chat log with UGC HL admins

Wednesday, January 16, 2013
5:47 PM - chimpoo: so why is our team not in gold
5:47 PM - chimpoo: we're facing BPM in plat first match
5:47 PM - twitch.tv/heinlander :3: i tried to get you moved to gold
5:47 PM - chimpoo: there's like 2-3 teams that can easily beat us that are ing old
5:47 PM - chimpoo: eBm can probably beat us
5:48 PM - chimpoo: lbp looks pretty strong
5:48 PM - chimpoo: vhalin's team probably can beat us
5:48 PM - twitch.tv/heinlander :3: talk to redrum
5:48 PM - twitch.tv/heinlander :3: i already put in my vote for you to be gold
5:49 PM - twitch.tv/heinlander :3: you're on the cusp of being in both




5:56 PM - RedRum: yea we had a big meeting. your not the only team who wants to move down. we talked about it last night in mumble
6:03 PM - chimpoo: well there's at least 5 teams in Gold right now that I feel can easily beat us in a match
6:04 PM - chimpoo: or at least the match can go either way
6:04 PM - chimpoo: especailly since we won't be scrimming
6:04 PM - chimpoo: idk if u guys knew that
6:05 PM - chimpoo: these teams: polk's team, moose's team, lbp, costco, djinn's fabulous nine, eBm, HDISR, TG
6:05 PM - chimpoo: polk's team has more plat players than we do
6:05 PM - chimpoo: moose's team has been playing forever and they picked up hein
6:05 PM - chimpoo: TG is being mentored by vhalin, and has solid players
6:06 PM - chimpoo: HDISR was plat when they were SAG
6:06 PM - chimpoo: eBm has Rich, neon, Mamboulay, Hugh Laurie!
6:06 PM - RedRum: your not the only team in ugc that wants to drop down
6:06 PM - RedRum: about 20 other teams want to drop
6:06 PM - chimpoo: there's not 20 teams in plat..
6:06 PM - chimpoo: ?
6:06 PM - RedRum: nope
6:06 PM - RedRum: i'm saying
6:06 PM - RedRum: overall
6:06 PM - RedRum: people want to drop down divisions
6:06 PM - RedRum: gold to silver, plat to gold, etc
6:06 PM - chimpoo: well do any of the teams i listed want to drop to gold?
6:06 PM - chimpoo: i mean
6:06 PM - chimpoo: silveR?
6:07 PM - chimpoo: cuz those teams can easily beat us
6:07 PM - chimpoo: looking at the roster
6:07 PM - chimpoo: we honestly only have 2-3 plat players if you count me
6:07 PM - chimpoo: and the rest are new to their classes
6:07 PM - chimpoo: our 6s players are offclassing
6:07 PM - chimpoo: and they arent even high open
6:07 PM - chimpoo: or proven high open yet
6:07 PM - RedRum: a few gold teams want to drop down to silver. it's everywhere in each division someone wants to drop down. it's like this every season. this is nothing new
6:08 PM - chimpoo: yeah but do any of the teams i mentioned that u placed in gold want to drop to silver?
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6:10 PM - chimpoo: steam went offline
6:10 PM - chimpoo: as i was saying
6:10 PM - chimpoo: yeah but do any of the teams i mentioned that u placed in gold want to drop to silver?
6:10 PM - RedRum: ebm at first did
6:10 PM - RedRum: i'm just using it as an example
6:10 PM - RedRum: gold, plat, steel, silver teams want to drop down
6:12 PM - chimpoo: i still say we don't deserve to be in plat considering the teams that you guys kept in gold
6:12 PM - chimpoo: i don't understand why the trend that all teams want to drop down effects us
6:12 PM - chimpoo: when the skill levels for division are pretty set
6:13 PM - chimpoo: and our skill level isn't plat as a team
6:13 PM - chimpoo: i mean we can easily make the argument that hein and +fwd and you and eBm are plat material
6:13 PM - chimpoo: you guys have hugh laurie, rich, neon, mamboulay, all who can easily play plat
6:14 PM - chimpoo: i can go on with the other teams i mentioned
6:14 PM - RedRum: i'm not on a team
6:14 PM - RedRum: wrong person
6:14 PM - chimpoo: ok, well regardless
6:15 PM - chimpoo: i only see 2-3 teams that we can possibly beat that are in plat
6:15 PM - chimpoo: and it would probably be close
6:15 PM - chimpoo: considering 6 players on our team have no HL experience
6:15 PM - chimpoo: whatsoever
6:15 PM - chimpoo: 6 players of our STARTIng roster
6:16 PM - chimpoo: and again, we won't be scrimming at all, since our 6s players are focusing on esea open
6:21 PM - chimpoo: are you still there
6:23 PM - RedRum: yep
6:24 PM - chimpoo: so idk, could i hear your argument for keeping us in plat, besides the trend that 20 or so teams want to drop down a division, cuz i don't see how that affects us after you guys made final decisions on division changes
6:24 PM - chimpoo: and the skill levels are pretty much set
6:24 PM - RedRum: we already talked about it in our meeting last night. we talked about 40 some teams
6:25 PM - RedRum: borderline teams or teams who want to drop
6:25 PM - chimpoo: But we aren't even borderline, looking at our skill level, and the teams that we could possibly beat in plat and gold
6:26 PM - chimpoo: we'd be mid-top gold
6:26 PM - chimpoo: and definitely low low plat
6:26 PM - chimpoo: i'm talking about our records
6:27 PM - chimpoo: our possible records i mean
6:28 PM - RedRum: inf talk to him. we had a big ass meeting last night and decided this. your team was one of the many teams on the list. there's a lot of new plat teams we moved up. some want to stay in plat even if they don't have a chance
6:29 PM - chimpoo: but your decision is inconsistent with the teams that you guys placed in gold
6:29 PM - chimpoo: why did you guys decide to keep us in plat when there are 5-6 teams that are better than us that you guys kept in gold
6:30 PM - RedRum: there's always going to be borderline teams that can be moved up or down
6:30 PM - RedRum: plain and simple
6:31 PM - RedRum: talk to inf
6:31 PM - RedRum: we agreed about your team
6:31 PM - chimpoo: ok hein says talk to you and now you say talk to inf
6:31 PM - chimpoo: is inf gonna say talk to hein
6:31 PM - RedRum: nope
6:31 PM - RedRum: he won't
6:31 PM - chimpoo: ok


6:32 PM - chimpoo: http://pastebin.com/S4aNJJqB
6:32 PM - chimpoo: my conversation with hein and redrum for the past hour
6:32 PM - chimpoo: redrum referred me to you
iNF-- is now Online.
6:42 PM - iNF--: yea, i just read through it
6:43 PM - iNF--: we are not going to move you guys this season, but after this season if your performance is where it needs to be you will move down
6:43 PM - chimpoo: i don't understand why we won't be moved down this season
6:44 PM - chimpoo: 6 of our starting roster is NEW to highlander
6:44 PM - iNF--: i read through all your reasons
6:44 PM - iNF--: you dont need to repeat them
6:44 PM - chimpoo: then what was the reason why all my reasons aren't enough
6:44 PM - chimpoo: i mean we trimmed our roster down specifically for gold
6:44 PM - chimpoo: we got rid of cosa and his friends even though they are backups
6:45 PM - iNF--: it is what it is man
6:45 PM - chimpoo: it is what it is? so you guys don't have a reason why we're in plat?
6:45 PM - chimpoo: i mean none of you 3 admisn are telling me the REASONINg behind putting us in plat
6:45 PM - chimpoo: just that you guys had a big meeting
6:45 PM - chimpoo: and decided it
6:45 PM - chimpoo: but you aren't giving me the reasoning behing the decision
6:46 PM - iNF--: based on last seasons record and who you have on your team you were put in platinum
6:46 PM - chimpoo: but this team is completely scrapped from last seasons
6:46 PM - iNF--: i know you dont agree with that
6:46 PM - iNF--: but thats it
6:46 PM - chimpoo: lol, but tR, polk's team, and eBm are put in gold
6:47 PM - chimpoo: i know i'm repeating what i pasted in the chat log
6:47 PM - chimpoo: but
6:47 PM - chimpoo: that just is completely baffling
6:47 PM - chimpoo: so there's NOTHINg we can do to be put in gold?
6:48 PM - chimpoo: even if i scrapped the entire roster and put in some pub players?
6:48 PM - iNF--: at this point no, but all I will say is we will look at it again
6:48 PM - chimpoo: just cuz our team is using the same roster page as Squirrel Clickers?
6:48 PM - chimpoo: i mean if i created a new team
6:48 PM - chimpoo: a brand new team
6:48 PM - chimpoo: with no record
6:48 PM - chimpoo: from any season
6:48 PM - chimpoo: and put these same players
6:48 PM - chimpoo: i feel you'd put us in gold
6:48 PM - chimpoo: or considering the admin's beef with misskay
6:48 PM - chimpoo: probably not
6:48 PM - chimpoo: admins'*
6:49 PM - iNF--: heh
6:49 PM - iNF--: if we did unfair things to people we didnt like
6:49 PM - iNF--: half our forum would be banned
6:49 PM - iNF--: we don't operate that way
6:49 PM - chimpoo: sorry i had to bring that up becuase i honestly don't see any reasoning behind the decision
6:49 PM - chimpoo: besides that
6:49 PM - chimpoo: beacuse our team is a brand new team. the only person from the starting roster of squirrel clickers is misskay
6:49 PM - chimpoo: based on ur reasoning
6:49 PM - chimpoo: hein's team should be in plat
6:50 PM - chimpoo: cuz hein was plat last season
6:50 PM - chimpoo: and his record on ts was undefeated
6:50 PM - chimpoo: same with every plat player in gold
6:50 PM - chimpoo: backups shouldnt even be concerned because it's not like we're rotating players in and out on a planned schedule
6:51 PM - iNF--: every time someone has said "put us in x division" cause all our good players are backups.. they always end up playing
6:51 PM - iNF--: so that does no good
6:51 PM - chimpoo: we dont' have all our good players on backups
6:51 PM - chimpoo: we removed all of cosa's IM teammates
6:51 PM - chimpoo: so that's not even a concern
6:51 PM - iNF--: im talking about what you just said
6:51 PM - chimpoo: well what i said isn't even a concern cuz we did what hein said
6:51 PM - chimpoo: and removed all our "good" backups
6:52 PM - chimpoo: all our good players are our starters
6:52 PM - iNF--: okas, sal
6:52 PM - chimpoo: sal is worse than mendez on sniper
6:52 PM - iNF--: missk
6:52 PM - chimpoo: misskay is our fucking medic
6:52 PM - iNF--: you
6:52 PM - chimpoo: ME?
6:52 PM - chimpoo: i've never palyed heavy
6:52 PM - iNF--: look
6:52 PM - chimpoo: on a platinum team
6:52 PM - chimpoo: on any team
6:52 PM - chimpoo: for that matter
6:52 PM - chimpoo: just inf reaking pug.nahl
6:52 PM - chimpoo: and fine, we can remove okas
6:52 PM - iNF--: ok
6:53 PM - chimpoo: but honestly he wont' be playing
6:53 PM - iNF--: im done debating it
6:53 PM - iNF--: ive given you our reasons
6:53 PM - chimpoo: you've given no reasons
6:53 PM - iNF--: ok
6:53 PM - chimpoo: just that you "decided it"
6:53 PM - iNF--: later
6:53 PM - chimpoo: that's professional
6:53 PM - iNF--: here it comes
6:53 PM - iNF--: sorry, gotta go to bed
6:53 PM - iNF--: work in the am :)