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  1. URL irc://irc.geekshed.net/rpwp Mode +ntrS Users 11, 1@, 0%, 0+
  2. Topic http://rpwp.tumblr.com/ | Обсуждаем создание русского writing prompt'а | Discussing the creaton of a Russian pony writing prompt. Hopefully, somepony speaks English here
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  13. Aurora And sense of depravity.
  14. elctrnmcn Here he is
  15. Dixdy oh you...
  16. Listic hi
  17. Aurora OK, should we begin?
  18. Dixdy Hi you there!
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  21. Aurora lold
  22. Dixdy Let`s start the paartyy!
  23. elctrnmcn wat
  24. Aurora Pinkie Pie gangbangs in!
  25. elctrnmcn facepalms
  26. sullome listen "Apples to the Core"
  27. Eakin OOOOOOoooooOOOh! There ponies don't want to party, they want to Par-Tay!
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  29. sullome As says my friends: "Time to go to Vegas"
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  47. sullome Leaf is a God now...
  48. Aurora Why
  49. sullome 'cause listic == leaf
  50. Aurora я знаю
  51. Aurora ок
  52. Dixdy Apples to the core... same here
  53. Eakin Such a good episode!
  54. Balthasar999 Seriously. It was what I was hoping the show would become when I first saw it.
  55. sullome Too short, I think.
  56. Eakin I love the episodes that focus on one or two of the Mane Six
  57. sullome Same here
  58. Balthasar999 I liked the faster pacing a lot, too. Made it seem to flow more naturally, instead of jumping from topic to topic.
  59. Dixdy Yeah... they looks more solid and less fragmented.
  60. test123 But what happend with PP in last 2 season she's kinda very stupid now -_-
  61. Aurora This episode suddenly reminded me about "It Makes No Difference Who We Are" by Celldweller.
  62. Eakin I do not love what they've done with Pinkie, I agree that she seems shallower than she was, say, in 'Party of One'
  63. Eakin I was fine with her role in this episode though
  64. Dixdy Pinkie not stupid... she just a lightminded.
  65. sullome Pinkie is just a Pinkie. Not stupid, but strange.
  66. Balthasar999 Yeah, this episode wasn't really about her - She was sort of the MacGuffin the Apples were transporting.
  67. test123 too strange... more like crazy
  68. sullome I think that she just... pretending...
  69. Dixdy just random
  70. Balthasar999 That's sorta the impression I got, too - At the end she basically came out and said she knew about their fighting all along and didn't care
  71. Aurora Well, she's either too stupid or sly.
  72. Balthasar999 They go overboard sometimes, but I do like the way they use Pinkie to play around with animation gags.
  73. |<-- citizen_erased has left irc.geekshed.net (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
  74. Eakin My favorite Pinkie gag remains the Fluttershy Suit from S3E2
  75. test123 yep, last episode PP was fine))
  76. Aurora Listic! Should we begin?
  77. Aurora Hello?
  78. Dixdy Pinkie Pie - just normal toon character. Overtoon maybe. She make hard situation a little brighter and more funny.
  79. Balthasar999 Hah, I was just thinking about that yesterday, in that context. It was good on its own, but what pushed it over the top was Fluttershy actually interacting with it.
  80. Listic Aurora: yes, that would be great.
  81. Balthasar999 The show's always been pretty self-aware, though, so I think a lot of Pinkie's antics are pretty appropriate.
  82. Aurora Then introduce our herd, for Celestia's beard.
  83. Listic ok, I don't seem to know all of you but
  84. Eakin I'm Eakin! You may know me as 'Eakin' on fimfic. I wrote Hard Reset and the whole Time Loop Trilogy
  85. Dixdy Just start and ask others if you not.
  86. Listic Great! I love your stories
  87. Eakin We're doing inroductions now, I assume?
  88. Aurora yep
  89. Listic Dixdy, Feuerleiter and Veon are from the Russian brony site Tabun. Anyone else?
  90. Dixdy Seems yes!
  91. Balthasar999 Hard Reset was an awesome idea
  92. Aurora Me.
  93. elctrnmcn me
  94. Eakin I owe most of the credit to Skywriter
  95. Litho Well, me
  96. sullome me too from russian herd
  97. Listic ok
  98. Listic Who's from Thirty Minute Ponies?
  99. Listic Noone came?
  100. Dixdy I`m DxD2 from russian fimfiction site Stories.tabun - Author of Adventures of Dixdi, artefactor of Equestria and storyline of ancient race called Demicorns... totally original and canonical at same time stories.
  101. Dixdy Seems noone from TMP here...
  102. Listic ok, I've invited the organizers of Thirty Minute Ponies, but seems like they didn't come, probably because I've invited them in the last moment, or the time isn't convenient for their time zone
  103. Dixdy Sad to hear it.
  104. Balthasar999 I'm Balthasar999 on FiMFiction and DeviantArt. Working on two stories called P-Theory and The Elements of Truth, but I mostly draw so I have no idea what I'm doing.
  105. Dixdy You are artist-fanfiker I think :))
  106. Dixdy Same here...
  107. Listic Great. I've read all of it
  108. sullome Maybe you just a bard?
  109. Listic Can't wait for more
  110. Listic I wonder why you were so kind to 'Mary is a Mare'. I started reading it
  111. Listic and can't wait for anything, just anything to start
  112. Balthasar999 I dunno, it tickled me just right. But yeah, it does take fucking forever to get going.
  113. Balthasar999 Uh, sorry Dixdy
  114. Eakin So what are we supposed to be talking about, exactly?
  115. Dixdy sorry for what?
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  117. Eakin 'Cause I'm pretty sure we're all making this up as we go
  118. Balthasar999 You said earlier you didn't like swearing, or something. I dunno, I'm kinda multitasking here.
  119. Listic that must be one of those cases where art convinced me to start reading a story. The other one was Twilight, Revised and I'm not happy about that.
  120. Dixdy oh.
  121. elctrnmcn We were supposed to talt about Thirty Minutes Pony
  122. Listic also I think it didn't have all three of the tags (Sad, Dark, Tragedy) when I first added it to the reading list
  123. Listic sure we are
  124. Listic so what do you think of 30 minutes time limit?
  125. Listic everyone I talked to thought it's way too short
  126. Eakin Yeah, I'd say too short
  127. Eakin BUT
  128. elctrnmcn It's a question of experience
  129. Aurora_Desktop Yep. I'm so pleased to meet such big figures in fandom.
  130. Eakin Testing yourself against an obstacle like that is good for an aspiring author, I think
  131. Balthasar999 I think it works. The stories will be really short, but as a writing prompt it's a good chunk of time to get you used to just putting words on the page.
  132. Listic ok
  133. Eakin I mean, you only have so much time to take out of 'real life' and write, make the most of it
  134. sullome I think 30 minutes is Ok.
  135. Dixdy Hmmm... seems legit... what kind of story?
  136. elctrnmcn But wouldn't it result in something trashy?
  137. elctrnmcn To just put words on page
  138. Dixdy And how to calc spended time?
  139. Balthasar999 Timer + Honor system
  140. Dixdy Oh-hoh... funny..
  141. Aurora_Desktop Hopefully, time spent on writing(as on any deed) is better than time doing nothing.
  142. sullome Imagine the story, then 30 minutes to just write it. Am I right?
  143. Eakin Like how to value it or how to figure out how much you've sunk into miniture equine fiction?
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  145. Dixdy I started small story... but now it nearly 180k words in it... strange to write small pieces of story.
  146. Dixdy You never know where story stops...
  147. Dixdy ... or what the characters will do.
  148. Aurora_Desktop A small samples of DNA makes a whale such a big creature, Dixdy.
  149. Aurora_Desktop make*
  150. Eakin Stories never stop, we just pick a place to stop telling them
  151. Dixdy I like a never ending stories
  152. sullome Hello, Doctor
  153. Listic Dixdy, do you plan ahead?
  154. Dixdy They like a tree with thousands branches.
  155. Eakin That's called 'Life' Dix
  156. Aurora_Desktop Disagree. Life will eventually end at someone's or time's will.
  157. Dixdy Nope... I just sitting and watching what my characters do and want... what fell and where go.
  158. Eakin Well, for you maybe
  159. Listic I heard for some writers their characters just live in their minds and the writers don't know where the story will go
  160. Aurora_Desktop No story can be endless, but zero should be forgotten.
  161. Dixdy What feel... and how react... and - just write that
  162. Listic I wonder how it is for the rest of you
  163. Listic is this common or not
  164. Balthasar999 Yeah, that's a nice feeling, when things just fall into place naturally like that.
  165. Eakin I'm like that. My characters talk to one another in my head and I just write it down
  166. Listic As for me, this seems crazy: what if the story will just stall and there will be nowhere to go from there
  167. Aurora_Desktop It must be easy to write with a mind like that.
  168. Listic This happens sometimes, right
  169. Dixdy Just finger snap... and world will opens for you in any place and any time - see - and make it on paper on in letters line.
  170. Listic I mean you can write yourself into the corner
  171. Eakin Not really, because they do the same scene over and over and I have to pick the one I want to use, or merge several of them together
  172. Balthasar999 If it stalls, just start writing garbage and let it inspire you to clean it up into something presentable later. Or get drunk and just go at it.
  173. Dixdy If you have whole world - story never stops...
  174. Eakin alcohol is an essential tool in the author's kit
  175. Listic Dixdy, I must read what you write
  176. Eakin also caffeine
  177. Aurora_Desktop Not really.
  178. Dixdy Cofee... must have.
  179. sullome This is... roleplaying.
  180. Listic So, did any of you actually write for a prompt?
  181. Dixdy To avoid story corner - just make a freedom for characters to act like they want.
  182. Eakin Two beers, two glasses of soda, two AM. The magic combination. For me, at least
  183. Dixdy I'll start writing right now... but - where to post it?
  184. Listic I dunno, it can't be that easy, Dixdy. Of course the character can always do something, but not everything is worth writing about.
  185. Dixdy Some kind a place to post it in comments right after others maybe?
  186. Eakin There's a saying that whenever you're you're at an impasse, have somebody burst into the room and start shooting
  187. Dixdy make your character alive... that a secret.
  188. Balthasar999 If you're seriously in a corner, I find it helps to write down events on notecards and then move them around on the floor so you can actually see how the story is laid out.
  189. Dixdy Why so complicated...
  190. Aurora_Desktop That's not complicated.
  191. Listic because human memory capacity is limited.
  192. Listic we need all the help we can get
  193. Aurora_Desktop Compicated is a way to steal concepts, merge them and then do MAGIK with it to make the Frankenstein alive.
  194. Aurora_Desktop Human memory capacity is not limited, I promise.
  195. Eakin Yeah. Steal. Steal brazenly and shamelessly
  196. Dixdy you get world? Make it work! Character don't know what to do? Whole world before him! That... fascinating! How could nothing to happens in whole world if it not a decoration.
  197. sullome Кто-нибудь, объясните мне, что сейчас происходит. Мы же вроде должны говорить не о том, как писать рассказы, а про 30-минутные зарисовки и организационную часть, разве нет?
  198. Dixdy Yeah...
  199. Dixdy ou right.
  200. Aurora_Desktop Да вообще все равно. Начнем скоро. Дай поговорить с иностранцами людям.
  201. Aurora_Desktop Это же, считай, зоопарк.
  202. sullome Такие же люди, как и мы.
  203. Dixdy I understand you perfectly...Aurora.
  204. sullome С такими же мыслями и проблемами. У них трава не зеленее.
  205. Aurora_Desktop "brazenly and shamelessly". But when anybody will reach the crime scene - MACAVITY NOT THERE.
  206. Aurora_Desktop (Goddamn Cats musical, so magnifying)
  207. Dixdy Nope... grass as green as anywhere else... just money looks deferent.
  208. Aurora_Desktop "I understand you perfectly..." Well there, no offense, but I'm much more materialistic than any of you.
  209. Dixdy In which aspect?
  210. Eakin Well, I'm not saying you should get caught
  211. Aurora_Desktop In every. No offense, but we're here to discuss writing process\prompts, not me.
  212. Eakin I feel like my 'process' should be more complicated
  213. Eakin I just get ideas, sit down, and slam them out
  214. Aurora_Desktop Well, if anybody will get caught, welcome to copyright protection system, welcome to emptying your wallets and pass away with shame.
  215. Eakin Fair Use is a very broad umbrella
  216. Aurora_Desktop And that's your big luck to receive this present from mother nature.
  217. Aurora_Desktop Imagination.
  218. Eakin A blessing and a curse. It doesn't come with an off switch.
  219. Aurora_Desktop 90% of fandom(Russian on my statistics) are imagining " And then John were a zombie"-alike ideas.
  220. Dixdy Okay! Let's check some points... 30 minutes, story... text... where to post final result? Where topic with comments for stories? When to post them? If all today - maybe need some thread or something? Public googledock?
  221. Eakin But mostly blessing. I can't even remember what being bored feels like
  222. Dixdy Aurora, you are so...
  223. Eakin Dix, I'd publish an anthology fic, and add each 30-minute fic as a chapter if I were you
  224. Balthasar999 Just the existential kind, in my case. Imagination makes ordinary life intolerably narrow most of the time.
  225. Listic I like tumblr because a) scheduled posts and b) "submit story" feature, but it lacks discussion.
  226. Listic Yes. Sounds right
  227. Dixdy one chapter takes nearly 7-9hours... so - no...
  228. Aurora_Desktop Whom I am, then?
  229. Listic no, these chapters will take 30 minutes, or an hour, or two
  230. Listic the idea is to assemble all short stories from a prompt and publish them together
  231. Listic e.g. on stories.everypony.ru
  232. Aurora_Desktop Tumblr is best idea, but there's a problem.
  233. Dixdy Sketchup stories... oh... what a decision? Should we start or someone already started?
  234. Aurora_Desktop How will authors insert their stories in a post?
  235. Dixdy In description...
  236. Dixdy haha
  237. Aurora_Desktop Some kind of "submit" form can be only done on external platform.
  238. Aurora_Desktop Well, it's good "comments" - but!
  239. Aurora_Desktop There are always "but"s.
  240. Listic my idea is they submit stories to Tumblr, and then Tumblr maintainder may paste them to Tabun and Stories when finished.
  241. Aurora_Desktop Spamming scholars never could evaporate out of any public page,
  242. Aurora_Desktop do you like Ctrl-F-gp ahead and waste time to find?
  243. Dixdy Eww
  244. Listic I guess I should start that Tumblr, and a Tabun blog too, maybe?
  245. Listic I wonder what kind of discussion do we want, if any
  246. Aurora_Desktop I guess some sort of external "insert" form is good.
  247. Listic TMP does fine without one
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  249. elctrnmcn tabun has all the instruments you need for submitting, commenting and stuff
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  251. Veon ...it just needs registration.
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  253. Dixdy But... all of us have there account?
  254. Dixdy indeed
  255. elctrnmcn Uhmm... nope
  256. Dixdy that a problem...
  257. elctrnmcn Stories @ EP is broken too
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  259. Dixdy If all have google mail - we can open public dock and add our stories there.
  260. Listic what's wrong with tumblr as primary place and everything else as secondary?
  261. Dixdy Also - commenting works perfectly
  262. |<-- Aurora has left irc.geekshed.net (Ping timeout)
  263. Veon emails work perfectly
  264. Dixdy tumbrl also needs a registration... right?
  265. elctrnmcn right
  266. Veon everyone has one
  267. elctrnmcn But at least it's free
  268. Dixdy Oh....
  269. Listic you can submit anonymously if you like
  270. Listic the registration is easy
  271. Dixdy oh?
  272. Aurora_Desktop I think of https://www.box.com
  273. Dixdy I have one..
  274. Listic it's just a dropbox clone. why it is good for this?
  275. Dixdy tumbrl...
  276. Aurora_Desktop Dropbox = zero sharing.
  277. elctrnmcn What tumblr lacks? Lets go from this point
  278. Aurora_Desktop Tumblr lacks only one point.
  279. Aurora_Desktop Comments could be overspammed.
  280. Aurora_Desktop How many idiots are on Tabun?
  281. Aurora_Desktop I think, we've got enough to make commenting only for authors with links comfortly impossible.
  282. elctrnmcn About 5 thousands?
  283. Aurora_Desktop Nope.
  284. Aurora_Desktop About 2k.
  285. Balthasar999 brb
  286. elctrnmcn see you
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  288. Aurora_Desktop 30% are interested in fanfiction.
  289. Dixdy 35%...
  290. Aurora_Desktop 45% of them are always on-air in discussion.
  291. Aurora_Desktop That makes round 270 unique commentators potentially on Tumblr,
  292. Aurora_Desktop And if even 2 are foolish enough to get where they shouldn't be, welcome to overflooded theme.
  293. Listic there are comments on Tumblr?
  294. elctrnmcn Kind of. Commenting on tumblr - real pain in the... at least for me
  295. Listic I don't use them and don't see them
  296. Dixdy think yes... but... not really useful. Depends on theme I think.
  297. Aurora_Desktop I think finest choice is to set up Tumblr and try to avoid flooders and trolls for first time.
  298. Aurora_Desktop Because online storages are not a pinnacle of cloud filekeeping.
  299. elctrnmcn There won't be any, I think
  300. Aurora_Desktop So is not Tumblr, but it is much more familiar.
  301. Listic I use tumblr since way back then but I'm ignorant about its features: are flooders and trolls even possible there? I think not
  302. Listic my tumblr where I scribble stuff for myself is http://nickolai.tumblr.com
  303. Feuerleiter And, finaly, we always can try. If there would be any problems with Tumblr, than we'll just find another option.
  304. Aurora_Desktop The ideal solution is to set up an external server and set up form to store content via SSL, which allows size-gates and prevents flooding with files. But without a proper server this will be useless. So I think we should try Tumblr.
  305. Listic I made http://rpwp.tumblr.com/
  306. sullome Вот.
  307. sullome Наконец-то.
  308. sullome Минусы есть ВСЕГДА, идеала не найти.
  309. =-= Listic has changed the topic to “http://rpwp.tumblr.com/ | Обсуждаем создание русского writing prompt'а | Discussing the creaton of a Russian pony writing prompt. Hopefully, somepony speaks English here”
  310. =-= Listic has changed the topic to “http://rpwp.tumblr.com/ | Обсуждаем создание русского writing prompt'а | Discussing the creaton of a Russian pony writing prompt. Hopefully, somepony speaks English here””
  311. Eakin I have literally zero interest in Tumblr. It puzzles and mystifies me. I'm perfectly happy sticking with Fimfic for publishing my content
  312. elctrnmcn your tumblr broke my eyes
  313. sullome Я предлагаю хотя бы попробовать начать с Тумблера.
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  315. sullome Потом уже посмотреть, как пойдёт.
  316. Dixdy That nice... and how to post here something?
  317. Aurora_Desktop Eakin, we are trying to find some solution about this mystery,which consists of proper publishing platform.
  318. Listic Eakin: I understand. I started using Tumblr way back when it was this newfangled unknown hipster thingy and I liked the fact that it's 'like blog, but easier'
  319. Dixdy I have best evening... err... midnight ever..
  320. Eakin What's wrong with just using google docs? You can even adjust permissions so others can add to it
  321. Dixdy not all have gmail i think...
  322. Listic Eakin: as far as I understand, with these writing prompts the main idea is to make you churn out fiction as fast as possible and tumblr makes it easy for several different authors to do (they just "Submit")
  323. Aurora_Desktop That is not.
  324. Aurora_Desktop Problem is different.
  325. Aurora_Desktop Look.
  326. Listic Well, you can write in whatever editor you like and then paste to tumblr
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  328. Listic oh, hi Obselescence!
  329. Obselescence Hello!
  330. Aurora_Desktop Setting up something in Russia will lead you to SAFETY AND MORE SAFETY NEEDED.
  331. sullome Гуглдоки не нужны вообще. Неудобно, слежка гугла, да ещё неразбериха с тем, кто куда что писать будет.
  332. Eakin Ah, I suppose that works then. But I don't go to tumblr unless the content is amazing. It's an obstacle in my eyes
  333. Obselescence Sorry if I'm late, I heard you guys wanted to talk?
  334. Obselescence Also Hi Eakin
  335. Eakin Hey Obs!
  336. Aurora_Desktop Hello Obselescence!
  337. Dixdy Hi you too!
  338. Listic Well, Obselescence, it would be interesting to know about your experience with Thirty Minute Pony Stories
  339. Dixdy We discussing now - how to post our works and where... before start...
  340. Obselescence Sure.
  341. Obselescence Anything in particular you'd like to ask about?
  342. Dixdy Yeah! In details
  343. Aurora_Desktop So Eakin, there's a problem always.
  344. Eakin So, would you say say I've neglected our third coop story, or TOTALLY neglected our third coop story
  345. Aurora_Desktop U know 4chan?
  346. Listic works here meanng very fast fics fro a prompt
  347. Obselescence I'd say I have no idea, but I'd be happy to work on it if you are, Eakin. :V
  348. Listic so, what about 4chan? I heard they do prompts there too
  349. Dixdy Obselescence - yes... how all that was organized... where authors post their works.. how was constructed whole process of 30m story writing... and so on.
  350. Eakin I'm actually in the middle of turning Taste of the Good Life into a for-real-for-money published book, so I don't think I'll have a ton of time before your vacation ends
  351. Obselescence Ah, 'kay.
  352. Obselescence Dixdy, that's a lot of questions. Let's see...
  353. Eakin Sorry.
  354. Dixdy Sorry
  355. Obselescence The organization work was done mostly like so:
  356. Eakin The Star Swirl thing was a really good idea though
  357. Obselescence -For each day of the week, one person was assigned to run the prompt.
  358. Obselescence -That person would be responsible for organizing the warnings for that day, commenting on the stories, and making sure the prompt ran smoothly for that day.
  359. Obselescence -If the person needed help, or wasn't able to run the prompt for that assigned day, another person was asked if they could help out or switch days for that week.
  360. Dixdy Oh! that how...
  361. Obselescence Authors submitted their stories either through email, or by using Tumblr's submit post function.
  362. Listic Ah! That's how you maintain the schedule
  363. Dixdy And story started after some theme post... and accepted to publish in strict time gape... i'm right?
  364. Aurora_Desktop About 4chan - imagine a 4chan which got a HUGE influence over all the social networks, including pony-orientated sites.
  365. Obselescence We organized three different posts to start the prompt:
  366. Obselescence a three hour warning, a one hour warning, and the prompt post
  367. Eakin Honestly, I don't feel like people do their best work under the thirty-minute time limit. I'm not saying there's no place for flash fics, but I wouldn't commit to writing them regularly
  368. Dixdy Great.
  369. Obselescence we accepted stories for about six hours, usually, and at that point posted a "Prompt Closed" announcement
  370. Aurora_Desktop Amount of vandals which will want to ruin any event is just excellent, that's why we've got Internetpolizei as much as we could recruit.
  371. Dixdy soo... 3 warning post... start shoot - and six hours after that to get a work...
  372. Obselescence Yes.
  373. elctrnmcn So, time limit is all about trust?
  374. Dixdy Sooo... time limit can be whole six hours... to be honest
  375. Aurora_Desktop So apart from fun out of making stories, wee need some safe platform to run it all.
  376. Obselescence Technically. We had two things that kept people honest, though:
  377. Obselescence You could not submit a story over 2000 words, because it would take too long to read through and we assumed people would not be able to write more than 2000 words in thirty minutes.
  378. Obselescence We allowed people to add a line indicating where they hit the thirty minute time limit to their story, so that they could finish the story if they needed just a couple extra minutes.
  379. Aurora_Desktop Well, Obselescence, that is an interesting rule.
  380. Obselescence But we generally did not allow stories where about half the story came after the time limit line.
  381. Dixdy Hmm... I write comments about 2.5-3.5k words in 25-30 minutes... or near it.
  382. Aurora_Desktop But in Russian, your 2000 words are easily metamorphosed to 7k words.
  383. Dixdy nope...
  384. Veon objection!
  385. sullome nope
  386. Obselescence Well, you could adjust your word limit to whatever is reasonable in Russian.
  387. Listic I believe 2k in Russian can be max 2.5k in English, honestly
  388. Dixdy english 2000k = 3.7-4k
  389. Obselescence 2000 is just what we used.
  390. Listic Well it's reasonable, usually people write less anyway
  391. Aurora_Desktop Yes, but that is not about amount of words, that is about amount of time spent.
  392. Dixdy Russian words sometimes longer...
  393. Listic Did you advertise? Do you have many non-regulars?
  394. Aurora_Desktop And, finally, the question - how much in average events are described in one story like this?
  395. Dixdy seems gape between 2000 - 3000 words ok.
  396. sullome Да какая нафиг разница с этими словами. Ставим ограничение в две тысячи и потом смотрим, что пришлют. Если многие будут говорить, что за полчаса и больше могут написать, то ОК.
  397. Obselescence We advertised three ways:
  398. Listic sullome: норм
  399. Obselescence -The mods advertised through their own venues.
  400. Aurora_Desktop Есть. Я задал вопрос о другом. Лучше узнать о событийности происходящего.
  401. Obselescence -We encouraged participants to spread the word about the blog.
  402. Obselescence -We made sure the posts on tumblr were tagged properly, so people searching those tags would be able to find them.
  403. Obselescence So if a story had Twilight Sparkle and Rarity in it, we made sure the post was tagged with #Twilight Sparkle and #Rarity
  404. elctrnmcn Well, what happens after all works submitted?
  405. Dixdy Oh oh... what about own characters? Ob backstage pony? Or other original creatures in alternate Equestria?
  406. Dixdy Make it any difference in judging?
  407. Obselescence When the prompt ended, we posted a Closing post and queue'd all the stories we'd commented on using Tumblr's queue function.
  408. Obselescence So that they'd all be posted, spaced out by about five or ten minutes.
  409. Obselescence Background ponies usually got their own tags. Original characters or creatures were either tagged something like #oc or went untagged.
  410. Listic Dixdy: there's no judging, silly
  411. elctrnmcn Isn't it too... spammy for feed?
  412. Obselescence We never received any complaints about spamming the feed.
  413. =-= Listic has changed the topic to “http://rpwp.tumblr.com/ | Обсуждаем создание русского writing prompt'а | Discussing the creaton of a Russian pony writing prompt. Hopefully, somepony speaks English here”
  414. Dixdy You know about what I am
  415. Listic how many followers have you got?
  416. Obselescence At current, 716 followers.
  417. Listic Dixdy: actually, I don't
  418. Dixdy Oh.
  419. Obselescence For Thirty Minute Ponies.
  420. elctrnmcn How many participants you have in average day?
  421. Listic nice to know
  422. Obselescence It depends a lot on the prompt, the day, and chance.
  423. Obselescence Sometimes we receive as few as one or two stories.
  424. Obselescence Other times we can get up to about twelve.
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  426. Obselescence Though that's rare.
  427. Dixdy I mean perception of story of course. Something already good because of well known character
  428. elctrnmcn It's not about winning, it's a about... completing, I guess
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  430. Listic I didn't notice if you answer to this: are there lot of non-regulars?
  431. Obselescence I'd estimate about six or seven stories submitted daily, on average.
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  433. Eakin Gotta run! Thanks, everypony!
  434. Obselescence But I suspect that number will vary a lot.
  435. Obselescence Seeya, Eakin.
  436. Eakin Bye!
  437. elctrnmcn See ya!
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  440. Dixdy elctrnmcn I know... but anywayWe write not fo write only - but to be read also...
  441. elctrnmcn It's like eith any other regular fanfictionNoone likes alicorn OC, for an ex
  442. elctrnmcn *with
  443. Dixdy And not create something trashy - but interesting for us and everyoune else
  444. elctrnmcn Ahem, Obselescence, what abou regular participants and casuals?
  445. Dixdy Alicorns OC cool.. but you need to know how to write.
  446. Obselescence What do you mean?
  447. elctrnmcn Dixdy, you need to know when to stop, I'd say
  448. Dixdy That like tnt... you blow story to pieces...Eh...
  449. elctrnmcn Are there many regular participants and what about those who writing for a first time?
  450. Listic I mean there are more or less the same participants each time, but do you have some new people too>
  451. Obselescence We have a number of regular participants. Sometimes they will leave, and sometimes we get new regulars.
  452. Listic ,
  453. elctrnmcn that ^
  454. elctrnmcn Yeah, I've got it
  455. Obselescence Most of the stories will be by regulars, usually, but sometimes there will be new submitters.
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  457. elctrnmcn Like any other community
  458. Obselescence We're usually nicer to them, if it's their first time, to encourage them to come back next time.
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  460. elctrnmcn Big question... What you'd say about *quality* of stories? Do you read them, personally?
  461. elctrnmcn Листик! Ты лог пишешь? Я потерял кусок с начала разговора.
  462. Obselescence The person running the prompt for that day usually reads the stories and adds a little comment on at the end.
  463. Obselescence We do not usually judge quality, but on Tuesdays NorsePony runs the prompt as a writing clinic, where he critiques the stories in his comments.
  464. Obselescence But most of the time, the comments will mention the things that the mod liked about the story, and won't focus much on the flaws.
  465. Obselescence Since it was only written in thirty minutes.
  466. Obselescence The goal is more encouraging people to write more often, than to produce the highest quality work.
  467. Dixdy Quantity to quality...
  468. elctrnmcn So, writers motivated by challenge AND possible feedback from moder AND readers?
  469. Obselescence Yes.
  470. elctrnmcn ow, who pick themes for prompt?
  471. elctrnmcn And how do you do it?
  472. Dixdy We can use a dices...
  473. Obselescence We have one theme week a month, usually, where the prompts are focused on a certain theme
  474. Dixdy 1-30 position - dice and result is theme
  475. elctrnmcn no we shouldn't...
  476. Obselescence which we decide amongst ourselves.
  477. Obselescence The rest of the time, the prompt is chosen by whoever is running the prompt for that day
  478. elctrnmcn I see, last one was about new episode
  479. elctrnmcn And there's two entries?
  480. Obselescence Entries?
  481. elctrnmcn Uhm, sorry. Two stories.
  482. elctrnmcn Nvm
  483. Listic I see 4 here http://thirtyminuteponies.tumblr.com/tagged/Prompt-546
  484. Obselescence The last prompt received some stories, but the mod running it for that day had some delays, so they have not been posted yet.
  485. Listic o no, ther's 4 announcement posts
  486. elctrnmcn Oh, I see.
  487. Listic How did you came to idea that 30 minutes is enough?
  488. Obselescence I'm not sure. I wasn't a founding member.
  489. Dixdy from speed art... I think
  490. Obselescence I was brought in about a month or two after it began.
  491. elctrnmcn Can you please name some well-known authors participated, if there's any?
  492. elctrnmcn Интервью какое-то получается. Есть ещё технические вопросы?
  493. Dixdy yeah... what about nsfw content... how you block or filter it?
  494. elctrnmcn Uhm, nsfw not allowed, that's the rule
  495. Obselescence NSFW content is simply not posted, if submitted.
  496. Dixdy great.
  497. Obselescence Well known authors... Not many participate regularly, though we get one every now and then.
  498. Dixdy I like it :))
  499. Obselescence Maybe the most well known regular participant is Donny's Boy.
  500. Dixdy I like that idea!! Definitely I'll try to do something for... Sound great and quite - motivating
  501. Dixdy Also short story can be used for more longer novels as bases... mmm niiiceee...
  502. Dixdy When we start?
  503. elctrnmcn Today's the day, Cutie Mark Crusaders!
  504. BadHorse (Sorry for not contributing. I've never been able to write anything to a prompt in half an hour, so I've never participated.)
  505. Dixdy heh!
  506. Dixdy Lets see... each saturday would be nice...
  507. Listic What about the timeframe for submission and time limit? Do we really want to try 30 min.?
  508. elctrnmcn So, if there's no more questions?
  509. elctrnmcn Ehem, you kinda missed that point in our conversation earlier
  510. elctrnmcn And I can't PM because not registered
  511. Listic I'd like to ask a technical question: are all of you set up as moderators for thirtyminuteponies? I don't see a place to add multiple moderators.
  512. Listic elctrnmcn: not registered on tumblr?
  513. elctrnmcn Not registered on IRC
  514. BadHorse "all of you" = Obs?
  515. BadHorse I have nothing to do with thirty minute ponies. I think I may have been invited by mistake, so I'm just gonna idle.
  516. Listic BadHorse, yes, Obs represents all of 30 min ponies here
  517. elctrnmcn I think, I can see, how that's done
  518. Listic BadHorse: no, you certainly weren't invited by mistake: we wanted to chat about 30 min ponies and writing in general and whatever
  519. Obselescence If the blog you have on tumblr isn't your primary blog
  520. Obselescence you can add multiple members from the sidebar
  521. Obselescence It will be in the tab marked "Members"
  522. Listic Obselescence: oh, so do you recommend making it a non-primary blog? I've made a new primary blog just for that, I guess I was wrong.
  523. Obselescence You cannot add other people to manage a primary blog.
  524. Obselescence So I would not recommend making it a primary blog.
  525. Obselescence Anyhow, I must depart. Hope I was helpful.
  526. elctrnmcn Just what I wanted
  527. elctrnmcn Thank you for the answers
  528. Obselescence Great. Goodbye, then!
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