2014-03-16 11:16:11       DarthGandalf what language is that?
2014-03-16 11:17:15       ok           ok
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2014-03-16 11:18:57       Jobe         turkish
2014-03-16 11:19:04       Jobe         starts off about god and satan
2014-03-16 11:19:11       Jobe         allah ile seytan
2014-03-16 11:19:19       Jobe         google translate FTW
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2014-03-16 13:31:13       GithubPub    [ircv3-specifications] kaniini opened issue #68: Ban Shawn-Smith http://git.io/LyE7WA
2014-03-16 13:31:42       Shawn        huehuehuehue
2014-03-16 13:31:53       jackal       lol
2014-03-16 13:32:14       @kaniini     he thinks i am kidding
2014-03-16 13:35:04       @kaniini     i will simply take the issue to atheme's core group, which will decide that participation in ircv3 is no longer relevant, charybdis/tethys will never see 3.2 and the spec will be dead on arrival
2014-03-16 13:35:13       ok           i think the ticket is a good incentive to keep shawn here
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2014-03-16 13:35:26        *           M2Ys4U waves goodbye to kaniini :)
2014-03-16 13:35:44       SaberUK      bye kaniini
2014-03-16 13:35:57       DarthGandalf charybdis/tethys is not the only IRC software around...
2014-03-16 13:35:59       Aerdan       uhhh
2014-03-16 13:36:21       M2Ys4U       Seriously, we shouldn't be held to ransom over egos.
2014-03-16 13:36:24       @kaniini     DarthGandalf: it's okay, i will use other measures to ensure the spec fails
2014-03-16 13:36:26       SaberUK      ^
2014-03-16 13:36:28       ok           not even the most widely used
2014-03-16 13:36:36       M2Ys4U       This is exactly the sort of behaviour I was talking about the other night
2014-03-16 13:36:51       @kaniini     it's okay
2014-03-16 13:36:58       SaberUK      http://searchirc.com/ircd-versions just sayin'
2014-03-16 13:37:07       @kaniini     i'll take a page out of the efnet playbook
2014-03-16 13:37:08       DarthGandalf kaniini: and you say that Adam makes more drama than you?
2014-03-16 13:37:18       Aerdan       honestly, I'm not terribly thrilled with this 'open tickets without discussing shit on IRC first' thing people seem to be doing lately.
2014-03-16 13:37:22       M2Ys4U       Perhaps it's time for atheme/tehys to be forked and continued without this sort of poisonous attitude.
2014-03-16 13:37:39       @kaniini     perhaps more people need to become like rob levin
2014-03-16 13:37:48       Shawn        Who's rob levin?
2014-03-16 13:37:57       Argure       kaniini: uhm
2014-03-16 13:37:58       Argure       isn't ircv3
2014-03-16 13:37:59       Argure       like
2014-03-16 13:38:04       Argure       an atheme.org activity to begin with?
2014-03-16 13:38:07       Aerdan       Argure: no.
2014-03-16 13:38:08       KindOne      Shawn: Google is your friend
2014-03-16 13:38:26       Argure       Aerdan: ircv3.org says it is
2014-03-16 13:38:27       Argure       ( ≖‿≖)
2014-03-16 13:38:31       SaberUK      Shawn: lilo, former freenode admin, died in 2006
2014-03-16 13:38:57       ok           classy
2014-03-16 13:38:57       Shawn        Well that sucks
2014-03-16 13:39:05       Aerdan       Argure: started out that way, it's developed a bit of a life of its own.
2014-03-16 13:39:15       @kaniini     well, it needs to die
2014-03-16 13:39:53       @kaniini     it will be quite funny, inspircd will implement this thing and nobody will care
2014-03-16 13:40:15       @kaniini     trust me, it will be dead on arrival, no matter how much inspircd parades it
2014-03-16 13:40:33       M2Ys4U       kaniini: Cool story, bro.
2014-03-16 13:40:53       ok           I'd rather have a dead spec than a spec dictated and ransomed by people who don't know when to stop waving their dicks around
2014-03-16 13:41:04       SaberUK      kaniini: i'm fed up of you trying to force people to do things with stupid threats. you've failed at this with threatening to drop inspircd support in atheme before and you can go fuck yourself if you think you are going to succeed at it here.
2014-03-16 13:41:11       SaberUK      put up or shut up
2014-03-16 13:41:26       Attila       what was the last threat?
2014-03-16 13:41:28       Attila       delete the atheme organization
2014-03-16 13:41:29       Attila       ?
2014-03-16 13:41:29       Attila       lol
2014-03-16 13:41:39       @kaniini     i want Shawn out of this thing
2014-03-16 13:41:41       @kaniini     take your dog
2014-03-16 13:41:44       Attila       okay
2014-03-16 13:41:46       M2Ys4U       I move that we move IRCv3 WG away from atheme stewardship
2014-03-16 13:41:46       @kaniini     and send him back to #inspircd
2014-03-16 13:41:48       @kaniini     where it belongs
2014-03-16 13:41:56       DarthGandalf M2Ys4U: +1
2014-03-16 13:42:00       @kaniini     okay
2014-03-16 13:42:01       ok           +1
2014-03-16 13:42:06       @kaniini     i guess i'll tell people like storm
2014-03-16 13:42:09       @kaniini     on efnet
2014-03-16 13:42:11       @kaniini     that you guys are krashed
2014-03-16 13:42:18       M2Ys4U       kaniini: cool story, bro
2014-03-16 13:42:19       @kaniini     and then you guys will get hit with 800gbit
2014-03-16 13:42:22       @kaniini     that wil be hilarious too
2014-03-16 13:42:32       ok           riveting tale
2014-03-16 13:42:58       SaberUK      M2Ys4U: +1
2014-03-16 13:43:26       Aerdan       pssst. this is not how you go about getting him to calm down. not that we should instantly accede to his demands either, but
2014-03-16 13:43:29       @kaniini     please for the love of god move this crap out of atheme if you're going to turn it into the inspircd social club
2014-03-16 13:43:41       Aerdan       kaniini: why don't you outline /why/ you want Shawn out.
2014-03-16 13:43:45       @kaniini     here, i will help
2014-03-16 13:44:01       Argure       Aerdan: well for my port
2014-03-16 13:44:02       @kaniini     Aerdan: because he ruins very reasonable specs like JSON
2014-03-16 13:44:03       M2Ys4U       inb4 kaniini deletes the ircv3 repo
2014-03-16 13:44:03       Argure       s/port/part/
2014-03-16 13:44:07       Argure       the whole json thing a few days ago
2014-03-16 13:44:09       Argure       still pisses me the fuck off
2014-03-16 13:44:12       Argure       and still makes me thing
2014-03-16 13:44:13       @kaniini     ^
2014-03-16 13:44:14       Argure       at least half of you
2014-03-16 13:44:20       Argure       are complete fucking mongs
2014-03-16 13:44:22       @kaniini     ^
2014-03-16 13:44:48       M2Ys4U       Throwing a temper tantrum is not the way to deal with it though.
2014-03-16 13:44:58       @kaniini     i have raised my concerns reasonably
2014-03-16 13:45:01       @kaniini     he has not gotten the hint
2014-03-16 13:45:11       ok           Aerdan: I'm not interested in dealing with people who make these kind of threats at all, let alone be lead by them
2014-03-16 13:45:13       KindOne      M2Ys4U, deleting the repo would be futile. im sure multiple people have copies.
2014-03-16 13:45:14       Aerdan       yes, I am pretty pissed that two different attempts at defining a JSON framing have failed either.
2014-03-16 13:45:26       @kaniini     Aerdan: he intentionally sabotaged them
2014-03-16 13:45:30       M2Ys4U       kaniini: That does not make it ok.
2014-03-16 13:46:01       Attila       he cannot sabotage it, sigh, we are the developers and we make things happen
2014-03-16 13:46:06       Attila       other people just talk and share their views
2014-03-16 13:46:14       Attila       we do what we want at the end of the day
2014-03-16 13:46:21       SaberUK      i don't think that holding a differing opinion is ruining
2014-03-16 13:46:21       @kaniini     which makes this spec worthless then
2014-03-16 13:46:22       Attila       and we will do json the way we want not the way shawn wants
2014-03-16 13:46:24       Attila       end of story
2014-03-16 13:46:26       @kaniini     another great reason to shut it down
2014-03-16 13:46:31       Aerdan       I am /also/ kind of pissed that Shawn has tried to bikeshed other parts of IRCv3 (see versioning of individual caps) when there is, as of yet, no reason to do so.
2014-03-16 13:46:35       @kaniini     so, i think we should just
2014-03-16 13:46:38       @kaniini     shut down this spec
2014-03-16 13:46:41       @kaniini     entirely
2014-03-16 13:46:41       Attila       because you, aji, the znc guys etc all agree then its going to happen
2014-03-16 13:46:43       @kaniini     irc is dead etc
2014-03-16 13:46:49       Argure       irc is dead
2014-03-16 13:46:49       Shawn        Aerdan: I dropped that discussion too after we discussed it
2014-03-16 13:46:50       Argure       all hail xmpp
2014-03-16 13:46:51       Argure       ( ≖‿≖)
2014-03-16 13:46:55       M2Ys4U       kaniini: again, cool story, bro.
2014-03-16 13:47:04       @kaniini     M2Ys4U: if you're just here to troll, go away
2014-03-16 13:47:15       Aerdan       Shawn: after filing an issue over it...
2014-03-16 13:47:27       Shawn        The issue was brought up when you agreed with me .-.
2014-03-16 13:47:36       Shawn        And then others started talking about it and you went the other way.
2014-03-16 13:47:39       @kaniini     Shawn: i am going to ask nicely
2014-03-16 13:47:39       Shawn        I can't fix that
2014-03-16 13:47:45       M2Ys4U       kaniini: No, I'm here to work, it's your damn attitude, trolling and pettiness that's the problem
2014-03-16 13:47:46       @kaniini     Shawn: for you to just stop participating
2014-03-16 13:47:47       Aerdan       I hadn't realised at the time what you were actually angling for.
2014-03-16 13:47:56       Shawn        I see that now, that's my bad
2014-03-16 13:47:58       --           Mode #ircv3 [+o Aerdan] by ChanServ
2014-03-16 13:48:06       Shawn        So I closed the issue
2014-03-16 13:48:33        *           DarthGandalf sighs
2014-03-16 13:48:53       M2Ys4U       kaniini: I'm not the one threatening DoS attacks, to close down the WG, to sabotage the effort
2014-03-16 13:48:55       Attila       this is really unprofessional tbh
2014-03-16 13:48:56       M2Ys4U       that's you.
2014-03-16 13:48:59       --           Mode #ircv3 [+b *[email protected]] by Aerdan
2014-03-16 13:49:01       <--          Aerdan has kicked Shawn (tbh I really would just prefer it if you left. every discussion involving you has been aggravating, and this one's no better. (even if it wasn't instigated by you, for once.))