TEATIME Jersshhh: hey termo
TEATIME Jersshhh: was just wondering what you thought about triple multi ubers
TEATIME Jersshhh: to just get in and get position
TEATIME Jersshhh: not really looking to do anything with the uber (caus it'll be so short)
TEATIME Jersshhh: but if you get like better pos for post
TEATIME Jersshhh: we noticed 4G doing alot of those style of pushes
termo is now Online.
termo: yep
termo: so first
termo: if you want to analyze what teams are doing
termo: you have to look at what they have actually done (which you have) ie. triple multi uber
termo: but then you also need to look at what the situation is
termo: that they are doing it in
TEATIME Jersshhh: mm
TEATIME Jersshhh: so it's more a push you'd with player ad + uber ad
termo: well is that what they are doing?
termo: whenever you look at things that top teams are doing
termo: you cant just look at it from a general point of view
termo: you really need to take a microscope
termo: and look at the specific situation
termo: and in general thats how you should be thinking of the game
termo: because if you just start doing triple multi ubers in random situations
termo: its just a recipe for disaster
TEATIME Jersshhh: yeah true
termo: instead try and understand why they are doing it!
termo: so maybe go back into the demo
termo: or whatever
termo: and go and look at SPECIFICALLY
termo: what situation they are playing like this
TEATIME Jersshhh: alright
termo: with the multi ubering a lot thing
termo: if you want my opinion of it
termo: ill say like
termo: I dont think its something you want to be doing
termo: when you are just doing a regular uber v uber push
termo: because it creates a situation where
termo: you have used your uber very quickly
termo: to little effect
termo: and then they have their uber
termo: which they can come in and crush you
TEATIME Jersshhh: yeah
TEATIME Jersshhh: defs a uber ad push
termo: yeah
termo: so now with that
termo: you can start thinking
termo: hmm
termo: what situations with uberadv can this be good in
termo: why am I multi ubering 3 people
termo: instead of 1-2
termo: is it to
termo: a) get kills
termo: b) take position
termo: you know?
termo: like
termo: this is how you should b e thinking
TEATIME Jersshhh: but just the idea of using the uber to get as much of your team into the last to have a better post
TEATIME Jersshhh: is intresting
TEATIME Jersshhh: you'd have to be confident in your team fights
termo: its great to have a focus on the POST uber instead of the during
termo: because if you think about it
termo: thats when all the kills happens
termo: that when you win a game or lose it
termo: so if you can setup well for the post uber
TEATIME Jersshhh: yeah
termo: and it means
termo: not trying to do TOO MUCH
termo: with the uber
termo: and instead just focus on  playing well / collapsing well / falling back whtaever the correct decision is POST UBER
termo: maybe a specific example
termo: as a soldier getting ubered
termo: maybe you just hvae a little bit of uber left
TEATIME Jersshhh: yeah i have found myself overextending lately to try make up for crap ubers
termo: so you can go for that kill on the scout
TEATIME Jersshhh: and it just puts us in a worse spot
termo: which you might get
termo: but then you might just die straight away
termo: OR
termo: you can use the last bit of your uber to jump up into some good position
termo: and just play from ther
termo: with the rest of your team fighting
termo: like
termo: stuff like that
termo: think in general you should try and morph your way of thinking to being very analytical and looking at the finer detail i guess
termo: like theres always a reason
termo: based on the situation
termo: player adv/disadv
termo: uber adv/disadv
termo: where players are on the map
termo: respawn times
termo: health on mplayers
termo: ALL THESE VARIABLES
termo: that help you come to a conclusion about what the best decision is
TEATIME Jersshhh: yeah
termo: and whenever you're playing
termo: thats the goal
termo: making the best decisions possible
termo: individually and as a team
termo: thats how you get good
termo: you're making these decisions thats above everyone else
termo: you do this
termo: so i do THIS
termo: and i beat you
termo: you know?
TEATIME Jersshhh: yeah constant counters
termo: but yeah
termo: if you really want to understand
termo: why 4G are doing multi ubers
termo: you need to go back to the demo
termo: and really look at
termo: what situation they are doing it in
termo: and that tells you
TEATIME Jersshhh: i think our comms are the biggest thing that need work atm
termo: so they are doing it in X situation sometimes
termo: and that helps you come to your own conclusions
termo: about why
termo: do you think its good
termo: etc
termo: can you implement it into your own team/game
termo: cant stress that enough
termo: if you can get your whole team thinking like that
termo: that way of thinking
termo: and just improve from there
TEATIME Jersshhh: yeah
TEATIME Jersshhh: well obvs i'm the least experienced on the team
TEATIME Jersshhh: my reactions and choices aren't as fast as they need to be yet
TEATIME Jersshhh: well can always be better but mines not a div 1 standard yet
termo: just focus on looking at the game from a detailed perspective
termo: and you'll be fine
TEATIME Jersshhh: yeah i'll work on it
termo: and when you have a question for now on
termo: I dont want to hear it
TEATIME Jersshhh: it'd be awesome to watch over one of our stvs with you or something
termo: unless it applies to a specific situation in the game
termo: well
termo: still ask it
termo: lol
termo: but
termo: yeah
TEATIME Jersshhh: yeah i know what you mean
termo: its like
termo: yo TERMO
termo: I noticed teams are holding forward in badalnds lobby alot?
termo: ...
termo: if you actually look at the situations that its occurring in
termo: ie. uber disadvantage
termo: it almost answers it for you
termo: OH
termo: they are BUYING TIME
termo: to get uber
termo: by stopping the enemy team from coming into lobby straight away
termo: you know?
TEATIME Jersshhh: yah
TEATIME Jersshhh: make them walk up spire
TEATIME Jersshhh: + get good spam on them left balc
termo: yeah
termo: thats something yo ucan do
termo: but the underlying reason
termo: is to buy time to get uber
TEATIME Jersshhh: yeah
termo: and everyone knows that situation
termo: because its been done a lot
termo: and
termo: it has a very powerful effect
termo: but
termo: its no different to any other sitaution
termo: that you can learn
termo: and execute
termo: that others dont know
termo: so