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  7. <RainMan28> I just wanted to ask you about ninjashogun...he keeps trying to solicit a loan in OTC for $30,000 USD for some business of his
  8. <RainMan28> and he seems like a scammer to me
  9. <RainMan28> saw that you negatively rated him, so was hoping you could provide some insight
  10. <benkay> he's a USG plant to the best i can determine.
  11. <RainMan28> whats USG?
  12. <benkay> United States Government.
  13. <benkay> there's nothing aboveboard about his operation.
  14. <RainMan28> ohh
  15. <RainMan28> gotcha
  16. <RainMan28> he seems like a joke
  17. <RainMan28> i asked him what he needs the $30k for
  18. <RainMan28> this was his response, and it sounds like it was written by a 4th grader
  19. <RainMan28> <ninjashogun> RainMan28 the following is the usage for the $30K:
  20. <RainMan28> <ninjashogun> 1) I will immediately pay past-due Delaware franchise tax of $1200 or so on the one idea that is incorporated
  21. <RainMan28> <ninjashogun> 2) I will immediately file 7 pending legal documents (basic protections) as advised by several famous and respected inventors
  22. <RainMan28> <ninjashogun> 3) I will incorporate the second idea, which is currently unincorporated
  23. <RainMan28> <ninjashogun> 4) I will quit a day job in which I am netting $35/day but have full health coverage.
  24. <RainMan28> <ninjashogun> 5) I will buy a computer that has a dedicated graphics card so that I can render my product renders on one of the ideas without waiting overnight for
  25. them.
  26. <RainMan28> <ninjashogun> 6) I will buy a suit, a used Rolex submariner, and travel and meet with a respected VC I have a warm intro to. (This part is secret and a bit
  27. embarrassing, let's not pastebin it)
  28. <RainMan28> <ninjashogun> 7) I will travel to other investors who will take my meetings due to the first investor taking the meeting
  29. <RainMan28> <ninjashogun> 8) I will spend a little bit of money on my own startup lawyer to review terms.
  30. <RainMan28> <ninjashogun> 9) The rest is at present unallocated, but there is a chance there are unforeseen difficulties since there are several projects going on at once. Elon
  31. Musk did NOT expect to have to spend his ENTIRE PayPal fortune on both SpaceX and Tesla, but he did.
  32. <RainMan28> (sorry for the PM vomit)
  33. <benkay> np - next time pastebin it
  34. <benkay> and actually hang on
  35. <RainMan28> ah good idea
  36. <benkay> and sign it with your key
  37. <benkay> dump it into -assets
  38. <RainMan28> ok, I'm really new to gpg
  39. <RainMan28> but a user in otc did walk me through setting up a key
  40. <RainMan28> and I have a little linux box here that I have been using for it
  41. <benkay> gpg --clearsign -a
  42. <RainMan28> so let me try to google a little
  43. <RainMan28> oh ok
  44. <RainMan28> that works too
  45. <benkay> well, maybe
  46. <benkay> google it too who knows if my finger macros are any good
  47. <RainMan28> ok so I did: gpg --clearsign /tmp/ninja
  48. <benkay> you'll want the -a
  49. <benkay> that puts it into ascii
  50. <RainMan28> then I did cat /tmp/ninja.asc | curl -Ss -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
  51. <RainMan28> and I got this back: http://sprunge.us/iXOh
  52. <benkay> ah
  53. <benkay> great
  54. <RainMan28> ah ok, should i redo it?
  55. <benkay> no no that's great, if your sig validates
  56. <RainMan28> ok cool
  57. <benkay> now hie thee to -assets and i'll up you and paste that link in
  58. <RainMan28> I had written a few notes to myself from last time when a user taught me how to do this
  59. <benkay> does sprunge hang on?
  60. <benkay> persist i mean?
  61. <RainMan28> i'm not sure...
  62. <benkay> meh.
  63. <RainMan28> sorry, still new to this, wish i had answers haha
  64. <benkay> to assets!
  65. <benkay> np.
  66. <benkay> i can host it on my blog, too.
  67. <benkay> and will, if you're amenable.
  68. <RainMan28> I don't mind, but one thing that I'd like to tell you is that when ninjashogun didn't like that I wasn't interested in investing with him
  69. <RainMan28> he started looking at my gpg key
  70. <RainMan28> and I had my previous gpg key using my main email address (because I set it up to do a paypal deal with an established user in OTC and he wanted the key to be signing
  71. for the paypal email address).
  72. <RainMan28> When I realized this, I changed my gpg key to hide that email from being associated with my WoT
  73. <RainMan28> and ninjashogun reported me to ***
  74. <RainMan28> saying I must be a scammer for doing that
  75. <RainMan28> all I wanted was the guy to not know it since I feel like he's the scammer
  76. <benkay> fascinating.
  77. <benkay> make a statement to that effect and sign it as well, please.
  78. <RainMan28> so *** hit me up this morning asking why I changed it
  79. <RainMan28> after i explained it to him, he told me ok no big deal and that he believes me
  80. <benkay> hang on let's take this to -assets
  81. <benkay> pasting...
  82. <benkay> do you mind?
  83. <benkay> it's logged in public.
  84. <RainMan28> but just shady that ninjashogun wanted to secretly try to out me or something
  85. <benkay> yeah he's a shady fucker.
  86. <benkay> may i paste this to -assets?
  87. <RainMan28> sure, you want to paste the sprunge link? go for it
  88. <benkay> and this conversation if you don't mind.
  89. <RainMan28> if *** is cool with it?
  90. <RainMan28> i dunno what the PM rules are
  91. <benkay> and auth up, as well, please
  92. <RainMan28> around here
  93. <benkay> eh, try it and see
  94. <RainMan28> auth up?
  95. <RainMan28> is there anything else I need to do
  96. <RainMan28> I did auth I believe
  97. <benkay> nah, it looks like you're authenticated.
  98. <RainMan28> k cool
  99. <RainMan28> not sure what the dudes motives are but he's shady seeming
  100. <benkay> yeah i hear you.
  101. <RainMan28> good to know you feel the same way about the dude, he just seems like a different scammer from the regular kind that are in OTC
  102. <RainMan28> but still seems very scammy
  103. <benkay> well, government agents man.
  104. <benkay> watch out, they're only going to get better.
  105. <RainMan28> he told me his identity
  106. <RainMan28> then tried to ask mine
  107. <benkay> "identity"
  108. <RainMan28> yeah
  109. <RainMan28> prolly fake
  110. <benkay> totally fake.
  111. <benkay> paul graham of ycombinator completely disavowed him.
  112. <RainMan28> he created his own gpg key 5 days ago with ycombinator in the email or something
  113. <RainMan28> then acted like he had no clue how that got there
  114. <RainMan28> and not to use that email
  115. <benkay> who, graham?
  116. <benkay> or nj?
  117. <RainMan28> no nj
  118. <RainMan28> the user Caerian looked up his gpg key and saw that email address and that the key was made like 5 days ago, so when he said ok i'll email you at that email he was
  119. like i don't know how that got there, thats not the email i use anymore
  120. <RainMan28> or something to that effect
  121. <RainMan28> when he made the key 5 days ago haha
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