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  1. (01:41:27 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> sare you getting calisia from ender too?
  2. (01:42:35 PM) Tomoko: no gave it to hino
  3. (01:42:55 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> so waht are you planning your empire to be exactly?
  4. (01:43:06 PM) Tomoko: hino tells me your claiming parts of Altschwabenland, kriegstein
  5. (01:43:40 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> altschwabelands borders were never discussed between glo and gwyyrn
  6. (01:43:53 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> the border dispute predates the ender
  7. (01:44:19 PM) Tomoko: hino also says eureka is part of kreigstein
  8. (01:44:23 PM) Tomoko: kriegstein*
  9. (01:44:24 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> as far as kreigstein, the region only consisted of the city when we signed it over to hino
  10. (01:44:46 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> it was a submandate of kreigstein
  11. (01:44:51 PM) Spock: [alpha] <niller1703> Does anyone have sponges?
  12. (01:44:52 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> of which kreigstein was a mandate
  13. (01:45:04 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> we signed over kreigstein without eureka
  14. (01:45:22 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> mandates are direct areas of control by the commonwealth government
  15. (01:45:30 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> and have no real right to their lands in a sense
  16. (01:45:32 PM) Spock: [lobby] Hinoarashi joined the game.
  17. (01:45:33 PM) Spock: [lobby] Hinoarashi joined the server.
  18. (01:45:35 PM) Tomoko: if it was a mandate of kreistein how did you sign it over exluding eureka?
  19. (01:45:38 PM) Spock: [alpha] Hinoarashi joined the server.
  20. (01:45:48 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> eureka was a submandate
  21. (01:46:00 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> they were both mandates of the commonwealth independently
  22. (01:46:12 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> eureak was kept under kreigstein for administrative reasons
  23. (01:46:30 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Jinxauthor_Mel> niller sorry not me
  24. (01:46:50 PM) Tomoko: youre also claiming alot of land from what sids kreigstein had
  25. (01:47:08 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> sids kreigstein was formed under treaty
  26. (01:47:14 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Hinoarashi> If the borders of Altschwabenland are not respected, we will not observe our end of the
  27. (01:47:18 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Hinoarashi> Treaty of Somerset.
  28. (01:47:21 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> the region known as somerset was given to sid on the condition of peace
  29. (01:47:24 PM) Spock: [lobby] Chuck_Fiinley joined the game.
  30. (01:47:25 PM) Spock: [lobby] Chuck_Fiinley joined the server.
  31. (01:47:30 PM) Spock: [alpha] Chuck_Fiinley joined the server.
  32. (01:47:38 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> the treaty of somerset was invalidated by the attacks sid made on the commonwealth
  33. (01:47:50 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Hinoarashi> What does Sid have to do with it?
  34. (01:47:59 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> the ender wasnt party to the first treaty of somerset hino
  35. (01:48:22 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> also known as the treay of old waldsic
  36. (01:48:29 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Hinoarashi> I have no idea what kind of stuff you're smoking, but that's another document.
  37. (01:48:45 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Hinoarashi> https://dev-urandom.eu/treaties:treaty_of_somerset
  38. (01:48:51 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> https://dev-urandom.eu/treaties:somm-wyn
  39. (01:48:58 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> ^that is what we are discussing
  40. (01:49:00 PM) Tomoko: this is exaggerate though shako, your claiming everything up to the walls of the buildings
  41. (01:49:14 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> thats what we decided when sid rebelled
  42. (01:49:29 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> somerset was returned to me as soverign of waldsic
  43. (01:49:46 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> i gave all of it except NK proper to niller
  44. (01:49:49 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Hinoarashi> I'm talking about the document where we agreed not to pursue the war further.
  45. (01:50:44 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Hinoarashi> One of the conditions if acknowledging the borders of Altschwabenland.
  46. (01:50:45 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> I dont know why
  47. (01:51:20 PM) Tomoko: youre also claiming lands owned by altschwabenland, even if the former borders were fuzzy, by the treaty of summerset we had defined them
  48. (01:52:52 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> breshik never signed that treaty
  49. (01:52:56 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Hinoarashi> Okay.
  50. (01:52:57 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> nor did altschwabenland
  51. (01:53:01 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Hinoarashi> Then would you say we're still at war?
  52. (01:53:06 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Hinoarashi> Altschwabenland is a territory of Ender.
  53. (01:53:09 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> this is a diplomatic matter between breshik and altschwabenland
  54. (01:53:10 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Hinoarashi> It was annexed.
  55. (01:53:56 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> you annexed an area with uncertian borders?
  56. (01:53:59 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Hinoarashi> https://dev-urandom.eu/treaties:altschwabenland_accession
  57. (01:54:03 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Hinoarashi> The borders are defined.
  58. (01:54:04 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> that sounds kinda foolhardy
  59. (01:54:10 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> defined by you
  60. (01:54:15 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> we defined them differently
  61. (01:54:16 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Hinoarashi> You're violating the only thing stopping a colon stomping.
  62. (01:54:33 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> traditionally in bilateral border negotiations both parties have to sit down and talk out borders
  63. (01:54:39 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> hino
  64. (01:54:42 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Hinoarashi> We can and will pursue a second battle if the borders are not respected.
  65. (01:55:00 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> pursue whatever you liek
  66. (01:55:03 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> I dont care
  67. (01:55:04 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Hinoarashi> Okay.
  68. (01:55:19 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Hinoarashi> That would nullify the treaty of the somerset and bring back the state of war.
  69. (01:55:40 PM) Tomoko: .list
  70. (01:55:40 PM) Spock: [alpha] Online (10/100): Chuck_Fiinley, claire, Hinoarashi, Jinxauthor_Mel, Me0w, monocle_s, niller1703, Shakomatic, sonnenschein88, Tengo
  71. (01:55:41 PM) Spock: [eight] Online (0/-1):
  72. (01:55:42 PM) Spock: [oceania] Online (0/-1):
  73. (01:55:43 PM) Spock: [lobby] Online (0/100):
  74. (01:55:44 PM) Spock: [seven] Online (0/-1):
  75. (01:55:49 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Hinoarashi> Our original demand remains in place.
  76. (01:55:59 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Hinoarashi> When is an okay time for you to conduct the second battle?
  77. (01:56:10 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> you are calling a nullification of this treaty
  78. (01:56:20 PM) Tomoko: You're the one violating it
  79. (01:56:23 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> because you disagree with someone who didnt even sign it?
  80. (01:56:26 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Hinoarashi> Yes, if you are refusing to acknowledge the borders of Altschwabenland, it's a violation.
  81. (01:56:32 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> I never signed that treay tomoko
  82. (01:56:33 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Hinoarashi> The Commonwealth has.
  83. (01:56:45 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> the commonwealth is a military alliance hino
  84. (01:56:54 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Hinoarashi> And we declared war on it.
  85. (01:56:56 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> it has no right over my soverignty
  86. (01:57:12 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Hinoarashi> You raise a good case for why we'd still be at war, actually.
  87. (01:57:19 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Chuck_Fiinley> you always have these shitty clay talks
  88. (01:57:49 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Hinoarashi> The treaty says we agree not to so long as it's respected.
  89. (01:57:53 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Hinoarashi> Your side is not respecting it.
  90. (01:58:01 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Hinoarashi> Ergo; there is no peace.
  91. (01:58:08 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> whatever
  92. (01:58:16 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Hinoarashi> When is an okay time for a second battle for you then?
  93. (01:58:21 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> lol
  94. (01:58:42 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> why would I organize a battle with barbarians
  95. (01:58:46 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> thats beneath me
  96. (01:58:47 PM) Spock: [lobby] Tomoko joined the game.
  97. (01:58:48 PM) Spock: [lobby] Tomoko joined the server.
  98. (01:58:51 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Hinoarashi> So you're refusing?
  99. (01:58:55 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Hinoarashi> Yes or no.
  100. (01:58:56 PM) Spock: [alpha] Tomoko joined the server.
  101. (01:59:28 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> hino
  102. (01:59:32 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> as far as i am concerned
  103. (01:59:40 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> the republic of ender isnt even a country
  104. (01:59:47 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Hinoarashi> That doesn't matter.
  105. (01:59:54 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> since it has not joined the international community
  106. (01:59:55 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Hinoarashi> Are you refusing the declaration?
  107. (02:00:00 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> hino hino hino
  108. (02:00:13 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Hinoarashi> If you are, I'm prepared to bring this before a political officer.
  109. (02:00:14 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> if you should have learned everything in the year youve been on this server
  110. (02:00:18 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Hinoarashi> Expect to be disolved.
  111. (02:00:26 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> its that the only thing that matters is my opinion
  112. (02:00:34 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> "disolved"
  113. (02:00:37 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> lol
  114. (02:00:40 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Hinoarashi> https://dev-urandom.eu/nations:alphas_realm_nationhood
  115. (02:00:44 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Hinoarashi> Here is some reading material.
  116. (02:00:45 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> the staff tried that once
  117. (02:00:49 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> it didnt work
  118. (02:00:54 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Tomoko> https://dev-urandom.eu/treaties:somm-wyn
  119. (02:01:00 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Hinoarashi> https://dev-urandom.eu/battles:rules_of_engagement
  120. (02:01:05 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> go do whatever you barbarins do hino
  121. (02:01:13 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> leave the politics to the big boys
  122. (02:01:15 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Hinoarashi> You must accept or surrender.
  123. (02:01:29 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Hinoarashi> If you refuse, you are reverted back to settlement status.
  124. (02:01:40 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Hinoarashi> And that's only by special exemption by a political officer.
  125. (02:02:19 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> you do you hino
  126. (02:02:35 PM) Spock: [alpha] sonnenschein88 left the game.
  127. (02:03:11 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Hinoarashi> Tomoko, should special pardon be given to Badface and Winterlyn for respecting it?
  128. (02:03:23 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Tomoko> I believe so
  129. (02:04:00 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Tomoko> Since they upheld their section of the treaty
  130. (02:04:12 PM) Spock: [lobby] yeti30 joined the game.
  131. (02:04:13 PM) Spock: [lobby] yeti30 joined the server.
  132. (02:04:28 PM) Spock: [alpha] yeti30 joined the server.
  133. (02:04:59 PM) Spock: [lobby] Koduck joined the game.
  134. (02:05:00 PM) Spock: [lobby] Koduck joined the server.
  135. (02:05:09 PM) Spock: [alpha] Koduck joined the server.
  136. (02:05:14 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> hi enton
  137. (02:05:18 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Koduck> sup
  138. (02:05:24 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> not much
  139. (02:05:33 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> you gonna build that truck factory?
  140. (02:05:48 PM) Spock: [lobby] dmigis joined the game.
  141. (02:05:49 PM) Spock: [lobby] dmigis joined the server.
  142. (02:05:53 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Koduck> i don't know if it makes much sense, but it can be interesting
  143. (02:05:54 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Koduck> http://abload.de/img/2015-06-18_23.03.538ra2b.png
  144. (02:06:03 PM) Spock: [alpha] dmigis joined the server.
  145. (02:06:21 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Koduck> btw, i only intend to intervene in political matters when things get completely out of control
  146. (02:06:23 PM) Spock: [alpha] dmigis left the game.
  147. (02:06:24 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Koduck> let me get that clear
  148. (02:06:35 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> lol is that a tank
  149. (02:06:38 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Koduck> yep
  150. (02:06:41 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Hinoarashi> Enton, are a political officer?
  151. (02:06:42 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> noice
  152. (02:06:43 PM) Spock: [lobby] dmigis joined the game.
  153. (02:06:44 PM) Spock: [lobby] dmigis joined the server.
  154. (02:06:48 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Koduck> what
  155. (02:07:06 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Hinoarashi> Is it just PPA, Vlad, and Rosen?
  156. (02:07:13 PM) Spock: [alpha] dmigis joined the server.
  157. (02:07:15 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Koduck> yeah, as far as i know
  158. (02:07:20 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Hinoarashi> Alright cool.
  159. (02:07:33 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Koduck> i'm not, and that's why i'm going to stay out except for some moderation business if necessary
  160. (02:07:41 PM) Spock: [alpha] dmigis left the game.
  161. (02:07:45 PM) Spock: [alpha] yeti30 left the game.
  162. (02:08:21 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> ENTON
  163. (02:08:24 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> ILLEGAL PVP
  164. (02:08:28 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> THE GROUND ATTACKED ME
  165. (02:08:32 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Koduck> kek
  166. (02:08:39 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Jinxauthor_Mel> P-vp
  167. (02:08:40 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> :----d
  168. (02:08:41 PM) Spock: [lobby] yeti30 joined the game.
  169. (02:08:42 PM) Spock: [lobby] yeti30 joined the server.
  170. (02:08:47 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Jinxauthor_Mel> groundplayer, eh?
  171. (02:08:51 PM) Spock: [alpha] yeti30 joined the server.
  172. (02:08:53 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> pve really
  173. (02:08:55 PM) Spock: [lobby] dmigis joined the game.
  174. (02:08:56 PM) Spock: [lobby] dmigis joined the server.
  175. (02:08:57 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Hinoarashi> Before making it official now, will you respect the borders of Altschwabenland?
  176. (02:09:06 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Jinxauthor_Mel> that's illegal E-vp
  177. (02:09:08 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> >offical
  178. (02:09:11 PM) Spock: [alpha] dmigis joined the server.
  179. (02:09:12 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> >barbarians
  180. (02:09:13 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> kek
  181. (02:09:15 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Hinoarashi> I want to make it fun then.
  182. (02:09:23 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Hinoarashi> Since the leadership of the Commonwealth and Breshik cannot be rational.
  183. (02:09:37 PM) GlitchyBat: I hereby declare you man and wife
  184. (02:09:38 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> yeah hino
  185. (02:09:39 PM) Spock: [alpha] dmigis left the game.
  186. (02:09:40 PM) GlitchyBat: you may kiss the bride
  187. (02:09:44 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Hinoarashi> Shakomatic, this is a declaration of war from Battx. Our demand is an unconditional surrender.
  188. (02:09:49 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> I am not a pushover
  189. (02:09:52 PM) Spock: [lobby] dmigis joined the game.
  190. (02:09:53 PM) Spock: [lobby] dmigis joined the server.
  191. (02:10:04 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> I really dont care about the stuff you guys do
  192. (02:10:07 PM) Spock: [alpha] dmigis joined the server.
  193. (02:10:16 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> I never have, never will
  194. (02:10:17 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Hinoarashi> Do you accept or surrender?
  195. (02:10:26 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> so do your thing hino
  196. (02:10:35 PM) Spock: [alpha] dmigis left the game.
  197. (02:10:40 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Hinoarashi> Save the log, Glitchy. :DD
  198. (02:10:46 PM) Spock: [lobby] dmigis joined the game.
  199. (02:10:47 PM) Spock: [lobby] dmigis joined the server.
  200. (02:10:50 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Hinoarashi> We will have destroyed Breshik without firing a single shot.
  201. (02:10:53 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> as it is said in the great book of grudges burried away in karak sakor
  202. (02:11:15 PM) Spock: [lobby] dmigis left the game.
  203. (02:11:16 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> "long after the seas dry up, the winds stop and the sun goes out
  204. (02:11:23 PM) Spock: [alpha] <Shakomatic> there will shako be, playing minecraft"
  205. (02:11:25 PM) Spock: [lobby] dmigis joined the game.
  206. (02:11:26 PM) Spock: [lobby] dmigis joined the server.
  207. (02:11:32 PM) Spock: [alpha] Tomoko left the game.
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