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  1. [08:42] <Yrr> yo i confirmed that my attempt submission was botched so it didnt happen
  2. [08:43] <Yrr> did you make an attempt last night
  3. [09:53] <SonicProject> well tbh I tried to go after nabber since he kept targeting ya but I forgot to add monokuma to the pm so it didn't go through, I hate MW's pm system
  4. [09:54] <Yrr> ok so
  5. [09:54] <Yrr> theres two possibilities
  6. [09:54] <Yrr> whether or not two is lying is irrelevant since it doesnt actually affect the possibilities
  7. [09:54] <Yrr> the hinge is you here
  8. [09:54] <Yrr> either its agastya or you
  9. [09:55] <Yrr> how willing would you be to hedge your bets on agastya
  10. [09:55] <SonicProject> or there's someone else involved and agastya is a misdirect
  11. [09:55] <Yrr> since yknow you know its not you
  12. [09:55] <Yrr> it cant be someone other than agastya
  13. [09:55] <Yrr> fwd confirmed that if theres an extra player theyre in the signups thread
  14. [09:55] <SonicProject> you say that but nobody has confirmed the lie
  15. [09:55] <Yrr> the lie was public
  16. [09:55] <Yrr> fwd's confirmation was private
  17. [09:55] <Yrr> we know this much
  18. [09:56] <SonicProject> well I find it odd then that kuma would state what he did about agastya not being in the game actually
  19. [09:56] <SonicProject> but I am fine with lynching him since he keeps beefing up monokuma
  20. [09:56] <Yrr> heres the Q tho
  21. [09:57] <Yrr> how confident are you that its agastya and not you
  22. [09:57] <SonicProject> if it's not him and he was a misdirect then it goes to random anyway
  23. [09:57] <SonicProject> I'm 100% confident it's not me
  24. [09:57] <Yrr> would you agree with the following statements
  25. [09:57] <Yrr> 1. there were two attempts made last night
  26. [09:58] <Yrr> 2. I did nothing last night
  27. [09:58] <SonicProject> I can't agree with what I can't prove. My reports only say there was one attempt
  28. [09:58] <Yrr> 3. Two was only one of the attempts
  29. [09:59] <SonicProject> It's possible you did nothing yes
  30. [09:59] <Yrr> ive appeared on your reports before so you know i dont have a passive ability
  31. [09:59] <Yrr> and you'd know if i used a successor ability
  32. [10:00] <Yrr> ftr monokuma states that there were two attempted killers
  33. [10:00] <Yrr> in the investigation thread
  34. [10:00] <Yrr> obviously that could be the lie but fwd made snarky comments about monokuma being trustworthy on night 3 leading me to believe the lie was much earlier
  35. [10:00] <Yrr> he also stated the lie was not evidence in a case
  36. [10:01] <Yrr> so im trusting the investigation thread that there were in fact 2 attempts made
  37. [10:01] <SonicProject> "There MAY HAVE BEEN two attempted killers"
  38. [10:01] <SonicProject> not confirmed
  39. [10:01] <Yrr> thats
  40. [10:01] <Yrr> really dumb tbh
  41. [10:01] <Yrr> if thats the case
  42. [10:02] <SonicProject> it was pitch black in the play area with the power out, I don't think it's impossible that witness accounts could be botched
  43. [10:02] <Yrr> "however one of them could not make out the other's identity" this part makes me think for sure there were two
  44. [10:03] <SonicProject> but then you'd be trusting an attempted killer
  45. [10:03] <Yrr> i mean
  46. [10:03] <SonicProject> I feel like this has to be the lie and agastya is a misdirect
  47. [10:03] <Yrr> if there were two attempts then either way i can only be trusting an attempted killer
  48. [10:03] <SonicProject> just on the wording of the whole line alone
  49. [10:04] <Yrr> i personally think the second person simply moved the body
  50. [10:04] <Yrr> and thats where the ambiguity is
  51. [10:04] <Yrr> they may have been an attempted killer
  52. [10:04] <Yrr> but whoever it was couldnt be identified
  53. [10:04] <Yrr> the powercut would be pointless otherwise
  54. [10:06] <SonicProject> do you think agastya could have moved the body then
  55. [10:06] <Yrr> yes
  56. [10:07] <SonicProject> so then that would make two a successful killer
  57. [10:07] <Yrr> i think agastya has been the rogue element interfering and skewing my deductions the last two nights
  58. [10:07] <SonicProject> and since agastya is the rogue element maybe that's why no one recognized him
  59. [10:07] <Yrr> we fuckin TOLD two to kill nabber this isnt on him
  60. [10:08] <SonicProject> so we voting agastya then?
  61. [10:08] <Yrr> i think agastya was also the fourth person at my room on night 3
  62. [10:08] <Yrr> i have to convince you for sure its agastya tho
  63. [10:08] <SonicProject> that would make sense
  64. [10:08] <Yrr> because i have to get you to agree to something you wont if youre not 100% certain
  65. [10:08] <Yrr> which also means i need to be 100% certain in this too
  66. [10:09] <Yrr> because if it isnt agastya
  67. [10:09] <Yrr> the only other option is that its you
  68. [10:09] <SonicProject> his injection into this certainly complicated things didn't it
  69. [10:09] <SonicProject> well it's not me so
  70. [10:09] <Yrr> yea FWD said he was gonna throw a wrench into things
  71. [10:09] <Yrr> if you're certain it isnt you
  72. [10:09] <Yrr> and ive succesfully convinced you it cant be anyone else
  73. [10:09] <SonicProject> again my kill pm didn't even get through to monokuma because the pm system is weird on mw
  74. [10:09] <Yrr> we may go 2 votes on agastya 1 on you
  75. [10:10] <Yrr> the 1 will only succeed if it isnt agastya
  76. [10:10] <SonicProject> I can't agree with that
  77. [10:10] <SonicProject> you and two could be colluding behind my back
  78. [10:11] <Yrr> originally i was gonna make you two both vote agastya and id cast the safety
  79. [10:11] <Yrr> back when i wasnt sure which one of you it is
  80. [10:11] <Yrr> but i Math'd the shit out of this and the only way agastya isnt involved is if you lied to me at some point
  81. [10:11] <SonicProject> but given the theory you're going with two is the killer and only did so at your direction
  82. [10:11] <Yrr> even ignoring two's evidence and assuming he lied it still goes to those two outcomes
  83. [10:12] <SonicProject> so why would the vote go to me and not you
  84. [10:12] <Yrr> because there were two attempts on nabber
  85. [10:12] <SonicProject> "may have been"
  86. [10:12] <Yrr> so we know someone else interfered
  87. [10:12] <SonicProject> we don't "know" that
  88. [10:13] <Yrr> ok we know there were two "incidents involving"
  89. [10:13] <Yrr> nabber
  90. [10:13] <Yrr> one was the murder and one was an interference
  91. [10:13] <Yrr> if you insist you didnt interfere then either agastya interfered or you lied
  92. [10:13] <SonicProject> but again why are we voting someone who interfered anyway and not the one who we know killed nabber
  93. [10:14] <SonicProject> This doesn't make any sense
  94. [10:14] <Yrr> because if we vote two we're betraying someone who did as they were told
  95. [10:14] <Yrr> and if we do 2 a 1 you then the only way you get lynched is if you betrayed us
  96. [10:14] <SonicProject> or you're falling for what could be monokuma's lie
  97. [10:15] <SonicProject> the wording "there may have been two attempts" really bothers me
  98. [10:15] <Yrr> http://i.imgur.com/3p2lUyu.png
  99. [10:15] <Yrr> this is my big ol diagram of working
  100. [10:16] <Yrr> what was your kill method going to be
  101. [10:16] <Yrr> if you killed nabber
  102. [10:16] <SonicProject> silenced gunshot
  103. [10:16] <Yrr> ok
  104. [10:17] <Yrr> so we can rule out you accidentally succeeding
  105. [10:18] <Yrr> "One of the attempted killers" again implies there were 2
  106. [10:18] <SonicProject> that same line though says only "there may have been" and we know there's a lie floating around
  107. [10:19] <Yrr> i meant the line 3 down
  108. [10:19] <Yrr> two was watching me again last night
  109. [10:20] <SonicProject> That line doesn't really confirm there were two, it merely confirms that one of the attempts wasn't Two's only action
  110. [10:20] <Yrr> shrug
  111. [10:20] <SonicProject> which we already know
  112. [10:20] <Yrr> o well
  113. [10:20] <Yrr> im gonna vote agastya
  114. [10:20] <Yrr> are you going to too
  115. [10:21] <SonicProject> That was the plan
  116. [10:22] <Yrr> i just did
  117. [10:22] <SonicProject> so did i
  118. [10:23] <Yrr> if its agastya and we survive this night i trust both of you
  119. [10:23] <Yrr> but if u see the diagram u understand why im a little suspicious of u atm
  120. [10:23] <SonicProject> then we can hope to kill monokuma
  121. [10:24] <Yrr> i proposed agastya theory to rule you out
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