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Crash Override Network - Relationship with Journalists

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  1. [31/12/2014, 6:04:15 AM] drinternetphd: the boston magazine reporter who asked me to talk about my relationship with eron pre-gg is still going ahead with the story
  2. [31/12/2014, 6:04:17 AM] Dina : yep^
  3. [31/12/2014, 6:04:21 AM] drinternetphd: despite being told not to multiple times
  4. [31/12/2014, 6:04:29 AM] Dina : wtf?
  5. [31/12/2014, 6:04:29 AM] drinternetphd: and has already interviewed eron
  6. [31/12/2014, 6:04:36 AM] Dina : WTF
  7. [31/12/2014, 6:04:38 AM] live:riotarms: Ugh
  8. [31/12/2014, 6:05:04 AM] drinternetphd: I am trying to write a response that isn't just "please fuck off forever"
  9. [31/12/2014, 6:05:24 AM] drinternetphd: can y'all give me some advice? I can copypaste the correspondence
  10. [31/12/2014, 6:05:26 AM] SF: As always you're put in a position where you're forced to be a saint when you shouldn't have to be..
  11. [31/12/2014, 6:05:30 AM] live:riotarms: The Internet has given people some bizzare and harmful ideas about privacy :/
  12. [31/12/2014, 6:05:40 AM] drinternetphd: spam incoming
  13. [31/12/2014, 6:05:41 AM] Charloppe: chloe ending up in the er is apparently faking suicide
  14. [31/12/2014, 6:05:48 AM] drinternetphd: his first email: Dear Ms. Quinn,
  15.  
  16. I am writing a story on your former relationship with Eron Gjoni for a coming issue of Boston Magazine.
  17.  
  18. This will not focus on the savage attacks against you and others after Gjoni published his blog, but rather will document the relationship up to the point when Gjoni decided to publish. Are you willing and available for an interview sometime in the next week to share your account of the relationship?
  19.  
  20. Thank you very much. Please let me know if you have any questions.
  21.  
  22. Best,
  23.  
  24. Zak
  25. [31/12/2014, 6:05:48 AM] Charloppe: I am filled with so much hate right now
  26. [31/12/2014, 6:06:01 AM] SF: That's TB's kind of reasoning.
  27. [31/12/2014, 6:06:05 AM] drinternetphd: my response:
  28.  
  29. Hi Zak, thanks for contacting me.
  30.  
  31. As you may have discovered in your research, I am currently not willing nor able to discuss any details of my personal life, for fear that any such published information invariably puts me in danger of further attacks by Gamergate, regardless of their veracity or slant. This is, sadly, the reality of the situation, and I am looking out for my personal safety when I say this. Beyond that, I honestly feel that I am entitled to some small semblance of privacy left, and do not think that details of my personal relationships are anyone's business but those involved with them.
  32.  
  33. You may also know that my ex, Eron Gjoni, is currently under a restraining order from the Boston Municipal Court, the provisions of which dictate that he is unable to discuss my personal life, past or present, in any published form. This has been issued due to the clear danger any such airing of personal information about me places me in.
  34.  
  35. Please let me know if you have any further questions.
  36. [31/12/2014, 6:06:26 AM] drinternetphd: His response:
  37.  
  38. Thanks very much, Zoe. That would have been my response as well.
  39.  
  40. I'll let you know if I have any follow-up questions.
  41.  
  42. Best,
  43.  
  44. Zak
  45. [31/12/2014, 6:06:44 AM] drinternetphd: My response:
  46.  
  47. I am really, really hoping you're not going to run a one-sided story about this with only my abusive ex's account.
  48. [31/12/2014, 6:06:59 AM] drinternetphd: His response:
  49.  
  50. Dear Zoe,
  51.  
  52. I would never write nor publish that. Are you available for a very brief phone conversation to discuss the crux of this story, off the record?
  53.  
  54. Best,
  55.  
  56. Zak
  57. [31/12/2014, 6:07:13 AM] SF: Oh, so he lied.
  58. [31/12/2014, 6:07:16 AM] drinternetphd: My response:
  59.  
  60. That's good to hear.
  61.  
  62. Is there any way we could stick to email instead?
  63. [31/12/2014, 6:07:22 AM] live:riotarms: Barf
  64. [31/12/2014, 6:07:34 AM] drinternetphd: (weeks go by)
  65. [31/12/2014, 6:07:40 AM] David Gallant: Starting to sound sketchy.
  66. [31/12/2014, 6:07:50 AM] drinternetphd: his response:
  67. Dear Zoe,
  68.  
  69. I’m sorry for the delay.
  70.  
  71. The last thing I want this story to be is something that provides attackers with more poison to spew. That was my first question when the editors approached me with the story, and they assured me that all we want to do with Gamergate is include a brief section summarizing the vicious, vile assaults on you and many others.
  72.  
  73. This story will focus on Eron Gjoni’s blog post, and how and why it ignited such savagery. It will feature reflections from as many possible sides and as many possible sources as are willing to speak. I would be very happy to talk to anyone you recommend. And of course the details of your private life you don’t want to reveal are not for the public record. Anything you don’t want to talk about, we wouldn’t talk about. Anything you do, we would.
  74.  
  75. This story will not appear for another three months. As Gamergate continues, the story of its origin has blurred, and never really been visited in depth. I aim to do that in this story, and I can’t get at the truth of it without talking to its first victim.
  76.  
  77. Thank you very much again. Please let me know if you have any questions.
  78.  
  79. Best,
  80.  
  81. Zak
  82. [31/12/2014, 6:07:53 AM] SF: How is the actual nature of your relationship even relevant to what's happened at this point.
  83. [31/12/2014, 6:08:13 AM] drinternetphd: (I didn't respond so he sent me this this morning)
  84. [31/12/2014, 6:08:14 AM] drinternetphd: Dear Zoe,
  85.  
  86. Hope you've been well.
  87.  
  88. I am finished with the reporting of Mr. Gjoni's side of the story. If you, or anyone you would recommend I speak to, are available to talk sometime soon, please let me know. Again, it would be a tremendous help in crafting the full scope of this story if you are available to talk, about anything you'd like, either over the phone, over dinner, coffee, Skype, anything. I know you've suffered immeasurable pain and abuse, and as I've said, I hope that this story will in some small way help alleviate some of that. If you have any time at all for a conversation about your life, your career, your thoughts on the story, I would greatly appreciate it. To give you a sense of the kind of writing I'm interested in, here are a few recent samples: http://zakjason.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Memorial-Days.pdf, http://zakjason.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/fea_schools_madeloni-2.pdf, http://zakjason.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Turning-Point_ZEJ.pdf.
  89.  
  90. Thank you very much.
  91.  
  92. Best,
  93.  
  94. Zak
  95. [31/12/2014, 6:08:44 AM] drinternetphd: currently drafting mine, this is all I have so far:
  96.  
  97. Zak,
  98.  
  99. I'm still pretty disappointed to hear that you're going ahead with the story, especially considering my ex has publicly stated that he won't work with any journalist that doesn't spend multiple paragraphs defaming me (source here: ) and has willfully misrepresented people who have interviewed him in the past (source here: ). It's especially disheartening to read this while I am still not allowed to be home in boston because of the frequency and specificity of the threats made against me. I am not sure how continuing to give my ex a platform to try and ruin my life is somehow meant to alleviate this nightmare, or how asking to revisit the relationship that was incredibly traumatic and abusive towards me is either. I sincerely do not understand your motivations here, or why you are continuing to ask this of me.
  100. [31/12/2014, 6:08:45 AM] SF: So he said "no that's reasonable I agree with you" then came back with an ultimatum.
  101. [31/12/2014, 6:09:10 AM] live:riotarms: By interviewing Gjoni could he be found to be in contempt of court or open to legal action?
  102. [31/12/2014, 6:09:31 AM] drinternetphd: fighting this in court so far has been like pushing rope into a small hole
  103. [31/12/2014, 6:09:46 AM] Charloppe: https://twitter.com/Nibelsnarfabarf/status/550050865592406017 cant believe I have to make this tweet
  104. [31/12/2014, 6:09:47 AM] live:riotarms: Gah, I'm sorry
  105. [31/12/2014, 6:09:52 AM] Charloppe: ppl are so fucking dense
  106. [31/12/2014, 6:10:03 AM] drinternetphd: so I think I am gonna refer him to other women he's harassed
  107. [31/12/2014, 6:10:09 AM] SF: I wonder if citing Gjoni's tumblr post where he talks specifically about journalism being a deliberate smokescreen tactic would be useful.
  108. [31/12/2014, 6:10:54 AM] SF: https://archive.today/OVXNf#selection-49.11-49.113 (that one)
  109. [31/12/2014, 6:11:12 AM] live:riotarms: You could maybe cite the ethical code he's violating (the same one Milo violated)
  110. [31/12/2014, 6:12:14 AM] Dina : um
  111. [31/12/2014, 6:12:26 AM] Dina : I don't think anything would deter this person
  112. [31/12/2014, 6:12:34 AM] live:riotarms: Yeah
  113. [31/12/2014, 6:12:35 AM] Dina : they are clearly reaching for maximum drama
  114. [31/12/2014, 6:12:38 AM] Dina : aka pageviews
  115. [31/12/2014, 6:12:44 AM] drinternetphd: it seems that way
  116. [31/12/2014, 6:12:44 AM] Dina : not a shred of decency
  117. [31/12/2014, 6:12:54 AM] drinternetphd: so now it's about damage control
  118. [31/12/2014, 6:13:04 AM] Dina : Zoe definitely link him to previous exes he abused
  119. [31/12/2014, 6:13:08 AM] Dina : if they're willing to talk
  120. [31/12/2014, 6:13:13 AM] drinternetphd: I'm his second girlfriend
  121. [31/12/2014, 6:13:19 AM] Dina : that's honestly the best option
  122. [31/12/2014, 6:13:27 AM] drinternetphd: I am referring him to other women he's since abused tho
  123. [31/12/2014, 6:13:35 AM] Dina : well the first and I'm sorry you were in a relationship with an abusive shit
  124. [31/12/2014, 6:13:48 AM] Dina : that too
  125. [31/12/2014, 6:14:01 AM] drinternetphd: bleh
  126. [31/12/2014, 6:14:11 AM] drinternetphd: I am gonna go for a walk and clear my head I think
  127. [31/12/2014, 6:14:15 AM] live:riotarms: Who did that Hateful Boyfriend post
  128. [31/12/2014, 6:14:21 AM] SF: Yeah, good idea.
  129. [31/12/2014, 6:14:32 AM] live:riotarms: They'd be a good pick to refute his shit
  130. [31/12/2014, 6:15:28 AM] drinternetphd: yeah I already sent an email asking if she's down
  131. [31/12/2014, 6:15:34 AM] Dina : hugs, Zoe :(
  132. [31/12/2014, 6:15:37 AM] live:riotarms: That's awful though, I'm really sorry these arseholes are doing this to you
  133. [31/12/2014, 6:15:37 AM] drinternetphd: <3
  134. [31/12/2014, 6:15:42 AM] drinternetphd: if anyone thinks of anything please lemme know
  135. [31/12/2014, 6:15:43 AM] Dina : (hug)
  136. [31/12/2014, 6:15:49 AM] Dina : will do
  137. [31/12/2014, 6:16:01 AM] David Gallant: Hugs if you want them, Zoe. This guy is ridiculous.
  138. [31/12/2014, 6:17:53 AM] live:riotarms: Only thing I can think of is if you agree to talk about GG beyond Eron if he's willing to let you make suggestions on his final draft
  139. [31/12/2014, 6:18:50 AM] live:riotarms: That's not really that helpful, sorry
  140. [31/12/2014, 6:31:33 AM] live:riotarms: Fuckin abusers, argh
  141. [31/12/2014, 6:33:34 AM] David Gallant: I didn't know Eron had abused other women.
  142. [31/12/2014, 6:33:37 AM] David Gallant: Goddamnit.
  143. [31/12/2014, 6:35:47 AM] live:riotarms: What upsets me a bit is this is the hill he wants to die on, in his twenties
  144. [31/12/2014, 6:36:31 AM] live:riotarms: Regardless of the cost and ugh this isn't the best place for a third party to weigh in with a hot take
  145. [31/12/2014, 6:38:23 AM] drinternetphd: it continually drives me mad that eron's shit has been totally dropped from the narrative around what GG is
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