7:43 AM - Highwon: Are you flipping kididng me/
8:09 AM - Zikeji: No
8:09 AM - Highwon: Dude you are a piece of shit
8:10 AM - Highwon: let me make some things clear to you
8:10 AM - Highwon: first of all im on fuckin vacation in France
8:10 AM - Highwon: ive had nothing but shitty wifi the past 2 weeks tryign to deal with this shit
8:10 AM - Highwon: you're really going to question my decision, when I had those 3 people lie to my face
8:10 AM - Highwon: they fucking lied to me
8:11 AM - Highwon: I dont want liars on my fucking team
8:11 AM - Highwon: rule breakers
8:10 AM - Zikeji: It wasn't about those 3. I'd be happy to see your evidence. It was about the rule. The Skype rule
8:11 AM - Highwon: yea
8:11 AM - Highwon: dont worry about that rule
8:11 AM - Highwon: im shutting down serious ttt
8:11 AM - Highwon: im done with all this shit
8:11 AM - Highwon: I get constant shit from skype
8:11 AM - Highwon: complaints
8:11 AM - Highwon: then I ban it
8:11 AM - Highwon: and i get even more shit
8:11 AM - Highwon: u know what
8:11 AM - Highwon: I make 6 figures doing my job
8:11 AM - Highwon: the amount of time I spend on this community
8:11 AM - Highwon: I dont get shit out of it
8:11 AM - Highwon: fuck that
8:12 AM - Highwon: ill go do something constructive
8:12 AM - Highwon: u guys deal with other shitty abusive admin communities
8:12 AM - Highwon: IM DONE
8:12 AM - Zikeji: Take a moment to calm down and think things over. While that logic is sound and very similar to mine, 3 / 4 is not a majority.
8:12 AM - Highwon: i have thought it over
8:13 AM - Highwon: the last couple of days
8:13 AM - Highwon: i have been nothing but an inconvenience to my gf
8:13 AM - Highwon: we were in Paris
8:13 AM - Highwon: and I was trying to find wifi to deal with this shit
8:13 AM - Highwon: I sat in a gas station on the border of belgium and france
8:13 AM - Highwon: to talk to competer
8:13 AM - Highwon: to talk him out of resigning to hold this community together
8:13 AM - Highwon: but nobody gives a shit about my decisions
8:13 AM - Highwon: about my efforts for thsi community
8:14 AM - Highwon: MY FUCKING GF HAD TO SIT IN THAT SAME GAS STATION WHILE I DEALT WITH THE COMMUNITIES SHIT
8:14 AM - Highwon: what do I get in return?
8:14 AM - Highwon: a bunch of little cry babies?
8:14 AM - Highwon: OMG U BANNED MY SKYPES?
8:14 AM - Highwon: Fuck you all
8:14 AM - Zikeji: We didn't tell you to stick around while on vacation. It sounds lke your vacation should be fun, why did you decide to burden yourself while on the vacation?
8:15 AM - Highwon: Because im the fucking owner
8:15 AM - Highwon: and I had to deal with it
8:15 AM - Highwon: but it made me realize
8:15 AM - Highwon: I dont have to be the owner
8:15 AM - Highwon: u guys want the three lying pieces of shit back>
8:15 AM - Highwon: be my guest
8:15 AM - Highwon: but im out
8:15 AM - Zikeji: Dude. That wasn't what it was about.
8:16 AM - Zikeji: What do you mean the whole community in uproar?
8:16 AM - Highwon: im getting constant shit from every direction
8:16 AM - Highwon: now even my lead admins are suggesting we reverse this ban
8:17 AM - Highwon: because of these cry babies
8:17 AM - Zikeji: Two of us, spent 5 hours talking with the lead admins over TS3 on the Skype ban
8:17 AM - Zikeji: They have good points to bring to you
8:18 AM - Highwon: im tired of hearing it at this point
8:18 AM - Highwon: I could do much better things with my time
8:19 AM - Highwon: not using Skype in a group setting is not a HUGE deal
8:19 AM - Highwon: the amount of SHIT that pours out of skyppe
8:19 AM - Highwon: in the long run would have benefited the community
8:20 AM - Highwon: they could have the same group chats in TeamSpeak, which I provided for them to use
8:20 AM - Highwon: but it just goes to show how toxic this community is
8:20 AM - Highwon: they complain for the sake of complaining
8:20 AM - Highwon: it doesnt really matter
8:20 AM - Highwon: If we allowed cursing
8:20 AM - Highwon: and I banned cursing
8:20 AM - Highwon: same shit wouldve happened
8:21 AM - Highwon: the community just wants to make a big deal out of things
8:24 AM - Zikeji: That's just people in general dude. I resigned because I didn't agree with the rule and how it was being enforced. I didn't resign from the whole community, just from the position. I intended to stay around, but just as a normal user so I could still use Skype. But then Slicck talked me into staying a little longer till he could find a replacement.
8:26 AM - Highwon: I had more faith in you
8:26 AM - Highwon: you told me you were staying for a longer period of time
8:26 AM - Zikeji: And then the day after you pulled that rule on me
8:26 AM - Zikeji: And I disagreed with it from the start
8:26 AM - Highwon: do you even use Skype?
8:26 AM - Zikeji: Not really. But when I do, I want to be able to
8:26 AM - Zikeji: Like my examples I gave Slicck and Event
8:27 AM - Highwon: I also dont allow my staff to RDM on other servers
8:27 AM - Highwon: am I controlling their gameplay outside of the community too much?
8:27 AM - Zikeji: That is in the interest of the community's image.
8:28 AM - Highwon: every rule I put is for the communities best interest
8:28 AM - Highwon: I didnt ban skype because I have personal feelings against it
8:28 AM - Highwon: Skype should have been banned once op666 happened
8:29 AM - Highwon: its the toxicity that pours out of those groups
8:29 AM - Highwon: and that our staff are in them and get influenced
8:28 AM - Zikeji: That shit happens regardless of if they use Skype or not
8:29 AM - Highwon: Skype is prominent
8:29 AM - Highwon: you know Skip was in most of those skype groups
8:29 AM - Highwon: Skip is known to recruit members of our community for other communities
8:29 AM - Zikeji: I was never in those Skype groups and rankly didn't care for them. That's why I said the rule needed to be more fleshed out. I.E. temporary groups only
8:30 AM - Highwon: of course he does it on steam too but imagine the effect on skype?
8:30 AM - Highwon: I mean its easier to just get rid of it
8:30 AM - Highwon: I dont even know why im explaining this to u
8:30 AM - Highwon: it doesnt matter at this point
8:30 AM - Highwon: but that was  a really stupid move on your part
8:30 AM - Highwon: im seroiusly offended by it
8:30 AM - Zikeji: What? Resigning?
8:31 AM - Highwon: yea
8:31 AM - Zikeji: I'm the only one who resigned. I didn't take anyone with me. I had 3 staff tell me they wanted to follow and I told them not to.
8:31 AM - Zikeji: But I told you I disagreed with the rule and gave you plausible solutions
8:32 AM - Highwon: The reason you were made admin was to show that our community was going to be doing good even with all the resignations
8:32 AM - Highwon: you resigning was even more hurtful than their resignations
8:32 AM - Highwon: to the community
8:32 AM - Highwon: much more damaging
8:34 AM - Zikeji: I wouldn't think it'd be that hurtful? Didn't see much backlash on the forum. I never had a big presence
8:35 AM - Highwon: You think you didnt
8:35 AM - Highwon: but I had people message me the day you were promoted
8:35 AM - Highwon: about what a great move that was
8:35 AM - Highwon: as it will increase morale
8:35 AM - Highwon: but you know, again one of those things that only the owner of a community gets to see
8:35 AM - Highwon: I just want to play on a good server and thats that
8:36 AM - Highwon: fuck running one and dealing with all its drama
8:36 AM - Highwon: I could probably make some money selling scripts on coderhire
8:36 AM - Highwon: yea thats a good idea
8:36 AM - Zikeji: Why do you think I never created a community. It takes certain type of people to run one. And you've done it well. You just can't let  shit talking get to you. That happens everyone in most every type of community in any shape and form.
8:37 AM - Highwon: the question is
8:37 AM - Highwon: what do I gain from running this community
8:37 AM - Highwon: besides the fact this whole issue is ruining my vacation
8:37 AM - Highwon: VACATION that is paid for by my JOB
8:38 AM - Highwon: the more I think about it
8:38 AM - Highwon: the more I say fuck this community
8:38 AM - Zikeji: You can't really explain what you get from the community. I myself don't know what draws me to a community. Or what draws normal staff. No one get's paid, the only person who get's a slight version of paid is you.
8:39 AM - Highwon: yea expect I leave all the money in the paypal
8:39 AM - Highwon: so it can pay for the server costs
8:39 AM - Highwon: if I was smart I shouldve just pocketed that cash
8:40 AM - Highwon: its funny I always hear of owners doing that
8:40 AM - Highwon: after a year, take all the money and leave
8:40 AM - Highwon: and I thought it was such a scumbag move
8:40 AM - Highwon: at this point, it seems they were the smart ones
8:40 AM - Highwon: and Im the dumbass here
8:41 AM - Highwon: i should just hand off the community to Angelx, see how people like that, all these cry babies would get permabanned in a matter of a second.
8:40 AM - Zikeji: They aren't the smart ones. If they start a community and pour enough into it to get a bunch of donations only to suddenly leave and take everything? That's like pennies to the hours of effort
8:42 AM - Highwon: btw i kept my vacation a secret
8:42 AM - Highwon: so malicious users wouldnt use it to their advantage
8:42 AM - Highwon: as in DoSing it to shit and I couldnt do anything about it
8:42 AM - Highwon: but now it will be common knowledge
8:42 AM - Highwon: as I had to come out with it
8:42 AM - Highwon: so if server gets hit
8:42 AM - Highwon: good luck
8:42 AM - Highwon: lol
8:43 AM - Highwon: Actually Ill give the controls over to all these cry babies
8:43 AM - Highwon: and see if they are able to deal with it
8:43 AM - Highwon: But nooooo i demoted GREAT staff, how about a GREAT FUCKING OWNER who spent sleepness NIGHTS developing a fix for the attack that kept us down for a week?
8:43 AM - Highwon: I had to drive an hour to my friends house and I would sit til 4 am and drive an hour back home
8:44 AM - Highwon: just so I could get ready for work
8:44 AM - Highwon: all in order to get the servers back up from the DoS attack
8:44 AM - Highwon: but nooooo vodka got demoted? emo tears
8:44 AM - Highwon: FUCK YOU ALL
8:44 AM - Zikeji: Are they even really complaining about those three? Just show them the evidence
8:44 AM - Highwon: fuck vodka and her fucking lying selfish piece of shit personality
8:44 AM - Highwon: I should permaban her and all her stupid fucking little friends
8:45 AM - Zikeji: But seriously, before you do anything to the community if you're going to say "fuck it", just say "fuck it" and close everything related to the community. Put the community on the backburner for the remainder of your vacation. Worry about it when you get home. If shit hits the fan while you're gone then it happens - I trust Slicck and Event to keep it under control
8:46 AM - Highwon: i already posted my resignation in staff discussion
8:45 AM - Zikeji: I saw
8:46 AM - Highwon: i didnt want to give myself time to talk myself out of it
8:47 AM - Zikeji: Anyway, I'll BRB in 45 minutes if you still want to talk.
8:48 AM - Highwon: nah i gotta get going
8:48 AM - Highwon: the wedding is in 2 hours
8:48 AM - Highwon: and im still not ready
8:48 AM - Highwon: fuck
8:48 AM - Highwon: my gf is going to kill me
8:48 AM - Highwon: i promised her we will get there at 1 so she could start getting ready
10:26 AM - Highwon is now Away.
11:07 AM - Zikeji: Oh BTW Slicck and I found out that admins can change the lead admin's password. Might want to fix that
11:09 AM - Highwon is now Offline.