<r57shell> guys
<r57shell> maybe I'm really stupid
<r57shell> but
<r57shell> http://tasvideos.org/Movies-Stars.html
<r57shell> why there movies that actually HAVE stars
<r57shell> don't have stars icons?
<Fog_TAS> because you're in the star section?
<Fog_TAS> seems counter intuitive to have a star when you're in the star section
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<r57shell> no
<r57shell> it's counter intuitive to NOT HAVE
<r57shell> star icon for movie that has it
<DwainiumB> Fog_TAS: I just wanted to make a quick test movie  but it just isn't responsive enough
<DwainiumB> I use 5396 anyway, I'll just wait until everything is fixed.
<r57shell> Fog_TAS in hope that it will change something, I'll add example from life
<r57shell> Imagine I have car
<r57shell> and I wanna buy tires
<r57shell> studded wheels
<r57shell> I opening some shop
<r57shell> for tires
<r57shell> then, I adding filter
<r57shell> studded
<r57shell> and SUDDENLY
<r57shell> it returns in results
<r57shell> studded ACTUALLY
<r57shell> but NO info about they are studded
<r57shell> it's just hidded "because it's obvious, you had searching studded"
<r57shell> it makes really big confusion
<r57shell> I would even call support
<r57shell> and say, guys, filter "studded" does not work
<r57shell> and imagine manager
<r57shell> that will tell bs
<r57shell> (bullshit)
<r57shell> "you was searching studded, so info about studded not need, so we removed it in info"
<r57shell> wtf
<r57shell> r u mad?
<r57shell> ok, I can post that all somewhere, if you point where to post that thing
<Zanoab> what extra information could a star icon provide?
<Zanoab> (I agree with you for other reasons though)
<r57shell> I don't need extra info actually
<Zanoab> my problem is when the inverse happens
<r57shell> it needs for consistency
<r57shell> what inverse?
<Zanoab> what if you don't just want to look at star movies?
<r57shell> profile of movie should not depend any condition
<Zanoab> there is no way to tell it is filtered
<r57shell> it should be OBJECTIVE
<r57shell> not SUBJECTIVE
<r57shell> atm, it depends on page where you looking from
<Invariel> There is a way to tell that it's filtered: Filter+ is a link at the top of the page.
<Invariel> And, on top of that, the page that links to Movies-Stars says, "For a list of all currently starred movies,".
<r57shell> as programmer I completely understand current mechanics
<Zanoab> star movies are the primary links in http://tasvideos.org/Movies.html
<r57shell> and how can person detect what was filtered
<Zanoab> *notable
<Invariel> Also that -- Movies by tier -> Stars.
<r57shell> BUT! it's not reason to remove things from movie item
<r57shell> *info
<Invariel> If I could see the template page for how the Stars page is put together, I'd be able to comment (possibly) on the design decision.
<Zanoab> I changed my mind
<Invariel> But I don't seem to be able to.
<r57shell> also
<r57shell> from "information" side
<r57shell> if person starting to ask "what icon does not show"
<r57shell> that means, that he can gain that info
<r57shell> and, conclusion is: that info was removed
<r57shell> that is my answer to question "what extra info could a star icon provide"
<Invariel> The URL of the page includes "Movies-Stars".
<Zanoab> and you can't just get to it by accident without knowing
<r57shell> other example
<r57shell> imagine site that removes actor from actors lists in movies
<r57shell> when you search movies with actor
<r57shell> it's completely mad
<Zanoab> I would want that though
<Zanoab> do you know how many actors are in movies?
<r57shell> but, arguing in that way, you should do that
<r57shell> I know
<r57shell> but this does not reason to remove actor from movie profile depending on filter
<Invariel> So, let's take your example, and change it to what is going on here.
<r57shell> normal site would highlight it
<Invariel> You search up the actors in a given movie, and it gives you a page:  ABugsLife-Actors
<r57shell> as item that you was looking for
<Invariel> And then goes on to list Jerry Seinfeld, etc., etc., etc.
<Zanoab> yes, let's fill profiles with redudant information which is better served for more unique information
<Invariel> You know, from the URL, that everyone listed is going to be an actor in A Bug's Life.
<+TASVideoAgent> New reply by Weatherton (N64gam: Mario Kart 64): http://tasvideos.org/forum/p/422991#422991 [a:1]
<Zanoab> not everybody reads URL (or even understand their purpose)
<r57shell> Zanoab it's not redundant, if you look for movies with Leonardo DiCaprio, and in actors list he is omitted
<r57shell> it makes conclusion, that info is NOT CONSISTENT
<r57shell> not true
<r57shell> info - lies
<r57shell> because he was there
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<r57shell> same with movies info
<r57shell> when it does not show star icon
<r57shell> it simply lies to user
<r57shell> that movie does not have star
<r57shell> because that placeholder
<r57shell> is actually "awards"
<r57shell> placeholder
<r57shell> and when you see that there is no star icon
<r57shell> you making conclusion that it does not have star award
<r57shell> that all
<Invariel> Except that you are on the page dedicated only to those movies that have that award.
<r57shell> thx, I'm stoping complain, because I'm tired to tell reasonable things to those who just don't listen
<r57shell> the end