[11:31:14 AM] Khya Shaver: Mind if I bounce ideas off you, it turns out one of my characters has a ton of art on safebooru and I'm getting dev ideas
[11:31:39 AM] Guard Dog of Hades: Go ahead~
[11:31:41 AM] Khya Shaver: http://manaverse.zejroleplaying.org/index.php?title=User:Keileon#Notes
[11:31:48 AM] Khya Shaver: Scroll down to Aryn's section
[11:32:08 AM] Khya Shaver: Most notably the part where it mentions she has a ton of art
[11:32:40 AM] Khya Shaver: (like, look, this isn't even all of it  http://puu.sh/qm7qa/881dcd63ff.png )
[11:33:54 AM] Guard Dog of Hades: Wow, that artist must really like drawing her
She looks like a fun character to work with
[11:34:03 AM] Khya Shaver: Yeah
[11:36:12 AM] Guard Dog of Hades: "As Aryn gets older (provided she doesn't die) her summoning magic becomes more refined and thus Protas and Drasa become more detailed" I like that explanation
[11:36:47 AM] Khya Shaver: Yeah I found that image of the two foxes on FA and thought "these need to be protas and drasa"
[11:38:37 AM] Khya Shaver: Also in case you were curious, this is the file that had the name "ARYN WHAT ARE YOU DOING"
[11:38:38 AM] Khya Shaver: http://puu.sh/qm68H/647bb330da.jpeg
[11:39:12 AM] Guard Dog of Hades: Just fighting Rayquaza, no big deal
[11:39:55 AM] Khya Shaver: (Also, that looks like it might be the same place with the bridge)
[11:42:28 AM] Guard Dog of Hades: So I have no idea what happens in Rinul CP or what kind of planet Rinul is, but the idea of her travelling around to other worlds just to explore and see them and have misadventures to compensate for being kept on the property after her brother's death seems like a really interesting premise
[11:42:52 AM] Khya Shaver: Yeah, I was considering that
[11:42:55 AM] Khya Shaver: The only issue
[11:43:26 AM] Khya Shaver: Is that might have to be in Drei, and... well, Drei's dealing with space demon invasions
[11:44:21 AM] Khya Shaver: So it's a mix of "what if Rinul CP doesn't lend to this" and "why would Aryn go offworld when her planet is fighting the Vodera"
[11:49:55 AM] Guard Dog of Hades: For the latter, unless you know she specifically wouldn't leave in that scenario, it doesn't seem like it should be a deterrent. It seems like her family has some money, so maybe they arranged to send her away somehow?
[11:50:38 AM] Khya Shaver: Not likely- Rinul would be one of the safest planets- but since I feel like she ran away, maybe she just took the money
[11:52:14 AM] Guard Dog of Hades: If it's within her character to do that, it sets up extremely well for interesting conflicts. Having to confront the fact she left her remaining family behind, having to figure out how to deal with that, and find her place as a traveler on foreign planets...
[11:52:31 AM] Khya Shaver: (Just sent Zio a text asking "how do you feel about drei involving rowan chasing a runaway aryn through the manaverse while dodging voders")
[11:52:34 AM] Khya Shaver: *vodera
[11:53:19 AM] Guard Dog of Hades: That honestly seems like a story I'd be really interested in reading
[11:53:31 AM] Khya Shaver: Ahah, I'll keep that in mind


[11:58:56]	Ziolang	lolthatpastebin
[11:59:37]	Keileon	yes
[11:59:58]	Keileon	this could actually potentially make a great 1x1 if you're up for the idea
[12:00:50]	Ziolang	>Rowan finds out Aryn skipped town
[12:01:13]	Keileon	>Rowan finds out Aryn skipped planet
[12:01:14]	Ziolang	>Rowan learns space travel just to find her
[12:01:46]	Keileon	He probably would leave the same way Aryn did tbh
[12:02:01]	Ziolang	He'll rent a spaceship
[12:02:19]	Ziolang	>Vodera raiding party find his ship
[12:02:20]	Keileon	Also Aldon probably pays him a LOT to go find and retrieve Aryn
[12:02:27]	Ziolang	*sigh* "This is a rental =/"
[12:03:00]	Ziolang	I like how Drei is basically manaverse star wars
[12:03:03]	Keileon	^
[12:03:25]	Keileon	So y/n?
[12:03:29]	Keileon	m?
[12:04:35]	Ziolang	I mean
[12:04:51]	Ziolang	It all depends on whether Rowan is even employed in Drei
[12:05:03]	Keileon	I think we established yes
[12:05:14]	Ziolang	But proceeding under the assumption that he is, then probably
[12:05:33]	Keileon	Because you mentioned if not then Ralara wouldn't exist and I went "okay kyllan needs to die regardless rip kyllan"
[12:08:27]	Ziolang	Ooh, would Rowan and Kala be An Thing by then?
[12:08:30]	Keileon	but yes the adventures of aryn and rowan
[12:08:31]	Keileon	idk
[12:08:37]	Keileon	Depends on when she runs away
[12:08:51]	Ziolang	Rowan and Kala, space couple
[12:08:56]	Keileon	lol
[12:09:26]	Ziolang	>mfw Rowan's space adventures prevent him from marrying Kala
[12:09:31]	Keileon	LOL
[12:09:44]	Ziolang	>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>mfw Rowan and Tiran a buddies in Drei
[12:09:51]	Keileon	I dunno they could get married when he com-- LOL WHAT HOW
[12:10:08]	Ziolang	Just a thought that popped in my head
[12:10:14]	Keileon	Ah okay
[12:10:26]	Keileon	Also
[12:10:28]	Keileon	Just
[12:10:29]	Keileon	http://puu.sh/qm68H/647bb330da.jpeg
[12:10:33]	Keileon	>This is Aryn
[12:10:37]	Keileon	>Fighting a thing
[12:10:48]	Keileon	>That could swallow her whole
[12:12:09]	Keileon	I still need to figure out where she goes, though
[12:12:18]	Ziolang	>Fighting it
[12:12:27]	Ziolang	>Looks more like she summoned it
[12:12:40]	Keileon	Oh /god/ I didn't consider that...
[12:12:53]	Ziolang	Notice it /rising from the ground/ ???
[12:13:11]	Keileon	And normally I /wouldn't/ consider that but >she is A SUMMONER
[12:13:18]	Keileon	ARYN WHAT ARE YOU DOING
[12:13:19]	Ziolang	^
[12:13:19]	Keileon	ARYN
[12:13:20]	Keileon	STOP
[12:13:26]	Ziolang	!
[12:13:28]	Ziolang	!!!!
[12:13:29]	Ziolang	!!!!!!!!!
[12:13:32]	Ziolang	Even better
[12:13:34]	Ziolang	EVEN
[12:13:36]	Ziolang	BETTER
[12:13:44]	Ziolang	She summoned it
[12:13:48]	Ziolang	But couldn't control it
[12:13:52]	Ziolang	And is now fighting it
[12:13:56]	Keileon	SHE SUMMONED IT TO FIGHT THE VODERA AND IT WENT NUTS
[12:14:02]	Ziolang	^
[12:14:07]	Ziolang	2
[12:14:08]	Ziolang	+
[12:14:10]	Ziolang	2
[12:14:11]	Ziolang	=
[12:14:14]	Ziolang	dragon thing
[12:14:24]	Ziolang	gg folks
[12:14:29]	Keileon	(cerberus since we were talking on skype)
[12:14:39]	Keileon	Dear god Aryn what have you done lol
[12:14:43]	Ziolang	Come one come all and watch Kuda's brain melt
[12:15:04]	Keileon	rip whatever planet this is
[12:15:12]	Ziolang	inb4terra
[12:15:16]	Keileon	oh god
[12:15:24]	fryborg	[cerberuslycan] cya discount Earth
[12:15:40]	Keileon	Well no I don't think Ereva would do well on Terra
[12:15:50]	Keileon	Low Mana density(?) iirc
[12:16:03]	Keileon	Also there's this nifty image  http://puu.sh/qma0v/1beb7de815.jpg
[12:16:10]	Ziolang	I bet she saw that creature in the latest Summoner's Weekly Catalog
[12:16:35]	Ziolang	Ok she's definitely on some kind of planet with plant problems
[12:16:53]	Ziolang	We should make that planet now
[12:16:57]	Keileon	Or just in an overgrown, ruined area
[12:17:08]	Ziolang	Key feature: Overgrown everything
[12:17:19]	Keileon	Only if you dev it with me I don't need four solo planets
[12:17:32]	Ziolang	Do you see how polished those floors are though? It still looks used
[12:17:41]	Keileon	Yes but there's MOSS GROWING ON IT
[12:17:47]	Ziolang	Yes
[12:17:53]	Ziolang	It's a planet problem
[12:17:58]	Ziolang	They learned to deal with it
[12:18:08]	Ziolang	Plants that just grow overnight
[12:18:23]	Ziolang	*wake up* NOT AGAIN
[12:18:35]	Keileon	It also looke like the roof is busted, beyond the second story
[12:18:48]	Keileon	Er. Third?
[12:18:57]	Keileon	How many floors does this library /have/
[12:19:30]	Keileon	... I count like 6-7 if those lines are ledges and not just wood texture
[12:19:32]	fryborg	[cerberuslycan] Could just be a skylight, although maybe they don't build roofs on this hypothetical planet
[12:19:39]	Ziolang	That's a skylight, yeah
[12:19:43]	fryborg	[cerberuslycan] So the sun can reach the plants so they can grow more :D
[12:19:56]	Keileon	I kind of just want to feature an abandoned, ruined library tbh
[12:20:07]	Ziolang	I dunno I'm kinda digging this weird plant world thing
[12:20:22]	Keileon	maybe it's abandoned because the plants took over
[12:21:14]	Ziolang	They have to hire plant fighters just to keep their buildings from getting overrun lol
[12:21:55]	Keileon	aryn contemplates running away into space  http://puu.sh/qmakE/50afa13be8.jpg
[12:22:11]	Keileon	(Canon: the Skycrowns have that pond thing on their estate)
[12:22:28]	Keileon	((also lookit that sky reflection))
[12:23:36]	Keileon	This file is literally titled "Aryn if she was in T13"  http://puu.sh/qmaqs/c39f06cfab.jpg
[12:26:58]	Keileon	Gods now I have to consider that maybe Aryn summoned a giant dragon thing for whatever reason
[12:27:36]	Ziolang	enjoy the implications
[12:27:59]	Keileon	The main implication being that /she was powerful enough to do that/
[12:28:51]	Ziolang	Not necessarily
[12:29:11]	Ziolang	She could have used shortcuts, being a key factor in her losing control of it
[12:29:21]	Keileon	Good point
[12:30:03]	Keileon	What even is it. Why did she summon it. Did the Vodera just randomly find plant world why do they even want it
[12:30:10]	Keileon	It's just PLANTS
[12:30:36]	Keileon	My brain was already fried from lack of sleep and now it's
[12:30:37]	Keileon	just
[12:30:39]	Keileon	what is this
[12:31:09]	Ziolang	*shrugs*
[12:31:23]	Ziolang	A dragon thing, obviously
[12:31:41]	Keileon	Moreover are we actually doing plant world it seems a... gimmicky concept
[12:31:48]	Ziolang	>>>>>>>>She summons it on Rowan when he finally catches up to her
[12:31:53]	Keileon	LOL WHY
[12:32:00]	Ziolang	*shrugs*
[12:32:19]	Ziolang	She just straight summons the wrong thing
[12:32:36]	Keileon	Also I found this, same artist  http://puu.sh/qmaWV/28733813f7.jpg
[12:33:34]	Keileon	...
[12:33:52]	Keileon	Hey Zio, what do the Vodera do after they take a planet and all the natives are ded
[12:34:54]	Keileon	What if the reason Plant World is overgrown is because the Vodera took it and then idk either they left it behind or the resistance pushed them out or there just aren't enough vodera that Aryn would immediately get murdered
[12:36:05]	Keileon	In the image with the bridge, the city doesn't just look overgrown, it looks /abandoned/
[12:37:05]	Ziolang	Well
[12:37:22]	Ziolang	I suppose they could've all ditched off-world when they found out Vodera were nearby
[12:37:40]	Keileon	Oh god
[12:37:43]	Keileon	Okay like
[12:37:56]	Ziolang	What's with the giant tree shoots?
[12:38:04]	Keileon	>Plant World people abandon ship when vodera invasion starts reaching them
[12:38:15]	Keileon	>Aryn randomly gets there first
[12:38:29]	Keileon	>Rowan catches up to aryn about when the Vodera arrive
[12:38:30]	Keileon	??
[12:38:52]	Ziolang	Aliens
[12:39:07]	Keileon	Though I kind of like the idea of the planet having already been taken. Maybe the vodera are doing maint to revorpalize it after the resistance cleared them out
[12:39:33]	Ziolang	What if the planet was just...
[12:39:36]	Ziolang	An anomoly
[12:39:44]	Keileon	*anomaly, and how so
[12:39:45]	Ziolang	And straight resisted Vorpalization?
[12:39:47]	Keileon	oh
[12:39:50]	Keileon	ohhhh
[12:39:56]	Keileon	I like that.
[12:40:21]	Ziolang	Those shoots could be some planar effect caused by the anti-vorpal resistance
[12:40:43]	Keileon	Mana trees
[12:40:53]	Keileon	Instead of giving off oxygen they give off mana
[12:41:11]	Keileon	Which continuously normalizes the Vorpal
[12:41:13]	Ziolang	Or they just cycle out the Vorpal
[12:41:21]	Keileon	And since these things basically grow overnight...
[12:41:52]	Ziolang	So mana-heavy, fast growing plant world abandoned due to eminent invasion ultimately has no troubles with Vodera cause Vorpalization wouldn't take
[12:42:04]	Keileon	So tl;dr the planet just cycles Mana so quickly the Vodera can't keep up
[12:42:22]	Ziolang	Aryn finds it all abandoned but /heavily charged/ with mana. Perfect for summoning practice
[12:42:31]	Keileon	oh god what is this becoming
[12:42:40]	Ziolang	*shrugs*
[12:42:47]	Keileon	stop shrugging
[12:42:47]	Ziolang	Are we logging this convo for Shadow?
[12:42:56]	Keileon	I'll pastebin it when he arrives
[12:43:18]	Ziolang	He's not on for another hour is he =/
[12:43:22]	Keileon	unless you want to
[12:43:27]	Keileon	He was on ZEJ a bit ago
[12:43:30]	Ziolang	either way
[12:43:41]	Ziolang	More likely to be remembered if you do it tho =x
[12:43:46]	Keileon	fair
[12:43:49]	Keileon	But like
[12:43:50]	Keileon	Aryn
[12:43:51]	Keileon	pls
[12:43:57]	Keileon	She just like
[12:44:08]	Keileon	HAPPENED to find the perfect world for a runaway Ereva
[12:45:01]	Ziolang	Um
[12:45:10]	Ziolang	Natural Erevan affinity draws her toward it?
[12:45:13]	Ziolang	ezpz
[12:45:27]	Keileon	I wasn't questioning the probability
[12:45:35]	Ziolang	oh
[12:45:38]	Ziolang	k
[12:45:42]	Keileon	Just that the circumstances are... what
[12:45:59]	Ziolang	ah yeah well
[12:46:01]	Ziolang	you know
[12:46:08]	Ziolang	Welcome to late night dev
[12:46:09]	Keileon	HOW DOES SHE EVEN GET THERE
[12:46:09]	Ziolang	at
[12:46:13]	Ziolang	12
[12:46:16]	Keileon	^
[12:46:31]	Keileon	tbf I got four hours of sleep
[12:46:33]	Ziolang	*shrugs*
[12:46:34]	Keileon	so
[12:46:37]	Keileon	close enough
[12:46:43]	Ziolang	>mfw she never went offworld
[12:46:46]	Keileon	No really how the hell would she get there
[12:46:47]	Keileon	LOL
[12:46:56]	Ziolang	>Father thinks she did so sends Rowan
[12:47:04]	Ziolang	>She stows with Rowan
[12:47:08]	Keileon	LMAO
[12:47:19]	Ziolang	>Rowan finds the most mana-rich planet he can assuming she'd be there
[12:47:29]	Keileon	Aryn: Profit! :D
[12:47:35]	Ziolang	[At least a good place to start]
[12:47:40]	Ziolang	Yeah pretty much
[12:47:59]	Keileon	Considering Rinul and Plantworld are both heavily Mana-rich
[12:48:08]	Keileon	Maybe that's a good starting point too
[12:48:19]	Ziolang	Heck, plant-world refugees could gone /to Rinul/
[12:48:54]	Ziolang	Rinul would probably be a core, relatively well-known planet in the resistance
[12:49:01]	Keileon	Likely
[12:49:11]	Keileon	Rinul/Vindrgard/Crysia are the big three here
[12:49:33]	Ziolang	Then Deveron, Euthora, Texas
[12:49:35]	Ziolang	=x
[12:49:39]	Keileon	>Texas
[12:50:28]	Ziolang	>Texas left more than just the union
[12:50:53]	Ziolang	What am I even anymore
[12:50:58]	Keileon	Haha
[12:51:34]	Keileon	That doesn't solve the issue though. Maybe Rinul and Plantworld both have Manacles and they were used both for refugees and spoiled runaway foxgirl
[12:52:33]	Keileon	( http://manaverse.zejroleplaying.org/index.php?title=Manacle )
[12:52:49]	Keileon	I know they can transport people it just doesn't seem to mention that
[12:53:05]	Ziolang	Hm
[12:53:07]	Ziolang	Maybe
[12:53:15]	Ziolang	Shadow where are you when I need you
[12:53:35]	Keileon	Rather, we may also need Starr since Manacles are her concept
[12:55:32]	Ziolang	Assemble the manaverse
[12:55:44]	Ziolang	We have things to talk about~
[12:55:50]	Keileon	yes
[12:56:16]	Keileon	including a new planet that appeared in less than an hour just like the plants that grow on it
[12:56:54]	Ziolang	Well, they might not be that gimmicky now that we know it is in fact abandoned
[12:57:07]	Keileon	Yeah
[12:57:27]	Ziolang	They're like... plant versions of Rinul's crystals
[12:57:29]	Keileon	ohh
[12:57:33]	Keileon	So um
[12:57:37]	Keileon	Timing-wise
[12:57:39]	Ziolang	Birth plants?
[12:58:10]	Keileon	Aryn (and Rowan) would likely have to get to plantworld while or shortly after the refugees are coming in
[12:58:13]	Keileon	Which means
[12:58:14]	Ziolang	Citizens of plant-world are born with flowers growing out of their heads.
[12:58:23]	Keileon	They'll be on plantworld *during* the invasion
[12:58:34]	Ziolang	Possibly
[12:58:57]	Ziolang	Dependent upon how skiddish these people are about Vodera

[13:13:08]	Keileon	I guess Aryn and Rowan'll just have to hide out while the Vodera try and fail to vorpalize the planet
[13:14:49]	Ziolang	>mfw they witness a crucial detail for overcoming Vorpal
[13:14:55]	Keileon	^^^^^^^^
[13:15:05]	Ziolang	Plant more gardens
[13:15:20]	Keileon	This 1x1 could actually end up being /critical/ in the war
[13:15:40]	Keileon	brb
[13:16:30]	Ziolang	k
[13:18:19]	Keileon	Back
[13:18:44]	Keileon	This entire conversation has basically been "well that escalated quickly"
[13:19:32]	Keileon	And it all started when you said it looked like Aryn was summoning the thing not fighting it