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  1. #nv: ~workshop new
  2. @BB-8-NU: A new workshop session was created
  3. #nv: ~workshop add Band Liepard
  4. @BB-8-NU: Band Liepard added
  5. %Punchshroom: Knock Off / Sucker Punch / U-turn / Trick I presume?
  6. #nv: !learn liepard, trick
  7. %lucianvega: play rough gunk shot can be fine
  8. #nv: :o
  9. %Punchshroom: idk what else to put on there
  10. @Eternally: Play Rough could be decent
  11. @erisia: either that or the lure set with gunk shot / play rough
  12. #nv: ^
  13. @erisia: copycat is also funny
  14. #nv: I like the lure set tbh
  15. #nv: Tbh Liepard is pretty customizable lol
  16. @Eternally: yeah, lots to choose from
  17. @erisia: but you can't exactly build around copycat
  18. @Eternally: !learn liepard, seed bomb
  19. @Eternally: thats an option as well
  20. #nv: Does Seed Bomb crap on Gastro?
  21. %Punchshroom: 252 Atk Choice Band Liepard Gunk Shot vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Hariyama: 226-266 (52.6 - 62%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
  22. %Punchshroom: fuk Play Rough then
  23. #nv: lol
  24. @erisia: phuc dat bich
  25. %Punchshroom: 252 Atk Choice Band Liepard Gunk Shot vs. 252 HP / 208+ Def Mega Audino: 192-226 (46.8 - 55.1%) -- 68.4% chance to 2HKO
  26. %Punchshroom: the dommage is real
  27. @erisia: now i know you're going to laugh
  28. @erisia: what about adamant
  29. %lucianvega: nah
  30. %lucianvega: its in rly important speed tier
  31. #nv: 252 Atk Choice Band Liepard Seed Bomb vs. 252 HP / 244+ Def Gastrodon: 372-440 (87.3 - 103.2%) -- 18.8% chance to OHKO
  32. #nv: Yea its Speed tier is rly nice
  33. @erisia: with sucker
  34. #nv: !dt liepard
  35. %lucianvega: ik but banded sucker punch is rly ricky
  36. @erisia: you still outspeed timid rotom (jynx sucks)
  37. %lucianvega: risky*
  38. %Punchshroom: I'd prefer Sucker Punch if we can put Encore on this
  39. %Punchshroom: but that'd be standard Liepard at that point :P
  40. @erisia: ok fine
  41. #nv: Yea Jolly w/ no Sucker imo
  42. #nv: Knock, U-turn, then two "lure" moves
  43. %Punchshroom: Gunk is definitely on there
  44. %Punchshroom: we don't rly need Play Rough
  45. @Eternally: Knock/Gunk/Uturn/something
  46. #nv: ^
  47. #nv: That lol
  48. %Punchshroom: Seed Bomb / Trick?
  49. %Punchshroom: do we need Trick?
  50. @Eternally: Pursuit seed bomb or trick imo
  51. %lucianvega: pursuit is great option tbh
  52. %Punchshroom: I don't think we need Trick
  53. %Punchshroom: Pursuit is noice
  54. %Punchshroom: Jynx / Rotom = DED
  55. %lucianvega: ye
  56. @Eternally: yeah I like pursuit
  57. #nv: Pursuit or Seed Bomb is my option
  58. %lucianvega: can trap something for next teammate
  59. #nv: Seems like Pursuit is majority tho
  60. %lucianvega: lets decide on coverage after 2 -3 more mons
  61. @Eternally: we can decide later anyway
  62. %lucianvega: but im kinda leading to pursuit mostly
  63. %lucianvega: ye
  64. @Eternally: sniped by luciavegan
  65. @Eternally: *lucianvega
  66. %lucianvega: ,,
  67. #nv: lol
  68. #nv: Ok so what appreciates Pard's luring?
  69. %Punchshroom: 252 Atk Choice Band Liepard Seed Bomb vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Eviolite Rhydon: 228-272 (64.9 - 77.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
  70. %lucianvega: i think tauros does
  71. %Punchshroom: Gunk can lure Yama and MAudino
  72. %Punchshroom: what mons like those gone?
  73. %Punchshroom: right off the bat I think of Shiftry
  74. %Punchshroom: Darkspam y/n?
  75. @Eternally: Dark spam, gg
  76. #nv: :P
  77. #nv: I think Tauros would work lucianvega if we go with Pursuit
  78. %lucianvega: yeh
  79. #nv: Since Rotom is a nice Tauros check for most teams lol
  80. %lucianvega: ye theres nothing rly to benefit audino lure
  81. %lucianvega: except normal types that cant kill it
  82. #nv: Ye
  83. @Delphic: you guys still not got a core?
  84. #nv: Nah
  85. #nv: We are thinking what appreciate's Pard's luring
  86. @Delphic: hm
  87. %lucianvega: trapping too
  88. #nv: Actually
  89. #nv: Rotom appreciates Yama and MDino gone :o
  90. @Delphic: like, dark spam sounds fun
  91. @Delphic: yeah true
  92. #nv: Dark Spam sounds cool too lol
  93. %lucianvega: yeee
  94. %lucianvega: scarf rotom could be fine
  95. @Delphic: and lanturn takes a shit load from knock off from liepard
  96. #nv: Rotom, Pard, and Tauros is a nice start
  97. #nv: :o
  98. %lucianvega: uh
  99. %lucianvega: id choose rather from rotom or tauros cuz
  100. %lucianvega: whenever im building a team 3rd pokemon from offensive core should always offer a defensive utility
  101. #nv: Ah true
  102. %lucianvega: or any utility in general
  103. #nv: So Rotom or Tauros?
  104. %lucianvega: whatever you guys want, i think tauros offers some decent wallbreak power
  105. %lucianvega: and speed without being locked
  106. #nv: Work Up Tauros would be a nice win con to pair with Pard too :o
  107. #nv: The problem with adding Tauros is we would need a serious Fighting check
  108. %lucianvega: indeed
  109. %lucianvega: if we add tauros grumpig could be 3rd for only soft fighting check, ice/fire resist
  110. %lucianvega: and pard traps things for both
  111. #nv: Hmm I like it
  112. #nv: mfw only lucian and I lol
  113. %lucianvega: yea
  114. %lucianvega: lol
  115. %lucianvega: where did eternallyveltal go
  116. #nv: Lag hour for him I think lol
  117. %lucianvega: ye he has connection issues sometimes
  118. #nv: We want dual win cons?
  119. #nv: I.e. Work Up Tauros and CM Grumpig
  120. %lucianvega: im still thinking of should pard of rotom be cooler
  121. %lucianvega: tbh i like the idea of scarf rotom
  122. %lucianvega: but tauros is rly good rn
  123. #nv: Yea
  124. %lucianvega: and if we r running physical pard and not special then definitely tauros
  125. #nv: Tbh we could go either way
  126. #nv: Rotom is nice and so is Tauros lol
  127. %Punchshroom: I mean garbodor is classic Liepard partner
  128. %lucianvega: yeh
  129. %lucianvega: if we go rotom we could go garb next
  130. shadestep: hii!
  131. %lucianvega: but like
  132. #nv: Hey Shadestep
  133. %lucianvega: sup shade
  134. shadestep: whats the team
  135. marogod: i came for the heat
  136. #nv: ~workshop team
  137. @BB-8-NU: Band Liepard
  138. %lucianvega: team is liepar!
  139. %Shadestep: o
  140. %lucianvega: d
  141. #nv: That's it lol
  142. %lucianvega: nice team we got so far
  143. marogod: aight so
  144. %Shadestep: whats the set
  145. #nv: Lol Garb, Rotom, and Pard
  146. camilas: xd
  147. marogod: is this gonna be some pursuit,knock,gunk stuff
  148. #nv: Sounds standard af but we are running heat tbh
  149. %lucianvega: if we go garb rotom and pard
  150. #nv: Yes MaroGod
  151. %lucianvega: it would be same looking as xy team
  152. camilas: oo band liepard
  153. camilas: that sounds interesting
  154. @erisia: ~workshop add Rotom
  155. @BB-8-NU: Rotom added
  156. #nv: lol lucianvega, that is true :o
  157. %lucianvega: if you checked archived teams
  158. @erisia: ~workshop add Garbodor
  159. %lucianvega: they all got those
  160. @BB-8-NU: Garbodor added
  161. basedsexypants: Ayyy!
  162. #nv: lucianvega, we can just call this a "throwback" team then n_n
  163. %lucianvega: hi bsp
  164. %lucianvega: lol
  165. %Shadestep: grats
  166. @erisia: grats
  167. +AssassinRogue: haha
  168. #nv: Ok so
  169. #nv: ~workshop team
  170. @BB-8-NU: Band Liepard / Rotom / Garbodor
  171. #nv: We want ScarfTom right?
  172. #nv: Or n?
  173. %Shadestep: bulky rotom?
  174. %Shadestep: o
  175. %lucianvega: indeed
  176. %lucianvega: scarf
  177. #nv: Kk
  178. +Camilas...: scarf y
  179. +Camilas...: speed control is nice
  180. #nv: Plus
  181. %lucianvega: scarf rotom is prly best scarfer in Nu
  182. #nv: I just realized
  183. #nv: With Rotom
  184. #nv: We have VoltTurn n_n
  185. @erisia: i think a hex set of some kind could be fun with garb
  186. %lucianvega: yeh and also we got double psychic check
  187. +MaroGod: only voice
  188. @erisia: but yeah scarf seems too good to pass up
  189. +Camilas...: t spikes + hexerino
  190. +MaroGod: please im better then shade
  191. %Punchshroom: so are we going Darkspam or Work Up Tauros
  192. +MaroGod: Dark Spam sounds nice
  193. %lucianvega: rip both
  194. %lucianvega: xd
  195. @erisia: tauros imo
  196. %lucianvega: i like tauros
  197. @erisia: dark spam is what i tried before and it failed
  198. #nv: We are Rotom/Garb atm Punchshroom
  199. %Shadestep: same
  200. #nv: lol
  201. %Shadestep: erisia
  202. %Shadestep: its horriblo
  203. @erisia: band pard + tauros + scarf rotom seems good vs offense
  204. %Shadestep: well not horriblo but
  205. %lucianvega: ye
  206. #nv: Yea
  207. %lucianvega: with these 3
  208. %Shadestep: not that good
  209. @erisia: but we need at least some defensive backbone
  210. %lucianvega: pard garbodor rotom are Very weak to pokemon like rhydon
  211. %Shadestep: do you guys run wisp on scarf rotom
  212. %lucianvega: so poli could be nice
  213. %Shadestep: or am i the only one
  214. %Shadestep: ;w;
  215. +Gyro: I do Shadestep
  216. %lucianvega: naa trick is rly good vs balanced builds
  217. %Shadestep: lucianvega have u found ur new fetish mon :p
  218. %lucianvega: but wisp can be nice if Don weakness is big
  219. %lucianvega: n
  220. %Shadestep: cradily, weezing, now poliwrath
  221. @erisia: n we have t-spikes, volt switch / shadow ball / thunderbolt / trick seems optimal for rotom
  222. %lucianvega: LOL
  223. +MaroGod: im lost
  224. +MaroGod: what is it atm
  225. @erisia: in which case we don't need to run trick on liepard
  226. #nv: ~workshop team
  227. @BB-8-NU: Band Liepard / Rotom / Garbodor
  228. #nv: There ya go MaroGod :)
  229. +MaroGod: Wrath seems nice
  230. +MaroGod: if wanting a backbone
  231. %lucianvega: ye
  232. @erisia: poliwrath seems like a great partner
  233. +MaroGod: Or is this going offensive straight out?
  234. %lucianvega: also checks rot kabutops
  235. +MaroGod: if so still wrath
  236. %lucianvega: its offensive
  237. %lucianvega: team
  238. @erisia: well we are going offensive but we still need something for rain
  239. #nv: It's an offense team
  240. +Gyro: wrath sounds good to me
  241. #nv: I like Poli
  242. #nv: ~workshop add Poliwrath
  243. @BB-8-NU: Poliwrath added
  244. @erisia: poliwrath + scarf rotom + garb seems like enough for that
  245. %lucianvega: and now we need to fill a
  246. @erisia: ~workshop team
  247. @BB-8-NU: Band Liepard / Rotom / Garbodor / Poliwrath
  248. %lucianvega: ice/fire check, rocker
  249. +MaroGod: IceDino?
  250. @erisia: we were gonna have tauros right
  251. %lucianvega: hazar control as well imo
  252. %lucianvega: only spinners tho
  253. +MaroGod: Kabutops seems to fit the bill on paper there
  254. %lucianvega: we dont have a malamar check either
  255. #nv: !ds rapid spin, nu
  256. @erisia: again with garb i'm tempted to say we don't need a spinner
  257. #nv: ^
  258. %Shadestep: we're looking kinda weak to like
  259. %Shadestep: any scald mon
  260. +MaroGod: wrath
  261. %lucianvega: wrath tho
  262. %Shadestep: oh did we add that
  263. %lucianvega: we also dont have a
  264. #nv: Yea we got Wrath
  265. #nv: lol
  266. %Shadestep: whoopsie!
  267. %lucianvega: electric immunity
  268. #nv: Yea
  269. %lucianvega: id say rhydon can be nice
  270. #nv: We need Fire/Ice check
  271. #nv: And Electric immunity
  272. +MaroGod: -sigh- lanturn
  273. @erisia: does offense need an ice/fire switch in?
  274. %lucianvega: ye
  275. %lucianvega: its fat offense
  276. %Shadestep: definitely a fire switchin
  277. +Gyro: how about
  278. +Gyro: yama
  279. +Based Sexy Pants: Shuca Lanturn if real.
  280. +MaroGod: yama looks good
  281. %lucianvega: its
  282. #nv: Double Fighting tho :o
  283. %lucianvega: double flying weakness
  284. #nv: ^
  285. %lucianvega: and our resists r poor
  286. +MaroGod: true
  287. +Gyro: huh
  288. +Gyro: have I missed a man
  289. %lucianvega: rhydon could be good
  290. @erisia: what about camerupt!!!!
  291. #nv: ~workshop team
  292. @BB-8-NU: Band Liepard / Rotom / Garbodor / Poliwrath
  293. %Shadestep: ues
  294. %Shadestep: camel
  295. +Gyro: oh wrath
  296. +MaroGod: Camel is iffy but seems doable
  297. %Shadestep: nah wait
  298. %Shadestep: no normal resist then
  299. %lucianvega: camerupt is eh
  300. %Shadestep: go metal burst rhydon!
  301. %lucianvega: lol
  302. %lucianvega: golem!
  303. %Shadestep: im bein serious :(
  304. %lucianvega: nah golem sux
  305. +Based Sexy Pants: ~~Sudowoodo.~~
  306. @erisia: !dt graveler
  307. %Shadestep: thanks
  308. %Shadestep: erisia
  309. +Gyro: we could go like
  310. %lucianvega: piloswine
  311. +Gyro: sub mantine instead of poli
  312. %lucianvega: since we have rotom and garb for normal check
  313. +MaroGod: Pilo seems nice overall
  314. +Gyro: then yama
  315. @erisia: piloswine sounds good tbh
  316. %Shadestep: if we go pilo
  317. %lucianvega: and its an ice check
  318. %Shadestep: well rotom
  319. #nv: Tbh we have a Normal immunity just nothing for Kanga rly lol
  320. %Shadestep: is really shaky
  321. %Shadestep: since
  322. @erisia: if we use piloswine
  323. %lucianvega: also poliwrath is nice rock resist
  324. %Shadestep: if tauros comes in on a shadow ball
  325. %Shadestep: it just gets a kill
  326. @erisia: it should be 252 atk / 220 SpD / 36 spe
  327. %lucianvega: ye
  328. %lucianvega: or
  329. +MaroGod: Solrock if real
  330. %lucianvega: we can use something cool for last slot
  331. %lucianvega: to fill weaknesses
  332. %lucianvega: but definitely another fire check
  333. %Shadestep: lucianvega
  334. @erisia: like piloswine's SpD is so low it makes a huge difference
  335. %Shadestep: what r poliwrath evs
  336. %lucianvega: um
  337. %lucianvega: 96 hp
  338. %lucianvega: 252 spa and rest in speed
  339. @erisia: you 1v1 AV lanturn, max scald does like 40
  340. #nv: 96 HP / 252 SpA / 160 Spe
  341. %lucianvega: also
  342. %lucianvega: we r rly weak to vivillon
  343. %lucianvega: so piloswine is good option
  344. %lucianvega: over Don
  345. +MaroGod: we could go
  346. #nv: Ok Pilo it is then
  347. +MaroGod: av magmortar
  348. @erisia: yeah again SpD helps there
  349. +MaroGod: for the ice/fire check
  350. #nv: ~workshop add Piloswine
  351. @BB-8-NU: Piloswine added
  352. +MaroGod: and an answer to viv
  353. +Gyro: hmm normal resist
  354. %Shadestep: no
  355. %Shadestep: lets go rhydon
  356. %Shadestep: we get
  357. +Gyro: seems really needed
  358. %Shadestep: blown away by pyroar
  359. %Shadestep: as is
  360. %lucianvega: ye
  361. %lucianvega: for last we need a fire check
  362. +Gyro: don sounds good
  363. %lucianvega: for sure
  364. %lucianvega: is there any fire check+ spinner in 1?
  365. +Gyro: kabu
  366. %Shadestep: kabutops i guess
  367. +MaroGod: Staryu
  368. %Shadestep: or av hitmonchan
  369. %lucianvega: hm
  370. +MaroGod: if real
  371. %lucianvega: !ds rapid spin,nu,all
  372. %Shadestep: but theyre both shaky as fk
  373. %lucianvega: !ds rapid spin,pu,all
  374. @erisia: 252 SpA Life Orb Pyroar Fire Blast vs. 220 HP / 0 SpD Eviolite Thick Fat Piloswine: 211-250 (53.2 - 63.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
  375. %lucianvega: um
  376. #nv: ~workshop remove Piloswine
  377. @BB-8-NU: Piloswine removed
  378. #nv: ~workshop team
  379. @BB-8-NU: Band Liepard / Rotom / Garbodor / Poliwrath
  380. +MaroGod: AV Mag just seems like a nice fit
  381. @erisia: 252 SpA Life Orb Pyroar Fire Blast vs. 0 HP / 220 SpD Eviolite Thick Fat Piloswine: 156-187 (45.7 - 54.8%) -- 52.7% chance to 2HKO
  382. +Gyro: shall we just go don instead of pilo
  383. @erisia: yeah i guess swine doesn't really work
  384. +MaroGod: for that fire/ice check,Viv counter and pyroar not busting through
  385. +Gyro: gives us more freedom in the last slot
  386. %lucianvega: whats an ice check and spinner in 1?
  387. %lucianvega: for last
  388. %lucianvega: cryo?
  389. @erisia: !dt cryogonal
  390. %lucianvega: also checks liligant
  391. %lucianvega: and
  392. %lucianvega: vivillon
  393. +MaroGod: cryo looks alright
  394. @erisia: yeah cryo could work
  395. %lucianvega: and can lure aggon with hp ground
  396. @erisia: just need a fire switchin
  397. #nv: So Don is our 5th mon?
  398. %lucianvega: ye well
  399. %lucianvega: we kinda have a
  400. @erisia: and a volt switch immune
  401. %lucianvega: poliwrath and rhydon for checks of fire
  402. +MaroGod: Cryo+Rhydon
  403. %lucianvega: hp grass is gonna be annoying but idk
  404. +MaroGod: seems nice for the last slots
  405. %lucianvega: ye
  406. %lucianvega: or be real and go AV torkoal
  407. +MaroGod: still get destroyed by LO Pyroar
  408. @erisia: what about
  409. +MaroGod: bar wrath i guess
  410. @erisia: !dt gabite
  411. %Shadestep: yea lol
  412. %lucianvega: na
  413. @erisia: :(
  414. %lucianvega: that dies to hyper voice
  415. +MaroGod: !dt lampent
  416. +MaroGod: if real
  417. %lucianvega: lol
  418. %lucianvega: not an ice check tho
  419. @erisia: so we need SR that resists fire and doesn't drop to hp grass
  420. +MaroGod: Sure it is
  421. +MaroGod: just SpD it
  422. @erisia: regirock?
  423. +MaroGod: ez
  424. %lucianvega: if we put regi then
  425. %lucianvega: electric types r rly annoying
  426. +MaroGod: Regirock looks nice actually
  427. +MaroGod: annoying
  428. +MaroGod: but
  429. +Based Sexy Pants: EQ Regi?
  430. +MaroGod: regi still is nice
  431. #nv: !ds ground type, nu
  432. %Shadestep: then we dont have a volt immunity
  433. +MaroGod: !dt seaking
  434. %lucianvega: lol
  435. +Gyro: gastro oo
  436. +MaroGod: AV seaking
  437. %Shadestep: then we dont have rocks
  438. %Shadestep: -
  439. @erisia: well gastro gets wrecked by hp grass too
  440. +MaroGod: wanted something cool last slot
  441. +Gyro: -
  442. +Gyro: cri.
  443. @erisia: and no rocks lol
  444. %Shadestep: ues
  445. #nv: !dt seismitoad
  446. %lucianvega: hmm
  447. #nv: Come back pls
  448. %Shadestep: we could just pull a king uu
  449. #nv: Lol Shadestep
  450. %lucianvega: i would give everything to bring Toad back
  451. @erisia: ~workshop team
  452. @BB-8-NU: Band Liepard / Rotom / Garbodor / Poliwrath
  453. +Gyro: why are we not just going don?
  454. %lucianvega: rindo golem
  455. @erisia: !ds volt absorb
  456. @erisia: ...
  457. %lucianvega: LOL
  458. +Based Sexy Pants: I'm seeing a lot of Pika.
  459. %lucianvega: i mean
  460. %Shadestep: idk Gyro
  461. %lucianvega: pretty sure poliwrath takes 2 hyper voices
  462. %lucianvega: and don takes hp grass
  463. +MaroGod: nv team so far please
  464. %Shadestep: ~workshop team
  465. @BB-8-NU: Band Liepard / Rotom / Garbodor / Poliwrath
  466. @erisia: how does don take hp grass
  467. +MaroGod: we can always opt
  468. %lucianvega: idk does like million
  469. +MaroGod: to rid garb or tom
  470. +MaroGod: tbh
  471. %lucianvega: but still revenges back
  472. +MaroGod: if we need another slot
  473. +Gyro: I think it lives yeah
  474. +MaroGod: same for wrath
  475. +Gyro: a blast and hp grass
  476. %lucianvega: i think wrath is fine
  477. %lucianvega: since it checks Dons and steelies
  478. @eternally: whats the team so far
  479. %lucianvega: that team is weak to
  480. @erisia: yeah i like this core as it is
  481. #nv: ~workshop team
  482. @BB-8-NU: Band Liepard / Rotom / Garbodor / Poliwrath
  483. #nv: ^Eternally
  484. %lucianvega: we could go like
  485. @eternally: thnx
  486. %lucianvega: gastropod over wrath and AV chan
  487. %lucianvega: but naa
  488. @erisia: i can see that working tbh
  489. %lucianvega: ik but
  490. %Shadestep: same
  491. %lucianvega: double X4 weakness
  492. @erisia: then we need rocks
  493. %lucianvega: is pretty annoying
  494. +Gyro: and still no normal resist
  495. %lucianvega: id say we can make 2 versions of team
  496. @erisia: what double 4x weakness
  497. %lucianvega: this one so far is nice
  498. @erisia: i guess it's weak to freeze dry too
  499. %lucianvega: yea
  500. #nv: 2 versions is fine lucianvega lol
  501. #nv: :o
  502. %lucianvega: yeah i always do that
  503. @erisia: i think gastro + av chan + miltank or something is good
  504. %lucianvega: this one can work bcz it softly checks nearly every threat
  505. #nv: Yea
  506. +MaroGod: need normal resist
  507. %lucianvega: pyroar is only threat i can see tbh
  508. +MaroGod: Miltank looks nice somewhere
  509. +MaroGod: but a normal resist just seems very wanted right now
  510. %lucianvega: i mean
  511. %lucianvega: rotom+garbodor
  512. %lucianvega: is a decent normal check for offense
  513. +Gyro: kanga shits on them but eh
  514. #nv: That deters most of them lol
  515. %lucianvega: ik
  516. %lucianvega: 3rd one could be soft
  517. +MaroGod: so what changes have happened
  518. +MaroGod: since my attention drifted
  519. @erisia: ~workshop remove Poliwrath
  520. @BB-8-NU: Poliwrath removed
  521. %lucianvega: id recommend keeping 1st version of team and then making new
  522. @erisia: ~workshop add Gastrodon
  523. @BB-8-NU: Gastrodon added
  524. +Gyro: oo
  525. @erisia: ~workshop add AV Hitmonchan
  526. @BB-8-NU: AV Hitmonchan added
  527. +Gyro: east or riot
  528. @erisia: ~workshop team
  529. @BB-8-NU: Band Liepard / Rotom / Garbodor / Gastrodon / AV Hitmonchan
  530. %lucianvega: camerupt for last
  531. %lucianvega: oops nvm
  532. @erisia: n
  533. %lucianvega: mb
  534. +Gyro: specs rocks
  535. %lucianvega: LOL
  536. +Gyro: :[
  537. %lucianvega: !ds stealth rock,nu,all
  538. %lucianvega: hm
  539. +Gyro: ooo lead aurorus
  540. %lucianvega: thats what i thought
  541. @erisia: yeahhhhhhh
  542. +MaroGod: seems nice
  543. +MaroGod: i like it
  544. +Gyro: or mes sounds good too
  545. %lucianvega: its also a decent flying check
  546. +Gyro: one of those two imo
  547. %lucianvega: id say aurorus
  548. %lucianvega: because
  549. +Gyro: and normal resist too
  550. @erisia: ice resist from aurorus is nice
  551. %lucianvega: snow warning is rly nice for chan
  552. #nv: I liek Rorus
  553. #nv: :o
  554. %lucianvega: and ice resist is great
  555. +Gyro: :D
  556. @erisia: ~workshop add Lead Aurorus
  557. @BB-8-NU: Lead Aurorus added
  558. %lucianvega: but
  559. %lucianvega: we are forced to run
  560. %lucianvega: 208 HP hitmonchan kinda
  561. #nv: Ok so this is the first version lol
  562. @erisia: that's fine the rest of the team is plenty fast
  563. +Gyro: want me to test for us nv? once someone pastebins it
  564. @erisia: what does 208HP survive
  565. %lucianvega: wasnt first version with wrath?
  566. %lucianvega: we can keep both since they r fine
  567. #nv: Sure Gyro :)
  568. %Shadestep: sorry i went away for a sec
  569. #nv: Oh right lucianvega lol
  570. %Shadestep: ~workshop team
  571. @BB-8-NU: Band Liepard / Rotom / Garbodor / Gastrodon / AV Hitmonchan / Lead Aurorus
  572. %Shadestep: oh thats new
  573. %lucianvega: wait im pretty sure i have them in teambuilder
  574. +Gyro: shall I build it or is someone already?
  575. %lucianvega: ill make sets for both teams just tell me how much sped you want for chan
  576. @erisia: i'm not
  577. %Shadestep: i have it
  578. %Shadestep: almsot ready
  579. +Gyro: ok cool Shadestep
  580. #nv: Wait are we Toxic Plate Garb or Rocky Helmet w/ Focus Blast? :o
  581. %Shadestep: what gastro evs
  582. %lucianvega: helmet for sure
  583. %lucianvega: defensive garb, team is weak to fighting types otherwise a lot
  584. #nv: Kk
  585. @erisia: rocky helmet with seed bomb imo
  586. #nv: Don't we want FB for Aggron tho erisia?
  587. %lucianvega: hm on first team id say seed bomb is cool since we have 2 aggron cheks
  588. %Shadestep: hey
  589. %Shadestep: whats the lead aurorus set
  590. #nv: Although ig we have Gastro for Aggron
  591. +MaroGod: someone tag when doing something next
  592. %lucianvega: rocks blizard freeze dry
  593. %lucianvega: earth power
  594. +MaroGod: when doing another team sorry
  595. %lucianvega: earth power or stone miss rather
  596. +Gyro: rock tomb usually
  597. +Gyro: or rocks slide w/e
  598. @erisia: it's up to you but no grass move anywhere strikes me as odd
  599. %lucianvega: stone edge since we r a bit weaker to fire types
  600. %Shadestep: timid?
  601. %lucianvega: modest
  602. @erisia: if we're seed bomb liepard then sure focus blast on garb
  603. +Gyro: timid usually
  604. %lucianvega: timid wont help much
  605. %lucianvega: and modest gives more power to team
  606. %lucianvega: since there are no much wallbreakers
  607. #nv: I think we are Pursuit Pard erisia
  608. %lucianvega: ye
  609. %Shadestep: http://pastebin.com/CTtT8sxY
  610. #nv: So we could go with Seed Bomb
  611. %Shadestep: this should be it!
  612. @erisia: then imo seed bomb on garb, we have gastrodon for aggron
  613. %lucianvega: not copycat on band set
  614. #nv: Shadestep, those EVs on Chan tho
  615. #nv: :o
  616. %lucianvega: LOL
  617. %Shadestep: uh
  618. %Shadestep: huh
  619. @erisia: ;lol
  620. %Shadestep: i dont see the problem.
  621. @erisia: 32 HP / 132 Spe
  622. @erisia: nice spread
  623. Eternally lol: standard
  624. %Shadestep: yea
  625. %Shadestep: thats tandard?
  626. %Shadestep: idk what ur talking about lol.
  627. %Shadestep: jk prnak
  628. %Shadestep: make it 124 hp max atk 132 speed
  629. %lucianvega: um
  630. %Shadestep: adamant
  631. %lucianvega: whats second team
  632. %lucianvega: malamar check
  633. %lucianvega: put signal beam on rotom
  634. %Shadestep: second
  635. %lucianvega: over trick
  636. %Shadestep: team
  637. @Eternally: malamar check?
  638. %Shadestep: ?
  639. @Eternally: whats that
  640. #nv: ^
  641. +MaroGod: banded turn par
  642. +MaroGod: pard
  643. @erisia: ram alamnab
  644. +MaroGod: ez
  645. +Gyro: so what changes are we making to the pastebin?
  646. %lucianvega: http://pastebin.com/CktPEV3e
  647. %lucianvega: this is first pastebin
  648. +Gyro: shall I test?
  649. %Shadestep: whoa
  650. %Shadestep: they updated the mega animation
  651. #nv: You can test both Gyro :)
  652. +Gyro: http://play.pokemonshowdown.com/battle-nususpecttest-389407371
  653. %lucianvega: put clear smog on gastrodon for last slot for sure
  654. +Gyro: ruh roh
  655. +Gyro: im in already
  656. %lucianvega: id even opt for haze garbodor
  657. %lucianvega: since its not bad at all
  658. @erisia: yeah
  659. @erisia: i'd vouch for that
  660. @erisia: both team variants look good tbh
  661. %lucianvega: i used it once and it was pretty good since everyone thinks they can setup vs it
  662. @erisia: get in with the anti-chicken-pass crowd
  663. #nv: Wait Shadestep
  664. #nv: Why 32 EVs on Lead Rorus?
  665. #nv: Atk*
  666. %lucianvega: its a standard spread iirc
  667. +Gyro: yeah
  668. %lucianvega: not sure
  669. %Shadestep: i too it from the analysis
  670. @erisia: helps a ko with rock tomb i assume
  671. +Gyro: for rock tomb
  672. %lucianvega: yeh
  673. #nv: Oh ok
  674. #nv: Just making sure before I "officialize" the pb so I can post in the Workshop thread :o
  675. %lucianvega: if only rhydon didnt have x4 grass weakness would be lord
  676. @Eternally: lol lucianvega
  677. %lucianvega: ,
  678. @erisia: it lets you 2hko av magmortar and pyroar cleanly
  679. %Shadestep: you all should like my reqs post
  680. %Shadestep: http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/nu-stage-14-alt-identification-thread.3575354/#post-6864117
  681. %Shadestep: tyvm
  682. %lucianvega: ah
  683. @Eternally: nice you gottem already
  684. %Punchshroom: the Rock Tomb 2HKOes Pyroar after Gail iirc
  685. %Punchshroom: *hail
  686. +Based Sexy Pants: I did Shadestep.
  687. +Based Sexy Pants: :^)
  688. %Shadestep: thank.
  689. %Shadestep: and yea Eternally
  690. %Shadestep: shoutout kangaspikes!
  691. @Eternally: !
  692. @erisia: shadestep is such a tryhard fml
  693. %Shadestep: says the smogbot
  694. #nv: Ok so the two versions of the team looks awesome :o
  695. @erisia: beep boop
  696. %lucianvega: can u give me the pastebin once more so i check if theres any weakness we can fix
  697. @erisia: battle one team vs another imo
  698. %lucianvega: with moveset
  699. %Shadestep: no go away lucianvega
  700. %lucianvega: come on come on
  701. +Based Sexy Pants: Lol.
  702. #nv: http://pastebin.com/CktPEV3e 1st
  703. #nv: http://pastebin.com/8wiMwihD 2nd
  704. %lucianvega: in case we r weak to minor things, coverage moves r pretty important
  705. %lucianvega: tnx
  706. #nv: Np
  707. +Gyro: searching with 2nd
  708. %lucianvega: erisia r up for haze garbodor?
  709. +Gyro: http://play.pokemonshowdown.com/battle-nususpecttest-389409402
  710. @erisia: sure
  711. #nv: lucianvega, make sure to post the updated ones :P
  712. #nv: Then I will end the workshop
  713. %lucianvega: ye dw
  714. +Gyro: what do we have for lapras
  715. +Gyro: lol
  716. %lucianvega: cryo
  717. +Gyro: huh
  718. +Gyro: I don't have cryo
  719. %lucianvega: just dodge hydro
  720. %lucianvega: oh rišp
  721. %lucianvega: rip*
  722. #nv: Tbh it is Lapras
  723. %lucianvega: chan and offensive pressure
  724. @Eternally: when the counter gets frozen
  725. @erisia: what even checks lapras tbh
  726. #nv: ^
  727. @erisia: !learn lapras, stone edge
  728. %Shadestep: av muk
  729. +MaroGod: waterfall lapras
  730. +MaroGod: lgi
  731. %Shadestep: it cheks everything
  732. @erisia: rip
  733. +MaroGod: !learn lapras, iron tail
  734. @Eternally: Walrein
  735. +Gyro: why are we not toxic
  736. +Gyro: sigh
  737. %Shadestep: we are
  738. %Shadestep: we should
  739. +Gyro: we're clear smog
  740. %Shadestep: -
  741. %Shadestep: who changed
  742. %lucianvega: clear smog is best option ;/
  743. %Shadestep: doesnt show here
  744. @Eternally: [22:04] %lucianvega: put clear smog on gastrodon for last slot for sure
  745. %lucianvega: we have toxic spikes for toxic and clear smog gives us best matchup vs
  746. @Eternally: -
  747. %Shadestep: -------------
  748. %Shadestep: r u srs vega
  749. %Shadestep: omg
  750. %lucianvega: rott
  751. %Shadestep: i hae u
  752. +Gyro: huh
  753. %Shadestep: hate
  754. @Eternally: lucia you cost us this game
  755. %Shadestep: yea
  756. %Shadestep: thanks lucianvega
  757. %Shadestep: lucianvega more like
  758. %Shadestep: lucianvegan
  759. @Eternally: -
  760. %lucianvega: ,
  761. %lucianvega: in order to deal with setup sweepers like Rott
  762. %lucianvega: theres no other way
  763. @erisia: !learn gastrodon, frenzy plant
  764. %lucianvega: whats your answer to CM psychics with signal beam if not clear smog gastro as well
  765. @Eternally: dodging signal beam
  766. %lucianvega: hi user : Eternally
  767. @Eternally: hello
  768. +Based Sexy Pants: Lol.
  769. +Gyro: scarf lapras
  770. +Gyro: </3
  771. %Shadestep: no
  772. %Shadestep: 'we're 221 speed
  773. +Gyro: oh we're slow af
  774. %Shadestep: arent we
  775. +Gyro: 216
  776. @Eternally: y, enough for aurorus I think
  777. @Eternally: who knew lapras would 6-0
  778. +Gyro: if we were offensive chan
  779. +Gyro: we'd be fine
  780. %lucianvega: we cant afford that
  781. +Gyro: yh
  782. %lucianvega: ;/
  783. +Gyro: but we need to counter all those lapras' on ladder
  784. +MaroGod: there are no counters
  785. +Based Sexy Pants: Lol.
  786. +MaroGod: its too good
  787. %lucianvega: ye, + youll see lapras 1/100 games
  788. %lucianvega: and new players run AV set anyway
  789. #nv: Any last minute changes before we close?
  790. #nv: :o
  791. #nv: (I have the updated pb's from lucianvega already but just double checking)
  792. #nv: Guess not
  793. #nv: Thanks guys!
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