SomeGuy x Michael Interview about Onision in High School

https://soundcloud.com/someguy827/hsanon-interview


SG: Ok so here we go. Alright. Ladies and Gentlemen, I… I almost don't have words to describe how I'm feeling right now. I'm amazed at what is about to go down that you're gonna listen to. I've said this for years in videos before. I've been waiting a long time for somebody who went to school with our old friend Onion Boy to come forward and talk about what he was like. And that is exactly what this guy has done. For those that don't get what is going on, the guy that I'm about to interview who goes by the name Michael, claimed that in a thread last night on a random imageboard that he went to school with Onion Boy, and laid out some of the most insane, crazy stuff that I've ever heard since the friggen Chris-Chan drama, that whole saga. And he emailed me this morning saying "look, aside from those posts I wouldn't mind talking to you about it" and actually managed to confirm that yes, he did go to school where he says he went to school. So I've been able to confirm that. He's given me a few stipulations here, so if you hear satan speaking to me in this, he's asked me (after the interview) to modulate his voice, and that's what you're gonna hear. So, let's get into this without further ado! And there's a link to his postings in the original thread in the description box below that you can check out. So yeah, let's get into this without further ado. Introduce yourself!

HS: Ok yeah, my name is Michael and I went to school with Gregory Jackson, who is known as Onision, all the way through my freshman year to my graduating senior year.

SG: So, we're not gonna cover your personal life because you even told me before the interview that that's out of bounds, so we're not gonna do that.

HS: correct

SG: So what was he like? What are some of your earliest memories of onion boy in high school?

HS: in the beginning he was always the quiet, somewhat awkward kid who would have the occasional loud outburst in class over something he thought was funny, but no-one else did. Teachers never really liked him for doing that, and the more they got angry with him for doing it, the more he seemed to continue to just do it. Basically the best way to explain how he was then is just look at how he is now. Not as intense.

SG: So basically trying to be the class clown, but just failing on his face every time?

HS: Right. Right. Exactly. I don't know if he knew he was being unfunny or not, but the teachers got mad at him all the time because he just, he wouldn't stop. He would interrupt class all the time to make some stupid joke about farts or just something incredibly immature, and he often got kicked out of class for it actually. I remember a few times he got kicked out of class for it. And he ended up just getting mad at the teacher. And the more often they would try to reprimand him for doing this, the more often he would do it. I guess that was in his mind his way of rebelling.
When things got really awkward for Greg is around the time he got interested in some girls he knew at the school. Now I know that him and Skye have known each-other for a very long time. They knew each-other since about 2000-2001, and I want to make something clear right now (I don't think I made that very clear in the thread last night) this is sort of secondhand information. Now, I know people that they know, and this is what they've told me. So, you have to take this all as you will. I'm just kind of dumping this off my conscience because of how long of all of this for years, and after getting curious from seeing some videos of him of what became of him. This is one of the reasons why I'm doing this. The biggest problem he has always faced in his life - it seems even now, and it was then - is that he is a massive cheater. He never seems to make true commitments to any of the women that he gets with now, and certainly not then. When he was seeing a couple different girls at school it was because he was seeing one and not telling the other. And I just I never understood how he could so easily do that. He was more upset all the time that he got caught…

SG: So it was more of like a huge ego trip for him..

HS: Right, right. He was more upset at the time that he got caught rather than that he was doing this to them in the first place. I know that it's something cheaters tend to do, they'll just pass the book off and pass the blame…

SG: Or just deny it entirely

HS: Exactly. They'll pass the buck off and pass the blame on someone else for… I mean, this was just almost every other week until he got serious with Skye.

SG: So he'd only see girls a week at a time? That's insane I mean how does somebody do that? So basically what you are saying is that he would see a girl for a very brief period of time and just kind of get bored and go find somebody else?

HS: Yup

SG: That's crazy…

HS: That website that you dug up a long long time ago. Every girl that he listed on there, for the most part, as an ex girlfriend, the reason why he even put them up on that site in the first place is because he has never ever let go of them.

SG: Haha wow…

HS: He would follow those girls around school, he would follow them around in their personal life. It wasn't until he got serious with Skye that he actually finally physically left them alone. He would still write about them a lot. We would see postings of poetry on our school’s bulletin board that were basically love letters to these girls. And he wouldn't tell his girlfriend then about it. And this little circle of friends, we were always mind boggled about this. It's just so abnormal for somebody to be so hung up on a person they wronged, and then in one breath will tell you that they're the worst person in the entire world, and this goes into some moralities that he has… but let's save that for the moment. He would go into how they're the worst person in the world, and then in the next breath he would say they are the most beautiful shining pillar of light ever… That they fill his life with so much meaning, and it seems like when I am actually reading about this girl in this book he had written, he's never left that mentality behind. We had to deal with this all of the time, and once he started getting more into girls, once he started dating more around the school before he got serious with his now ex-wife, it was a nightmare. It was a nightmare for those who knew what he was doing.

SG: My god. That just sounds like it must have been absolutely insufferable to put up with, I mean how did you guys deal with that? Also, you spoke about his "odd moralities". This is something that I have pointed out like a million million fucking times in my videos, that his moral code is just so bizarre. Could you go into a little bit about how that was in high school?

HS: Yeah. It wasn't much different than it seems to be now, really. He had this incredibly strange perception that cigarettes, alcohol, drugs were… what could I even compare it to… They were worse than murder, to be honest. It was odd... I don't even know where anybody could get such an anti… His moral views are just hard to put into words. He absolutely thought he was better than everyone else because he'd never tried a cigarette, he'd never tried smoking weed, never taken a drink of alcohol. Now to everyone else, we didn't care. No-one really cared about those sort of things. But he actually used those things as some sort of moral superiority, like he was purer than everyone else. That he was cleaner than everyone else. And it was insane because what was doing he was was putting himself as better than other people, when they themselves had never touched any of those things either. He would more or less weigh people up on how they looked, how they acted. And use that as the sole basis for judging them as people. Even then, in the girls reading of the book, he's just… In that book he is literally documenting exactly how he was in high school, and we all experienced nothing different. It was funny, because when he got very, very into this veganism thing (and I talked about this last night in the thread) he would intentionally start fights with people about it.

SG: Holy shit, are you serious?

HS: Yes, I’m dead serious. He would piss people off by going up to them… if they’re having a burrito or having a hamburger or having a pepperoni pizza, anything with meat on it, he would out of nowhere start berating them. Saying like, “you’re exploiting the killing of animals” and stuff. And people when they’re eating, they don’t want to hear about it. No one wants to hear that. So they would either just leave without finishing lunch or they’d get into an argument with him and then he would act like he was superior because he got them into an argument. And I remember one time he had some -- I don’t even know what it was about, I can barely remember what is was about really-- personal problem with these three metalhead kids. And they decided to get into an argument with him.

SG: Haha! Oh, no.

HS: And instead of, you know, trying to weasel his way out of the argument…

SG: He pulled a personal card?

HS: Yeah, he pulled a personal card. And that was not pretty. They beat the crap out of him in front of the entire school.

SG: That doesn’t surprise me at all. Not one bit.

HS: Yeah. Most of the videos he’ll talk about his past and stuff on YouTube… that’s, none of it’s true. It’s either major exaggerations or he massively underplays what happened. Or just makes things up entirely. Once he started getting to be the way you know him and most of the internet knows him now, back then we all just rejected him. We couldn’t put up with it anymore. You asked how we put up with it -- most people couldn’t. I mean, he was always getting in trouble with teachers, he was always getting in trouble with other students. He was sort of our school’s running joke for a long time.

SG: So this is one myself and a lot of other people wanna know. Is he for real a vegan? Was he one back then? What’s the deal with that?

HS: This is what made his moral code make even less sense. No, he wasn’t a vegan or a vegetarian at all during high school. He would gorge on burgers for lunch, tacos, burritos, anything that vegetarians don’t normally eat. As well as energy drinks and soda. The energy drinks were worse because his sense of humour was already bad. So being hopped up on all that caffeine just made it a thousand times worse. A lot of the fights and arguments he got into with people about his views on veganism and vegetarianism were from the fact that he wasn’t actually a vegan or vegetarian at all. I see a lot of his videos on the subject now and this is exactly the same stuff he would say. Exactly the same stuff. And people were watching him eat like a Burger King or a whopper or something like that and they wondered to themselves “why is this guy telling me my diet is disgusting when his is exactly the same.” I don’t think he’s ever really been a vegan. I don’t think he’s ever really been a vegetarian. I know that you’ve said this in a video and it reminded me of my viewings on him even back in high school. I think, personally, he just says he’s these things because he knows they stir controversy and that gets people talking about him. He can be one thing completely different behind closed doors, but in front of his audience he’s this completely different thing from that. It’s an idealised version of himself. He was starting to get really more into that in high school as well near senior year. At that point in my life I was way more focused on finals, I was way more focused into trying to get into college. And so at that point, when he was really starting to go off the deep end, I just didn’t care anymore. I had better things to do with my life.

SG: The stuff you’re saying is absolutely blowing my mind because it is making so much sense and confirming so many things that I’ve been saying for years now. So… and I know that you just said you were getting into college mode and prepping for all that, I understand all that.

HS: Yes.

SG: When he really went off the deep end, I mean, what was that like? And there was another story that you wrote in your post last night that just blew my mind. And I’m gonna mention this for the audience so they have an idea of what this is all about because they probably haven’t read into the thread at all yet. Is that cool?

HS: Oh yeah, that’s totally cool.


SG: Okay, basically this guy went onto describe that Onision had gotten caught fucking around behind this girl’s back that he was dating, and that her dad was a Marine or something like that. And he’d gotten called up to the office for starting a whole bunch of drama in regards to this situation. And during the conference between Onion, I guess his principal, this girl’s dad, and the girl. his mother shows up. And for those of you who knows anything about his mother. his mother is just mentally whacked. She’s this psycho new age kind of creepy motherfucker and she just starts chanting in the middle of it. And apparently you, like, stumble upon all this. Can you go into that a little bit?

HS: Oh, yes, I can totally do that.

SG: That was the most insane story I think I’ve ever read.

HS: Okay, okay, this is kind of a weird story so it goes like this: I, for one, I don’t know the full details of what really brought this to a conference. I know that he had been seeing a girl, a mutual friend of a mutual friend, and he decided to start seeing someone behind her back without letting her know. As I said earlier, this is something that he did a lot, he would get bored of a girl because he’d find something about her that he didn’t like, and then he would just go and see somebody else and not even, you know, bother breaking up with her because, I guess, if things messed up with him and the girl he was cheating on her with, he’d have something to fall back on. Sounds like the whole, what was that girl’s name, the Shiloh thing. Anyway, he gets caught and he was actually trying to get with this girl sexually; she feels uncomfortable about it from what I understand, tells her father and -  I said I don’t know if he was a Marine or not, he looked like he could have been, I mean he was a very big guy, he was a very, very built guy. And, I stumbled upon this because I had some late work to turn in, and rather than just set it on my teacher’s desk and wait for them to get it in the morning, I knew exactly where their personal office was, back at the school, so I went directly to them just to give it to them in person, so I knew they would get it. And on the way there I pass by the principal’s office where this is all going on and I…  When you hear something like this you want to just stop and just observe, I mean, you don’t want to miss something like this. So, essentially, I’m overhearing him getting yelled at, being called a “motherfucker”, a “stupid asshole”, a “whiny crybaby” - just everything under the sun from this guy and I’m just kind of standing around the corner listening to all this. The principal is not saying anything; he’s just sitting there kind of with his hand against his temple and he’s just leaning on his desk watching this all go on. And the girl is very upset, she’s going “how can you do this to me?”, “how could you think of me so little to try and use me like that?”. And Onion is not saying anything, he’s just sitting there doing nothing. His mom walks in. His mom is… she’s just… she’s just always been special. From every time she’s had to bail him out of things - and that was a lot, she’s had to bail him out of a lot in life, in fact I think the only parental influence he’s ever had in his life, that anybody in school every saw, was his mother. No one ever saw him around a dad, no one ever saw a father in the picture. I guess that kind of says everything that needs to be said. But she shows up, and she starts going off about how her boy is this amazing, special boy who can’t do anything wrong; he’s not in the wrong here, the girl is a trifling little skank, she’s trying to corrupt her son. All this, and the dad is just about ready to go off, I think he was just about ready to smack Greg for this. Out of nowhere this woman starts chanting these - I don’t know what it is, I’m not trying to be rude to people that are into pagan religions and such - but she starts chanting this stuff, and I mean, it’s just like… he buries his hands in his face, he’s sitting there looking like his life is over… you almost want to be sympathetic to him and then you realize he is in this position because he put himself in this position, and his mother is chanting to the moon or whatever trying to bail him out, and the principal eventually gets so fed up with it that he asks everybody to leave. The whole thing is just, you know… everything said and done is out.

SG: (laughs) Holy fuck!

HS: I had to actually turn away because I couldn’t stop laughing. (laughs)

SG: I don’t blame you - I don’t blame you at all!

HS: I to this day just can’t explain what the hell I saw, but this happened a lot. This happened absolutely a lot. He would get in trouble with somebody at school, he would have to have a conference with a teacher or something, and his mother would come to bail him out. You saw his mother yanking him out of the school so much, and for somebody his age...16 ½ going on 17. It was...it was sad! It was sad to see somebody that was that...dependent on the family. Which says a lot about his major immaturity. That’s basically what happened in that situation.

SG: That’s the craziest fucking shit that I’ve ever heard! That is literally - that’s the craziest fucking shit I’ve ever heard. So his mom would always bail him out. I mean, I’ve said that too - that his mom probably caused a lot of his fucking issues. You know? Cus you never do - you never really do see a dad around this guy at all. I know you’re kinda strapped on time, we can probably stretch this out longer some other time, but uh…like...like, before you have to take off here, like, what kind of other crazy shit did you see his mom do to him at school?

HS: I don’t really have anything as in-depth as the last story I just told you. I really only saw some vignettes of what his whole life was possibly like. There was a time where his mom would pick him up and drop him off at school before he got his own vehicle. He’d just go back and forth his home where… There are some secondhand stories I can give you.

SG: Yeah, that’s totally cool.

HS: Okay. I have been told by other people that their...connection and relationship was just absolutely bipolar. She would praise him and say he’s the best son in the world, he can do no wrong, the world... I guess other people were just misunderstood by other people. And the next moment she would just tear him down about everything - his personality, the things he likes, the things he doesn’t like, the people he hung around...everything. In his upbringing, you never see him for what friends of him would tell friends of mine and myself. You never see his father as a major influence in his life. And with a mother like his, he had a very...feminist/feminine structured household. I’m not trying to be sexist here by saying this, but that can cause a lot of problems for children. You need both parents - you need the mother and you need the father. And if you look at a lot of how he views people, if you look at a lot of how he views women, men relationships - anything within that spectrum is absolutely all over the place. He has no consistency about whatsoever. And we never noticed any consistency - I’ve never but - he was either a total bastard to his mother, or he was the best thing in the world to her. She never really talked much about his sisters at all. She never mentioned anything about any other aspect of her life aside from some really crazy weird New Age stuff and her son. She might as well not have any other children, because she was always obsessed with talking about her son. I never liked this lady to be really honest with you - not many people did. Not a lot of the people I ever talked to did, they said that she would give them a 1000-yard stare instead of like, looking at them. When she would talk to you, she looked through you. Not much was going on upstairs. To be really honest, a lot of my friends and I...we thought she was on drugs when we first met her. We thought something was very very off with this woman, like she was constantly strung out. He never seemed too happy to ever bring her around. She very much was a giant burden that wouldn’t leave her alone. I don’t really blame him, because to have somebody in your life like that, it’s just absolutely irritating. I don’t know what it's like personally, but I can only imagine. So other than that, I don’t know much in-depth to say about his mother.

SG: Man, that’s just craziness dude.

HS: Right.

SG: I mean...so what was his relationship with Skye like? That’s one that everybody wants to know...whatever they can know about it, that is.

HS: As I’ve said a couple times already, some of this information’s going to be secondhand because it was told to me from people that knew them better than I ever knew. But I’ll let you know when I’m getting into that. What I do know is that they met around 2000-2001. They started dating when I was going to high school with them, and I know that she had no idea of any of the troubles he’d gotten into with girls. Up until they started dating, she didn’t know about any of the trouble he was causing for himself between other students. It was like none of that ever happened. He never bothered to talk to her about it. He never bothered to talk to anyone about it. It was like he just deleted it from his life from ever having happened. Overnight they started dating and he was a completely different person. And for a while, it was alright. They were actually a pretty balanced couple. He seemed to be a lot more even keel than he ever was - he wasn’t having mood swings. Between thinking he was better than everybody else and thinking that he should be depressed when people didn’t understand he was better than everybody else. He was relatively normal. But that didn’t last very long at all. After a while, he started settling more into this online stuff, and you discovered him doing, he got very buried in that and I don’t know much about that to be honest. This was, like I said earlier, around the time I was prepping for college, prepping for finals, all that. And he was really getting more hardcore around that time so I don’t know much about the online stuff. Other than that, he was getting very much buried into it - he was going off the deep end again. But the more he got buried in that, the more he reverted back into how he used to be. He was high and mighty over everyone, he was superior to everyone again. No one liked the fact that he was very manipulative at this point in his life. He had been slightly manipulative - slightly. He liked to have some hold of power over people. He would ask around for other people about people he didn’t like to find things about their personal lives out, and then have some ammunition against them, small stuff like this. But when he got with Skye, that was something that never went well with me because after a while we saw less and less of her, we heard less and less from her, and near the end of my high school years I don’t remember ever talking too much with her at all. She just disappeared cus she was always hanging onto him. Even at that age, I knew that was never a good sign, I knew that that’s one of the many signs of an abusive relationship. I didn’t report it; I didn’t have the energy to care. What I’ve been told from by other people is that, during this time - these were secondhand information so I can’t confirm - I can’t confirm but I’m not doubting what I’ve been told what I’m stating here - that he had taken her under his wing, and she had recently disappeared off the face of the earth to friends and family but he didn’t want her around - I guess - after all the things he had done to other people, he was afraid that she was the one to get away so he had taken her away himself. And, if that is how things indeed went down, that’s absolutely disgusting. I know a lot of friends that she used to have in high school just say they didn’t hear from her anymore so they lost contact. I wanted to get to know her better as a person because I knew she was a very nice person, she was very quiet. After he came along, she just disappeared - absolutely disappeared. Now, watching your videos and watching many other people’s videos...agh...I can’t...this is my personal statement on this so...yeah...apologies for being long winded. I’m absolutely disgusted by what he did to her. That was the most out of left field thing I think I’ve ever, ever witnessed in regards to Greg. He was in so much head over heels love for this girl while we were all going to school together, talking about getting married, talking about having a life together, all of that. A lot of people don’t realistically talk about those things when they are in school, but he was really in love with this girl. To see him have left her for a younger girl, still in her teens, and to react the way he did to divorcing her – it was his choice to divorce her – I’m at a loss for words. I mean, in the years since I went to school with this fucktard, I would have never thought in a million years, like her of all people he’d do this to..
Now I know also, he did cheat on her, and he got caught.  Because the girl that he had done this to her with found out that he was in a relationship, went over his head, told her, and he didn’t know what to do. He freaked out, started crying, bawling, begging to get her back. Then he started denying it and saying it never happened. This was a girl, she said, was his absolute best friend one moment, and absolute trashy whore who started taking drugs, who started messing up her life with all of the weird things that go against his moral code. Yes, yes. That girl. That’s who he decided to screw around on his future wife with. And I think that is what forever put a dent in their relationship, he never stopped doing that. Even a girl like her could not stop him from doing that.

SG: That’s fuckin’ sick.

HS: It is. But I never thought in a million years he’d be so emotionally callous. He was going down the drain, she was holding in the gutter, but he would be so emotionally callous as to throw her to the curb. I mean -

SG: That’s just mind-blowing man, I mean, I almost don’t have words for it -

HS: And after what he did…

SG:  Yeah, cause yesterday in the thread you said that he actually – bombshell here – has two kids, not just one kid, that he lied about having one kid.

HS: That is again part of the secondhand information, but who I was told that from, (I’m not gonna bring their name in here) I believe them. I believe it to be true. I believe that is absolutely true.

SG: Ho-ly fucking shit.

HS: Exactly.

SG: But he has more than one kid.

HS: Yes. I believe that is absolutely true, that he will never tell his wife about it. And I don’t think that the girl he is married to now has any comprehension or perception of the man that she is married to.

SG: You’re talking about Lainey.

HS: At all.

SG: Yeah.

HS: In the years since we all went to school together, nothing has changed much about this guy. He’s just gotten significantly worse… and worse, and worse. and worse. Things that were just small annoyances have now blown up into very large unmanaged problems for him, very obviously. Things that were already large and unmanaged problems about his personality now literally define who he is as a person. That girl that he’s married to, even though they have no chemistry in the relationship - and it’s very obvious to me – she still has no idea what she’s gotten into. She has no idea how badly she’s been lied to, and it’s just – it’s heartbreaking. It’s heartbreaking. I don’t even know this person, and I feel bad for them, that they’re in this position, because they don’t deserve to be in that position. You understand?

SG: Yeah, I totally understand what you mean by that. I mean, the whole thing is just a clusterfuck – it’s a complete mess, y’know. I know that you only knew those people in high school, like Gerg and the gang, but I mean, what is your take on him as of today? Now there are a lot more issues, cause like I said, you know, I know you’re strapped for time, but I think the last thing we’ll cover here is: what is your take on how he is now? Compared to then? Because obviously you just stated you think he’s gotten a lot, lot worse.

HS: Honestly I just want to punch him straight in the face for what he’s done to people. I think the most disgusting part of his character today is that he’ll play off everything I’m saying to you and to the audience you’re gonna put this out to, is just, that it’s nonsense, he’ll disavow all of it, and they’ll believe him because he has millions of people that watch his videos. You know this is just a grand version of what he would do back in highschool. As opposed to saying “I have problems, I did some messed up things” he’ll say “I don’t have problems, I don’t do messed up things. None of this is true.” You’ve had your fair share of people bringing up things from your past, I’ve seen a couple of your videos in the last few days? He’ll never do what you have done, ever. I think that’s the most telling part of his personality. That is the most significant part of him as a person anyone needs to know anything about to understand who Greg always has been and always will be. He’s a coward. Watching him so easily be alright with making himself a role model to hundreds of thousands of children out there, teenagers are frankly still children. Some of these kids, my son and my daughter, are going to be the same age as these kids that watch him right now and they.. and it breaks my heart that a lot of these kids are gonna think ‘that is how I should be in life. I should be someone that judges other people, who I don’t know, for things that aren’t any of my business.’ It’s disgusting! It’s absolutely disgusting. He used to do it in highschool, he still does it as an adult. He has not grown one bit, my thoughts on him now are that he’s going to repeat this cycle forever and ever and ever and ever and ever! He needs less someone he can take care of and control, and more someone to take care of him and control him. Back in school he couldn’t even handle the smallest of responsibilities, he was always turning work in late, he.. what I said on the thread last night; he had two dogs die of malnourishment under his care and when people at school found out about this he acted like it was somehow the dog’s fault. You of all people know full well what he did to that turtle. How can he be expected ever to be a role model for people? If he can’t take care of things like this? It’s just a giant facade and I’m disgusted by it, my opinion is that he’s never changed since highschool and he never will. I know that I told you at the beginning of this interview we weren’t going to talk about anything personal, but I’ll just say this; I went to college. I got a degree in business. I got a degree in informational technology, I studied computer engineering. I own my own business, I own my own house. I have a wife and two wonderful, wonderful children. This guy has made a career off doing nothing and going nowhere in his life. Two weeks from now, I’m going to be visiting the south of france with my family. He’ll never get out of his little spot in washington. He’ll never travel anywhere, he’ll never go anywhere, he’ll never do anything, he’ll live a sedentary existence on the internet because he’s always always going to be afraid of growing up out of highschool. I know he said in a video he claimed to have went to college - he never did.. ever. He got out of highschool; if memory serves he went into the airforce for a little bit and that’s when I just completely lost all contact, and he went off my radar. It’s obvious he’d never did anything with his life than that. And it’s embarrassing. That’s a role model. That’s what it takes to be a role model these days.


SG: Is this the reason that you decided to come out with all of this information on him in the first place, man?

HS: Yes.

SG: Really, so. I mean, you’ve been holding onto this for a long time.

HS: Because the kids only have this kind of stuff left to look up to. My children would never, ever be allowed to watch something like this. Allowed to watch somebody that’s going to play with their… that’s going to mess with their minds to make them think they’re a bad person for being who they are.

SG: I don’t blame you. I don’t blame you in the least.

HS: No one has the right to make anyone feel that way. No one. And I know you’ve stated this in a lot more of a colourful way, but you’re right. And it’s true.

SG: Absolutely. I completely agree with you.

HS: And that’s why I couldn’t hold onto this. I couldn’t sit there and be okay with... with this. But it, I mean, it’s disgusting to me. His entire… what he’s doing with his life now, how he has created the world for himself now is disgusting to me. Anyway, I need to wrap this interview with you up. So...

SG: Uh hey yeah man, that’s pretty cool dude. That’s totally fine if you have to go. So...

HS:Okay. Well thank you for giving me a platform to talk about all of this on, and perhaps we can do this a little more in depth.

SG: Yeah, totally.

HS:Of course, of course.

SG: Y’know, I mean, thank you for coming on and doing this. You totally didn’t have to, but thank you for doing the interview for me. And just let the audience know your name again, just one more time

HS:My name is Michael.

SG: Thank you Michael, for showing up and talking about all of this with me. It’s been a pleasure having you on here and uh..

HS: Alright. You take care as well.

SG: Yeah. Thanks man.

HS: Bye

SG: Bye-bye.