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  1. <Mask{Steve}> so claire >_> are we going to have that meeting today?
  2. <Claire> it was tomorrow :o
  3. <Claire> we agreed sunday
  4. <Mask{Steve}> Ah. I see. Sorry, I have today off >_>
  5. <Claire> :c
  6. <Claire> well I don't have time today
  7. <Claire> I'm sorry
  8. <Mask{Steve}> Hmm >_> sorry
  9. <Claire> I literally just got back from a 12 hour train ride, and a 1 week vacation, I'm really worn out
  10. <Claire> it's ok
  11. <Claire> relax
  12. <Claire> it's nothing bad :o
  13. <Claire> right?
  14. <Mask{Steve}> Euuugh >.> I don't want to cause problems
  15. <Claire> what do you mean?
  16. <Claire> I'm calm, I'd like for you to be calm too and just talk to me, tell me what you mean
  17. <Mask{Steve}> mm >_> I dunno if I have tomorrow off...
  18. <Claire> that's ok
  19. <Claire> well
  20. <Claire> we'll see
  21. <Claire> it's not the end of the world if we need to postpone it a little longer
  22. <Claire> but I can't do it tonight, I'm sorry :c
  23. <Claire> I'm not in the right mind for it
  24. <Mask{Steve}> okay :c
  25. <Claire> I'm sorry to be disappointing
  26. <Claire> I want to get this over with a lot
  27. <Claire> I feel bad about the whole thing and would just like for it to be resolved and over
  28. <Claire> so I swear I'm not intentionally posponing it, I really am too tired tonight :c
  29. <Mask{Steve}> okay :( sorry if I postpone it longer >_> corgs has things going on >.<
  30. <Claire> I understand
  31. <Claire> I'm just worried that I'll have a reputation in anthro now, and people will be afraid to talk to me or make friends with me :c
  32. <Claire> that idea scares me a lot
  33. <Claire> especially considering I'm so set on improving
  34. <Mask{Steve}> well :/ I tried to help you >.< I didn't mean to drive you away >_>
  35. <Claire> It's ok
  36. <Claire> I accept responsibility for parts of it :c
  37. <Claire> I was afraid to get help because I was afraid changing myself would alientate my close friends
  38. <Claire> I know it sounds silly
  39. <Mask{Steve}> no >_> I shouldn't have pushed change on you :(
  40. <Claire> but I hope you at least understand :c
  41. <Claire> it's alright, I want to be better
  42. <Claire> I met an new person today
  43. <Claire> I tried my best to be good
  44. <Claire> I didn't frown when I didn't need to
  45. <Claire> and I was very considerate, I think it went well c:
  46. <Mask{Steve}> oh? :D who was it?
  47. <Claire> umm
  48. <Claire> let me look :o
  49. <Claire> Archailect
  50. <Claire> c:
  51. <Mask{Steve}> cool :D do you have any logs? If that's okay, I mean >_> it's easier to help point out what went well
  52. <Claire> umm
  53. <Claire> sorry :c
  54. <Claire> it was on my phone on the train home
  55. <Claire> not on the pc
  56. <Claire> I would if I could
  57. <Claire> I don't think my phone keeps logs
  58. <Mask{Steve}> oh x3 that's okay
  59. <Claire> anyway
  60. <Claire> I just tried to be calm
  61. <Claire> and not overly emotional
  62. <Claire> that's mostly where people think I'm being manipualative or guilt trippy
  63. <Claire> when I get over emotional :c
  64. <Claire> I'm just an emotional person I guess, but I'm working to try and fix it
  65. <Claire> I think anyway, from my self reflection
  66. <Mask{Steve}> no :U being emotional is okay. It's making people feel bad and not like you that we want to change ^^
  67. <Claire> I see
  68. <Claire> I don't try to make people feel bad :s
  69. <Claire> see
  70. <Mask{Steve}> I know ^^
  71. <Claire> I'm kinda self depreciative
  72. <Claire> :c
  73. <Claire> so when I feel bad about myself, people feel bad
  74. <Claire> which isn't good
  75. <Claire> but it's genuinely me just... being not happy with myself
  76. <Claire> not trying to do anything else
  77. <Mask{Steve}> I know you're not trying to. That's why I want to help :D
  78. <Mask{Steve}> okay, look at what's been said here. Now, I'm not insulting you, I'm just trying to help ^^
  79. <Claire> I see, thank you
  80. <Claire> umm
  81. <Claire> well, it's ok I think
  82. <Claire> I just hope nobody hates me too much :s
  83. <Claire> like
  84. <Claire> ireparably so
  85. <Claire> I know silver hates me
  86. <Claire> but I don't like silver either so, that's ok I guess
  87. <Mask{Steve}> silver hates 90% of humanity :u
  88. <Claire> why do you guys put up with him?
  89. <Mask{Steve}> eh :U I like him. I just understand that he's abrasive and exaggerates, but I like him :3
  90. <Claire> :c
  91. <Mask{Steve}> hmm?
  92. <Claire> he laughed at me in public and told me to deal with it
  93. <Claire> he hates me even though we only talked twice and it was like, really neutral conversation
  94. <Mask{Steve}> well, yeah. That's silver. He is abrasive :U
  95. <Claire> I know a lot of other people who don't like him too, but nobody ever says anything
  96. <Claire> like, really don't like him :v
  97. <Claire> anyway
  98. <Claire> enough about that
  99. <Mask{Steve}> yeh :u
  100. <Claire> as long as he stays away from me that's not a problem
  101. <Mask{Steve}> wait
  102. <Mask{Steve}> :u
  103. <Mask{Steve}> who else doesn't like silver?
  104. <Claire> :P
  105. <Claire> I'm not saying
  106. <Claire> sorry
  107. <Mask{Steve}> hmm. :c okay
  108. <Claire> I know but
  109. <Claire> nobody tells me who said what about me :<
  110. <Claire> so it hardly seems fair for me to say things about people myself
  111. <Mask{Steve}> Well, I can name names. I just don't because it's shitty to do that in a public chat :c I just want to know who said bad things about my friend...
  112. <Claire> I'm not
  113. <Claire> the person who said it is a close friend and I refuse to incrimate them in any way
  114. <Claire> sorry
  115. <Claire> we should move on
  116. <Mask{Steve}> wait, it was just one person?
  117. <Claire> well
  118. <Claire> persons :/
  119. <Claire> I'm trying to be non-specific here
  120. <Claire> please stop chasing me down over it
  121. <Claire> ok?
  122. <Mask{Steve}> I don't like people talking bad about my friends :c it really bothers me.
  123. <Claire> well it really bothers me that he said bad things about me :/
  124. <Claire> and I'm choosing not to pursue that because I know it won't help anything
  125. <Mask{Steve}> well, pursuing this will help me :c I want to know who doesn't like silver...
  126. * Claire shakes her head
  127. <Claire> I'm not telling you, if you ask again I'm not replying
  128. <Claire> can we talk about something else please?
  129. <Claire> :c
  130. <Claire> please?
  131. <Mask{Steve}> I want to know that you're not lying to me :c I haven't heard anything about this before, and this is important to me...
  132. <Claire> ugh
  133. <Claire> Mask you're really pinning me in a corner here
  134. <Claire> this is making me intensely uncomfortable
  135. <Mask{Steve}> well, I'm sorry, but I look after my good friends. :c I'm not going to drop the topic.
  136. <Claire> I look after my good friends too
  137. <Claire> so we're at a crossroads :/
  138. <Claire> this isn't healthy
  139. <Mask{Steve}> :/ we can handle this at the meeting tomorrow?
  140. <Claire> no
  141. * Notify: karolek is online (Tulpa.info)
  142. * Notify: karolek is offline (Tulpa.info)
  143. <Claire> it's got nothing to do with it
  144. * Notify: karolek is online (Tulpa.info)
  145. * Notify: karolek is offline (Tulpa.info)
  146. <Claire> silver is banned from the meeting anyway
  147. <Claire> it has nothing to do with him
  148. <Mask{Steve}> Well, I think it has to do with him. Trying to turn me against my friend does have something to do with the issue :/
  149. <Claire> I'm not trying to turn you against anyone
  150. <Claire> I don't care that you like him
  151. <Claire> if you can't handle that someone doesn't like your friend, that's your own fault
  152. <Mask{Steve}> "why do you put up with him"
  153. <Claire> it was just a general question
  154. <Claire> you answered it
  155. <Claire> you said he's just abrasive
  156. <Mask{Steve}> that sounds a lot like an insinuation that I shouldn't.
  157. <Claire> I accept that that's how you feel, and that's how he can be your friend
  158. <Claire> :s
  159. <Claire> he's a real asshole to me
  160. <Claire> I wanted to know how you could like him
  161. <Claire> you told me
  162. <Claire> that's it
  163. <Claire> you can infer all you like
  164. <Claire> it's no dirt on me
  165. <Mask{Steve}> Hmm. I'm going to have to bring this up tomorrow >_> this is an issue for me.
  166. <Claire> no
  167. <Claire> it's not
  168. <Mask{Steve}> it is!
  169. <Claire> you're making an issue out of nothing
  170. <Claire> if you involve this in the meeting I'm not coming :/
  171. <Claire> it's not what I agreed to
  172. <Claire> I agreed to come to a meeting to help resolve my unintentional manipulativeness, not squabble about friends
  173. <Claire> You like Silver, I and some of my friends don't, I wanted to know why you did, you said
  174. <Claire> that's all there is to it :c
  175. <Claire> it's not a big deal
  176. <Claire> This isn't helping anyone
  177. <Claire> please? :<
  178. <Mask{Steve}> well, you're the one who's been accused, and you put off the meeting. It's an unintentional manipulation, and it needs to be addressed
  179. <Claire> what!!!
  180. <Claire> the meeting was always on sunday
  181. <Claire> that's what we agreed to!
  182. <Claire> how dare you!
  183. <Mask{Steve}> no, the meeting was when we first moved to anthro :c
  184. <Claire> and I said
  185. <Mask{Steve}> what?
  186. <Claire> can we postpone this to when I've had a good rest and have access to a keyboard
  187. <Claire> because I was on a fucking. phone!
  188. <Claire> with 10% battery
  189. <Mask{Steve}> okay :c I'll see you tomorrow...
  190. <Claire> they said yes, we talked a date
  191. <Claire> we said sunday
  192. <Claire> why is this a big deal :c
  193. <Mask{Steve}> I'm sorry :c I didn't mean to cause any issues.
  194. * Claire sighs
  195. <Claire> are you doing this on purpose?
  196. <Claire> I think you are
  197. <Claire> I think you're just trying to get back at me and that's no way to fix this :c
  198. <Mask{Steve}> because silver is my friend, and I want to make sure and accusations about him are true :c
  199. <Mask{Steve}> I'm not doing anything on purpose :c
  200. <Claire> :/
  201. <Mask{Steve}> :/
  202. * Notify: karolek is online (Tulpa.info)
  203. <Claire> ok
  204. <Claire> to me
  205. * Notify: karolek is offline (Tulpa.info)
  206. <Claire> ugh
  207. <Claire> whatever, just
  208. <Claire> give me a minute to calm down
  209. * Claire takes a deep breath
  210. <Mask{Steve}> I'm not doing anything o purpose! :c
  211. <Claire> ok, I accept that
  212. <Claire> I accept that, and I apologize for getting emotional
  213. <Claire> just allow me a minute to calm myself
  214. <Claire> I understand that you want to look out for your friend, even though that friend is someone who dislikes me, and I dislike them
  215. <Claire> but, the friend/s who have revealed to me that they don't like him, did so on good faith that it would stay between me and them, so as not to make anyone think differently of them for their feelings on silver
  216. <Claire> thus, I cannot tell you their names, and I apologize
  217. <Mask{Steve}> okay :c I think we should put this on hold. I'll speak with you later.
  218. <Claire> this is not an issue for the meeting
  219. <Claire> it is not concerned with the meeting
  220. <Claire> this is between us
  221. <Claire> and only us
  222. <Claire> if you drag anyone else in, I refuse to speak about it
  223. * Claire sighs
  224. <Claire> I like you mask :c
  225. <Claire> I want to be your friend
  226. <Claire> I don't want anyone to dislike anyone
  227. <Mask{Steve}> okay :c I have to bring it up though. I want you to be there to defend yourself, but it's an issue, and it has to happen even if you're not there
  228. <Mask{Steve}> I'm sorry :c
  229. <Claire> why is it an issue between anyone but us?
  230. <Claire> I don't understand that
  231. <Mask{Steve}> because I don't know if it's true or not, and I felt like you were trying to turn me against my friend :c that's the entire problem. You've lied to me before, so I can't be sure...
  232. <Claire> I'm not trying to turn you against silver
  233. <Claire> I've told you before, and I've told you now
  234. <Claire> I don't mind that he's your friend
  235. <Claire> that's your business
  236. <Claire> just as my dealings with my friends is my business :c
  237. <Mask{Steve}> but the way you asked my why I put up with him made it seem like you wanted me to not like him :c
  238. <Claire> I apologize
  239. <Claire> but that was not what I was trying to imply
  240. <Claire> you infered it
  241. <Claire> nothing more
  242. <Claire> and you infering something from a straightfoward question is not unintentional manipulation
  243. <Claire> it's you reading into things :c
  244. <Mask{Steve}> yes it is :c you inferred it by the way you said it...
  245. <Claire> umm
  246. <Claire> no, I don't inferr
  247. <Claire> that's what the word means
  248. <Claire> infer means that you gained something from it
  249. <Claire> imply means that I provided something
  250. <Claire> if you infered but I didn't imply, that means you read something when there wasn't anything
  251. <Mask{Steve}> maybe this is me over reacting. That will be decided tomorrow :c This is a problem. I'm sorry...
  252. <Claire> it's not a problem mask :c
  253. <Claire> it's you reading into everything I say
  254. <Claire> how am I meant to try and help myself if you just read into everything I say like it's a lie
  255. <Claire> it is you over reacting >.<
  256. <Claire> and if you mention that we had this conversation in a pm it'll invalidate the whole thing :/
  257. <Claire> you're wrong, mask, you're looking for a lie where there is none
  258. <Claire> I came to try and mend whatever strife was between us
  259. <Mask{Steve}> I'm sorry :/ I have to bring this up regardless. If it's truly an overreaction, people will call me out on it.
  260. <Claire> :c
  261. <Claire> Mask
  262. <Claire> please
  263. <Claire> I'm so tired out
  264. <Claire> I just want this all to end and you're adding to it >_<
  265. <Claire> can't you just leave me alone
  266. <Claire> have you not done enough?
  267. <Mask{Steve}> okay :c I'm sorry... I didn't mean to hurt you >.< I'll see you tomorrow.
  268. <Claire> if you really didn't mean to hurt me
  269. <Claire> you'd just forget all this :/<Claire> it wasa simple chain of conversation that you turned into an issue
  270. <Claire> but no, you can't accept that
  271. <Claire> I'm claire
  272. <Claire> everything I do has to be a trick
  273. * Claire sighs
  274. <Claire> ok then :c
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