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  1. 22:50:22: <kate-blue> Hi.
  2. 22:50:43: <takov> Rye.
  3. 22:50:46: <takov> Sigh.
  4. 22:50:48: <takov> Dye.
  5. 22:50:49: <takov> Ayy.
  6. 22:50:51: <takov> Lie.
  7. 22:50:53: <takov> Die.
  8. 22:51:04: <Thekillerax> Hi kate
  9. 22:51:05: <kate-blue> ?
  10. 22:51:10: <kate-blue> Hello
  11. 22:51:10: <takov> I felt like being silly.
  12. 22:51:14: <Thekillerax> Takov's being weird
  13. 22:51:18: <kate-blue> Haha
  14. 22:51:23: <kate-blue> I have to admit, I did smile
  15. 22:51:54: <MacMobiLaundry> I can't imagine what it must have been like to have been a first responder to Hiroshima or Nagasaki
  16. 22:52:07: <kate-blue> Can I have some feedback on a draft I wrote?
  17. 22:52:08: <LordStonefish> I'm not feeling too enthused about the SCP i'm writing right now. But I've made so much progress, what should I do?
  18. 22:52:22: <MacMobiLaundry> Lordstonefish: music helps
  19. 22:52:23: <takov> LordStonefish: Just take a break
  20. 22:53:44: <qptain_Nemo> LordStonefish: take a break as Takov said + try to figure what it's missing. this lack of motivation may be you intuitively realizing it doesn't quite hit even your own expectations of what's fun and good
  21. 22:54:21: <MacMobiLaundry> We knew the world would not be the same. A few people laughed, a few people cried. Most people were silent. I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad Gita; Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty and, to impress him, takes on his multi-armed form and says, 'Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.' I suppose we all thought that, one way or another.
  22. 22:54:57: <Dr_Leonard> takes some evil shit to laugh at that
  23. 22:54:58: <MacMobiLaundry> That quote hits me hard for some reason
  24. 22:55:14: <takov> Dr_Leonard: Some people laugh when stressed
  25. 22:55:17: <Dr_Leonard> then again, the same scum brought home the heads of soldiers they'd killed, iirc
  26. 22:55:27: <takov> like, laughing at funerals and shit
  27. 22:55:34: <Dr_Leonard> Takov lol okay
  28. 22:55:48: <MacMobiLaundry> Leo: Iunno, maybe it's the sort of laughter one has when one knows one is fucked
  29. 22:55:59: <takov> Dr_Leonard: "the same scum brought home the heads of soldiers they'd killed" Seriously? These were fucking scientists
  30. 22:56:12: <takov> and many of them were opposed to the bomb being used in the war
  31. 22:56:13: <Dr_Leonard> oh, thought he meant the soldiers
  32. 22:56:18: <MacMobiLaundry> That quote is from Oppenheimer, describing the test
  33. 22:56:31: <kate-blue> I wrote a SCP draft. I have a link if anyone is interested in giving some feedback?
  34. 22:56:52: <takov> Laughs could have also been along the lines of "Daaaaamn....can you believe that?"
  35. 22:57:12: <Dr_Leonard> maybe
  36. 22:57:13: <MacMobiLaundry> Some of the scientists thought they'd ignite the atmosphere and kill everything everywhere in an instant
  37. 22:57:22: <Dr_Leonard> I heard that, yes
  38. 22:57:38: <takov> Oh and Dr_Leonard: http://nsarchive.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB162/61.pdf Here's the (translated) IJA report on the aftermath of Hiroshima
  39. 22:57:49: <LordSolarCommander> Link it, kate.
  40. 22:57:50: <Dr_Leonard> i think there was one theory it'd start a chain reaction that would cause the entire planet to destroy itself, but it wasn't taken seriously or something
  41. 22:58:07: <kate-blue> @LordSolarCommander http://scpsandbox2.wikidot.com/kate-blue
  42. 22:58:13: <MacMobiLaundry> Seeing the much more mundane reaction of the light of 10,000 suns didn't kill everyone, some people might've laughed in relief
  43. 22:58:28: <T-L-G-T-W> Dude, I just beat the shit out of my little brother and his friend in Smash. What are you guys up to?
  44. 22:58:39: <takov> TLGTW: Wow rude
  45. 22:58:45: <takov> I'm calling the cops
  46. 22:59:05: <T-L-G-T-W> Haha! Jokes on you! They're already looking for me!
  47. 22:59:23: <tahugamin> Plot twist; T-L-G-T-W IS the cops all along :V
  48. 22:59:35: <T-L-G-T-W> Yes, I am a plural. Collectively.
  49. 22:59:40: <LordSolarCommander> Already this scip is looking like a "powerful supernatural killer humanoid".
  50. 22:59:43: <LordSolarCommander> Which is hard to do.
  51. 22:59:45: <T-L-G-T-W> That's why I went on and off those couple times.
  52. 22:59:49: <MacMobiLaundry> He traveled to Washington on August 17 to hand-deliver a letter to Secretary of War Henry L. Stimson expressing his revulsion and his wish to see nuclear weapons banned.
  53. 22:59:59: <T-L-G-T-W> Is LordSolar on about the Kate-Blue thing?
  54. 23:00:07: <MacMobiLaundry> From the Wikipedia article on Oppenheimer, at the part describing his reaction to the bomb
  55. 23:00:17: <Dr_Leonard> I remember a hilarious sketch I saw ages ago
  56. 23:00:21: <LordSolarCommander> For the [DATA EXPUNGED] and [REDACTED] you might want to put black boxes instead, they're less intrusive.
  57. 23:00:25: <T-L-G-T-W> I'm lookin' at it, the lack of bold makes me feel really lost.
  58. 23:00:27: <LordSolarCommander> Yes I'm talking about kateblue's thingy.
  59. 23:00:29: <Dr_Leonard> the United Nations decided that there was too much war/famine in the world
  60. 23:00:36: <CumaeanSibyl> Kate-Blue: when you're talking about ownership, the word is "its," not "it's"
  61. 23:00:43: <Dr_Leonard> their solution? they decided to detonate a device that would tear the planet apart
  62. 23:00:52: <LordSolarCommander> Also, bold the words "description", "special containment procedures", and the like.
  63. 23:00:52: <T-L-G-T-W> Install Grammarly for simple mistakes like that.
  64. 23:01:04: <kate-blue> LordSolarCommander It isn't really. It's meant to be very easy to contain. And like I mentioned, it's a /draft/. Editing will need to be done.
  65. 23:01:26: <T-L-G-T-W> The SCP gets a TV?
  66. 23:01:30: <qptain_Nemo> "and anything it requests for " definitely won't work with foundation
  67. 23:01:42: <T-L-G-T-W> And //anything// it requests.
  68. 23:01:46: <T-L-G-T-W> You serious with this?
  69. 23:01:48: <CumaeanSibyl> well, we're telling you what editing needs to be done
  70. 23:01:50: <kate-blue> Like I said, it requires editing.
  71. 23:01:52: <takov> The Foundation is not a hotel.
  72. 23:02:02: <T-L-G-T-W> Oh, shit.
  73. 23:02:02: <takov> Kate-: You could just say "got it" or something
  74. 23:02:05: <T-L-G-T-W> You know what should happen?
  75. 23:02:09: <LordSolarCommander> Really, there's not much here, I'm just reading it as "special human with superpowers and it's bad". To be honest, it seems boring.
  76. 23:02:11: <takov> No, it shouldn't happen.
  77. 23:02:16: <kate-blue> I realise that.
  78. 23:02:18: <famine_> what did the polite naval captain say when his ship blew up
  79. 23:02:18: <MacMobiLaundry> Afk
  80. 23:02:19: <T-L-G-T-W> An SCP that is like, a mint materializing underneath your pillow.
  81. 23:02:37: <kate-blue> And I do 'got it'.
  82. 23:02:37: <CumaeanSibyl> it's not all that "easy to contain" if it likes to go on rampages
  83. 23:02:52: <famine_> frigate
  84. 23:02:59: <LordSolarCommander> It seems like the major supernatural effect it has is "takes fictional characters out of their settings into the real world."
  85. 23:03:00: <T-L-G-T-W> Why would her identification prior to containment have to be deleted?
  86. 23:03:00: <takov> "It has brown hair with a single blue strip in it's fringe" why?
  87. 23:03:09: <kate-blue> I don't mean 'easy to contain' like that. I mean that heavy resources don't have to be wasted for recontainment.
  88. 23:03:11: <T-L-G-T-W> 'Cause it's cool.
  89. 23:03:11: <LordSolarCommander> In which case, you might want to think, "Does this need to be a humanoid"?
  90. 23:03:27: <LordSolarCommander> You should ask yourself if you can have an object that does the same thing.
  91. 23:03:29: <T-L-G-T-W> Yeah, dude.
  92. 23:03:30: <kate-blue> T-L-G-T-W it is
  93. 23:03:30: <LordSolarCommander> Or phenomenon.
  94. 23:03:31: <T-L-G-T-W> Why a humanoid?
  95. 23:03:39: <T-L-G-T-W> Kate-Blue: It isn't.
  96. 23:03:45: <takov> Kate-Blue: We have another SCP that has a voice thing
  97. 23:03:54: <kate-blue> I don't know. It just seemed to fit.
  98. 23:03:59: <takov> We make her wear something and have the guards equipped with audio scrambling headsets
  99. 23:04:00: <kate-blue> Takov We do?
  100. 23:04:00: <T-L-G-T-W> Takov: And that one already does it better.
  101. 23:04:07: <takov> Indeed
  102. 23:04:23: <LordSolarCommander> I'd say the concept could use a lot of thought. You have a few grains of uniqueness but the rest of it seems painfully generic.
  103. 23:04:30: <LordSolarCommander> Sorry.
  104. 23:04:30: <CumaeanSibyl> I think it's !SCP-336
  105. 23:04:31: <takov> Also, we have that one guy who can say "you want to do x" and you will, who's beaten up a lot.
  106. 23:04:34: <Alexandra> CumaeanSibyl: SCP-336 ("Lilith", Originally written by Dr Kondraki, rewritten by Lumancer, Rating:+90) - http://scp-wiki.net/scp-336
  107. 23:04:45: <T-L-G-T-W> Fuck is this? 'Affectionate relationship by calling it... Blue?"
  108. 23:04:50: <T-L-G-T-W> Yo, I'm not accusin'.
  109. 23:04:59: <T-L-G-T-W> This seems terrifyingly like a self-insert.
  110. 23:05:05: <takov> TLGTW's phrasing is slightly rude, but he has a point.
  111. 23:05:09: <CumaeanSibyl> it does, at that
  112. 23:05:09: <kate-blue> No, by conversing with it it personally.
  113. 23:05:19: <takov> "It has also been shown that SCP-XXXX can bring characters from books or comics into reality just by reading a description of them aloud."
  114. 23:05:20: <takov> No.
  115. 23:05:23: <T-L-G-T-W> Why's the girl
  116. 23:05:27: <T-L-G-T-W> 's name Blue?
  117. 23:05:29: <LordSolarCommander> Really TLGTW? I think that line makes sense.
  118. 23:05:37: <T-L-G-T-W> Why's your name Blue?
  119. 23:05:39: <kate-blue> It's lonely and tries to makes 'friends' with staff.
  120. 23:05:42: <CumaeanSibyl> well, the line makes sense, but it's a superpower
  121. 23:05:42: <T-L-G-T-W> The focus is 'Blue'.
  122. 23:05:58: <LordSolarCommander> It could probably be changed to "Personnel are encouraged not to refer to SCP-XXXX by anything but its designation number."
  123. 23:06:01: <takov> Kate-Blue: With an ability like that the Foundation would probably just wipe her consciousness or brainwash her
  124. 23:06:02: <T-L-G-T-W> Why would her hair even be worth mentioning?
  125. 23:06:07: <takov> ^
  126. 23:06:17: <kate-blue> T-L-G-T-W It's a work in progress. I intent on changing it's preferred name.
  127. 23:06:19: <takov> And yes, the Foundation can do that.
  128. 23:06:26: <takov> And has done it.
  129. 23:06:26: <LordSolarCommander> Really though, with what it does, I don't think it needs to be a humanoid.
  130. 23:06:37: <T-L-G-T-W> It shouldn
  131. 23:06:41: <T-L-G-T-W> 't be a humanoid.
  132. 23:06:47: <T-L-G-T-W> Because it's human-ness doesn't add anything.
  133. 23:06:52: <T-L-G-T-W> What would change if it wasn't humanoid?
  134. 23:06:58: <kate-blue> What would you have it be then?
  135. 23:07:12: <LordSolarCommander> It could just as well be an aggressive carrot that brings fictional characters to life.
  136. 23:07:13: <kate-blue> An entitiy of sorts.
  137. 23:07:16: <takov> The whole "bringing people out of fiction" is a bit dangerous
  138. 23:07:17: <T-L-G-T-W> Something alien, monstrous, animalistic, not an edgy teenager.
  139. 23:07:21: <Tuomey> someone pinged me?
  140. 23:07:24: <LordSolarCommander> It would have the same effect.
  141. 23:07:33: <kaktus> Just because something doesn't need to be humanoid, doesn't mean it has to not be humanoid.
  142. 23:07:38: <takov> And like I said, something that the FOundation wouldn't let her do freely
  143. 23:07:48: <T-L-G-T-W> If it's gonna be a humanoid, there has to be some sort of reason.
  144. 23:07:53: <kaktus> T-L-G-T-W: No.
  145. 23:07:53: <LordSolarCommander> I'm not saying that. I'm just saying that it being a human doesn't add to it at all.
  146. 23:07:53: <CumaeanSibyl> I think the real issue is that its powers aren't terribly convincing
  147. 23:07:55: <kaktus> That isn't true.
  148. 23:07:58: <T-L-G-T-W> Yea.
  149. 23:08:02: <kate-blue> Now I have an idea. Not sure if there is another SCP like it. Perhaps the SCP is a book with harmful vocal abilities?
  150. 23:08:02: <LordSolarCommander> And it fact it makes it less good.
  151. 23:08:06: <T-L-G-T-W> It's called Conservation of Detail.
  152. 23:08:18: <takov> TLGTW: What?
  153. 23:08:19: <T-L-G-T-W> Things that are included need to have some impact to what goin' on.
  154. 23:08:25: <takov> No they don't.
  155. 23:08:25: <CumaeanSibyl> Kate-Blue: we have a whole lot of harmful books of various kinds
  156. 23:08:28: <kaktus> No. If you can accomplish something with a humanoid, and you want to, then you do it.
  157. 23:08:30: <famine_> harmful
  158. 23:08:32: <LordSolarCommander> I would try to focus on bringing the fictional characters to life function.
  159. 23:08:35: <famine_> vocal abilities?
  160. 23:08:42: <LordSolarCommander> Find an object or phenomenon that fits with that theme and run with that.
  161. 23:08:45: <kaktus> T-L-G-T-W: That's still not true, and it doesn't even apply here.
  162. 23:08:47: <T-L-G-T-W> An SCP should be humanoid because maybe it used to be a normal bloke.
  163. 23:08:54: <CumaeanSibyl> I don't think we specifically have books that can talk
  164. 23:08:54: <T-L-G-T-W> That should have an impact or something.
  165. 23:08:54: <qptain_Nemo> hmm, is "british descent" actually meaningful?
  166. 23:08:55: <takov> Uh
  167. 23:08:55: <kaktus> That relates to extraneous detail, not where something came from.
  168. 23:08:56: <LordSolarCommander> I've never read a scip that does that, so it's a valid path.
  169. 23:08:57: <CumaeanSibyl> but I could be wrong
  170. 23:09:03: <takov> TLGTW: Not really...
  171. 23:09:10: <takov> We have good humanoids, you know.
  172. 23:09:21: <T-L-G-T-W> When did I say humanoids aren't good?
  173. 23:09:30: <takov> In your mind
  174. 23:09:30: <kaktus> T-L-G-T-W: Not all humanoids are "well this used to be just some guy and now it isn't"
  175. 23:09:36: <T-L-G-T-W> My SCP is a group of humanoids.
  176. 23:09:52: <kate-blue> So, reading all this, are you imply I should rethink it's appearance?
  177. 23:09:54: <CumaeanSibyl> Some of my best friends are humanoidfs
  178. 23:10:00: <takov> I'm going back to the draft.
  179. 23:10:13: <takov> Kate-Blue: Does it need to have the blue streak of hair
  180. 23:10:18: <qptain_Nemo> Kate-Blue: i'd focus on interesting effects tbh. the ones you described didn't grab me at all
  181. 23:10:20: <CumaeanSibyl> Kate-Blue: I think you should move away from the lonely teenage girl
  182. 23:10:22: <CumaeanSibyl> we've already got Iris
  183. 23:10:24: <T-L-G-T-W> Alright, whatever. Humanoids = Neutral.
  184. 23:10:29: <LordSolarCommander> You should really consider rethinking its form, yes.
  185. 23:10:37: <takov> Cumaean: IrisxAble OTP
  186. 23:10:38: <kaktus> ...
  187. 23:10:42: <kate-blue> Then I shall do just that.
  188. 23:10:48: <LordSolarCommander> The object being an angsty teenage girl detracts from my experience and my thoughts of its effects.
  189. 23:10:59: <qptain_Nemo> a lonely teenage girl isn't a great start, but it's secondary imo. the main issue is it's just a mary sue of an scp
  190. 23:10:59: <T-L-G-T-W> Wait... did the Foundation give the SCP hair dye?
  191. 23:11:00: <LordSolarCommander> The concept of its effects, however, are reasonable in a vacuum.
  192. 23:11:11: <CumaeanSibyl> Kate-Blue: how about a middle-aged schoolteacher whose classroom was overrun by children's book characters one day during storytime
  193. 23:11:19: <T-L-G-T-W> It says to not give it anymore hair dye after an 'incident'.
  194. 23:11:22: <takov> Also, the Foundation is not a hotel. I cannot emphasize this enough.
  195. 23:11:30: <T-L-G-T-W> Fuck?
  196. 23:11:37: <takov> Fuck.
  197. 23:11:45: <T-L-G-T-W> Hair dye.
  198. 23:11:48: <T-L-G-T-W> Why the hair dye?
  199. 23:11:51: <CumaeanSibyl> The Foundation has Standard Humanoid Containment
  200. 23:11:52: <takov> If that was a question
  201. 23:11:54: <T-L-G-T-W> What does the hair dye have to do with anything?
  202. 23:11:59: <T-L-G-T-W> Fuck!
  203. 23:12:01: <T-L-G-T-W> Hair dye!
  204. 23:12:05: <CumaeanSibyl> Calm down
  205. 23:12:07: <kaktus> Guys.
  206. 23:12:09: <takov> TLGTW: Calm down, son.
  207. 23:12:12: <kaktus> Jesus christ calm down.
  208. 23:12:23: <kaktus> I swear to god I will kick every single one of you, ffs.
  209. 23:12:23: <T-L-G-T-W> Dude, hair dye is serious business.
  210. 23:12:30: <kaktus> Enough about the hair dye.
  211. 23:12:33: <kaktus> Make a point or get past it.
  212. 23:12:33: <LordSolarCommander> You're coming off a little bit mean, TLGTW.
  213. 23:12:42: <takov> Dude, don't be more of an ass than I am.
  214. 23:12:43: <LordSolarCommander> I think you should relax and be less vitriolic.
  215. 23:12:48: <kaktus> Guys
  216. 23:12:53: <kaktus> please let me do the operating.
  217. 23:13:00: <kaktus> I don't need help.
  218. 23:13:08: <T-L-G-T-W> It mentions that it's 'only' remarkable characteristic is 6 inch nails.
  219. 23:13:12: <LordSolarCommander> I'm just expressing how I feel about the chat.
  220. 23:13:20: <T-L-G-T-W> Yeah, fine, no more cussing.
  221. 23:13:27: <kaktus> T-L-G-T-W: I don't care about swearing.
  222. 23:13:31: <T-L-G-T-W> What?
  223. 23:13:34: <T-L-G-T-W> Then?
  224. 23:13:35: <kate-blue> Look, I realise the whole 'hair dye' thing was a big stupid idea. To be honest, I am finding all this feedback a little overwhelming (not that it is bad, it's all good), but at least I am finding some ground with this thing. I think I have a more solid idea already.
  225. 23:13:37: <kaktus> It's the unnecessary vitriol.
  226. 23:13:48: <T-L-G-T-W> Okay.
  227. 23:13:49: <takov> Kate-Blue: That's good~
  228. 23:14:33: <kate-blue> Are we all calmed down now?
  229. 23:14:34: <T-L-G-T-W> Regardless, the length of someone's nails shouldn't be remarkable. And, human nails are not the best weapons.
  230. 23:14:51: <takov> I'm never calm :P
  231. 23:15:00: <T-L-G-T-W> Have you seen fuckin' nails? They're attached above your fingers.
  232. 23:15:00: famine_ cuts down to the meat
  233. 23:15:04: famine_ razors cuticles
  234. 23:15:07: <LordSolarCommander> Unless the nails have something to do with the anomalous effect.
  235. 23:15:12: <LordSolarCommander> Then the length of nails are important.
  236. 23:15:19: <T-L-G-T-W> It'll hurt like hell.
  237. 23:15:21: <takov> famine: That was a thing in one book
  238. 23:15:28: <T-L-G-T-W> You might even break them off.
  239. 23:15:33: <famine_> im really particular about my hand grooming
  240. 23:15:44: <famine_> please dont tell me it was a serial killer
  241. 23:06 Kate-Blue The nails were a drafted idea because I didn't want it's only ability to be releated to it's voice. I wanted it to have a physical weapon of sorts.
  242. 23:06 T-L-G-T-W What...
  243. 23:07 T-L-G-T-W Why?
  244. 23:07 CumaeanSibyl Kate-Blue: that's more of a superhero thing
  245. 23:07 T-L-G-T-W It's able to bring out characters from fuckin' books! Why would it need nails?
  246. 23:07 LordSolarCommander You should ask yourself why you thought it needs a physical weapon.
  247. 23:07 LordSolarCommander Or, why it needs weapons at all.
  248. 23:07 LordSolarCommander We're not making superheroes.
  249. 23:07 LordSolarCommander We're just making anomalous objects.
  250. 23:07 CumaeanSibyl Our anomalies don't need "abilities" the way an RPG character would
  251. 23:07 *** DrYucatan quit (Client exited) ~DrYucatan@perfect.puppy.girl
  252. 23:07 T-L-G-T-W Sayin' summoning a dragon or something ain't enough for this?
  253. 23:07 CumaeanSibyl in fact, a lot of our humanoid anomalies have really shitty conditions
  254. 23:07 LordSolarCommander They're not all fightin' things.
  255. 23:07 Kate-Blue I suppose, thinking about why I wanted a physical weapon, it wouldn't need them because it would manifest -1 to do that for it.
  256. 23:08 CumaeanSibyl Why would it want to do that?
  257. 23:08 CumaeanSibyl Why does it need to be able to fight any more than, say, I do?
  258. 23:08 T-L-G-T-W Also, this thing is just ridiculously OP.
  259. 23:08 CumaeanSibyl (this is why God made baseball bats)
  260. 23:08 T-L-G-T-W Anything it says, yea?
  261. 23:08 T-L-G-T-W Why don't you just describe some, omnipotence pill?
  262. 23:08 T-L-G-T-W Then eat it.
  263. 23:08 T-L-G-T-W Then win?
  264. 23:08 Takov He has a point
  265. 23:09 CumaeanSibyl Don't let this girl read the Bible, in other words
  266. 23:09 famine_ what are omnipotence pill side affects
  267. 23:09 Takov ayy
  268. 23:09 famine_ effects
  269. 23:09 T-L-G-T-W Omnipotence.
  270. 23:09 famine_ can you drink while taking them
  271. 23:09 T-L-G-T-W And a great ass.
  272. 23:09 qptain_Nemo ironically, imagine you eat an omnipotence pill and then become utterly overwhelmed with the options
  273. 23:09 Takov Eternal loneliness :P
  274. 23:09 famine_ do they have any interactions you should know about
  275. 23:09 T-L-G-T-W You wouldn't need to worry, since you'd be omnipotent.
  276. 23:09 CumaeanSibyl don't drink grapefruit juice
  277. 23:09 famine_ you need to test that kind of pill
  278. 23:09 famine_ on rats
  279. 23:09 CumaeanSibyl or operate heavy machinery
  280. 23:09 famine_ or somethin
  281. 23:09 CumaeanSibyl oh dear. now we've gone silly.
  282. 23:10 *** Slate quit (Connection reset by peer) ~Slate@95756C6E:4B8DF93C:B324E300:IP
  283. 23:10 CumaeanSibyl sorry
  284. 23:10 famine_ no we havent this is brainstorming
  285. 23:10 famine_ god lab rat
  286. 23:10 Kate-Blue I'm going between being pissed off, to amused, to annoyed, to laughing until I cry here.
  287. 23:10 *** Slate joined #site19 ~Slate@95756C6E:4B8DF93C:B324E300:IP
  288. 23:10 T-L-G-T-W Cry some more.
  289. 23:10 famine_ 5D scientists make a 4D god hamster
  290. 23:10 CumaeanSibyl Stop that, TL
  291. 23:10 T-L-G-T-W Also, don't be pissed off.
  292. 23:10 T-L-G-T-W Fine.
  293. 23:10 qptain_Nemo famine_: an interesting direction, admittedly
  294. 23:11 CumaeanSibyl Kate-Blue: I think the point is that this character could end up being insanely overpowered
  295. 23:11 CumaeanSibyl as in, being able to read gods into existence
  296. 23:11 famine_ you can write a god to be flawed and relateable
  297. 23:11 qptain_Nemo making a creature omnipotent but the creature is way too stupid to ever exploit its potential so it's relatively safe
  298. 23:11 T-L-G-T-W In summary, this thing is just a Mary Sue thing.
  299. 23:11 *** T-L-G-T-W was kicked by kaktus (Enough of this.)
  300. 23:11 CumaeanSibyl famine: that's the trick
  301. 23:11 LordSolarCommander Well, I think the fiction-manifestation ability can be interesting.
  302. 23:11 Kate-Blue Yeah. I suppose. But it does have limits (which I haven't decided)
  303. 23:11 *** T-L-G-T-W joined #site19 Mibbit@synIRC-3DCF8462.ip.standardbroadband.ca
  304. 23:11 CumaeanSibyl heheh
  305. 23:11 CumaeanSibyl ooh
  306. 23:11 famine_ im going to be modest here and provide an example by someone who writes better than me
  307. 23:11 T-L-G-T-W What was I kicked for?
  308. 23:11 famine_ .sea blind idiot
  309. 23:11 LordSolarCommander I think the way you choose to limit the fiction-manifestation ability is what makes the read interesting.
  310. 23:11 Alexandra famine_: The Blind Idiot(SCP-2682, Rating:352) - http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-2682
  311. 23:12 CumaeanSibyl maybe it can only read into existence beings that actually exist in the world in some form
  312. 23:12 CumaeanSibyl so: human beings, dogs, cats, etc
  313. 23:12 T-L-G-T-W That would be a pretty measly limitation.
  314. 23:12 CumaeanSibyl not dragons
  315. 23:12 Kate-Blue I like that idea.
  316. 23:12 T-L-G-T-W What about a tank?
  317. 23:12 LordSolarCommander Perhaps the beings read into existence are just illusions.
  318. 23:12 CumaeanSibyl tanks exist, last I checked
  319. 23:12 T-L-G-T-W Our a battle cruiser?
  320. 23:12 LordSolarCommander And they have little to no real power.
  321. 23:12 T-L-G-T-W Or any of the other SCPs?
  322. 23:12 *** JackIke joined #site19 Mibbit@synIRC-40B6D4E1.tpgi.com.au
  323. 23:12 JackIke .lc
  324. 23:12 Alexandra JackIke: SCP-WTF-J(Rating:0) - http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-wtf-j - SCP-2346(Rating:6) - http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-2346 - Catfish Go Home(Rating:8) - http://www.scp-wiki.net/catfish-go-home
  325. 23:12 CumaeanSibyl You could, however, have a test wherein someone handed her a religious text and she read a deity into existence, thus confirming that it exists in the real world
  326. 23:13 T-L-G-T-W Get, like... that trashy lizard one, what was he?
  327. 23:13 LordSolarCommander 682.
  328. 23:13 JackIke SCP-2394
  329. 23:13 Alexandra JackIke: SCP-2394 (Solitude, Written by Jack Ike, Rating:+8) - http://scp-wiki.net/scp-2394
  330. 23:13 T-L-G-T-W Yeh.
  331. 23:13 CumaeanSibyl which would probably end up expunged all to hell
  332. 23:13 T-L-G-T-W Him.
  333. 23:13 T-L-G-T-W It also says that the SCP has //full// control.
  334. 23:13 CumaeanSibyl "After test 17-B, SCP-XXXX is no longer permitted access to religious texts."
  335. 23:13 T-L-G-T-W Get a bunch of tigers in there or something.
  336. 23:13 T-L-G-T-W Remove the SCP's ability to control any living thing.
  337. 23:13 T-L-G-T-W Bang.
  338. 23:13 T-L-G-T-W That's a pretty sweet limitation.
  339. 23:14 JackIke SCP-2493
  340. 23:14 Alexandra JackIke: SCP-2493 (One Man's Garbage, Written by Jack Ike, Rating:-10) - http://scp-wiki.net/scp-2493
  341. 23:14 Kate-Blue I think I will remove it.
  342. 23:14 JackIke oh.
  343. 23:14 Kate-Blue It does seema little pointless.
  344. 23:14 JackIke its sinking now.
  345. 23:14 T-L-G-T-W It's not pointless, as much as it is crazy OP.
  346. 23:15 Kate-Blue T-L-G-T-W I don't wanna complain or anything, but could you be a little more positive?
  347. 23:16 *** thekillerax quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) Mibbit@synIRC-12198E75.sub-70-194-96.myvzw.com
  348. 23:16 T-L-G-T-W I'm not into that. Padding how you're bad with fluff is counter-productive.
  349. 23:16 *** Thekillerax joined #site19 Mibbit@synIRC-C7F81186.sub-70-194-69.myvzw.com
  350. 23:16 T-L-G-T-W Tell me what sucks so that I can fix it, y'know?
  351. 23:16 JackIke i dont understand
  352. 23:17 Kate-Blue I'm confused. What?
  353. 23:17 CumaeanSibyl TL: there's a line between "harsh but fair" and just "harsh"
  354. 23:17 Takov Welcome to the club.
  355. 23:17 Takov Don't think, just feel.
  356. 23:17 CumaeanSibyl It seems to me that you're enjoying the opportunity to insult someone's work
  357. 23:17 T-L-G-T-W What's yours' deals? I just saying that I'd want to know precisely what's bad.
  358. 23:17 LordSolarCommander I feel like people on this site are quite zealous when it comes to critique.
  359. 23:17 kaktus T-L-G-T-W: You've already been asked once to not be a dick.
  360. 23:17 kaktus The next time I have to say it I'm going to remove you.
  361. 23:18 LordSolarCommander I think they could be a bit more constructive and less vitriolic.
  362. 23:18 T-L-G-T-W Alright, fine, I'll try to be nicer.
  363. 23:18 kaktus Don't try.
  364. 23:18 T-L-G-T-W Vitriolic?
  365. 23:18 kaktus Just do it.
  366. 23:18 T-L-G-T-W Okay, I'll do it.
  367. 23:18 kaktus Thanks.
  368. 23:18 LordSolarCommander Maybe vitriolic is the wrong word. I just mean bitter in general.
  369. 23:18 T-L-G-T-W Alright, that I can understand.
  370. 23:18 LordSolarCommander It's a side effect of minor elitism.
  371. 23:18 CumaeanSibyl LSC: No, I think that's apt
  372. 23:19 CumaeanSibyl People act as though someone's failures in writing/concept are, like, a personal offense
  373. 23:19 T-L-G-T-W I'm not malicious.
  374. 23:19 CumaeanSibyl and while it is irritating to know that people haven't followed the rules, it's rarely meant as an affront
  375. 23:19 LordSolarCommander Well, you know, it can be bothersome. You spend weeks writing your scip, and it's awesome and refined.
  376. 23:19 T-L-G-T-W I have no reason to feel malice against anything, this is a chatroom on the internet.
  377. 23:19 LordSolarCommander Then a newbie puts their crap scip up, coldposted.
  378. 23:19 LordSolarCommander It's understandable to feel upset.
  379. 23:19 CumaeanSibyl LSC: Definitely
  380. 23:20 LordSolarCommander Because they're trying to take credit for what you spent so long on.
  381. 23:20 Takov I don't know about that last bit
  382. 23:20 LordSolarCommander It's just casual elitism, it happens everywhere.
  383. 23:20 CumaeanSibyl I don't think it's wrong for people to feel that way, but I think people do get a little shouty about it sometimes
  384. 23:20 CumaeanSibyl more so than is necessary
  385. 23:20 T-L-G-T-W I'll see what I can do about my l33tness.
  386. 23:20 LordSolarCommander Well, they're not taking credit for //your// work specifically.
  387. 23:20 LordSolarCommander They're taking credit for the concept of what you did.
  388. 23:21 LordSolarCommander They're purporting to be part of the same mind, when they're actually not as good.
  389. 23:21 kaktus I'm stepping out for a second. Ping me if I'm needed.
  390. 23:21 Takov what
  391. 23:21 qptain_Nemo JackIke: skimmed through your scp in case it'd motivate me to upvote it, and well, nothing bad about it but doesn't grab me either sorry :S
  392. 23:21 CumaeanSibyl Meanwhile, someone comes in here asking for crit precisely so they *don't* post a shitty coldpost skip, and we jump all over them for it
  393. 23:21 LordSolarCommander Sorry, I'm not explaining it very well.
  394. 23:21 CumaeanSibyl I wonder why people are leery about asking for crit :/
  395. 23:21 LordSolarCommander Well, you know, this chat is one of the better places for getting feedback.
  396. 23:21 CumaeanSibyl You'll sure get a lot of it
  397. 23:21 LordSolarCommander There's a lot more to be gained here than in the discussion page for a shit article.
  398. 23:21 T-L-G-T-W That's 'cause that's basically what this thing is dedicated for.
  399. 23:22 T-L-G-T-W A collection of different perspectives to look at a thing.
  400. 23:22 JackIke q
  401. 23:22 LordSolarCommander At the same time, it's hard to ask for critique.
  402. 23:22 LordSolarCommander We always think that our work, after finishing, is perfected and ready.
  403. 23:22 LordSolarCommander It's not fun to come here and say "Hey, tear it up!"
  404. 23:22 T-L-G-T-W Then you look back at it a day afterwards.
  405. 23:22 Takov Or we don't
  406. 23:22 JackIke qptain_nemo: at least tell me whats wrong with it
  407. 23:22 *** Lily is now known as LilySleep
  408. 23:22 LordSolarCommander Link to the scip, jacklke?
  409. 23:23 JackIke scp-2493
  410. 23:23 Alexandra JackIke: SCP-2493 (One Man's Garbage, Written by Jack Ike, Rating:-10) - http://scp-wiki.net/scp-2493
  411. 23:23 T-L-G-T-W LordSolarCommander: I really don't think that's the view of a lot of people on the SCP-Wiki.
  412. 23:23 CumaeanSibyl well
  413. 23:23 T-L-G-T-W I think a lot of people are aware of the wiki's high standards.
  414. 23:23 CumaeanSibyl a lot of newbies come in thinking that they *have* met those standards
  415. 23:23 CumaeanSibyl and they're pretty surprised when people disagree
  416. 23:23 T-L-G-T-W That's the reason this place isn't like the creepypasta wiki.
  417. 23:23 Kate-Blue This thing was written in about a day and a half, and I have not been in my best of states lately, so it has been hard to keep up with all the details and spot any unnessesary mistakes. I'm really trying not to take offence to any of this since I asked for /constructive/ critisism, but I think I'm going to take my leave and get to work on correcting it.
  418. 23:23 CumaeanSibyl why else would we get some many newbie coldposts?
  419. 23:23 T-L-G-T-W Well, then they have to get through the original pain of not being good.
  420. 23:23 T-L-G-T-W And then git gud.
  421. 23:23 LordSolarCommander I guess not, TLGTW. I guess anybody who looks closely will understand that they're in for a rigorous time.
  422. 23:24 Takov Creepypasta wiki has actually been cleaning up a lot of the worse ones
  423. 23:24 Takov And some of the good ones, without review
  424. 23:24 T-L-G-T-W Let's hope they don't stop.
  425. 23:24 LordSolarCommander But, it's not that simple. A lot of people look at their edgy katanalord and they really //do// equate it to 087 and such.
  426. 23:24 T-L-G-T-W With the bad ones.
  427. 23:24 CumaeanSibyl Kate-Blue: Take care
  428. 23:24 LordSolarCommander They just don't have the writing expertise that many people do.
  429. 23:24 *** FFTransform quit (Quit: A nice hot cup of--QUIT) ~Transform@synIRC-E082C5C0.cl.ri.cox.net
  430. 23:24 T-L-G-T-W I think that's precisely //why// their SCP needs to be bashed.
  431. 23:24 LordSolarCommander Good luck, kate, hopefully you like what you come out with.
  432. 23:24 T-L-G-T-W They need to learn to deal with it.
  433. 23:24 Takov JackIke: A man made out of antimatter is too hard for me to swallow, though I like the effort
  434. 23:24 LordSolarCommander Well, really, I don't think it warrants bashing.
  435. 23:25 T-L-G-T-W And, Kate-Blue, I have no reason to not want you to git gud.
  436. 23:25 *** Decibelle joined #site19 Shes@Grindcore.Queen
  437. 23:25 +++ ChanServ has given op to Decibelle
  438. 23:25 Takov TLGTW: Or...you could just be less mean.
  439. 23:25 LordSolarCommander I think it warrants calm critique.
  440. 23:25 Tuomey T-L-G-T-W: "bashing" an SCP isn't the same as critiquing it
  441. 23:25 LordSolarCommander There's nothing to be gained from getting mean.
  442. 23:25 CumaeanSibyl You can be incredibly harsh with critique without yelling and swearing and going COME ON?? REALLY???
  443. 23:25 Kate-Blue Thanks for all the help. I'll come back whenever I'm done picking out the parts that need correcting.
  444. 23:25 T-L-G-T-W Their the same to me.
  445. 23:25 CumaeanSibyl and harping repeatedly on things you've already mentioned
  446. 23:25 T-L-G-T-W You better.
  447. 23:25 LordSolarCommander The only difference between meanness and calm critique is that meannes can cause us to lose a member.
  448. 23:25 Takov what
  449. 23:25 LordSolarCommander And cause undue enmity.
  450. 23:25 T-L-G-T-W Yeah, okay, you're right.
  451. 23:25 Tuomey T-L-G-T-W: if you're hear to piss on people doing badly, you're in the wrong place
  452. 23:25 Tuomey *here
  453. 23:25 qptain_Nemo JackIke: it's not hard for me to swallow like for Takov i think, but it's something i find hard to be interested in
  454. 23:25 LordSolarCommander Meanness isn't a more effective way to critique, that's for sure.
  455. 23:25 T-L-G-T-W I'm not.
  456. 23:26 Takov "You better." Seriously?
  457. 23:26 CumaeanSibyl Yeah, that's weird
  458. 23:26 T-L-G-T-W As in, she better git gud.
  459. 23:26 CumaeanSibyl Still weird
  460. 23:26 Takov You have made me frown. I will never forgive yo-
  461. 23:26 Takov >git gud
  462. 23:26 Decibelle so just from the context i have since i have joined
  463. 23:26 --- kaktus has banned *!*@synIRC-3DCF8462.ip.standardbroadband.ca
  464. 23:26 Takov /v/ pls go
  465. 23:26 kaktus Yeah no.
  466. 23:26 kaktus I've had about enough of this.
  467. 23:26 LordSolarCommander Your scip is 210 pounds, jacklke?
  468. 23:26 CumaeanSibyl thank you
  469. 23:26 kaktus Take two days off, come back when you can figure out how to not be a dick.
  470. 23:27 Takov RIP
  471. 23:27 *** T-L-G-T-W was kicked by kaktus (Appeal in 17 if you want.)
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