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  1. Roger Ver, [Nov 2, 2016, 12:18 PM]:
  2. Anyhow, if you don't want to earn more money by using my pool, feel free to use a different pool. I'm not going to force you or anyone else to do anything. (Unlike venezuelan politicians)
  3.  
  4. David López, [Nov 2, 2016, 12:18 PM]:
  5. because you cant dude..
  6.  
  7. Roger Ver, [Nov 2, 2016, 12:19 PM]:
  8. duh...
  9.  
  10. David López, [Nov 2, 2016, 12:19 PM]:
  11. and also you cant pay more than other pools.
  12.  
  13. Roger Ver, [Nov 2, 2016, 12:19 PM]:
  14. I can, and do.
  15.  
  16. Try it for yourself.
  17.  
  18. David López, [Nov 2, 2016, 12:19 PM]:
  19. and if you tell otherwise, you are trying to fool people.
  20.  
  21. and thats not honest.
  22.  
  23. Roger Ver, [Nov 2, 2016, 12:20 PM]:
  24. try it for yourself and report back here.
  25.  
  26. David López, [Nov 2, 2016, 12:20 PM]:
  27. you cant pay more dude, thats absurde, only if you are buying hashrate you can pay more.
  28.  
  29. Roger Ver, [Nov 2, 2016, 12:20 PM]:
  30. If I wanted to, I could pay double what every other pool pays without buying any hash rate at all.
  31.  
  32. David López, [Nov 2, 2016, 12:20 PM]:
  33. Will not, will not try and will fought you back so the Venezuelan miners know the truth.
  34.  
  35. Roger Ver, [Nov 2, 2016, 12:21 PM]:
  36. OK David, thank you for your time.
  37.  
  38. David López, [Nov 2, 2016, 12:21 PM]:
  39. bullshit Roger.
  40.  
  41. Roger Ver, [Nov 2, 2016, 12:21 PM]:
  42. You are either bad at logic, bad at math, or both.
  43.  
  44. David López, [Nov 2, 2016, 12:22 PM]:
  45. its just variance.
  46.  
  47. you are bad logic and bad math Roger
  48.  
  49. And you know you are lying
  50.  
  51. why do you try lo lie to us?
  52.  
  53. Roger Ver, [Nov 2, 2016, 12:23 PM]:
  54. Thank you for calling me a liar. I'm not a liar and I think our discussion is done.
  55.  
  56. David López, [Nov 2, 2016, 12:23 PM]:
  57. its not.
  58.  
  59. you called me a lier also Roger
  60.  
  61. Saying you can pay DOUBLE what the otrher pools pay
  62.  
  63. and you know that thats bullshit
  64.  
  65. Roger Ver, [Nov 2, 2016, 12:24 PM]:
  66. I can.
  67.  
  68. Are you that bad at logic and math to not understand that?
  69.  
  70. David López, [Nov 2, 2016, 12:24 PM]:
  71. do it, prove it
  72.  
  73. I do understand Roger, if you can do that.. why aren you doing it already..
  74.  
  75. Roger Ver, [Nov 2, 2016, 12:25 PM]:
  76. The pool mines 12.5 BTC per block, I add 12.5 BTC of my own Bitcoins per block mined to the payout. Now the pool pays out 25BTC per block without buying any hash rate. There is your proof.
  77.  
  78. IT would be very easy to do.
  79.  
  80. I could even pay tripple if I wanted to.
  81.  
  82. David López, [Nov 2, 2016, 12:25 PM]:
  83. so you are buying hashrate!!!!
  84.  
  85. Roger Ver, [Nov 2, 2016, 12:25 PM]:
  86. NO
  87.  
  88. I'd be buying extra bitcoins.
  89.  
  90. David López, [Nov 2, 2016, 12:26 PM]:
  91. you are giving your money to other, and they give you back hashing power votes.
  92.  
  93. Thats buying Roger.
  94.  
  95. here and in choinaaa
  96.  
  97. Roger Ver, [Nov 2, 2016, 12:26 PM]:
  98. Anyhow, here is the exact quote from the miner on our pool with about 20P
  99.  
  100. Average payout for (other pool) was .226BTC per day,
  101. Exact same machines switched over to bitcoin.com
  102.  
  103. Average payout on bitcoin.com when averaged for a week was .245.
  104.  
  105. The pool when down a few times or it would have been 10% higher, but at any rate bitcoin.com is clearly more advantageous.
  106.  
  107. David López, [Nov 2, 2016, 12:28 PM]:
  108. its not, it is the same as everyother pool, like slush or kano
  109.  
  110. anything else is variance, or you are buying hashrate
  111.  
  112. Roger Ver, [Nov 2, 2016, 12:29 PM]:
  113. 8% doesn't sound like variance to me.
  114.  
  115. And it was averaged over a whole week of time, with the exact same machines on each pool.
  116.  
  117. David López, [Nov 2, 2016, 12:30 PM]:
  118. then what it is if not variance? MAGIC????
  119.  
  120. MAGIC or you are expending money to get more hashrate on your pool.
  121.  
  122. Roger Ver, [Nov 2, 2016, 12:30 PM]:
  123. Or the other pool was under reporting the hash rate....
  124.  
  125. David López, [Nov 2, 2016, 12:30 PM]:
  126. BU uses the same code as CORE! the sameeee
  127.  
  128. Roger Ver, [Nov 2, 2016, 12:30 PM]:
  129. They have an incentive to do that, because it means they are keeping that extra 8%
  130.  
  131. If it is the same, then you have nothing to complain about.
  132.  
  133. David López, [Nov 2, 2016, 12:31 PM]:
  134. Kano is from the developers of CGMINER
  135.  
  136. and you say your pool will do better.. HOW??
  137.  
  138. Roger Ver, [Nov 2, 2016, 12:31 PM]:
  139. Any how, if you think I'm a liar, you are wasting your time asking me questions.
  140.  
  141. We are using Kano's CK Pool software for our pool too
  142.  
  143. David López, [Nov 2, 2016, 12:32 PM]:
  144. im not, i always like reconfirmation
  145.  
  146. So you are just a clone of KANO?
  147.  
  148. how can you pay more than kano? no you cant, its just variance
  149.  
  150. Roger Ver, [Nov 2, 2016, 12:33 PM]:
  151. I'm not trying to call the other pool a liar or a cheater, but intentionaly or not, it sure looks that way. 8% more payout averaged over a whole week isn't variance.
  152.  
  153. David López, [Nov 2, 2016, 12:33 PM]:
  154. you did!!!
  155.  
  156. you talk like a bad politician Roger
  157.  
  158. Roger Ver, [Nov 2, 2016, 12:34 PM]:
  159. Yes, but it isn't my intent to start a fight with any other pool operators.
  160.  
  161. You can solve this question for yourself very easy with science.
  162.  
  163. Test both pools, and report your findings back here.
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