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nine: hi
.zeN: sup
.zeN: Filename: ayyylmao.smx
  Filename: ayyylmao.smx
  Title: Where's God
  Title: Where's God
  Author: Satan
  Author: Satan
  Version: 6A6E63
  Version: 6A6E63
  URL: x
  URL: x
  Status: running
  Status: running
  Reloads: Map Change if Updated
  Reloads: Map Change if Updated
  Timestamp: 01/21/2017 00:27:10
  Timestamp: 01/21/2017 00:27:10
  Hash: c302b4140f70a3f19dcb11a7d89a6067
  Hash: c302b4140f70a3f19dcb11a7d89a6067
.zeN: this is ur plugin right?
nine: yeah
nine: why?
.zeN: I don't want my plugin running with seperate plugins/addons
nine: why?
.zeN: for this exact reason
.zeN: because then it's not a zenserver anymore
nine: oh
.zeN: if u want new features added to my plugin people have to ask me to add them personally
nine: but
nine: its actually a zenserver with more stuff
nine: your name its on the server
.zeN: stuff I haven't approved
nine: i don't know why are you ddosing servers
.zeN: I'm not ddosing anymore
.zeN: I was ddosing coz u amde a plugin to autokick me
.zeN: the reason I banned ppl was to find out who the admin was
.zeN: so I could talk to them
nine: just because some people are using your plugin when you are not giving the source from the sourcemod license
nine: ok
.zeN: I'm not publicly distributing the plugin
nine: as far i know
.zeN: so I'm not obligated to give out any source
nine: the server is not kicking you anymore
.zeN: true
.zeN: but I still don't want any other plugin running on servers using my plugin
.zeN: other than mine
nine: because you can't use your superadmin mode right?
.zeN: I can use it just fine
.zeN: after I figured out what ur plugin does
nine: yeah
nine: it's all okay
nine: but why do you need ayylmao away from this
.zeN: not just that I don't want servers that are using my zenserver.smx to have any other plugins running
.zeN: if you don't like it feel free to use classic rotoblin
nine: but you know zenserver its just a plugin right?
nine: and sourcemod manage this kind of stuff
.zeN: it's a sourcemod plugin yes
.zeN: the whole point of my plugin was to make all servers running it identical
.zeN: to make a consistent gaming experience for everyone playing on them
nine: but you know that server isn't identical
nine: just because it's not identical, you are ddosing it
.zeN: I was ddosing it
.zeN: because it was kicking me
nine: the log said that you were banning people
.zeN: mmhm
.zeN: I needed to get in contact with server admin
nine: i can see that you are not friendly with the ayyylmao
.zeN: not just that plugin
.zeN: all the other plugins too
.zeN: 01 "L4D Force Mission Changer" (1.4.0) by Dionys
           02 "Where's God" (6A6E63) by Satan
           03 "L4D EndRound Cap" (0.1) by JNC
           04 "ZenServer: Ultimate" (4.43) by Zen
           05 "Top Skeeters" (?) by thrillkill
           06 "RCON Lock" (0.6.8) by devicenull
           07 "Tickrate Fixes" (1.0) by Sir, Griffin
           08 "Client Restrictions | JNC" (1.1) by JNC
           09 "L4D1 Witch Glow! Beta" (0.3) by JNC
nine: i see
nine: what is that
.zeN: the plugins running on the server
nine: oh, the force mission changer
nine: yeah, for some reason it doesnt work in your plugin
.zeN: I want everything except zenserver to be unloaded if it's gonna run my plugin
nine: the top skeeters doesnt work
nine: in your plugin
nine: what if i unloaded all plugins except zen and ayyylmao
nine: ?
.zeN: if u want to run some plugins with zs:u just give me plugin .sp and I will look through it
.zeN: and incorporate it
.zeN: into my zenserver.smx
.zeN: that's how it goes
nine: since ayylmao doesn't change anything in game experience
nine: why do i need to give you the sp to incorporate? you can give the source or just separate the zenserver into all of these smx from the default sourcemod
.zeN: zenserver.smx
nine: i mean, you know what does ayyylmao do right?
.zeN: contains a lot of other plugins
nine: from others authors
nine: i can't see that you are giving the credit
nine: no one steal the credit from your plugin
.zeN: I don't care about credit
.zeN: I just care about the environment in which my plugin is used
nine: the enviroment its fine if its used with zenserver.smx and ayylmao
nine: but why do you need all unload except zenserver
nine: ayylmao doesn't change the game experience
.zeN: if u want it so bad just give me the .sp and let me integrate it into my plugin
.zeN: and it's done
.zeN: everyone happy
nine: well
nine: this a little awkward
nine: because ayylmao doesn't change anything about gaming experience
.zeN: I know it runs commands on me
.zeN: and autokicked me
nine: it just block the superadmin mode abuse from your plugin
.zeN: no it doesn't
.zeN: xD
nine: it's not kicking you anymore
nine: with this plugin you can play
.zeN: I don't wanna play l4d at all
nine: without problems
.zeN: so if u just delete all other plugins when using my plugin u have nothing to fear from me
nine: if you dont wanna play
nine: why are you telling me from the kicking mode?
.zeN: because
.zeN: it's a zs:u server
.zeN: it's like letting someone live in your house for a week while you're away
.zeN: then u come home
.zeN: and the door is locked
.zeN: and locks are changed
nine: its actually the house from another person
nine: and we got the door
nine: but you got the key
nine: why do you need the key, we can give you the key
nine: without problems
.zeN: then jsut unload all the other plugins
.zeN: and we won't have a problem
.zeN: just look at all the other servers using my plugin
.zeN: I'm not doing anything to them either
nine: i can see the others servers
nine: but i heard that you are abusing
.zeN: lol
.zeN: I haven't even been playing l4d for months
.zeN: how can I abuse
nine: i mean, it's all okay if its your plugin, if you bring a new experience
.zeN: the only servers I've ever abused admin on
.zeN: are my OWN servers
.zeN: not someone else's server using my plugin
nine: but why do you need autoadmin from another servers that aren't you owning?
.zeN: because they're using my plugin
.zeN: that's the price you pay for using it
nine: i see
nine: let's see
nine: what if i use another plugin identical
nine: and you can't join
nine: are you still trying to ddos the servers?
.zeN: as long as it's not using my plugin
.zeN: idc if I'm banned
nine: this is a good point here
nine: because you will never know if its your plugin
.zeN: I can have ppl join it
.zeN: and check
.zeN: lol
.zeN: or go there on another account
nine: but this is not point actually
.zeN: ofc I will know
nine: yeah, you got like 4 steamids on your zen
nine: 2 from you
nine: and 2 from archer
.zeN: I don't need god rights
.zeN: to see it's my plugin
.zeN: infact
.zeN: I don't even need to be on the server
.zeN: to check if it's using my plugin
nine: you just need another person like you said
.zeN: nope
.zeN: not even that
.zeN: how do u think I noticed u were using my plugin
nine: then 2 things
.zeN: and there was no [zs:u]
.zeN: in the server name
nine: 1- why are you not giving credits from another authors?
2- ayyylmao doesn't give you problems, since you are not playing left 4 dead anymore, and like you said, you don't wanna play
.zeN: it's breaking the rules of use of my plugin
.zeN: I'm not okay with it
.zeN: if u want to keep using my plugin
.zeN: remove all other plugins
.zeN: I'm letting everyone use my plugin because it makes l4d a better game, making me admin on all those servers is a relatively small price to pay
.zeN: and I wouldn't do this in the first place
.zeN: and you're not the first to do something like this either
.zeN: someone in EU did the same last year
nine: i know
nine: .zeN: it's breaking the rules of use of my plugin
nine: where are the rules?
nine: on pastebin it says the changelog
.zeN: there are no publicly available rules
.zeN: but there doesn't need to be
.zeN: since I'm overseeing the use of my plugin
.zeN: which is why we're talking right now
nine: so, if we don't want to use your admin power on the server
nine: you are gonna ddos the server again'
nine: ?
.zeN: I don't want to use my admin powers on your servers
.zeN: but I want to HAVE admin powers
.zeN: on all servers
.zeN: using my plugin
nine: why do you need to HAVE
nine: since you are not using it
nine: i mean, its okay
.zeN: matter of principle
.zeN: nothing is free in this world
nine: you can ask for admin
nine: and people will give you
.zeN: why ask for admin when I'm already admin?
nine: you know that right?
.zeN: just remove the other plugins and everything can go back to normal
.zeN: and if uwant some other plugin added into my plugin
.zeN: just give me the source code
.zeN: and I'll see what I can do
.zeN: you're not gonna see any problems from me as long as the server is running in my preset acceptable conditions for the use of my plugin
nine: what problems?
.zeN: I won't be on your server, I won't use my admin powers on your server
.zeN: the only reason I did it in the first place
.zeN: was because u were overidding my plugin's functionality
.zeN: with extra plugins
.zeN: which shouldn't have been running the first place
nine: overdding?
nine: i thought you were saying about bettegaming experience
.zeN: that's part of it
.zeN está jugando ahora a Left 4 Dead. Haz clic aquí para entrar.
nine: but i can see that you just want a gaming experience from your place
.zeN: so ur not gonna do what I say
nine: its not like that
nine: i'm trying to understand
nine: your point about the gaming experience
nine: since you don't credit
.zeN está jugando ahora a Left 4 Dead. Haz clic aquí para entrar.
nine: why are you using all of these stuff on server tag for example
.zeN: there are credits in my package
.zeN: to signify that it is a zenserver
.zeN: also join here
.zeN: and I'll show u
.zeN: that ur plugin doesn't prevent me from using my plugin
.zeN: so it's literally pointless
nine: if it doesnt prevent
.zeN: unless u want to ban me
nine: why are you telling me about the ayyylmao in first place
.zeN: because it CAN be used
.zeN: to kick me
.zeN: not acceptable
nine: it's not kicking you anymore
nine: like i said
.zeN: it shouldn't be possible to run any other plugins with my plugin running
.zeN: in the first place
.zeN: that's my point
.zeN: u simply found a way around that
nine: but its possible now
.zeN: by decompiling my plugin
.zeN: and setting aliases in place
nine: your plugin its not being modified
.zeN: and I'm telling u to undo all that
.zeN: so are u going to comply to my terms or not
nine: first at all, im trying to understand your point
.zeN: my point is: follow the terms of use for my plugin or don't use it at all
nine: okay
nine: i'll not use your plugin then
.zeN: ok good
nine: but in a few days
nine: since i don't need to be awake right now
nine: but we talked and its okay
nine: i clearly understand
nine: why are you ddosing and banning people
.zeN: I'm not
.zeN: I only did it to get the attention of the server owner
.zeN: coz I don't know people from south america
nine: but you did it
nine: it's okay if you want to claim the power since its your plugin
nine: but cmon, ddosing?
.zeN: if u deny me the power I deserve ofc I will take ur server down
.zeN: lol
nine: you said that you are not playing l4d anymor
.zeN: I'm not
nine: since 2 months or something like that
.zeN: I still don't tolerate ppl
.zeN: taking away my rights
nine: you have a serious problem
nine: but its okay
nine: i can understand a little
.zeN: it's called leverage
.zeN: it's not a problem
nine: yeah yeah
nine: give me a few days
.zeN: sure
nine: it's too late here
.zeN: np
nine: i don't know what time its in your country but
nine: good night, give me a few days to remove the zenserver.smx and you will not ddos the server again