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  5. Topic set by JoeRules on Wed Jul 30 2014 23:46:34 GMT-0400 (EDT)
  6. 19:14 JoeRules
  7. 19:14 JoeRules issues noted in the doc
  8. 19:20 AbrasiveObelisk JR, I think you missed a segment
  9. 19:22 JoeRules the one that's missing has a question that's gotta be addressed before I can book it
  10. 19:23 AbrasiveObelisk no, Dudleyz aren't talking
  11. 19:24 AbrasiveObelisk and in Jericho/Hakushi, why would there be Lynn interference?
  12. 19:24 JoeRules there's a note for it
  13. 19:24 SeneriGhost we have it--yeah
  14. 19:24 AbrasiveObelisk why?
  15. 19:25 SeneriGhost I'm guessing from before we came up with Jericho's turn
  16. 19:26 SeneriGhost I'm guessing that the Jericho plays to the crowd part was supposed to be Lynn comes down and distracts him, Jericho attacks Lynn
  17. 19:27 JoeRules BTW, in case it wasn't clear, I totally want writers to participate in the End-Of-Year Awards, so please do the nominations when you get time
  18. 19:27 AbrasiveObelisk oh okay
  19. 19:27 AbrasiveObelisk I thought we couldn't
  20. 19:27 JoeRules yeah, I should have said something
  21. 19:28 SeneriGhost can I get a link so I don't have to comb through the thread like the lazy butt I am
  22. 19:28 JoeRules it's the very first line in the OP
  23. 19:28 SeneriGhost oh ok saves time then
  24. 19:29 AbrasiveObelisk JR, say that it's in the OP in the thread too
  25. 19:29 JoeRules will do
  26. 19:29 AbrasiveObelisk By the way, how many have you gotten already?
  27. 19:32 SeneriGhost This only counts 1996 Matches right?
  28. 19:35 JoeRules the awards?
  29. 19:35 JoeRules no, everthing since the game begun
  30. 19:35 JoeRules I know it hasn't quite been a full year, but close enough, and with a good stopping point
  31. 19:36 AbrasiveObelisk how many submissions have you counted already?
  32. 19:37 JoeRules 2
  33. 19:37 AbrasiveObelisk hooo
  34. 19:38 AbrasiveObelisk yeah, make sure you emphasize that everyone can vote
  35. 19:38 SeneriGhost I'm trying to find matches to nominate from WCW because I do think they had some good matches, but I don't like their formatting, which is holding me back
  36. 19:39 AbrasiveObelisk and use the cross-promotion with GOON-CW
  37. 19:39 AbrasiveObelisk I like WCW formatting
  38. 19:39 AbrasiveObelisk A bit too long sometimes
  39. 19:40 AbrasiveObelisk Randy Savage/Hulk Hogan, Fans Bring The Weapons was really good to rad
  40. 19:40 AbrasiveObelisk read
  41. 19:41 SeneriGhost oh yeah legitimately forgot about that one.
  42. 19:41 AbrasiveObelisk WarGames
  43. 19:42 AbrasiveObelisk Both Hennig/Hogan
  44. 19:42 JoeRules and also, no modesty here - please nominate your own writing if you think it's worthy.
  45. 19:42 AbrasiveObelisk It's a lot harder to find really good WWF matches
  46. 19:43 JoeRules I'd also say throw noms to TV stuff that's worthy, since I'm sure almost no one will go back and revisit all the TV eps to see what was outstanding
  47. 19:43 SeneriGhost My personal favorite of my own writing actually hasn't come out yet. It's literally currently being booked.
  48. 19:44 AbrasiveObelisk the Owen Snaps promo?
  49. 19:44 SeneriGhost yeah
  50. 19:44 AbrasiveObelisk I love it
  51. 19:44 SeneriGhost I didn't write much, but I liked it
  52. 19:45 SeneriGhost I'm gonna nominate it.
  53. 19:45 AbrasiveObelisk My favorite of mine is probably a Pillman/ICP promo right before SummerSlam?
  54. 19:45 SeneriGhost Oh yeah I forgot about IYH12
  55. 19:45 AbrasiveObelisk I know it was right before Pillman/Jericho
  56. 19:45 JoeRules let me get these notes taken care so I can get RAW run
  57. 19:45 JoeRules Traylor needs push, gimmick, and alignment if you're using him on the dark match
  58. 19:46 AbrasiveObelisk Traylor is Heel, Upper Midcard,
  59. 19:46 AbrasiveObelisk What gimmicks is he good at?
  60. 19:46 SeneriGhost I'd put him as Enforcer for now until we have a plan for him
  61. 19:46 SeneriGhost as a gimmick
  62. 19:46 JoeRules best at "brute" types
  63. 19:47 AbrasiveObelisk Enforcer works
  64. 19:47 AbrasiveObelisk JR, whats the difference between Best Match and Best Written Match?
  65. 19:47 SeneriGhost Worst of WWF was easy
  66. 19:47 AbrasiveObelisk Which was?
  67. 19:47 AbrasiveObelisk Edge
  68. 19:47 SeneriGhost Edge
  69. 19:48 AbrasiveObelisk I realized right as I said that
  70. 19:48 SeneriGhost this is literally what I wrote for that: Edge, Edge, EDGE
  71. 19:48 AbrasiveObelisk I really want to nominate WW3 as both Best Match and Worst Match
  72. 19:48 AbrasiveObelisk Because it put over Steiner and Benoit great
  73. 19:49 JoeRules Bodyguard, Demon Hunter, Ex-Con, Gatekeeper, Hired Gun, Impact Player, Network Rep, Outsider, Trailer Trash are all gimmicks that suit him rather well
  74. 19:49 AbrasiveObelisk But Flair winning was a terrible ending and imo made all of Anderson/Sting pointless
  75. 19:49 SeneriGhost I felt that, due to the match's structure, it was a poor quality writ-up
  76. 19:49 SeneriGhost Network Rep sounds like a fun one
  77. 19:49 AbrasiveObelisk yeah
  78. 19:49 SeneriGhost we can have him as the moral guardian type, opposing the H.O.E.S. on behalf of the sponsors
  79. 19:50 AbrasiveObelisk the Network sends him to censor HOES
  80. 19:50 JoeRules AO, it's Best Written Match/Most Important Angle/Best Single Segment - no "best match"
  81. 19:50 AbrasiveObelisk oh
  82. 19:50 SeneriGhost I'm trying to think what I didn't like from WCW this year
  83. 19:51 AbrasiveObelisk Kid Rock
  84. 19:51 SeneriGhost yeah, probably that
  85. 19:51 SeneriGhost Like seriously, if Edge doesn't win Worst of WWF I will be confused
  86. 19:52 AbrasiveObelisk What did we do that can possibly be worse
  87. 19:52 SeneriGhost Maivia, I guess
  88. 19:52 SeneriGhost but we eventually got him back
  89. 19:52 AbrasiveObelisk Yeah
  90. 19:52 AbrasiveObelisk Filling our roster with no-namers
  91. 19:52 SeneriGhost Flawless Diamonds is probably the best angle of the year, to me.
  92. 19:53 AbrasiveObelisk I loved Sting/Anderson
  93. 19:53 SeneriGhost like between the two, because it's pretty well executed
  94. 19:53 AbrasiveObelisk between the two?
  95. 19:53 SeneriGhost between the two companies
  96. 19:53 AbrasiveObelisk oh
  97. 19:53 SeneriGhost That said, I am excited about some of our angles for the next few months
  98. 19:54 AbrasiveObelisk What specifically?
  99. 19:54 SeneriGhost Well the first angle I specifically outlined starts after WM; HBK/Mick
  100. 19:54 AbrasiveObelisk I like that
  101. 19:55 SeneriGhost Goldust with the Title has so many fun possibilities
  102. 19:55 AbrasiveObelisk SHIELD/ECW
  103. 19:55 SeneriGhost yeah
  104. 19:55 JoeRules OK, so did you guys want to do Network Rep for Traylor?
  105. 19:55 AbrasiveObelisk yeah
  106. 19:55 SeneriGhost yeah
  107. 19:55 JoeRules I really think you should still call him Big Bossman, or at least refer to that, since he's working for The Man now
  108. 19:56 AbrasiveObelisk The Big Bossman
  109. 19:56 AbrasiveObelisk yeah
  110. 19:56 AbrasiveObelisk let's change his name
  111. 19:58 JoeRules OK - Violent J wants unscripted for the Tent
  112. 19:58 JoeRules oh, I see you already made it unscripted, nm
  113. 20:01 JoeRules http://imgur.com/a/JomRZ
  114. 20:01 JoeRules just gimme the greenlight
  115. 20:01 AbrasiveObelisk go
  116. 20:02 SeneriGhost I like that Michaels performance leaving things to be desired in the final segment of UK fits our storyline.
  117. 20:03 AbrasiveObelisk how?
  118. 20:03 SeneriGhost Michaels is phoning it in in story, and phoned it in in the PPV
  119. 20:03 SeneriGhost It's not a good thing, but it fits the story
  120. 20:03 AbrasiveObelisk that makes sense
  121. 20:06 AbrasiveObelisk A segment!
  122. 20:08 SeneriGhost Not a B- Raw!
  123. 20:09 JoeRules RAW up to 3.63
  124. 20:09 AbrasiveObelisk go us
  125. 20:09 AbrasiveObelisk wow
  126. 20:11 AbrasiveObelisk what is JR's gimmick?
  127. 20:11 SeneriGhost I find that Bossman and Goldust having excellent chemistry is hilarious
  128. 20:11 SeneriGhost considering the character we're building for Bossman
  129. 20:12 AbrasiveObelisk Backlund and Funk being two crazy old mean is good
  130. 20:15 AbrasiveObelisk what is JR's gimmick?
  131. 20:15 SeneriGhost AbrasiveObelisk: I put a question int he bookign tab for that
  132. 20:15 AbrasiveObelisk and do we keep DiBiase?
  133. 20:16 AbrasiveObelisk Senerio I saw after I posted
  134. 20:16 SeneriGhost ok
  135. 20:16 JoeRules iren:
  136. 20:16 JoeRules drug test results
  137. 20:16 AbrasiveObelisk noooo
  138. 20:16 JoeRules Sunny, hard drug
  139. 20:16 JoeRules s
  140. 20:17 JoeRules Noble, steroids, 2nd offense (riot act last time)
  141. 20:17 AbrasiveObelisk and?
  142. 20:17 JoeRules just those 2
  143. 20:17 SeneriGhost Riot act for Sunny, Fine for Noble, AbrasiveObelisk?
  144. 20:17 AbrasiveObelisk yep
  145. 20:18 AbrasiveObelisk we need neither
  146. 20:19 JoeRules Noble: "It'll not happen again."
  147. 20:19 JoeRules Same response from Sunny.
  148. 20:19 AbrasiveObelisk good
  149. 20:20 SeneriGhost did we put in to send the mystery box his contract
  150. 20:20 SeneriGhost I forget
  151. 20:21 SeneriGhost because we were unanimous there. That doesn't happen often
  152. 20:21 SeneriGhost or maybe it does. I'm sick right now so I'm not thinking right
  153. 20:23 AbrasiveObelisk depends
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  155. Topic set by JoeRules on Thu Jul 31 2014 20:23:28 GMT-0400 (EDT)
  156. 20:23 JoeRules mystery box contract was sent, we'll see when whoever shows up.
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  159. 20:27 JoeRules iren:
  160. 20:27 AbrasiveObelisk yes
  161. 20:27 JoeRules Scott Hall's deal is up for renegotiation.
  162. 20:28 JoeRules He says you'll pay through the teeth to get him, but he's willing to come back.
  163. 20:28 AbrasiveObelisk Honestly, no thanks
  164. 20:29 AbrasiveObelisk I'll put it up on a poll, but Hall's not worth it
  165. 20:29 AbrasiveObelisk what does he do well
  166. 20:30 JoeRules Suicida, Porteau, and Horshu's deals are all confirmed
  167. 20:30 JoeRules as is Kane's
  168. 20:31 JoeRules A popular in the US, very good brawler, excellent performance and physical skills, excellent entertainment skills, elite heel/cool/cocky gimmick work
  169. 20:31 JoeRules 38 y/o
  170. 20:54 JoeRules DiBiase re-signed with you guys.
  171. 20:54 Senerio woop!
  172. 20:54 AbrasiveObelisk YES
  173. 20:55 AbrasiveObelisk Did WCW come close to our offer or try at all?
  174. 20:56 JoeRules They didn't make an offer.
  175. 20:56 Senerio welp
  176. 20:56 AbrasiveObelisk okay\
  177. 20:56 Kliff Wow, you'd think they'd try to snipe him up.
  178. 20:56 AbrasiveObelisk giving him Creative Control just makes life easier
  179. 20:57 AbrasiveObelisk why would WCW need DiBiase?
  180. 20:57 Kliff To spite us.
  181. 20:57 AbrasiveObelisk well, yeah
  182. 20:57 Senerio Also because he's a solid manager
  183. 20:57 Senerio in general
  184. 20:57 AbrasiveObelisk but they have Heenan
  185. 20:58 AbrasiveObelisk who currently has no one
  186. 20:58 AbrasiveObelisk important
  187. 20:58 Kliff Man, now I'm wondering when Heyman enters the sim.
  188. 20:58 AbrasiveObelisk never, since ECW is alive?
  189. 20:58 Senerio He owns ECW
  190. 20:58 Kliff Ah, yeah.
  191. 20:59 AbrasiveObelisk surprised he hasn't shown up in ECW yet
  192. 21:00 AbrasiveObelisk Kliff, opinions on signing Scott Hall?
  193. 21:00 Senerio like he's a solid choice to sign, but we're trying to clean up our locker room
  194. 21:01 Senerio he is in the top 25 Wrestlers
  195. 21:01 Senerio (#16)
  196. 21:01 AbrasiveObelisk and the fact that he's in a monster contract with WCW
  197. 21:01 AbrasiveObelisk with Wage Matching and all
  198. 21:01 Senerio yeah
  199. 21:02 AbrasiveObelisk but he's a main-event heel
  200. 21:02 Kliff Yeah. He looks real nice, I'm actually a little concerned with locker room and bottom line at the moment. Have we had any indications on what chemistry he's got with some of our top guys, or will we have to find that out once we sign him?
  201. 21:02 Senerio the latter
  202. 21:02 AbrasiveObelisk when we sign
  203. 21:03 AbrasiveObelisk That's why we have random dark matches
  204. 21:03 Kliff True, yeah.
  205. 21:03 AbrasiveObelisk since testing is the only way to find out
  206. 21:03 Senerio Like Bossman and Goldust have excellent Tag Chemistry
  207. 21:03 AbrasiveObelisk for some reason
  208. 21:03 Senerio which is funny becasue Goldust is Goldust and we're making Bossman a Moral Panic character
  209. 21:04 AbrasiveObelisk the networks like movies, Goldust is movies
  210. 21:04 Kliff Yeah, so normally I'd snap him up in a heartbeat but he'll be costing us a pretty penny to re-sign with us, right?
  211. 21:04 AbrasiveObelisk Pretty much
  212. 21:05 AbrasiveObelisk My main concern is what do we do with him?
  213. 21:05 AbrasiveObelisk Goldust is our top heel
  214. 21:05 AbrasiveObelisk With TMPT around there
  215. 21:05 AbrasiveObelisk Vader as well
  216. 21:05 Senerio Vader t-yeah
  217. 21:05 AbrasiveObelisk Bulldog has no storyline, which is a shame
  218. 21:06 Senerio yeah
  219. 21:06 AbrasiveObelisk And Michaels and Jericho are turning
  220. 21:06 Kliff I'm still kicking it around in my head to turn Goldust at some point, but yeah, we have some real high-profile heels and I'm not sure we need yet another one at the moment when we don't know what chemistry he's got with our stable.
  221. 21:06 AbrasiveObelisk Kliff, Goldust is probably turning in the fall
  222. 21:07 AbrasiveObelisk But by that time Austin will be taking his spot
  223. 21:07 Senerio and then by the next year, HHH will have taken over for Austin
  224. 21:08 Kliff With Austin having gone Face himself, I assume.
  225. 21:08 Senerio yeah
  226. 21:08 AbrasiveObelisk yep
  227. 21:08 Kliff Yeah, I don't think we've got the room for Hall at the moment.
  228. 21:08 AbrasiveObelisk Since Austin is a great face
  229. 21:08 Senerio triple threat between Austin/Pillman/HHH at Mania 15
  230. 21:08 AbrasiveObelisk I would love Hall in a year though
  231. 21:08 Senerio Shame
  232. 21:09 AbrasiveObelisk Oh and we'll turn Henry by Mania 15
  233. 21:09 Senerio we also have a Japanese Midcarder coming in
  234. 21:09 AbrasiveObelisk yeah
  235. 21:10 Kliff Yeah, if he comes up for renegotiation in another year, I can take a look at the situation again, for now, as good as he is, we'd have to squeeze him in real tight.
  236. 21:10 Senerio Depending on what happens between now and mania, we could have him join up with the shield in place of Ahmed for the outsiders gimmick.
  237. 21:11 AbrasiveObelisk Hall?
  238. 21:11 Senerio Japanese guy
  239. 21:11 AbrasiveObelisk Depends on who it is
  240. 21:11 Senerio yeah
  241. 21:11 Senerio and his chemistry with Stevie Ray
  242. 21:12 AbrasiveObelisk unless Stevie and ? are chasing the titles, it won't matter
  243. 21:12 Senerio yeah but that's why we're keeping Ahmed in there, for his tag chemistry with Stevie
  244. 21:12 AbrasiveObelisk right
  245. 21:12 AbrasiveObelisk but I don't think it's that important
  246. 21:27 Senerio <AbrasiveObelisk> unless Stevie and ? are chasing the titles, it won't matter
  247. 21:27 Senerio <Senerio> yeah but that's why we're keeping Ahmed in there, for his tag chemistry with Stevie
  248. 21:27 Senerio <AbrasiveObelisk> right
  249. 21:27 Senerio <AbrasiveObelisk> but I don't think it's that important
  250. 21:27 Senerio <Senerio> I've been trying to write up UK's main event but I can't think of anything really to do
  251. 21:27 Senerio <AbrasiveObelisk> same
  252. 21:27 Senerio <Senerio> I can't think of anything to do outside of the ending spot
  253. 21:27 Senerio <Senerio> (Bret gets HBK in for a hot tag, but Vader ducks under the SCM at the end of it and Vader Bombs him for the 3)
  254. 21:27 Senerio <AbrasiveObelisk> HBK doesn't like the idea of tagging Bret in
  255. 21:27 Senerio <AbrasiveObelisk> but hits a big comeback when he has to
  256. 21:27 Senerio <AbrasiveObelisk> While Vader and Bulldog work very well together
  257. 21:27 Senerio <Senerio> yeah for the first half, HBK takes on the two of them on his own. Bret tags himself in, and does his moves, and is overwhelmed until the hot tag
  258. 21:27 Senerio <JoeRules> I really like the Bossman gimmick idea
  259. 21:27 Senerio <AbrasiveObelisk> it's true
  260. 21:27 Senerio <JoeRules> Make him the new Head of Programming at HBO, who REALLY doesn't like wrestling
  261. 21:27 Senerio <JoeRules> He wants to watch movies like <insert here>, and programs like Arli$$!
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