1:23 AM - sprog: still awake?
9:07 AM - Viceroy Bubbles von Salamancer: sup
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11:17 AM - sprog: okay
11:17 AM - sprog: so me and kalkin would like to come on fully charged
11:18 AM - sprog: to talk address the two problems robin brought up about our community/gamemode
11:18 AM - sprog: that
11:18 AM - sprog: 1) the game is too far removed from public play
11:19 AM - sprog: 2) the metagame shifts are too microscopic for the average player/viewer to appreciate (robin)
11:19 AM - sprog: and potential solutions to these problems and a process through which we can test these solutions
11:21 AM - sprog: the basic idea is to attempt the following changes
11:21 AM - sprog: 1) increase the variety in the map pool (2 of each type: ad/cp/koth/pl)
11:21 AM - sprog: 2) loosen class restrictions to 2 each
11:21 AM - sprog: 3) unban all unlocks by default
11:22 AM - sprog: we then TEST these changes in a new experimental tftv league
11:22 AM - sprog: which i have no doubt i can get people to sign up/participate in
11:22 AM - sprog: and to calm the debbie downers
11:23 AM - sprog: we iterate the point that this ruleset isn't necessarily final
11:23 AM - sprog: but rather a baseline we should use to reevaluate the way we play the game
11:23 AM - sprog: because we haven't taken a look at our fundamental ruleset in over 5 years
11:23 AM - sprog: even though the game has changed so much from when the rules were first set in place
11:24 AM - sprog: we pitch all this to you guys/the audience
11:25 AM - sprog: and address concerns/whatever
1:19 PM - Viceroy Bubbles von Salamancer: ok i wont be in town this week
1:19 PM - Viceroy Bubbles von Salamancer: poke cbear about it
1:19 PM - sprog: okay
1:19 PM - sprog: will you be here next?
1:19 PM - Viceroy Bubbles von Salamancer: possibly
1:19 PM - sprog: or the week after, ratehr
1:19 PM - sprog: what's your take on it
1:20 PM - sprog: would robin pay attention?
1:20 PM - Viceroy Bubbles von Salamancer: im fine with experimenting
1:20 PM - Viceroy Bubbles von Salamancer: i think robin wont pay attention to much except the results, especially if we can get one centralized, concise mechanism for collecting that
1:20 PM - Viceroy Bubbles von Salamancer: he might watch one or two but idk
1:21 PM - sprog: the idea is to use the league as proof-of-concept
1:21 PM - sprog: that that format _functions_ competitively
1:21 PM - sprog: and because it's not a big departure from the pub format
1:21 PM - Viceroy Bubbles von Salamancer: yeah its a good idea
1:21 PM - sprog: that it's worthwhile putting a 6v6 lobby system into the game
1:21 PM - Viceroy Bubbles von Salamancer: although imo
1:21 PM - Viceroy Bubbles von Salamancer: 1 of each class instead of 2
1:22 PM - Viceroy Bubbles von Salamancer: but im sure youve thought about it
1:22 PM - sprog: i have
1:22 PM - sprog: there are ups and downs to both formats
1:22 PM - Viceroy Bubbles von Salamancer: 2 meds?
1:22 PM - Viceroy Bubbles von Salamancer: 2 demos?
1:22 PM - sprog: 2 meds is the furthest thing from my mind
1:22 PM - sprog: 2 demos is the biggest problem
1:22 PM - Viceroy Bubbles von Salamancer: but would it be allowed is the question
1:22 PM - Viceroy Bubbles von Salamancer: yeah
1:22 PM - sprog: and that could be alleviated by a very very simple nerf
1:22 PM - sprog: that should be in place already anyways
1:22 PM - Viceroy Bubbles von Salamancer: ?
1:22 PM - sprog: which is a 6 sticky max clip
1:23 PM - Viceroy Bubbles von Salamancer: ahh
1:23 PM - Viceroy Bubbles von Salamancer: yeah
1:23 PM - Viceroy Bubbles von Salamancer: could see htat.
1:23 PM - sprog: it makes absolutely no god damn sense that the demo has that much ammo at his disposal
1:23 PM - sprog: in 1 reload
1:23 PM - sprog: and it's something that's universally agreed upon
1:23 PM - sprog: by anyone in any context
1:23 PM - sprog: pubbers, competitive players, whoever
1:23 PM - Viceroy Bubbles von Salamancer: yeah
1:23 PM - Viceroy Bubbles von Salamancer: welp im all for it
1:24 PM - sprog: i just need someone vocal with a closer ear to valve
1:24 PM - sprog: so i'm hoping to wait until you can host a fully charged
1:24 PM - sprog: not just cbear alone
1:24 PM - sprog: if i wrote an email to robin directly, would he respond?
1:25 PM - Viceroy Bubbles von Salamancer: i dont know.
1:27 PM - Viceroy Bubbles von Salamancer: i would try making an email to him
1:27 PM - Viceroy Bubbles von Salamancer: and we can unveil the thing in 1.5 weeks on fc
1:27 PM - sprog: ok
1:27 PM - Viceroy Bubbles von Salamancer: get it all ready to go
1:27 PM - sprog: was planning on writing an article/proposal for all of this
1:27 PM - sprog: and release it before the FC same day
1:27 PM - sprog: but this just gives more time and hopefully affirmation from robin
1:28 PM - Viceroy Bubbles von Salamancer: indeed