...Rb6 15.d5 Nf6 16.dxe6 Bb4 17.e7+ Qxe7 18.Qxe7+ Kxe7 <-- SF play
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- Analyze position after 14...Qb6 15.Nb5 Bb4+ 16.c3 a6 17.cxb4 Qxb5 18.Qxb5 axb5
- Stockfish 171114 @ D=36, 3300 MN
- 1. +/= (0.51): 19.Be3 Ne7 20.Kd2 f6 21.Rac1 Nd5 22.Rc5 Rxc5 23.bxc5 g5 (0.44 @ D=34, 0.48 @ D=40, 0.51 @ D=44 **)
- 2. +/= (0.39): 19.Bd2 Nf6 20.Ke2 Ke7 21.Kd3 Rc4 22.a3 Rd8 23.Be3 e5
- 3. +/= (0.38): 19.Ke2 Nf6 20.Bd2 Ke7 21.Kd3 Rd8 22.Be3 e5 23.Rac1 e4+
- Komodo 8 @ D=28
- 1. = (0.23): 19.Ke2 Nf6 20.Bd2 Ke7 21.a3 Rc2 22.Kd3 Rc4 23.Be3 Kd6 (0.18 @ D=33, 0.23 @ D=42 **)
- 2. = (0.23): 19.Be3 Ne7 20.Kd2 f5 21.a3 Nd5 22.Bg5 Nb6 23.Kd3 Kf7
- 3. = (0.22): 19.Bd2 f6 20.Ke2 Kf7 21.Rac1 Ne7 22.Rc5 b6 23.Rxc6 Nxc6
- ** virtual Depth adjusted to 14. .. Rb6
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- Analyze position after 19.Be3 Ne7 20.Kd2 (common part of best PV both for SF & K8)
- Komodo 8 @ D=24
- 1. = (0.19): 20...f5 21.Rac1 Nd5 22.Rxc6 bxc6 23.Bg5 Nxb4
- 2. = (0.22): 20...Rc4 21.a3 Nd5 22.Kd3 Ke7 23.Rac1 Rhc8
- 3. = (0.24): 20...Nd5 21.a3 Ke7 22.Rac1 Rxc1 23.Kxc1 f6
- 4. +/= (0.26): 20...f6 21.h4 Nd5 22.a3 Ke7 23.Kd3 Rc4
- Stockfish 171114 @ D=30
- 1. +/= (0.45): 20...Rc4 21.Rac1 Nd5 22.a3 Ke7 23.Kd3 Nxe3
- 2. +/= (0.45): 20...Nd5 21.a3 Ke7 22.Kd3 Rc4 23.Rac1 Nxe3
- 3. +/= (0.65): 20...f6 21.h4 Rd6 22.Rac1 Nc6 23.Rc5 g5
- 4. +/= (0.65): 20...f5 21.a3 Rc4 22.Kd3 Kf7 23.Rac1 Rxc1
- Analysis by Houdini 4 @ D=28, 953 MN
- 1. +/= (0.32): 20...f6 21.Rac1 Nd5 22.Rc5 Rxc5 23.bxc5 g5
- 2. +/= (0.38): 20...f5 21.a3 Kf7 22.f3 Nd5 23.Bg5 Nb6
- 3. +/= (0.42): 20...Nd5 21.a3 Ke7 22.Kd3 Rc4 23.h4 Rd8
- Here we see that 20...f5 evaluates completely different 0.19 (Komodo) and 0.65 (Stockfish)
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- Analyze position after 20.Kd2 f5
- 5k1r/1p2n1p1/2r1p1p1/1p3p2/1P1P2P1/4B2P/PP1K1P2/R6R w - f6 0 21
- Analysis by Stockfish 171114 @ D=26
- 1. +/= (0.61): 21.a3 Kf7 22.f3 Rc4 23.Rac1 Nd5 24.Rxc4 bxc4
- 2. +/= (0.48): 21.f3 Nd5 22.a3 f4 23.Bf2 Kf7 24.h4 Rc4
- 3. +/= (0.44): 21.Kd3 Kf7 22.a3 Rd6 23.Ke2 Rc6 24.Kf3 Nd5
- 4. = (0.24): 21.Rac1 Nd5 22.Rxc6 bxc6 23.Bg5 Nxb4 24.h4 Ke8
- the same position is evaluated comletely different by Komodo
- Analysis by Komodo 8 @ D=24
- 1. = (0.21): 21.a3 Nd5 22.Kd3 f4 23.Bd2 g5 24.Rac1 Rxc1
- 2. = (0.17): 21.f3 Nd5 22.a3 f4 23.Bf2 Kf7 24.Rac1 Rc4
- 3. = (0.17): 21.Kd3 Rd6 22.Rac1 Nc6 23.Ke2 Kf7 24.Kf3 Nxd4+
- 4. = (0.00): 21.Bg5 Rd6 22.Bxe7+ Kxe7 23.Ke3 g5 24.Rac1 Kf6
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- Analyze position after 21.a3 Kf7
- 7r/1p2nkp1/2r1p1p1/1p3p2/1P1P2P1/P3B2P/1P1K1P2/R6R w - - 0 22
- Analysis by Komodo 8 @ D=22
- 1. +/= (0.29): 22.Kd3 Nd5 23.h4 fxg4 24.Rag1 Rhc8 25.Rc1 Rc4
- 2. = (0.25): 22.Rab1 Nd5 23.Kd3 f4 24.Bd2 g5 25.Rbc1 Rxc1
- 3. = (0.25): 22.Rad1 Nd5 23.Kd3 f4 24.Bd2 g5 25.Rc1 Rxc1
- 4. = (0.19): 22.f3 Nd5 23.Bg5 Nb6 24.Kd3 Rd6 25.Bf4 Rd7
- 5. = (0.05): 22.h4 fxg4 23.Rac1 Nf5 24.Kd3 Rxh4 25.Rxh4 Rxc1
- 6. = (0.00): 22.Ke2 Rc2+ 23.Kd3 Rxb2 24.Kc3 Re2 25.Kd3 Rb2
- Stockfish 171114 @ D=26
- 1. +/= (0.69): 22.f3 Nd5 23.Bg5 Rc4 24.Kd3 Nf6
- 2. +/= (0.46): 22.Rad1 Rd6 23.Ke2 Nc6 24.gxf5 gxf5
- 3. +/= (0.43): 22.Rab1 Rd6 23.Ke2 Nc6 24.Rbd1 Rd5
- 4. +/= (0.39): 22.Rag1 Rd6 23.Ke2 Nc6 24.Rd1 Rhd8
- 5. +/= (0.36): 22.Kd3 Rd6 23.Rac1 Nc6 24.Rc5 b6
- 6. +/= (0.36): 22.Raf1 Nd5 23.Kd3 Rc4 24.Rc1 Rxc1
- 7. +/= (0.34): 22.Rae1 Rd6 23.Ke2 Nc6 24.Rd1 Rhd8
- 8. = (0.25): 22.Bf4 Nd5 23.Bg5 Nf6 24.Kd3 Rd8
- 9. = (0.22): 22.h4 fxg4 23.Kd3 Nf5 24.Rag1 Rhc8
- 10. = (0.17): 22.gxf5 gxf5 23.f3 Rd6 24.Ke2 Nc6
- 11. = (0.08): 22.Bg5 Rc4 23.Ke3 Rc2 24.Rab1 Nd5+
- 12. = (0.00): 22.Ke2 Rc2+ 23.Kd3 Rxb2 24.Kc3 Re2
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- Analyze position after 22.f3 Nd5 23.Bg5
- 7r/1p3kp1/2r1p1p1/1p1n1pB1/1P1P2P1/P4P1P/1P1K4/R6R b - - 0 23
- Stockfish 171114 @ D=31
- 1. +/- (0.73): 23...Rc4 24.Kd3 Nf6 25.gxf5 gxf5 26.Rac1 Rhc8
- 2. +/- (0.73): 23...Nf6 24.Kd3 Rc4 25.gxf5 gxf5 26.Rac1 Rhc8
- 3. +/- (0.77): 23...Rc7 24.Rac1 Rc4 25.Kd3 Rhc8 26.h4 R8c6
- 4. +/- (0.80): 23...Rcc8 24.Rac1 Rc4 25.Kd3 Rhc8 26.h4 R8c6
- 5. +/- (0.80): 23...Nb6 24.Kd3 Nc4 25.Rh2 Rd6 26.Re1 Rd7
- Komodo 8 @ D=27
- 1. +/= (0.36): 23...Nb6 24.Kd3 Nc4 25.Rh2 Rd6 26.Re1 Rd7
- 2. +/= (0.39): 23...Rhc8 24.Kd3 Rc4 25.Rhe1 Rh8 26.h4 Rhc8
- 3. +/= (0.40): 23...Rc4 24.Kd3 Rhc8 25.Rhe1 Rh8 26.h4 Rhc8
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- Analyze position after 23...Nb6 24.Kd3 Nc4 25.Rh2 Rd6 26.Re1 Rd7 - common PV (+0.36 by K8, +0.80 by SF)
- 7r/1p1r1kp1/4p1p1/1p3pB1/1PnP2P1/P2K1P1P/1P5R/4R3 w - - 0 27
- Komodo 8 @ D=26
- 1. +/= (0.54): 27.h4 e5 28.b3 Ra8 29.Bc1 e4+ 30.Kc3 Nd6
- 2. +/= (0.30): 27.b3 Nb6 28.Kc3 Nd5+ 29.Kb2 Nf6 30.Re5 fxg4
- 3. = (0.22): 27.gxf5 gxf5 28.h4 e5 29.b3 e4+ 30.Kc2 Nd6
- Stockfish 171114 @ D=29
- 1. +/- (0.89): 27.h4 e5 28.Kc2 Rc8 29.b3 Nd6+ 30.Kb2 exd4
- 2. +/= (0.69): 27.gxf5 gxf5 28.h4 e5 29.Kc2 exd4 30.Kd3 g6
- 3. +/= (0.62): 27.b3 Nb6 28.h4 Ra8 29.Bc1 Rad8 30.Bb2 Nd5
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- Let check if 21.a3 Nd5 (Komodo .. Nd5 for black, Kf7 was 0.29 vs 0.21 and raise to 0.54 at Move 27 +D=26) is drawish
- 22. Kd3
- Komodo 8 @ Depth: 32 576mN, tb=12 744
- = (0.24) 22...f4 23.Bd2 g5 24.Rac1 Rxc1 25.Bxc1 Nf6 26.f3 Nd5 27.Bd2 Kf7
- After 22...f4 23.Bd2 g5 24.Rac1 Rxc1 25.Bxc1
- Komodo 8 @ Depth: 35 1 586mN, tb=495 635 [syzygy 6-men]
- = (0.22) 25...Kf7 26.Bd2 Kg6 27.Bc3 Kf6 28.f3 Ne3 29.Be1 Kf7 30.Bd2 Nd5
- Komodo 8 @ Depth: 31 227mN, tb=14 542
- = (0.18) 31.Bc3 Nb6 32.Rh2 Nd5 33.Bd2 Kf6 34.Be1 Rc8 35.Bc3 Rh8
- Komodo 8 @ Depth: 30 103mN, tb=38 000
- = (0.00) 36.Ke4 Kf7 37.Ke5 Rc8 38.Bd2 Rh8 39.Ke4 Kf6 40.Kd3 Kf7
- Look like drawish fortress
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- SUMMARY:
- Stockfish avoided best (drawish) move 14...Qb6 and played losing line 14...Rb6
- (no better moves for black between 15 and 20, and eval go beyond 0.8 after 20th move)
- Misevaluated position after 18.Qxb5 axb5 is:
- 5knr/1p3pp1/2r1p1p1/1p6/1P1P2P1/7P/PP3P2/R1B1K2R w KQ - 0 19
- Stockfish evaluate this ~+0.5 while the same TOP-3 moves Komodo evaluate ~+0.23
- this position can be narrowed to position after 19.Be3 Ne7 20.Kd2
- 5k1r/1p2npp1/2r1p1p1/1p6/1P1P2P1/4B2P/PP1K1P2/R6R b - - 0 20
- and even more to 20.Kd2 f5
- 5k1r/1p2n1p1/2r1p1p1/1p3p2/1P1P2P1/4B2P/PP1K1P2/R6R w - f6 0 21
- Stockfish evaluate this position as very good for white (that's why SF avoided 14...Qb6)
- While Komodo & Houdini treat this very drawish.
- 14...Qb6 lead to drawish fortress, but for SF there is other caveat: SF prefer 21. .. Kf7 leading to eval >0.5 after 27 move
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