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  1. [8/27/2012 12:19:50 AM] IceToEskimos: IceToEskimos has shared contact details with *legion* ---.
  2. [8/27/2012 12:20:05 AM] IceToEskimos: NanoNano
  3. [8/27/2012 12:20:36 AM] IceToEskimos: What's going on?
  4. [8/27/2012 3:04:09 AM] IceToEskimos: let me know if you want to get some onpage done...
  5. [8/27/2012 3:05:06 AM] *legion*: yea URL OMITTED
  6. [8/27/2012 3:05:15 AM] *legion*: there is a crap sticky article
  7. [8/27/2012 3:05:17 AM] *legion*: on frontpage
  8. [8/27/2012 3:05:37 AM] IceToEskimos: "KEYWORD"
  9. [8/27/2012 3:05:39 AM] IceToEskimos: is that the KW?
  10. [8/27/2012 3:06:02 AM] *legion*: we are going for all terms as brand - main focus is KEYWORDbut we wont target that openly with off page
  11. [8/27/2012 3:06:09 AM] *legion*: KEYWORDis #10 now
  12. [8/27/2012 3:06:49 AM] IceToEskimos: ok, but the main KW you are targeting with this page is "KEYWORD"?
  13. [8/27/2012 3:07:07 AM] IceToEskimos: what I'm saying is, I do analysis on a per-page, per KW basis
  14. [8/27/2012 3:07:56 AM] IceToEskimos: how long have you been sitting @ #10?
  15. [8/27/2012 3:10:35 AM] *legion*: KEYWORD = main kw
  16. [8/27/2012 3:10:46 AM] *legion*: secondary is the quotes one
  17. [8/27/2012 3:10:56 AM] *legion*: let me show you graph
  18. [8/27/2012 3:11:11 AM] *legion*: nvm
  19. [8/27/2012 3:11:13 AM] *legion*: about a week
  20. [8/27/2012 3:11:20 AM] *legion*: but its been coming up gradually
  21. [8/27/2012 3:11:24 AM] *legion*: for over 1-2 months
  22. [8/27/2012 3:11:26 AM] *legion*: to that
  23. [8/27/2012 3:11:41 AM] *legion*: actually 3 weeks
  24. [8/27/2012 3:11:45 AM] *legion*: from out of top 100
  25. [8/27/2012 3:12:27 AM] IceToEskimos: ok
  26. [8/27/2012 3:13:02 AM] IceToEskimos: you want to optimize for "KEYWORD" or "KEYWORD" ?
  27. [8/27/2012 3:13:20 AM] IceToEskimos: you are obviously going to pick up a lot of common ground between the two
  28. [8/27/2012 3:13:32 AM] *legion*: dont get it - if I optimize for one dont I automatically get the other?
  29. [8/27/2012 3:13:36 AM] *legion*: yes
  30. [8/27/2012 3:14:35 AM] IceToEskimos: if you optimize for "KEYWORD" you'll be more relative for "KEYWORD" because it's contained within the root KW
  31. [8/27/2012 3:14:43 AM] *legion*: yea..
  32. [8/27/2012 3:15:28 AM] IceToEskimos: optimizing for "KEYWORD" might not bring you the bonuses for "quotes"
  33. [8/27/2012 3:15:45 AM] *legion*: right there are a whole range of keywords
  34. [8/27/2012 3:15:52 AM] *legion*: the homepage is being targeted for
  35. [8/27/2012 3:16:00 AM] *legion*: and ranking for
  36. [8/27/2012 3:16:08 AM] IceToEskimos: personally, I'd look at "quotes" because it's a term with stronger commercial intent
  37. [8/27/2012 3:16:11 AM] *legion*:KEYWORD- KEYWORD
  38. [8/27/2012 3:16:12 AM] *legion*: etc
  39. [8/27/2012 3:16:33 AM] IceToEskimos: KEYWORD gets you a lot of tire kicking and general info searches
  40. [8/27/2012 3:16:47 AM] IceToEskimos: but "quotes" that's all lead
  41. [8/27/2012 3:16:52 AM] *legion*: What exactly will you do with the on page any way I can approve each point if it is presented in a list
  42. [8/27/2012 3:16:59 AM] *legion*: yes I know
  43. [8/27/2012 3:17:08 AM] IceToEskimos: sure,
  44. [8/27/2012 3:17:10 AM] IceToEskimos: what I do is this
  45. [8/27/2012 3:17:15 AM] IceToEskimos: I take a page and a KW
  46. [8/27/2012 3:17:33 AM] IceToEskimos: and I look at the factors common to the pages already ranking for that KW
  47. [8/27/2012 3:17:43 AM] IceToEskimos: then I make some reccomendations
  48. [8/27/2012 3:17:53 AM] IceToEskimos: and we talk about how to structure the content
  49. [8/27/2012 3:18:05 AM] IceToEskimos: to "fit in" with what is already ranking
  50. [8/27/2012 3:18:13 AM] *legion*: ok
  51. [8/27/2012 3:19:42 AM] IceToEskimos: the idea is to indentify areas where you might be under-optimized
  52. [8/27/2012 3:19:50 AM] IceToEskimos: and bring those up to par
  53. [8/27/2012 3:20:09 AM | Edited 3:20:23 AM] IceToEskimos: but also, to identify areas you might be pushing too hard
  54. [8/27/2012 3:21:00 AM] *legion*: you are charging only 97 I cant see why everyone isnt jumping on this
  55. [8/27/2012 3:21:08 AM] *legion*: I thought it was just an article with general on page tips
  56. [8/27/2012 3:21:11 AM] IceToEskimos: if onpage was as simple as putting the most content up, it would be really simple, but I'm starting to think that there are ranking penalties if a page is "too good"
  57. [8/27/2012 3:21:20 AM] IceToEskimos: it's a small market
  58. [8/27/2012 3:21:34 AM] IceToEskimos: most of WF has never made $97 with a website.
  59. [8/27/2012 3:21:35 AM] IceToEskimos: lol
  60. [8/27/2012 3:21:45 AM] *legion*: lol
  61. [8/27/2012 3:21:50 AM] *legion*: lmfao maybe true
  62. [8/27/2012 3:21:51 AM] *legion*: idk
  63. [8/27/2012 3:21:59 AM] IceToEskimos: you are a service provider
  64. [8/27/2012 3:22:03 AM] IceToEskimos: you've seen these sites
  65. [8/27/2012 3:22:05 AM] IceToEskimos: come on.
  66. [8/27/2012 3:22:08 AM] IceToEskimos: I have too.
  67. [8/27/2012 3:22:17 AM] *legion*: lol yea but I keep the tirekickers at bay XD
  68. [8/27/2012 3:22:32 AM] IceToEskimos: I've gotten a few with this
  69. [8/27/2012 3:22:35 AM] *legion*: and for the ghost services I dont even check
  70. [8/27/2012 3:22:38 AM] *legion*: what they do lol
  71. [8/27/2012 3:22:57 AM] IceToEskimos: I'll likely be raising the price for the next roll out, mostly because I want to offer deeper analysis
  72. [8/27/2012 3:23:06 AM] IceToEskimos: but anyway
  73. [8/27/2012 3:23:20 AM] *legion*: how many hours does this whole procedure cost you
  74. [8/27/2012 3:23:22 AM] *legion*: in time
  75. [8/27/2012 3:23:27 AM] *legion*: as in hours
  76. [8/27/2012 3:23:29 AM] IceToEskimos: I've seen some really interesting stuff lately
  77. [8/27/2012 3:23:45 AM] IceToEskimos: things in SERPS that seem really counterintuitive
  78. [8/27/2012 3:23:51 AM] *legion*: same
  79. [8/27/2012 3:23:55 AM] IceToEskimos: I looked at a competitive term in finance the other day
  80. [8/27/2012 3:23:55 AM] *legion*: tell me more :)
  81. [8/27/2012 3:24:16 AM] IceToEskimos: and 90% of the results didn't include the KW in the meta description
  82. [8/27/2012 3:24:28 AM] IceToEskimos: now, maybe that's small, and maybe it isn't.
  83. [8/27/2012 3:24:42 AM] IceToEskimos: but when I see 90% of the front page results doing something it makes me wonder
  84. [8/27/2012 3:25:15 AM] *legion*: yea but they do have titles of the pages which link to them with the keyword somehwre and for most ranking pages the title of the linking page ranks in top 3-5 if the linking page has weight
  85. [8/27/2012 3:25:29 AM] *legion*: google is getting smarter :D
  86. [8/27/2012 3:25:34 AM] IceToEskimos: they definitely are
  87. [8/27/2012 3:25:45 AM] IceToEskimos: taxonomy is big too, I think
  88. [8/27/2012 3:25:53 AM] *legion*: hmmm
  89. [8/27/2012 3:25:55 AM] IceToEskimos: the organization of content on the page
  90. [8/27/2012 3:26:11 AM] IceToEskimos: the difference between having a block of 2000 words with no tags
  91. [8/27/2012 3:26:28 AM] IceToEskimos: and the same 2000 word article broken up into easily understood sections is huge
  92. [8/27/2012 3:26:37 AM] IceToEskimos: and engines read tags to see what a page is about
  93. [8/27/2012 3:26:50 AM] IceToEskimos: some SERPS are better organized than others
  94. [8/27/2012 3:27:05 AM] IceToEskimos: looked at a SERP the other day in automotive
  95. [8/27/2012 3:27:13 AM] IceToEskimos: not an H3 tag to be found
  96. [8/27/2012 3:27:32 AM] IceToEskimos: but in some KEYWORD niches, the top ten tag down to the H4 level
  97. [8/27/2012 3:27:42 AM] IceToEskimos: you can kind of see where I'm going with this?
  98. [8/27/2012 3:28:28 AM] *legion*: how about schemas
  99. [8/27/2012 3:28:35 AM] IceToEskimos: layout?
  100. [8/27/2012 3:28:41 AM | Edited 3:28:43 AM] *legion*: schema tags
  101. [8/27/2012 3:29:05 AM] *legion*: http://schema.org/
  102. [8/27/2012 3:29:14 AM] IceToEskimos: I'm not analyzing for those currently
  103. [8/27/2012 3:29:43 AM] *legion*: would be real hard value if u added shit like this everyone needs on page at expert level
  104. [8/27/2012 3:29:51 AM] *legion*: and its extremely tedious work
  105. [8/27/2012 3:30:09 AM] IceToEskimos: I'm listening to what people want
  106. [8/27/2012 3:30:18 AM] IceToEskimos: trying to anyway
  107. [8/27/2012 3:30:26 AM] *legion*: ok i need to pay lol
  108. [8/27/2012 3:30:30 AM] *legion*: pp id plz
  109. [8/27/2012 3:30:30 AM] *legion*: :P
  110. [8/27/2012 3:30:31 AM] IceToEskimos: I've gotten a few people who seem to think the ideas are solid
  111. [8/27/2012 3:30:44 AM] *legion*: tell me how many hours approx this takes you
  112. [8/27/2012 3:30:48 AM] IceToEskimos: and I've used them myself with success, so I believe in it.
  113. [8/27/2012 3:30:54 AM] *legion*: in terms of your time investment
  114. [8/27/2012 3:31:10 AM] IceToEskimos: I don't know exactly, because I work on a few reports at a time
  115. [8/27/2012 3:31:19 AM] IceToEskimos: also, tbh, I enjoy the research
  116. [8/27/2012 3:31:25 AM] IceToEskimos: so I'm not counting my time
  117. [8/27/2012 3:31:40 AM] IceToEskimos: if I start getting a lot of orders I'll have to figure out what I'm making on this
  118. [8/27/2012 3:31:42 AM] IceToEskimos: lol
  119. [8/27/2012 3:31:53 AM] IceToEskimos: I source the content to a friend of mine who went to Penn
  120. [8/27/2012 3:32:48 AM] *legion*: Penn State prison?
  121. [8/27/2012 3:32:49 AM] *legion*: :P
  122. [8/27/2012 3:32:52 AM] IceToEskimos: I spend time on the research, and then theres the consult where we talk about what you are comforatable trying and what you want to leave alone.
  123. [8/27/2012 3:32:54 AM] IceToEskimos: lol
  124. [8/27/2012 3:32:56 AM] IceToEskimos: yeah
  125. [8/27/2012 3:32:56 AM] *legion*: :D
  126. [8/27/2012 3:33:01 AM] *legion*: lmfao
  127. [8/27/2012 3:33:02 AM] IceToEskimos: you are a funny guy
  128. [8/27/2012 3:33:05 AM] *legion*: ^^
  129. [8/27/2012 3:33:07 AM] IceToEskimos: I'm David btw.
  130. [8/27/2012 3:33:13 AM] *legion*: I am Jest ^^
  131. [8/27/2012 3:33:19 AM] IceToEskimos: alright Jest
  132. [8/27/2012 3:33:27 AM] *legion*: Reason I was asking
  133. [8/27/2012 3:33:37 AM] *legion*: because if it takes you lets say 2 hours
  134. [8/27/2012 3:33:45 AM] *legion*: then ill just hire you for 10 hours
  135. [8/27/2012 3:33:49 AM] *legion*: of overall work
  136. [8/27/2012 3:33:55 AM] *legion*: on on page for the site
  137. [8/27/2012 3:33:57 AM] *legion*: or whtvr
  138. [8/27/2012 3:34:05 AM] IceToEskimos: we can work something like that out
  139. [8/27/2012 3:34:30 AM] IceToEskimos: I tell myself that the reports take me an hour, but I know it's more than that
  140. [8/27/2012 3:34:50 AM] IceToEskimos: I can take one order now and run a clock
  141. [8/27/2012 3:34:51 AM] IceToEskimos: or
  142. [8/27/2012 3:35:04 AM] IceToEskimos: we can go off of that 1hr mark if you want more work
  143. [8/27/2012 3:35:06 AM] *legion*: just tell me an hourly*
  144. [8/27/2012 3:35:09 AM] *legion*: yea
  145. [8/27/2012 3:35:18 AM] IceToEskimos: 50
  146. [8/27/2012 3:35:35 AM] *legion*: cool
  147. [8/27/2012 3:35:40 AM] *legion*: micromasters wont let me export
  148. [8/27/2012 3:35:42 AM] *legion*: fuck
  149. [8/27/2012 3:35:48 AM] *legion*: it keeps loading
  150. [8/27/2012 3:35:50 AM] IceToEskimos: can you screenshot it?
  151. [8/27/2012 3:35:57 AM] *legion*: I swear that bofu has to upgrade his ervers
  152. [8/27/2012 3:36:07 AM] *legion*: there are 1200 keywords or more lol
  153. [8/27/2012 3:36:14 AM] IceToEskimos: wow
  154. [8/27/2012 3:36:15 AM] IceToEskimos: ok
  155. [8/27/2012 3:36:26 AM] *legion*: but I want to see which ones ranking for homepage
  156. [8/27/2012 3:36:30 AM] *legion*: and its more then one page
  157. [8/27/2012 3:36:31 AM] *legion*: sec
  158. [8/27/2012 3:36:33 AM] *legion*: lemme try
  159. [8/27/2012 3:36:36 AM] *legion*: again
  160. [8/27/2012 3:38:06 AM] *** *legion* sent eskimo.jpg ***
  161. [8/27/2012 3:38:16 AM] *legion*: ok these rank for homepage according to msm
  162. [8/27/2012 3:38:28 AM] *legion*: im sure there are more but havent added those yet
  163. [8/27/2012 3:39:50 AM] IceToEskimos: ok
  164. [8/27/2012 3:40:13 AM] IceToEskimos: so we are talking about trying to optimize this homepage for multiple terms
  165. [8/27/2012 3:40:25 AM] IceToEskimos: hourly is better for this
  166. [8/27/2012 3:40:25 AM] IceToEskimos: lol
  167. [8/27/2012 3:40:27 AM] *legion*: yea the money keywords
  168. [8/27/2012 3:40:29 AM] *legion*: yea
  169. [8/27/2012 3:40:30 AM] *legion*: lolol
  170. [8/27/2012 3:40:35 AM] IceToEskimos: KEYWORD
  171. [8/27/2012 3:40:42 AM] *legion*: yea
  172. [8/27/2012 3:40:44 AM] IceToEskimos: looks like a winner, you are close on that
  173. [8/27/2012 3:40:46 AM] IceToEskimos: I mean
  174. [8/27/2012 3:40:56 AM] *legion*: yea lots of others that are almost winner
  175. [8/27/2012 3:40:58 AM] IceToEskimos: I'm a big believer in grabbing what's close
  176. [8/27/2012 3:41:08 AM] *legion*: individual and affordiable are also page 2
  177. [8/27/2012 3:41:17 AM] *legion*: quotes one is page 1
  178. [8/27/2012 3:41:24 AM] IceToEskimos: is there any way you can get me this data in a spreadsheet ?
  179. [8/27/2012 3:41:32 AM] *legion*: I was trying
  180. [8/27/2012 3:41:35 AM] *legion*: damn msm
  181. [8/27/2012 3:41:39 AM] IceToEskimos: I mean tomorrow maybe
  182. [8/27/2012 3:41:39 AM] IceToEskimos: ok
  183. [8/27/2012 3:41:41 AM] IceToEskimos: that's all
  184. [8/27/2012 3:41:46 AM] *legion*: cool
  185. [8/27/2012 3:41:48 AM] IceToEskimos: I want to break these into groups
  186. [8/27/2012 3:42:07 AM] IceToEskimos: and see what I find from google suggest
  187. [8/27/2012 3:42:16 AM] *legion*: right :)
  188. [8/27/2012 3:42:17 AM] IceToEskimos: because what I'm seeing
  189. [8/27/2012 3:42:22 AM] IceToEskimos: is an outline form
  190. [8/27/2012 3:42:24 AM] IceToEskimos: for this page
  191. [8/27/2012 3:42:38 AM] IceToEskimos: so you might have KEYWORDas the root KW
  192. [8/27/2012 3:42:55 AM] *legion*: yea it ranks #40
  193. [8/27/2012 3:42:57 AM] IceToEskimos: then "KEYWORD" as a sub root
  194. [8/27/2012 3:43:06 AM] IceToEskimos: and then sub-subs underneath that
  195. [8/27/2012 3:43:43 AM] IceToEskimos: so if we organize the H2 tags for the money KWs and drill down to H3 on lesser ones we can treat each section as it's own page
  196. [8/27/2012 3:43:50 AM] IceToEskimos: if that makes sense
  197. [8/27/2012 3:43:59 AM] IceToEskimos: so we'd optimize this homepage in three sections
  198. [8/27/2012 3:44:03 AM] IceToEskimos: or 4 maybe
  199. [8/27/2012 3:44:31 AM] IceToEskimos: and use the data for the main KW that section is targeting to guide us
  200. [8/27/2012 3:44:53 AM] IceToEskimos: you are already up around 2k words
  201. [8/27/2012 3:45:01 AM] IceToEskimos: so we have plenty of room to run
  202. [8/27/2012 3:45:27 AM] *legion*: Cool please tell me price for homepage then ill pay and ou can add this steps in a document outlined to me and my partner and we will approve
  203. [8/27/2012 3:45:32 AM] *legion*: so # of hours
  204. [8/27/2012 3:45:33 AM] *legion*: approx
  205. [8/27/2012 3:45:37 AM] *legion*: if it goes over that
  206. [8/27/2012 3:45:40 AM] *legion*: then we just add
  207. [8/27/2012 3:45:45 AM | Edited 3:45:49 AM] *legion*: with another # hour block
  208. [8/27/2012 3:45:57 AM] IceToEskimos: that's fine
  209. [8/27/2012 3:46:28 AM] IceToEskimos: I don't think it's more than 4 or 5 hours for this page
  210. [8/27/2012 3:46:54 AM] IceToEskimos: but I'll send you an outline of the process and what it entails in the morning, if you are alright with that
  211. [8/27/2012 3:47:00 AM] IceToEskimos: it's 4am here now.
  212. [8/27/2012 3:47:57 AM] *legion*: paypal id please :)
  213. [8/27/2012 3:48:40 AM] *legion*: logged in pp
  214. [8/27/2012 3:50:22 AM] *legion*: .
  215. [8/27/2012 3:50:25 AM] *legion*: :|
  216. [8/27/2012 3:52:04 AM] IceToEskimos: EMAIL
  217. [8/27/2012 3:52:41 AM] *legion*: done
  218. [8/27/2012 3:54:17 AM] IceToEskimos: the first thing we need to decide is if you think you can rank for "KEYWORD" or not, and my thinking is that although we can optimize for that term, unless you are going to commit to the offpage linking for that term, you might be better focusing this page on one of the other 10k+ terms
  219. [8/27/2012 3:54:31 AM] *legion*: I will rank for it
  220. [8/27/2012 3:54:36 AM] *legion*: but I cant target it now
  221. [8/27/2012 3:54:41 AM] IceToEskimos: ok
  222. [8/27/2012 3:54:44 AM] *legion*: I have to target all longtails first
  223. [8/27/2012 3:54:49 AM] *legion*: or I will get into issues
  224. [8/27/2012 3:54:56 AM] IceToEskimos: I agree with that
  225. [8/27/2012 3:55:16 AM] *legion*: it is just ranking because of the longtail targeting anyway
  226. [8/27/2012 3:55:38 AM] IceToEskimos: it's floating
  227. [8/27/2012 3:55:42 AM] IceToEskimos: on your longtails
  228. [8/27/2012 3:55:46 AM] *legion*: yes
  229. [8/27/2012 3:56:34 AM] IceToEskimos: so
  230. [8/27/2012 3:56:50 AM] IceToEskimos: my first impression is to target 4 KWs with this page
  231. [8/27/2012 3:57:12 AM] *legion*: What I did so far with off page
  232. [8/27/2012 3:57:21 AM] *legion*: is target all longtails of those 4 as well
  233. [8/27/2012 3:57:26 AM] IceToEskimos: "KEYWORDl", "KEYWORD", "KEYWORD"
  234. [8/27/2012 3:57:41 AM] *legion*: yes
  235. [8/27/2012 3:57:58 AM] *legion*: cheap has variants which are seen same as in adding too
  236. [8/27/2012 3:58:03 AM] *legion*: like low cost - affordable etc
  237. [8/27/2012 3:58:13 AM] *legion*: as they are bolded in serps
  238. [8/27/2012 3:58:24 AM] *legion*: when not searched
  239. [8/27/2012 3:58:35 AM] IceToEskimos: yeah, that nice little tip G gives us
  240. [8/27/2012 3:59:00 AM] IceToEskimos: ok
  241. [8/27/2012 3:59:33 AM] IceToEskimos: so, I'm thinking that the thing for me to do is to run a report on those 4 keywords to start, and a report on your site currently
  242. [8/27/2012 4:00:23 AM] IceToEskimos: that's where your volume is, and I think you'll pick up a lot of longtails in the process anyway
  243. [8/27/2012 4:00:53 AM] IceToEskimos: I can send over an itemized list of what I'll be doing in the morning
  244. [8/27/2012 4:01:40 AM] IceToEskimos: and if you have any factors you'd like me to examine beyond what I come up with you can let me know before I start drilling.
  245. [8/27/2012 4:02:03 AM] IceToEskimos: I have a feeling the OBL profiles are going to be interesting as hell
  246. [8/27/2012 4:02:32 AM] IceToEskimos: did a report two days ago where every site in the top ten was linking out to the same resource
  247. [8/27/2012 4:02:39 AM] IceToEskimos: and my client wasn't
  248. [8/27/2012 4:02:56 AM] IceToEskimos: again- might be small, might be big, but I think the small things add up
  249. [8/27/2012 4:05:20 AM] IceToEskimos: payment recieved
  250. [8/27/2012 4:05:21 AM] IceToEskimos: ty
  251. [8/27/2012 4:07:00 AM] IceToEskimos: Jest, are you there?
  252. [8/27/2012 4:17:27 AM] IceToEskimos: ok, I've got to get some rest, I'll be online in about 10 hours, and I'll hit you up on Skype then
  253. [8/27/2012 4:17:35 AM] IceToEskimos: I'm EST
  254. [8/27/2012 4:17:49 AM] IceToEskimos: goodnight for now, I'm looking forward to helping to rank for these KWs
  255. [8/27/2012 4:23:27 AM] *legion*: cool
  256. [8/27/2012 4:23:28 AM] *legion*: :)
  257. [9/1/2012 10:00:46 AM] IceToEskimos: anxious to discuss your project. I'll be online all day.
  258. [9/1/2012 11:12:43 AM] IceToEskimos: Good morning Jest
  259. [9/1/2012 11:12:58 AM] IceToEskimos: we can discuss your order here
  260. [9/1/2012 11:47:46 AM] IceToEskimos: I'm late for a meeting, Jest. Will you be online in two hours?
  261. [9/1/2012 12:00:27 PM] *legion* ---: I want a refund, can you do this now. I do not want to make this any more of a hassle for any of us.
  262. [9/1/2012 12:01:11 PM] IceToEskimos: hold on
  263. [9/1/2012 12:01:21 PM] IceToEskimos: I'm pushing something back so I can talk to you for a minute
  264. [9/1/2012 12:01:34 PM] *legion* ---: Dont just refund within 24 hours.
  265. [9/1/2012 12:01:39 PM] *legion* ---: I already explained my part.
  266. [9/1/2012 12:05:38 PM] IceToEskimos: ok
  267. [9/1/2012 12:05:40 PM] IceToEskimos: I'm back
  268. [9/1/2012 12:05:47 PM] IceToEskimos: sorry about that
  269. [9/1/2012 12:05:52 PM] IceToEskimos: are you there?
  270. [9/1/2012 12:07:52 PM] IceToEskimos: no?
  271. [9/1/2012 12:08:24 PM] IceToEskimos: That's unfortunate.
  272. [9/1/2012 12:10:14 PM] IceToEskimos: I'm not opposed to giving you a refund, Jest, I suppose I should say that from the start. However your attitude is abrasive, and I think if we want to reach a favorable resolution on this matter, we both need to make an effort to communicate with a maximum of civility.
  273. [9/1/2012 12:33:32 PM] *legion* ---: Great so the refund wont be any problem then.
  274. [9/1/2012 12:46:25 PM] IceToEskimos: Were there specific data points you were interested in seeing that were not represented in the report I sent, and if so what were they?
  275. [9/1/2012 12:46:57 PM] *legion* ---: I quoted them see the other chat.
  276. [9/1/2012 12:47:13 PM] IceToEskimos: I think you mentioned meta KWs, is that correct?
  277. [9/1/2012 12:47:16 PM] *legion* ---: Do not want to go in circles
  278. [9/1/2012 12:47:26 PM] *legion* ---: You offered to give the refund I am waiting on it.
  279. [9/1/2012 12:47:38 PM] IceToEskimos: I said I wasn't opposed to it, and I'm not.
  280. [9/1/2012 12:48:33 PM] IceToEskimos: [11:10:49 AM] *legion* ---: dude your advising me to do meta keywords thats retarded
  281. [9/1/2012 12:50:34 PM] IceToEskimos: COMPETITORS SITE
  282. [9/1/2012 12:50:55 PM] IceToEskimos: they hold the top 3 positions for "KEYWORD"
  283. [9/1/2012 12:51:22 PM] IceToEskimos: #3 for "KEYWORD"
  284. [9/1/2012 12:51:40 PM] IceToEskimos: #2 for "KEYWORD"
  285. [9/1/2012 12:52:04 PM] IceToEskimos: #2 for "KEYWORD"
  286. [9/1/2012 12:52:14 PM] IceToEskimos: do you think that they are "retarded" ?
  287. [9/1/2012 12:53:34 PM] IceToEskimos: they've got a PR 4 page, like yours, except you have 3 times as many links
  288. [9/1/2012 12:54:18 PM] IceToEskimos: but let me ask you again, do you think the people responsible for COMPETITOR WEBSITE are "retarded" ?
  289. [9/1/2012 12:55:41 PM] IceToEskimos: Do you think that the things they are doing are the wrong things to do as far as SEO?
  290. [9/1/2012 12:56:29 PM] IceToEskimos: Do you think that they are ranking for 4 extremely competitive and profitable keywords by accident?
  291. [9/1/2012 12:57:18 PM] IceToEskimos: I'm really curious to know how you feel about that page.
  292. [9/1/2012 12:59:52 PM] IceToEskimos: If meta keywords have no value, then why would a site that is ranking for competitive KWs use them?
  293. [9/1/2012 1:00:23 PM] IceToEskimos: do you think that maybe they forgot to take them out?
  294. [9/1/2012 1:00:30 PM] IceToEskimos: maybe they don't pay attention to SEO?
  295. [9/1/2012 1:01:01 PM] IceToEskimos: I'm wondering how a site like COMPETITOR does so well when they obviously don't know anything about SEO.
  296. [9/1/2012 1:02:57 PM] IceToEskimos: You haven't responded to any of my questions so I don't know if you are still here or not.
  297. [9/1/2012 1:03:25 PM] IceToEskimos: [Saturday, September 01, 2012 12:46 PM] IceToEskimos:
  298.  
  299. <<< Were there specific data points you were interested in seeing that were not represented in the report I sent, and if so what were they?
  300. [9/1/2012 1:04:51 PM] *legion* ---: busy writing a contract for a client ;) talk to you after you refunded
  301. [9/1/2012 1:05:10 PM] IceToEskimos: no problem
  302. [9/1/2012 1:05:10 PM] *legion* ---: ill ask them to put some meta keywords :P
  303. [9/1/2012 1:05:16 PM] *legion* ---: (rofl)
  304. [9/1/2012 1:11:34 PM] IceToEskimos: I just found this video where Matt Cutts says that Google doesn't use the meta KW at all when determining rankings.
  305. [9/1/2012 1:11:36 PM] IceToEskimos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jK7IPbnmvVU&feature=player_embedded
  306. [9/1/2012 1:12:28 PM] IceToEskimos: He never says anything misleading, and is always 100% truthful.
  307. [9/2/2012 7:03:32 AM] *legion* ---: Have you processed the refund yet?
  308. [3:20:47 PM] *legion* ---: [Sunday, September 02, 2012 7:03 AM] *legion* ---:
  309.  
  310. <<< Have you processed the refund yet?
  311. [4:05:18 PM] *legion* ---: Posted on your thread
  312. [4:05:27 PM] *legion* ---: Next step will be a detailed breakdown
  313. [4:05:48 PM] *legion* ---: Messaged zingo to inform of possible cartel between you and the others in your click
  314. [4:37:02 PM] IceToEskimos: Don't worry about the breakdown, I'll be posting every bit of communication that passed between us in that thread.
  315. [4:37:30 PM] IceToEskimos: That way there won't be anything left open to interpertation.
  316. [4:37:54 PM] IceToEskimos: I was content to keep this private, but you seemed to be intent on making it public, so, now it's public.
  317. [4:38:01 PM] IceToEskimos: Let's let it all be public, ok?
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