From:  "jemcgloin@verizon.net" <jemcgloin@verizon.net>
To:  september17 <september17@googlegroups.com>
Date:  Sun, 18 Dec 2011 14:11:22 -0500

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We should not be fighting nature when it is unnecessary.  It is cold
outside and everything slows down in the cold.  We don't need to
hibernate, but we don't need to pretend its September.  It is
important to remember that occupation is a tactic, not the goal.
Although there were definite advantages to having a centralized place
on the ground, our movement doesn't depend on centralization, and in
many ways Bloomberg did us a favor.

Moving the GA to an inside space for a while is a good idea. It may
also be smart to have fewer of them for a little while.  From what I
hear attendance is very low.  If conducted without signs and without
yelling, it may be possible to have them in other indoor spaces around
the city.  If we followed a person with a tour guide flag into a space
security might not think twice about us.

Also, occupying pending foreclosures is an excellent strategy for
helping people and solving our problems at the same time.
Just some ideas, John

On Dec 18, 11:55 am, Jon Good <therealjong...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I really like the idea of 50 Broadway.  Is there any reason why we
> shouldn't?  Obviously, we should run it by the UFT to make sure they're
> cool with it, and what guidelines they need us to follow so they can be in
> place beforehand.
>
> I would love to work on strategies to avoid the tension and animosity that
> resulted from so many angry, frustrated people being crammed into a small
> space and surrounded by cops, and had folks saying "fuck you, I live here,
> the GA consensus can't make me do X." (or what seemed like the pervasive
> attitude of crusty white males that there was a secret cabal who controlled
> the GA so it didn't really represent Occupy).
>
> Also What is the state of housing right now?  Are there still union halls
> and churches that are available?
>
> Solidarity,
>
> Jon
>
> On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Jackie DiSalvo <jdisa...@nyc.rr.com>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Many in OWS and the Labor Groups understand that since the eviction OWS
> > (aside from housing problems) OWS has also lost a lot of its ability to***
> > *
>
> >             Recruit from walk-ins****
>
> >             Mobilize for actions****
>
> >             Maintain attendance at GAs****
>
> >             Maintain as much communication & coordination between working
> > groups & causes****
>
> >             Maximize functioning of working groups****
>
> > ** **
>
> > Yesterday Dec 17 an unsuccessful attempt to re-occupy an outdoor space.
> > There are advantages to such a space, i.e. combining meeting housing &
> > organizing needs. But there are also disadvantages: difficulty of getting
> > outdoor space to occupy, restricted  participation due to the cold season,
> > postponing solving the problem of acquiring an indoor space for OWS
> > organizing needs. Recognizing this the GA has now proposed moving its
> > meeting to an indoor rented space.****
>
> > ** **
>
> > WE NEED—RIGHT AWAY- A GEOGRAPHICALLY SUITABLE GROUND FLOOR (preferably
> > store front) INDOOR SPACE FOR OWS ORGANIZING NEEDS (i.e. other than
> > housing, which requires different kinds of spaces and can be addressed
> > separately) ****
>
> > ** **
>
> > There are VARIOUS OPTIONS FOR ACQUIRING SUCH SPACE: This needs a
> > committee and an accountable process.****
>
> > ** **
>
> > **1)    **USING OUR STORAGE SPACE at 50 Broadway; it’s large (needs to be
> > checked out), open, adaptable, is near Wall St. and has ground floor access
> > to the public. It would be much easier to find alternative storage spaces.
> > ****
>
> > ** **
>
> > **2)    **Finding a RENTAL SPACE TO BE FINANCED BY  DONATIONS FROM UNIONS
> > ETC.****
>
> > ****
>
> > **3)    **FUNDING SUCH A SPACE FROM OUR EXISTING FUNDS****
>
> > ** **
>
> > **4)    **OTHER ????****
>
> > ** **