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- #nv: ~workshop new
- @BB-8-NU: A new workshop session was created
- #nv: ~workshop add Band Liepard
- @BB-8-NU: Band Liepard added
- %Punchshroom: Knock Off / Sucker Punch / U-turn / Trick I presume?
- #nv: !learn liepard, trick
- %lucianvega: play rough gunk shot can be fine
- #nv: :o
- %Punchshroom: idk what else to put on there
- @Eternally: Play Rough could be decent
- @erisia: either that or the lure set with gunk shot / play rough
- #nv: ^
- @erisia: copycat is also funny
- #nv: I like the lure set tbh
- #nv: Tbh Liepard is pretty customizable lol
- @Eternally: yeah, lots to choose from
- @erisia: but you can't exactly build around copycat
- @Eternally: !learn liepard, seed bomb
- @Eternally: thats an option as well
- #nv: Does Seed Bomb crap on Gastro?
- %Punchshroom: 252 Atk Choice Band Liepard Gunk Shot vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Hariyama: 226-266 (52.6 - 62%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
- %Punchshroom: fuk Play Rough then
- #nv: lol
- @erisia: phuc dat bich
- %Punchshroom: 252 Atk Choice Band Liepard Gunk Shot vs. 252 HP / 208+ Def Mega Audino: 192-226 (46.8 - 55.1%) -- 68.4% chance to 2HKO
- %Punchshroom: the dommage is real
- @erisia: now i know you're going to laugh
- @erisia: what about adamant
- %lucianvega: nah
- %lucianvega: its in rly important speed tier
- #nv: 252 Atk Choice Band Liepard Seed Bomb vs. 252 HP / 244+ Def Gastrodon: 372-440 (87.3 - 103.2%) -- 18.8% chance to OHKO
- #nv: Yea its Speed tier is rly nice
- @erisia: with sucker
- #nv: !dt liepard
- %lucianvega: ik but banded sucker punch is rly ricky
- @erisia: you still outspeed timid rotom (jynx sucks)
- %lucianvega: risky*
- %Punchshroom: I'd prefer Sucker Punch if we can put Encore on this
- %Punchshroom: but that'd be standard Liepard at that point :P
- @erisia: ok fine
- #nv: Yea Jolly w/ no Sucker imo
- #nv: Knock, U-turn, then two "lure" moves
- %Punchshroom: Gunk is definitely on there
- %Punchshroom: we don't rly need Play Rough
- @Eternally: Knock/Gunk/Uturn/something
- #nv: ^
- #nv: That lol
- %Punchshroom: Seed Bomb / Trick?
- %Punchshroom: do we need Trick?
- @Eternally: Pursuit seed bomb or trick imo
- %lucianvega: pursuit is great option tbh
- %Punchshroom: I don't think we need Trick
- %Punchshroom: Pursuit is noice
- %Punchshroom: Jynx / Rotom = DED
- %lucianvega: ye
- @Eternally: yeah I like pursuit
- #nv: Pursuit or Seed Bomb is my option
- %lucianvega: can trap something for next teammate
- #nv: Seems like Pursuit is majority tho
- %lucianvega: lets decide on coverage after 2 -3 more mons
- @Eternally: we can decide later anyway
- %lucianvega: but im kinda leading to pursuit mostly
- %lucianvega: ye
- @Eternally: sniped by luciavegan
- @Eternally: *lucianvega
- %lucianvega: ,,
- #nv: lol
- #nv: Ok so what appreciates Pard's luring?
- %Punchshroom: 252 Atk Choice Band Liepard Seed Bomb vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Eviolite Rhydon: 228-272 (64.9 - 77.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
- %lucianvega: i think tauros does
- %Punchshroom: Gunk can lure Yama and MAudino
- %Punchshroom: what mons like those gone?
- %Punchshroom: right off the bat I think of Shiftry
- %Punchshroom: Darkspam y/n?
- @Eternally: Dark spam, gg
- #nv: :P
- #nv: I think Tauros would work lucianvega if we go with Pursuit
- %lucianvega: yeh
- #nv: Since Rotom is a nice Tauros check for most teams lol
- %lucianvega: ye theres nothing rly to benefit audino lure
- %lucianvega: except normal types that cant kill it
- #nv: Ye
- @Delphic: you guys still not got a core?
- #nv: Nah
- #nv: We are thinking what appreciate's Pard's luring
- @Delphic: hm
- %lucianvega: trapping too
- #nv: Actually
- #nv: Rotom appreciates Yama and MDino gone :o
- @Delphic: like, dark spam sounds fun
- @Delphic: yeah true
- #nv: Dark Spam sounds cool too lol
- %lucianvega: yeee
- %lucianvega: scarf rotom could be fine
- @Delphic: and lanturn takes a shit load from knock off from liepard
- #nv: Rotom, Pard, and Tauros is a nice start
- #nv: :o
- %lucianvega: uh
- %lucianvega: id choose rather from rotom or tauros cuz
- %lucianvega: whenever im building a team 3rd pokemon from offensive core should always offer a defensive utility
- #nv: Ah true
- %lucianvega: or any utility in general
- #nv: So Rotom or Tauros?
- %lucianvega: whatever you guys want, i think tauros offers some decent wallbreak power
- %lucianvega: and speed without being locked
- #nv: Work Up Tauros would be a nice win con to pair with Pard too :o
- #nv: The problem with adding Tauros is we would need a serious Fighting check
- %lucianvega: indeed
- %lucianvega: if we add tauros grumpig could be 3rd for only soft fighting check, ice/fire resist
- %lucianvega: and pard traps things for both
- #nv: Hmm I like it
- #nv: mfw only lucian and I lol
- %lucianvega: yea
- %lucianvega: lol
- %lucianvega: where did eternallyveltal go
- #nv: Lag hour for him I think lol
- %lucianvega: ye he has connection issues sometimes
- #nv: We want dual win cons?
- #nv: I.e. Work Up Tauros and CM Grumpig
- %lucianvega: im still thinking of should pard of rotom be cooler
- %lucianvega: tbh i like the idea of scarf rotom
- %lucianvega: but tauros is rly good rn
- #nv: Yea
- %lucianvega: and if we r running physical pard and not special then definitely tauros
- #nv: Tbh we could go either way
- #nv: Rotom is nice and so is Tauros lol
- %Punchshroom: I mean garbodor is classic Liepard partner
- %lucianvega: yeh
- %lucianvega: if we go rotom we could go garb next
- shadestep: hii!
- %lucianvega: but like
- #nv: Hey Shadestep
- %lucianvega: sup shade
- shadestep: whats the team
- marogod: i came for the heat
- #nv: ~workshop team
- @BB-8-NU: Band Liepard
- %lucianvega: team is liepar!
- %Shadestep: o
- %lucianvega: d
- #nv: That's it lol
- %lucianvega: nice team we got so far
- marogod: aight so
- %Shadestep: whats the set
- #nv: Lol Garb, Rotom, and Pard
- camilas: xd
- marogod: is this gonna be some pursuit,knock,gunk stuff
- #nv: Sounds standard af but we are running heat tbh
- %lucianvega: if we go garb rotom and pard
- #nv: Yes MaroGod
- %lucianvega: it would be same looking as xy team
- camilas: oo band liepard
- camilas: that sounds interesting
- @erisia: ~workshop add Rotom
- @BB-8-NU: Rotom added
- #nv: lol lucianvega, that is true :o
- %lucianvega: if you checked archived teams
- @erisia: ~workshop add Garbodor
- %lucianvega: they all got those
- @BB-8-NU: Garbodor added
- basedsexypants: Ayyy!
- #nv: lucianvega, we can just call this a "throwback" team then n_n
- %lucianvega: hi bsp
- %lucianvega: lol
- %Shadestep: grats
- @erisia: grats
- +AssassinRogue: haha
- #nv: Ok so
- #nv: ~workshop team
- @BB-8-NU: Band Liepard / Rotom / Garbodor
- #nv: We want ScarfTom right?
- #nv: Or n?
- %Shadestep: bulky rotom?
- %Shadestep: o
- %lucianvega: indeed
- %lucianvega: scarf
- #nv: Kk
- +Camilas...: scarf y
- +Camilas...: speed control is nice
- #nv: Plus
- %lucianvega: scarf rotom is prly best scarfer in Nu
- #nv: I just realized
- #nv: With Rotom
- #nv: We have VoltTurn n_n
- @erisia: i think a hex set of some kind could be fun with garb
- %lucianvega: yeh and also we got double psychic check
- +MaroGod: only voice
- @erisia: but yeah scarf seems too good to pass up
- +Camilas...: t spikes + hexerino
- +MaroGod: please im better then shade
- %Punchshroom: so are we going Darkspam or Work Up Tauros
- +MaroGod: Dark Spam sounds nice
- %lucianvega: rip both
- %lucianvega: xd
- @erisia: tauros imo
- %lucianvega: i like tauros
- @erisia: dark spam is what i tried before and it failed
- #nv: We are Rotom/Garb atm Punchshroom
- %Shadestep: same
- #nv: lol
- %Shadestep: erisia
- %Shadestep: its horriblo
- @erisia: band pard + tauros + scarf rotom seems good vs offense
- %Shadestep: well not horriblo but
- %lucianvega: ye
- #nv: Yea
- %lucianvega: with these 3
- %Shadestep: not that good
- @erisia: but we need at least some defensive backbone
- %lucianvega: pard garbodor rotom are Very weak to pokemon like rhydon
- %Shadestep: do you guys run wisp on scarf rotom
- %lucianvega: so poli could be nice
- %Shadestep: or am i the only one
- %Shadestep: ;w;
- +Gyro: I do Shadestep
- %lucianvega: naa trick is rly good vs balanced builds
- %Shadestep: lucianvega have u found ur new fetish mon :p
- %lucianvega: but wisp can be nice if Don weakness is big
- %lucianvega: n
- %Shadestep: cradily, weezing, now poliwrath
- @erisia: n we have t-spikes, volt switch / shadow ball / thunderbolt / trick seems optimal for rotom
- %lucianvega: LOL
- +MaroGod: im lost
- +MaroGod: what is it atm
- @erisia: in which case we don't need to run trick on liepard
- #nv: ~workshop team
- @BB-8-NU: Band Liepard / Rotom / Garbodor
- #nv: There ya go MaroGod :)
- +MaroGod: Wrath seems nice
- +MaroGod: if wanting a backbone
- %lucianvega: ye
- @erisia: poliwrath seems like a great partner
- +MaroGod: Or is this going offensive straight out?
- %lucianvega: also checks rot kabutops
- +MaroGod: if so still wrath
- %lucianvega: its offensive
- %lucianvega: team
- @erisia: well we are going offensive but we still need something for rain
- #nv: It's an offense team
- +Gyro: wrath sounds good to me
- #nv: I like Poli
- #nv: ~workshop add Poliwrath
- @BB-8-NU: Poliwrath added
- @erisia: poliwrath + scarf rotom + garb seems like enough for that
- %lucianvega: and now we need to fill a
- @erisia: ~workshop team
- @BB-8-NU: Band Liepard / Rotom / Garbodor / Poliwrath
- %lucianvega: ice/fire check, rocker
- +MaroGod: IceDino?
- @erisia: we were gonna have tauros right
- %lucianvega: hazar control as well imo
- %lucianvega: only spinners tho
- +MaroGod: Kabutops seems to fit the bill on paper there
- %lucianvega: we dont have a malamar check either
- #nv: !ds rapid spin, nu
- @erisia: again with garb i'm tempted to say we don't need a spinner
- #nv: ^
- %Shadestep: we're looking kinda weak to like
- %Shadestep: any scald mon
- +MaroGod: wrath
- %lucianvega: wrath tho
- %Shadestep: oh did we add that
- %lucianvega: we also dont have a
- #nv: Yea we got Wrath
- #nv: lol
- %Shadestep: whoopsie!
- %lucianvega: electric immunity
- #nv: Yea
- %lucianvega: id say rhydon can be nice
- #nv: We need Fire/Ice check
- #nv: And Electric immunity
- +MaroGod: -sigh- lanturn
- @erisia: does offense need an ice/fire switch in?
- %lucianvega: ye
- %lucianvega: its fat offense
- %Shadestep: definitely a fire switchin
- +Gyro: how about
- +Gyro: yama
- +Based Sexy Pants: Shuca Lanturn if real.
- +MaroGod: yama looks good
- %lucianvega: its
- #nv: Double Fighting tho :o
- %lucianvega: double flying weakness
- #nv: ^
- %lucianvega: and our resists r poor
- +MaroGod: true
- +Gyro: huh
- +Gyro: have I missed a man
- %lucianvega: rhydon could be good
- @erisia: what about camerupt!!!!
- #nv: ~workshop team
- @BB-8-NU: Band Liepard / Rotom / Garbodor / Poliwrath
- %Shadestep: ues
- %Shadestep: camel
- +Gyro: oh wrath
- +MaroGod: Camel is iffy but seems doable
- %Shadestep: nah wait
- %Shadestep: no normal resist then
- %lucianvega: camerupt is eh
- %Shadestep: go metal burst rhydon!
- %lucianvega: lol
- %lucianvega: golem!
- %Shadestep: im bein serious :(
- %lucianvega: nah golem sux
- +Based Sexy Pants: ~~Sudowoodo.~~
- @erisia: !dt graveler
- %Shadestep: thanks
- %Shadestep: erisia
- +Gyro: we could go like
- %lucianvega: piloswine
- +Gyro: sub mantine instead of poli
- %lucianvega: since we have rotom and garb for normal check
- +MaroGod: Pilo seems nice overall
- +Gyro: then yama
- @erisia: piloswine sounds good tbh
- %Shadestep: if we go pilo
- %lucianvega: and its an ice check
- %Shadestep: well rotom
- #nv: Tbh we have a Normal immunity just nothing for Kanga rly lol
- %Shadestep: is really shaky
- %Shadestep: since
- @erisia: if we use piloswine
- %lucianvega: also poliwrath is nice rock resist
- %Shadestep: if tauros comes in on a shadow ball
- %Shadestep: it just gets a kill
- @erisia: it should be 252 atk / 220 SpD / 36 spe
- %lucianvega: ye
- %lucianvega: or
- +MaroGod: Solrock if real
- %lucianvega: we can use something cool for last slot
- %lucianvega: to fill weaknesses
- %lucianvega: but definitely another fire check
- %Shadestep: lucianvega
- @erisia: like piloswine's SpD is so low it makes a huge difference
- %Shadestep: what r poliwrath evs
- %lucianvega: um
- %lucianvega: 96 hp
- %lucianvega: 252 spa and rest in speed
- @erisia: you 1v1 AV lanturn, max scald does like 40
- #nv: 96 HP / 252 SpA / 160 Spe
- %lucianvega: also
- %lucianvega: we r rly weak to vivillon
- %lucianvega: so piloswine is good option
- %lucianvega: over Don
- +MaroGod: we could go
- #nv: Ok Pilo it is then
- +MaroGod: av magmortar
- @erisia: yeah again SpD helps there
- +MaroGod: for the ice/fire check
- #nv: ~workshop add Piloswine
- @BB-8-NU: Piloswine added
- +MaroGod: and an answer to viv
- +Gyro: hmm normal resist
- %Shadestep: no
- %Shadestep: lets go rhydon
- %Shadestep: we get
- +Gyro: seems really needed
- %Shadestep: blown away by pyroar
- %Shadestep: as is
- %lucianvega: ye
- %lucianvega: for last we need a fire check
- +Gyro: don sounds good
- %lucianvega: for sure
- %lucianvega: is there any fire check+ spinner in 1?
- +Gyro: kabu
- %Shadestep: kabutops i guess
- +MaroGod: Staryu
- %Shadestep: or av hitmonchan
- %lucianvega: hm
- +MaroGod: if real
- %lucianvega: !ds rapid spin,nu,all
- %Shadestep: but theyre both shaky as fk
- %lucianvega: !ds rapid spin,pu,all
- @erisia: 252 SpA Life Orb Pyroar Fire Blast vs. 220 HP / 0 SpD Eviolite Thick Fat Piloswine: 211-250 (53.2 - 63.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
- %lucianvega: um
- #nv: ~workshop remove Piloswine
- @BB-8-NU: Piloswine removed
- #nv: ~workshop team
- @BB-8-NU: Band Liepard / Rotom / Garbodor / Poliwrath
- +MaroGod: AV Mag just seems like a nice fit
- @erisia: 252 SpA Life Orb Pyroar Fire Blast vs. 0 HP / 220 SpD Eviolite Thick Fat Piloswine: 156-187 (45.7 - 54.8%) -- 52.7% chance to 2HKO
- +Gyro: shall we just go don instead of pilo
- @erisia: yeah i guess swine doesn't really work
- +MaroGod: for that fire/ice check,Viv counter and pyroar not busting through
- +Gyro: gives us more freedom in the last slot
- %lucianvega: whats an ice check and spinner in 1?
- %lucianvega: for last
- %lucianvega: cryo?
- @erisia: !dt cryogonal
- %lucianvega: also checks liligant
- %lucianvega: and
- %lucianvega: vivillon
- +MaroGod: cryo looks alright
- @erisia: yeah cryo could work
- %lucianvega: and can lure aggon with hp ground
- @erisia: just need a fire switchin
- #nv: So Don is our 5th mon?
- %lucianvega: ye well
- %lucianvega: we kinda have a
- @erisia: and a volt switch immune
- %lucianvega: poliwrath and rhydon for checks of fire
- +MaroGod: Cryo+Rhydon
- %lucianvega: hp grass is gonna be annoying but idk
- +MaroGod: seems nice for the last slots
- %lucianvega: ye
- %lucianvega: or be real and go AV torkoal
- +MaroGod: still get destroyed by LO Pyroar
- @erisia: what about
- +MaroGod: bar wrath i guess
- @erisia: !dt gabite
- %Shadestep: yea lol
- %lucianvega: na
- @erisia: :(
- %lucianvega: that dies to hyper voice
- +MaroGod: !dt lampent
- +MaroGod: if real
- %lucianvega: lol
- %lucianvega: not an ice check tho
- @erisia: so we need SR that resists fire and doesn't drop to hp grass
- +MaroGod: Sure it is
- +MaroGod: just SpD it
- @erisia: regirock?
- +MaroGod: ez
- %lucianvega: if we put regi then
- %lucianvega: electric types r rly annoying
- +MaroGod: Regirock looks nice actually
- +MaroGod: annoying
- +MaroGod: but
- +Based Sexy Pants: EQ Regi?
- +MaroGod: regi still is nice
- #nv: !ds ground type, nu
- %Shadestep: then we dont have a volt immunity
- +MaroGod: !dt seaking
- %lucianvega: lol
- +Gyro: gastro oo
- +MaroGod: AV seaking
- %Shadestep: then we dont have rocks
- %Shadestep: -
- @erisia: well gastro gets wrecked by hp grass too
- +MaroGod: wanted something cool last slot
- +Gyro: -
- +Gyro: cri.
- @erisia: and no rocks lol
- %Shadestep: ues
- #nv: !dt seismitoad
- %lucianvega: hmm
- #nv: Come back pls
- %Shadestep: we could just pull a king uu
- #nv: Lol Shadestep
- %lucianvega: i would give everything to bring Toad back
- @erisia: ~workshop team
- @BB-8-NU: Band Liepard / Rotom / Garbodor / Poliwrath
- +Gyro: why are we not just going don?
- %lucianvega: rindo golem
- @erisia: !ds volt absorb
- @erisia: ...
- %lucianvega: LOL
- +Based Sexy Pants: I'm seeing a lot of Pika.
- %lucianvega: i mean
- %Shadestep: idk Gyro
- %lucianvega: pretty sure poliwrath takes 2 hyper voices
- %lucianvega: and don takes hp grass
- +MaroGod: nv team so far please
- %Shadestep: ~workshop team
- @BB-8-NU: Band Liepard / Rotom / Garbodor / Poliwrath
- @erisia: how does don take hp grass
- +MaroGod: we can always opt
- %lucianvega: idk does like million
- +MaroGod: to rid garb or tom
- +MaroGod: tbh
- %lucianvega: but still revenges back
- +MaroGod: if we need another slot
- +Gyro: I think it lives yeah
- +MaroGod: same for wrath
- +Gyro: a blast and hp grass
- %lucianvega: i think wrath is fine
- %lucianvega: since it checks Dons and steelies
- @eternally: whats the team so far
- %lucianvega: that team is weak to
- @erisia: yeah i like this core as it is
- #nv: ~workshop team
- @BB-8-NU: Band Liepard / Rotom / Garbodor / Poliwrath
- #nv: ^Eternally
- %lucianvega: we could go like
- @eternally: thnx
- %lucianvega: gastropod over wrath and AV chan
- %lucianvega: but naa
- @erisia: i can see that working tbh
- %lucianvega: ik but
- %Shadestep: same
- %lucianvega: double X4 weakness
- @erisia: then we need rocks
- %lucianvega: is pretty annoying
- +Gyro: and still no normal resist
- %lucianvega: id say we can make 2 versions of team
- @erisia: what double 4x weakness
- %lucianvega: this one so far is nice
- @erisia: i guess it's weak to freeze dry too
- %lucianvega: yea
- #nv: 2 versions is fine lucianvega lol
- #nv: :o
- %lucianvega: yeah i always do that
- @erisia: i think gastro + av chan + miltank or something is good
- %lucianvega: this one can work bcz it softly checks nearly every threat
- #nv: Yea
- +MaroGod: need normal resist
- %lucianvega: pyroar is only threat i can see tbh
- +MaroGod: Miltank looks nice somewhere
- +MaroGod: but a normal resist just seems very wanted right now
- %lucianvega: i mean
- %lucianvega: rotom+garbodor
- %lucianvega: is a decent normal check for offense
- +Gyro: kanga shits on them but eh
- #nv: That deters most of them lol
- %lucianvega: ik
- %lucianvega: 3rd one could be soft
- +MaroGod: so what changes have happened
- +MaroGod: since my attention drifted
- @erisia: ~workshop remove Poliwrath
- @BB-8-NU: Poliwrath removed
- %lucianvega: id recommend keeping 1st version of team and then making new
- @erisia: ~workshop add Gastrodon
- @BB-8-NU: Gastrodon added
- +Gyro: oo
- @erisia: ~workshop add AV Hitmonchan
- @BB-8-NU: AV Hitmonchan added
- +Gyro: east or riot
- @erisia: ~workshop team
- @BB-8-NU: Band Liepard / Rotom / Garbodor / Gastrodon / AV Hitmonchan
- %lucianvega: camerupt for last
- %lucianvega: oops nvm
- @erisia: n
- %lucianvega: mb
- +Gyro: specs rocks
- %lucianvega: LOL
- +Gyro: :[
- %lucianvega: !ds stealth rock,nu,all
- %lucianvega: hm
- +Gyro: ooo lead aurorus
- %lucianvega: thats what i thought
- @erisia: yeahhhhhhh
- +MaroGod: seems nice
- +MaroGod: i like it
- +Gyro: or mes sounds good too
- %lucianvega: its also a decent flying check
- +Gyro: one of those two imo
- %lucianvega: id say aurorus
- %lucianvega: because
- +Gyro: and normal resist too
- @erisia: ice resist from aurorus is nice
- %lucianvega: snow warning is rly nice for chan
- #nv: I liek Rorus
- #nv: :o
- %lucianvega: and ice resist is great
- +Gyro: :D
- @erisia: ~workshop add Lead Aurorus
- @BB-8-NU: Lead Aurorus added
- %lucianvega: but
- %lucianvega: we are forced to run
- %lucianvega: 208 HP hitmonchan kinda
- #nv: Ok so this is the first version lol
- @erisia: that's fine the rest of the team is plenty fast
- +Gyro: want me to test for us nv? once someone pastebins it
- @erisia: what does 208HP survive
- %lucianvega: wasnt first version with wrath?
- %lucianvega: we can keep both since they r fine
- #nv: Sure Gyro :)
- %Shadestep: sorry i went away for a sec
- #nv: Oh right lucianvega lol
- %Shadestep: ~workshop team
- @BB-8-NU: Band Liepard / Rotom / Garbodor / Gastrodon / AV Hitmonchan / Lead Aurorus
- %Shadestep: oh thats new
- %lucianvega: wait im pretty sure i have them in teambuilder
- +Gyro: shall I build it or is someone already?
- %lucianvega: ill make sets for both teams just tell me how much sped you want for chan
- @erisia: i'm not
- %Shadestep: i have it
- %Shadestep: almsot ready
- +Gyro: ok cool Shadestep
- #nv: Wait are we Toxic Plate Garb or Rocky Helmet w/ Focus Blast? :o
- %Shadestep: what gastro evs
- %lucianvega: helmet for sure
- %lucianvega: defensive garb, team is weak to fighting types otherwise a lot
- #nv: Kk
- @erisia: rocky helmet with seed bomb imo
- #nv: Don't we want FB for Aggron tho erisia?
- %lucianvega: hm on first team id say seed bomb is cool since we have 2 aggron cheks
- %Shadestep: hey
- %Shadestep: whats the lead aurorus set
- #nv: Although ig we have Gastro for Aggron
- +MaroGod: someone tag when doing something next
- %lucianvega: rocks blizard freeze dry
- %lucianvega: earth power
- +MaroGod: when doing another team sorry
- %lucianvega: earth power or stone miss rather
- +Gyro: rock tomb usually
- +Gyro: or rocks slide w/e
- @erisia: it's up to you but no grass move anywhere strikes me as odd
- %lucianvega: stone edge since we r a bit weaker to fire types
- %Shadestep: timid?
- %lucianvega: modest
- @erisia: if we're seed bomb liepard then sure focus blast on garb
- +Gyro: timid usually
- %lucianvega: timid wont help much
- %lucianvega: and modest gives more power to team
- %lucianvega: since there are no much wallbreakers
- #nv: I think we are Pursuit Pard erisia
- %lucianvega: ye
- %Shadestep: http://pastebin.com/CTtT8sxY
- #nv: So we could go with Seed Bomb
- %Shadestep: this should be it!
- @erisia: then imo seed bomb on garb, we have gastrodon for aggron
- %lucianvega: not copycat on band set
- #nv: Shadestep, those EVs on Chan tho
- #nv: :o
- %lucianvega: LOL
- %Shadestep: uh
- %Shadestep: huh
- @erisia: ;lol
- %Shadestep: i dont see the problem.
- @erisia: 32 HP / 132 Spe
- @erisia: nice spread
- Eternally lol: standard
- %Shadestep: yea
- %Shadestep: thats tandard?
- %Shadestep: idk what ur talking about lol.
- %Shadestep: jk prnak
- %Shadestep: make it 124 hp max atk 132 speed
- %lucianvega: um
- %Shadestep: adamant
- %lucianvega: whats second team
- %lucianvega: malamar check
- %lucianvega: put signal beam on rotom
- %Shadestep: second
- %lucianvega: over trick
- %Shadestep: team
- @Eternally: malamar check?
- %Shadestep: ?
- @Eternally: whats that
- #nv: ^
- +MaroGod: banded turn par
- +MaroGod: pard
- @erisia: ram alamnab
- +MaroGod: ez
- +Gyro: so what changes are we making to the pastebin?
- %lucianvega: http://pastebin.com/CktPEV3e
- %lucianvega: this is first pastebin
- +Gyro: shall I test?
- %Shadestep: whoa
- %Shadestep: they updated the mega animation
- #nv: You can test both Gyro :)
- +Gyro: http://play.pokemonshowdown.com/battle-nususpecttest-389407371
- %lucianvega: put clear smog on gastrodon for last slot for sure
- +Gyro: ruh roh
- +Gyro: im in already
- %lucianvega: id even opt for haze garbodor
- %lucianvega: since its not bad at all
- @erisia: yeah
- @erisia: i'd vouch for that
- @erisia: both team variants look good tbh
- %lucianvega: i used it once and it was pretty good since everyone thinks they can setup vs it
- @erisia: get in with the anti-chicken-pass crowd
- #nv: Wait Shadestep
- #nv: Why 32 EVs on Lead Rorus?
- #nv: Atk*
- %lucianvega: its a standard spread iirc
- +Gyro: yeah
- %lucianvega: not sure
- %Shadestep: i too it from the analysis
- @erisia: helps a ko with rock tomb i assume
- +Gyro: for rock tomb
- %lucianvega: yeh
- #nv: Oh ok
- #nv: Just making sure before I "officialize" the pb so I can post in the Workshop thread :o
- %lucianvega: if only rhydon didnt have x4 grass weakness would be lord
- @Eternally: lol lucianvega
- %lucianvega: ,
- @erisia: it lets you 2hko av magmortar and pyroar cleanly
- %Shadestep: you all should like my reqs post
- %Shadestep: http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/nu-stage-14-alt-identification-thread.3575354/#post-6864117
- %Shadestep: tyvm
- %lucianvega: ah
- @Eternally: nice you gottem already
- %Punchshroom: the Rock Tomb 2HKOes Pyroar after Gail iirc
- %Punchshroom: *hail
- +Based Sexy Pants: I did Shadestep.
- +Based Sexy Pants: :^)
- %Shadestep: thank.
- %Shadestep: and yea Eternally
- %Shadestep: shoutout kangaspikes!
- @Eternally: !
- @erisia: shadestep is such a tryhard fml
- %Shadestep: says the smogbot
- #nv: Ok so the two versions of the team looks awesome :o
- @erisia: beep boop
- %lucianvega: can u give me the pastebin once more so i check if theres any weakness we can fix
- @erisia: battle one team vs another imo
- %lucianvega: with moveset
- %Shadestep: no go away lucianvega
- %lucianvega: come on come on
- +Based Sexy Pants: Lol.
- #nv: http://pastebin.com/CktPEV3e 1st
- #nv: http://pastebin.com/8wiMwihD 2nd
- %lucianvega: in case we r weak to minor things, coverage moves r pretty important
- %lucianvega: tnx
- #nv: Np
- +Gyro: searching with 2nd
- %lucianvega: erisia r up for haze garbodor?
- +Gyro: http://play.pokemonshowdown.com/battle-nususpecttest-389409402
- @erisia: sure
- #nv: lucianvega, make sure to post the updated ones :P
- #nv: Then I will end the workshop
- %lucianvega: ye dw
- +Gyro: what do we have for lapras
- +Gyro: lol
- %lucianvega: cryo
- +Gyro: huh
- +Gyro: I don't have cryo
- %lucianvega: just dodge hydro
- %lucianvega: oh rišp
- %lucianvega: rip*
- #nv: Tbh it is Lapras
- %lucianvega: chan and offensive pressure
- @Eternally: when the counter gets frozen
- @erisia: what even checks lapras tbh
- #nv: ^
- @erisia: !learn lapras, stone edge
- %Shadestep: av muk
- +MaroGod: waterfall lapras
- +MaroGod: lgi
- %Shadestep: it cheks everything
- @erisia: rip
- +MaroGod: !learn lapras, iron tail
- @Eternally: Walrein
- +Gyro: why are we not toxic
- +Gyro: sigh
- %Shadestep: we are
- %Shadestep: we should
- +Gyro: we're clear smog
- %Shadestep: -
- %Shadestep: who changed
- %lucianvega: clear smog is best option ;/
- %Shadestep: doesnt show here
- @Eternally: [22:04] %lucianvega: put clear smog on gastrodon for last slot for sure
- %lucianvega: we have toxic spikes for toxic and clear smog gives us best matchup vs
- @Eternally: -
- %Shadestep: -------------
- %Shadestep: r u srs vega
- %Shadestep: omg
- %lucianvega: rott
- %Shadestep: i hae u
- +Gyro: huh
- %Shadestep: hate
- @Eternally: lucia you cost us this game
- %Shadestep: yea
- %Shadestep: thanks lucianvega
- %Shadestep: lucianvega more like
- %Shadestep: lucianvegan
- @Eternally: -
- %lucianvega: ,
- %lucianvega: in order to deal with setup sweepers like Rott
- %lucianvega: theres no other way
- @erisia: !learn gastrodon, frenzy plant
- %lucianvega: whats your answer to CM psychics with signal beam if not clear smog gastro as well
- @Eternally: dodging signal beam
- %lucianvega: hi user : Eternally
- @Eternally: hello
- +Based Sexy Pants: Lol.
- +Gyro: scarf lapras
- +Gyro: </3
- %Shadestep: no
- %Shadestep: 'we're 221 speed
- +Gyro: oh we're slow af
- %Shadestep: arent we
- +Gyro: 216
- @Eternally: y, enough for aurorus I think
- @Eternally: who knew lapras would 6-0
- +Gyro: if we were offensive chan
- +Gyro: we'd be fine
- %lucianvega: we cant afford that
- +Gyro: yh
- %lucianvega: ;/
- +Gyro: but we need to counter all those lapras' on ladder
- +MaroGod: there are no counters
- +Based Sexy Pants: Lol.
- +MaroGod: its too good
- %lucianvega: ye, + youll see lapras 1/100 games
- %lucianvega: and new players run AV set anyway
- #nv: Any last minute changes before we close?
- #nv: :o
- #nv: (I have the updated pb's from lucianvega already but just double checking)
- #nv: Guess not
- #nv: Thanks guys!
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