<anarchystar> VICTORY
[12:20] <cost> BTC are not listed as debt
[12:21] <cost> Because he intended to give it back as btc
[12:21] <SuSEno> anarchystar: VICTORY <-- seriously??
[12:21] <lkjhgfd> http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/mtgox-and-nobuaki-kobayashi-provide-more-time-for-sponsors-to-to-submit-plans-of-rehabilitation?lang=en-GB
[12:21] <sobriket> tholu: i haven't been able to find it, but recent transactions are frequently published by someone who understandably wants to keep it a secret
[12:21] <SuSEno> anarchystar: I am waiting for your comments :-D
[12:21] <anarchystar> yes, this is the best thing that could happen
[12:21] <anarchystar> karpeles has been removed, hes done and finished
[12:21] <cost> why people are saying that it will be converted to fiat? I didn't read this anywhere on MtGox announcements
[12:21] <anarchystar> administrator took on all the assets, and will 99% sure liquidate
[12:21] <anarchystar> which means we will see those 200k distributed asap
[12:22] <anarchystar> (1 year, max 1.5 years)
[12:22] <papa> anarchystar,people will loose all in this how can it be victory???
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[12:22] <SuSEno> anarchystar: karpeles has been removed, hes done and finished <-- I am happy with this :-D
[12:22] <cost> because he is bootstraping a  new exchange for us
[12:22] <anarchystar> instead of mark or other guys keeping them hostage and restarting with his crappy code
[12:22] <cost> i hope so =P
[12:22] <anarchystar> guys, this creates all uncertainties and bullshit
[12:22] <thijs> The hate campain worked, so yes, i guess the active participants/haters in that campain can be happy
[12:22] <sobriket> anarchystar: i agree with the mk removal being a good thing
[12:23] <anarchystar> no way a restart of mtgox would have ever gotten people to put money in there again.. its burned and finished
[12:23] <sobriket> But may i ask, after your bb withdrawal, did you actually have cash or btc left in mtgox?
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[12:23] <SuSEno> anarchystar: administrator took on all the assets, and will 99% sure liquidate <-- I was hoping that you take over Gox replacing Karpeles as CEO and rehab our funds
[12:24] <thijs> So mk can spend his 400k btc wallet in peace now? *great* :(
[12:24] <cost> is sad that no info on the lost coins is given, he is just going to walk away with that bullshit history?
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[12:25] <cost> @anarchystar can you give us a more detailed view of what is to expect?
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[12:25] <papa> c est du n importe quoi
[12:26] <yerp> cost: i'm just speculating its going to be converted.
[12:26] <papa> if there is noone who will buy this crap ,we ll get less than the 200k as there is fiat debt also
[12:26] <thijs> CI mark n'est plus le ceo,... is he free to talk about possible investigations and whotnots??
[12:27] <SuSEno> probably now Karpeles will face criminal investigation
[12:27] <cost> but isn't easier to just distribute as btc?
[12:28] <cost> imagine all fiat transfer for everywhere around the world
[12:28] <anarchystar> SuSEno: taking over mtgox or restarting it is a pipe dream :)
[12:28] <anarchystar> thats why i just began a new exchange and will give a % to ex creditors, but thats irrelevant to the decision - its a great decision no matter what
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[12:29] <anarchystar> cost: take 1 to 1.5 years, i will keep you informed on when you need to file your creditor claims
[12:29] <jutajata> anarchystar how is the new exchange going?
[12:29] <cost> anarchystar thanks
[12:29] <anarchystar> cost: we will also push the court for paying us back in bitcoins, in every possible way we can.. it might happen
[12:29] <SuSEno> anarchystar: if taking over or restarting MtGox is not possible at least we want some truth on what happened on MtGox that make us lost money right? :-)
[12:30] <anarchystar> SuSEno: yes for sure, but trust me, the supervisor knows a lot thats not public and which probably made him take this decision.. i will make it public in due time
[12:30] <faouanima> Q. How many bitcoins or how much cash does the Company have on deposit?
[12:30] <faouanima> A. The properties of the Company will be administrated by the provisional administrator, and it is
[12:30] <faouanima> expected that the actual amount and value of bitcoins will be investigated by the provisional
[12:30] <faouanima> administrator or, if the bankruptcy proceedings commence, the bankruptcy trustee (it is expected that
[12:30] <faouanima> certain experts may be involved).
[12:30] <jutajata> <SuSEno> anarchystar: if taking over or restarting MtGox is not possible at least we want some truth on what happened on MtGox that make us lost money right? :-) <-- Agree
[12:30] <faouanima> and its something logic what they say? lol
[12:30] <anarchystar> jutajata: going good.. might still take weeks though
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[12:30] <faouanima> after near 2 month they still dont know how much they have and howm uch they lost???
[12:31] <anarchystar> also the administrator can now start looking into the servers properly and get the police to look also.. we will help them by providing experts if necessary
[12:31] <anarchystar> we have proposed it before
[12:31] <anarchystar> they might do it
[12:31] <Dr-G2> you're not allowed to question the bureaucrats, or people will call you  a conspiracist douchebag
[12:32] <anarchystar> i will do a post to the blog and send out a mailing in the next day(s)
[12:32] <jutajata> nice
[12:32] <anarchystar> but trust me that this is really good news
[12:32] <SuSEno> anarchystar: also the administrator can now start looking into the servers properly and get the police to look also.. we will help them by providing experts if necessary <-- that's Good News
[12:32] <jutajata> i think it will be better for our new exchange if gox is dead and gone
[12:32] <esse-> hope they distribute fiat as fiat and btc as btc - if so customer funds (btc) missing will get us about 40% returned.. that would be great
[12:32] <anarchystar> im also pretty sure the admin concluded this because they failed to proove the security of the code, and also because of all the criminal things mark has done
[12:32] <jutajata> all the attention on us now
[12:33] <SuSEno> anarchystar: also if supervisor decide to liquidate all MtGox assets. Probably you want to make a bid for his 3 letter domain (gox.com) and customer base.
[12:33] <anarchystar> this is the short pain, but the correct one and the best outcome for everyone.. definitely the most realistic one
[12:33] <jutajata> anarchystar any chance mark will end up in jail?
[12:34] <anarchystar> jutajata: i hope so, i dont know.. he has done illegal things for sure.. but maybe they are not considered grave enough for jail
[12:34] <SuSEno> anarchystar: and probably you want to hire ex MtGox employee who lost job because mark karpeles deed
[12:34] <anarchystar> japan has a 99% conviction rate
[12:34] <anarchystar> SuSEno: gox, to make a parody? :) i would never use that domain
[12:34] <anarchystar> being associated with gox is only bad
[12:35] <anarchystar> ok i gotta run
[12:35] <anarchystar> great day
[12:35] <jutajata> thanks
[12:35] <anarchystar> you have an outcome on getting back your money now.. even if its 200k
[12:35] <SuSEno> Thanks for your comments anarchystar
[12:35] <yerp> a gox dice site may be appropriate though.
[12:35] <anarchystar> np
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[12:36] <SuSEno> anarchystar: and thanks for your team for the hard work too