Harry Potter and the Chamber of Doofus

Locust: I don't get why u boys are so mad over this
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: the pk in and of itself isnt the full issue
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: its the fact that until our conversation earlier nobody had actually given me more than 30 seconds to actually talk about the issue
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: instead i just got gay emoticons from vorti and straight up insults from xari and ignored by every1 else
Locust: cus they don't think you'll take no for an answer
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: as far as the pk itself considering the circumstances around it the fact that nobody seems willing to compromise even a bit even for a solution that would provide more rp and actually give ghost a use outta mancha instead of just
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: 'lets pk'
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: honestly theyre half right but only because i got treated like trash instead of actually getting a discussion out of anyone
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: except u after almost 2 days of pestering
Locust: well your relationship with hc is another matter entirely
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: im well aware that i can be pretty hostile with hc in general but
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: i feel hard done by when i started trying to talk to vorti at least trying to be civil and getting 'its not happening m8' back
Locust: because he's been presented with the arguments and still doesn't think the pk should be revoked
Locust: what more is there for discussion if he just doesnt agree
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: i might not word this well so bear with me but
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: a pretty ironclad precedent was kind of
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: unofficially agreed or set in regards to ghost where
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: malignant captured > interrogated, possibly put to informant work, torture or PId but at the very least they'd actually get some rp from GHOST > released with a warning
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: whereas seemingly just in stefanos case
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: the part about roleplaying and giving him a chance to prove his worth to the cca was skipped over because of
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: some sort of ooc aversion to rping with fuxx? imn really not sure why but
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: its incredibly unfair that 95% of people are treated by one way by GHOST and then stefano was treated a second way
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: in my eyes i think
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: and i get that it doesnt really make sense icly but its a concession that is made for the sake of rp
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: and one that also works both ways
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: to try and condense it down
Locust: im fine with concessions but you can't just give them every time or it gets ridiculous
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: of course not every time
Locust: in regards to why they dont want to rp with fuxx you should at least try to consider why
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: i mean this time specifically because last time was barely ic
Locust: cus i dont think its blind and pointless hatred
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: vorti literally said 'just say you were released and go back'
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: fuxx having only rped with ghost twice i believe in a week
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: right but
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: thats understandable but it still kinda does fuxx dirty
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: because nobody in ghost roleplays with him due to ooc reasons he should recieve a worse fate on his character
Locust: sure and i empathise totally why he might feel annoyed about it
Locust: but i don't think it's related to the PK
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: well
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: from what im piecing together
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: fuxx isnt being given any sort of opportunity to prove himself useful to ghost, be it giving them information or whatever, a chance that is generally offered to captives from my experience
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: due to this ooc factor of ghost simply not rping with fuxx
Locust: yeah but the best way to resolve that is just to try and patch things up
Locust: his rp is very self-absorbed
Locust: i dont blame ghost for not wanting to feel like just a tool in his story
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: thats understandable
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: but if thats the case is there any compromise that can reasonably be reached? so far each option seems to screw either fuxx or GHOST over
Locust: in regards to fuxx working with ghost then the compromise would have to be him patching stuff up with ghost and ghost setting clear boundaries
Locust: but the PK itself goes way beyond ghost
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: right
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: as far as the pk itself who else should i be talking too
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: i assume xari bennet and ace?
Locust: HC and the admin team in general but
Locust: its already been discussed in the admin board and virtually everyone agrees with the PK
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: well
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: im not sure every admin has the full story
Locust: fuxx sent a biblical text to vorti so we have a rough idea
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: not to be offending but you didnt even know that his characters mancha and orpheus were different ones until recently
Locust: sure but im not supporting the pk because i hate fuxx or his rp
Locust: i support the PK because i feel his actions in that RP fully warranted it
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: but surely there are at least some alternatives that are doable?
Locust: like what?
Locust: he's openly the leader of an uprising (which is very dubious for a lot of us to take IC because C8 etc)
Locust: and blatantly threatened to kill HC
Locust: letting him live would be a potential risk to us
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: the c8 stuff is kind of muddy
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: xari has said before that he doesnt consider c8 uprising in its entirety to be canon
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: which is sort of incongruous when basically manchas entire history happened during that event and said history is probably a massive factor
Locust: few of us consider C8 canon
Locust: it's incredibly ridiculous
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: its sort of muddy then because
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: if c8 is not considered canon then
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: mancha has basically zero history thats beyond like
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: even my own character
Locust: im happy to accept that C8 is in japan and suffered from a large rebel insurgency
Locust: but the moment i hear about shit like nexus explosions or rogue overwatch i switch off
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: until
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: youve been in city 8 fighting with the cca that was declared rogue by moses sankoh against a cota outpost
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: you wont even know
Locust: yes it sounds retarded
Locust: obviously its unreasonable to retcon fuxx's entire history
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: right
Locust: but if we accept all that as ic it puts him in a precarious position
Locust: where no one wants to rp with him or they have to accept it as ic
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: for what its worth
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: im not even entirely sure if fuxx rps some of the ridiculous stuff happening
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: are you uh
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: maybe im clutching at straws here but
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: are you saying itd help the process if fuxx didnt rp the parts of his characters backstory from c8 other than just being one of the bigger names in the c8 uprising?
Locust: maybe
Locust: look heres where i (and probably the rest of HC) am at
Locust: i have to create an aura of believability so the CCA  at least has the illusion of being in control so people take the faction seriously instead of doing '/y fuck the combine'
Locust: this is why i have to do things you may not necessarily like such as pking certain people or sending in OW
Locust: i dont really care about fuxx and whether or not he stays dead
Locust: i care about the implications his actions have and whether they delegitimize the faction
Locust: someone breaking into the CA's office alone makes us look grossly incompetent
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: he didnt break in you know
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: he was invited in by lawrence
Locust: in that instance im happy to shift some of the blame to lawrence
Locust: because it isnt the first time he succumed to dodgy shit
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: yeah
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: skip: im an informant can u let me out
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: lawrence: sure!
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: even tho she actually is lol
Locust: i mean the situation as i see it is
Locust: fuxx was just doing what he usually does and lawrence allowed him to take it further than he shouldve
Locust: and as a result lawrence got fuxx killed and left because he felt shit about it
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: thats sorta what happened
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: also afaik the roleplay itself was sorta prompted by lawrence anyway
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: something to the tune of him getting bored of being the head CA and wanting interesting stuff to happen
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: and he kinda forced it so that hey mister rebel is here!
Locust: ok
Locust: so now we've identified two situations which are muddied together
Locust: cas being shit and going rogue all the time
Locust: and fuxx being a victim of this
Locust: its difficult to handle with lawrence gone but
Locust: i wouldnt oppose the shit being retconned as long as fuxx displayed he was willing to compromise and change his behaviour
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: right
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: do you mind if I send this part of the log to him? from the 'look heres where I and HC am at' bit
Locust: sure
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: alright
Locust: if he wants to be an important rebel leader he needs to do so with the understanding that he will be killed if caught
Locust: so he needs to not put himself in situations where he might get caught
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: thats fair enough
Locust: this is just my opinion though
Locust: vorti and bennet obviously have more history with fuxx so i cant speak for them
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: alright
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: i have to go for a few
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: tyvm for your time lad
Locust: np
Locust: peace
Locust is now Away.
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: fuxx asked me to send u this
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: Fuxx: The way it is officially written by the Dave of the Brown himself, the C8 uprising failed. I've RPed it as several of our tacticool shit never happening, meaning that the resistance was in over all far weaker and less equiped and had less numbers, etc. etc.
Fuxx: However given how many people still recognize Stef as being an important figure, I've kept rping the part where he was sort of in charge of stuff
Fuxx: or at least involved with being in charge, as foofighter and zo were kind of leading the whole thing themselves
Fuxx: Stef was mainly someone people just followed along
Fuxx: So I've rped him as being "one of the figureheads of an insurgency in c8 which is tokyo" yes
Fuxx: but not more
Fuxx: Officially, there were no nukes involved, Patriot Bay didn't get raided and a ton of overall rebel accomplishments that Stef was a part of didn't happen
Fuxx: He was back then the equivalent of what Globe is right now, except back then it was uprising period and now it's not-uprising period
Locust is now Online.
Locust: what about stuff you mentioned like hijacking APCs etc
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: i suppose that was voided as part of it too
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: i really wasnt aware of what was and wasnt
Locust: OK. I don't mind too much then but he needs to admit the situation with Lawrence was idiotic. And still Bennet has the ultimate say
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: Fuxx: I already admitted that when DK asked of it
Fuxx: Ofc the situation was sketchy and strange
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: and obviously in hindsight
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: that really shouldve been kept to sf if done at all
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: right
Fuxx: I usually dislike sfrp unless the two chars already know each other
Fuxx: but given the context of the situation
Fuxx: and it's purpose
Fuxx: yea it's right
Locust: even in private it's dumb though. I'm willing to accept Lawrence is also at fault but its still dumb
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: yeah naturally
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: can i ask u somethin
Locust: sure
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: im kinda
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: i guess not pissed off but
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: i kinda feel like me specifically trying to make the same argument to bennet as i did to you might be doomed from the start
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: would it be too much to ask for you to make my case for me here
Locust: well thats because your relationship with HC is pretty awful, you've been civil so I'm happy to tell him you're being mature about it
when her ℬℴ ℯℎ game is strong: alright ty