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Nov 07 20:06:07 *	Topic for #mtgox set by neofutur!~neofutur@mtgox/staff/pdpc.student.ne0futur at Fri Oct 21 00:01:28 2011
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Nov 07 20:16:47 <shockdiode>	excellent question
Nov 07 20:43:22 <Mqrius>	Support replied to me, so I asked the question there. Answer was: "Thank you for letting us know. Our developer is still investigating this issue, but we are making every effort to resolve this. Our apologies once again for the delay and inconvenience caused. Thank you for your kind understanding in this matter."
Nov 07 20:46:03 <shockdiode>	hrm, so we're not sure yet
Nov 07 20:46:11 <shockdiode>	that's unfortunate
Nov 07 20:46:33 <shockdiode>	just did a small test withdrawal and it came through ok
Nov 07 20:46:38 <shockdiode>	I guess it's just really inconsistent?
Nov 07 20:46:43 <cocktopus>	seems to be
Nov 07 20:46:47 <cocktopus>	hasn't bitten me yet
Nov 07 20:52:53 <shockdiode>	hrm.. tried a larger one and it's not showing up yet
Nov 07 21:02:16 <shockdiode>	it would appear I've been bitten by this as well
Nov 07 21:02:26 <shockdiode>	weak
Nov 07 21:02:40 <cocktopus>	sux
Nov 07 21:02:44 <cocktopus>	larger == ??
Nov 07 21:03:04 <shockdiode>	37 and change
Nov 07 21:03:22 <shockdiode>	enough to be concerned about
Nov 07 21:03:40 <cocktopus>	yeah
Nov 07 21:04:08 <shockdiode>	well I've got the transaction reference and it's in my history so I'll get it back I suppose
Nov 07 21:04:19 <shockdiode>	just a drag to have to wait 6 hours for it to try again and hope that works...
Nov 07 21:04:21 <neofutur>	so in the worst case it will just be delayed some hours
Nov 07 21:04:51 <shockdiode>	right... just really curious what's causing that. It seems awfully strange
Nov 07 21:27:38 <phungus>	MagicalTux: has AutoVPS.net always been a Tibanne company? Is it the same infrastructure as Kalyhost? Just curious...
Nov 07 21:27:51 <MagicalTux>	phungus: yes and yes
Nov 07 21:27:55 <phungus>	ok cool
Nov 07 21:27:56 <phungus>	thx
Nov 07 21:27:57 <MagicalTux>	kalyhost accounts can be used on autovps too
Nov 07 21:28:05 <phungus>	ok
Nov 07 23:32:55 <Johan-_->	is anyone having trouble logging into mtgox?
Nov 07 23:42:18 <bitinstant>	mop3
Nov 07 23:51:19 <Johan-_->	is that a nope?
Nov 08 00:30:16 <deego>	Is mtgox down?
Nov 08 00:30:26 <deego>	ah, what Johan-_- wrote.
Nov 08 00:30:52 <Johan-_->	you can't login?
Nov 08 00:31:19 <deego>	no :
Nov 08 00:31:21 <deego>	:(
Nov 08 00:32:15 <Johan-_->	well, that's somewhat of a relief, I guess
Nov 08 00:32:38 <Johan-_->	unless there has been a widespread security problem
Nov 08 00:37:35 <phantomcircuit>	deego, i'll sell you mtgox's true ip address for one lollipop
Nov 08 00:37:56 <phantomcircuit>	competitive advantage for all!
Nov 08 00:38:28 <deego>	lol, wtf ???
Nov 08 00:38:39 <phantomcircuit>	lol
Nov 08 00:38:51 <phantomcircuit>	im super h4x0r
Nov 08 00:39:08 <phantomcircuit>	can trivially circumvent prolexic
Nov 08 00:41:27 <cocktopus>	why is it even accessible on a direct ip
Nov 08 00:41:35 <cocktopus>	sort of defeats the purpose
Nov 08 00:41:56 <phantomcircuit>	because you cant find it
Nov 08 00:42:03 <phantomcircuit>	i am super h4x0r
Nov 08 00:42:04 <phantomcircuit>	lol
Nov 08 00:42:38 <cocktopus>	security by obscurity blah blah blah
Nov 08 00:45:57 <phantomcircuit>	MagicalTux, ^ fyi you should be using iptables
Nov 08 00:46:53 <deego>	Is anyone able to log in at all?
Nov 08 00:46:55 <deego>	and/or trade?
Nov 08 00:47:22 <cocktopus>	i just logged in fine
Nov 08 00:47:43 <cocktopus>	if you had too many failed logins, you might be blocked for 24 hours
Nov 08 00:47:47 <phantomcircuit>	deego, yes i can login
Nov 08 00:47:54 <phantomcircuit>	(through the normal ip)
Nov 08 00:49:55 <deego>	phantomcircuit: thanks.
Nov 08 00:50:02 <deego>	MagicalTux: ping. :)
Nov 08 00:58:59 <deego>	!seen magicaltux
Nov 08 00:58:59 <bitcoinRT>	magicaltux was last seen in #mtgox 3 hours, 31 minutes, and 1 second ago: <MagicalTux> kalyhost accounts can be used on autovps too
Nov 08 00:59:01 <spaola>	deego, magicaltux is right here!
Nov 08 00:59:01 <Title>	magicaltux was last seen in #mtgox 3 hours, 31 minutes, and 1 second ago: <MagicalTux> kalyhost accounts can be used on autovps too
Nov 08 00:59:27 <deego>	Hm, if my IP got banned, I shouldn't have been able to see mtgox.com at all, right?
Nov 08 00:59:34 <deego>	Or, would that affect only the login?
Nov 08 01:01:35 <phantomcircuit>	shouldn't be able to load anything
Nov 08 01:01:57 <deego>	I see
Nov 08 01:09:38 <Johan-_->	that's a little scary
Nov 08 01:09:49 <Ukto>	i miss something?
Nov 08 01:09:50 <Johan-_->	I can see the main page just fine, but I can't login
Nov 08 01:10:01 <deego>	Ukto: Are you able to log in?
Nov 08 01:10:05 <deego>	Johan-_- and I can't.
Nov 08 01:10:08 <Ukto>	lemme cehck
Nov 08 01:10:18 <deego>	OTOH, phantomcircuit can.
Nov 08 01:10:45 <Ukto>	yes
Nov 08 01:10:49 <Ukto>	I can login
Nov 08 01:11:05 <deego>	I see.
Nov 08 01:13:31 <deego>	Ah, wonder if mtgox disabled the old api.
Nov 08 01:13:36 <deego>	I use the old api.
Nov 08 01:13:41 <Johan-_->	i can't manually login through the front page
Nov 08 01:13:55 <deego>	doh. same. forgot that.
Nov 08 01:23:39 <deego>	MagicalTux: Looks like people that use the old API got flagged for DDOS for some reason, and can't even log in via web now.
Nov 08 01:23:53 <deego>	Both Johan-_- and I run very well-behaved bots.
Nov 08 01:24:29 <deego>	flagged for ddos or "bad urls" or something.
Nov 08 01:25:21 <Johan-_->	just guessing at this point, since we've received no communication or information.
Nov 08 01:25:51 <shockdiode>	also... what's up with btc withdrawals... still no definitive word on the delays as far as I can see
Nov 08 01:26:15 <Ukto>	more btc delays?
Nov 08 01:26:24 <Ukto>	or same for the last week_ ?
Nov 08 01:26:26 <Ukto>	+ ?
Nov 08 01:26:27 <shockdiode>	waiting almost 6 hours now - I know you said the transactions are retried after 6 hrs...but it'd be nice to know what's up
Nov 08 01:26:31 <shockdiode>	btc delays yeah
Nov 08 01:26:50 <shockdiode>	waiting on a withdrawal to show up for some time now - others have been having that issue all day apparently
Nov 08 01:27:00 <deego>	:(
Nov 08 01:27:08 <shockdiode>	really weak :(
Nov 08 01:27:40 <Ukto>	shockdiode: pm :)
Nov 08 01:33:14 <MagicalTux>	deego: ?
Nov 08 01:33:47 <deego>	MagicalTux: Johan-_- and I (deego3) can't log in for some reason. strange.
Nov 08 01:33:54 <deego>	Not even through the web
Nov 08 01:34:08 <deego>	(The only thing common for us is that we use the old api.)
Nov 08 01:35:40 <MagicalTux>	the site is quite slow from here
Nov 08 01:35:46 <MagicalTux>	I wouldn't be surprised if it was linked
Nov 08 01:35:59 *	Tomasu is now known as TomasuDlrrp
Nov 08 01:36:12 <deego>	linked?
Nov 08 01:37:47 <shockdiode>	the fact that the site is slow and that you can't log in I believe is what he meant
Nov 08 01:38:02 <Johan-_->	it's not slow for me.
Nov 08 01:38:07 <shockdiode>	odd, seems pretty normal from here
Nov 08 01:38:09 <Johan-_->	it instantly tells me I can't login
Nov 08 01:38:15 <deego>	Same as Johan-_-
Nov 08 01:38:33 <deego>	And, api-wise, I instantly get the message "Error: must be logged in."
Nov 08 01:39:05 <MagicalTux>	we're phoning to prolexic right now
Nov 08 01:39:32 <MagicalTux>	deego: what kind of issue do you have?
Nov 08 01:39:39 <deego>	MagicalTux: Can't log in.
Nov 08 01:39:49 <deego>	either using api or through the website.
Nov 08 01:39:53 <deego>	(api0)
Nov 08 01:39:58 <shockdiode>	any error message through website?
Nov 08 01:40:18 <Johan-_->	Invalid username or password, please try again.
Nov 08 01:40:28 <deego>	Invalid username or password, please try again.
Nov 08 01:40:46 <shockdiode>	huh, doesn't look like the error message you get when you've been blocked
Nov 08 01:40:52 <MagicalTux>	deego: did you add bitcoins recently from another site ?
Nov 08 01:41:05 <deego>	MagicalTux: Only sent from my regular client at home.
Nov 08 01:41:09 <deego>	No other site.
Nov 08 01:41:30 <deego>	(several deposits)
Nov 08 01:41:53 <Johan-_->	I send a lot of deposits from TH and also my client
Nov 08 01:41:55 <MagicalTux>	and you mined those coins yourself ?
Nov 08 01:42:29 <deego>	MagicalTux: Purchased and traded at other exchanges - (not btc-e or bitomat).
Nov 08 01:42:33 <MagicalTux>	deego: I can confirm that some of the coins stolen from allinvain were added to your account
Nov 08 01:42:39 <deego>	Whoa
Nov 08 01:42:45 <shockdiode>	...
Nov 08 01:42:49 <shockdiode>	wow
Nov 08 01:42:49 <deego>	MagicalTux: I have never traded btc with any person.
Nov 08 01:42:53 <deego>	Only through exchanges.
Nov 08 01:43:01 <deego>	tradehill, exchb, the well-known ones.
Nov 08 01:43:03 <MagicalTux>	these were probably sold on TH or any other exchange not helping catch bad guys
Nov 08 01:43:03 <deego>	and intersango
Nov 08 01:43:04 <Johan-_->	same here
Nov 08 01:43:25 <shockdiode>	hrm, so someone finally sold those coins and now these guys are boned?
Nov 08 01:43:34 <MagicalTux>	deego: should work again
Nov 08 01:43:38 <shockdiode>	ah
Nov 08 01:43:49 *	copumpkin bones anyone disappointed with the lack of boning
Nov 08 01:43:50 <deego>	MagicalTux: thanks.
Nov 08 01:44:00 <shockdiode>	lol copumpkin
Nov 08 01:44:10 <MagicalTux>	so now we know coins stolen from allinvain were stolen on either tradehill or intersango
Nov 08 01:44:15 <MagicalTux>	er
Nov 08 01:44:17 <MagicalTux>	were sold*
Nov 08 01:44:18 <shockdiode>	sold
Nov 08 01:44:20 <shockdiode>	yeah
Nov 08 01:44:43 <Johan-_->	well, all mine were from TH
Nov 08 01:44:47 <allinvain>	well I can assure you I heard nothing from the TH admins
Nov 08 01:44:49 <copumpkin>	if they keep good enough records, you might actually be able to track them down
Nov 08 01:44:52 <allinvain>	in regards to any coins recovered
Nov 08 01:45:21 <allinvain>	I don't think they have any intererest or any methods to track them
Nov 08 01:50:56 <deego>	There's been some *large* sells on Tradehill today -  (1) TH should figure out who's doing it.
Nov 08 01:51:08 <deego>	(2) Anyone who bought (I bought a lot!) - are we fscked?
Nov 08 01:51:57 <Johan-_->	well, I would think it doesn't matter if you bought today or last week
Nov 08 01:52:15 <Johan-_->	when you buy on TH, you're just getting TH credit
Nov 08 01:52:24 <deego>	Ah, true.
Nov 08 01:52:28 <Johan-_->	it's when we sent from TH to mtgox, it got taken out of the TH pool
Nov 08 01:52:34 <Johan-_->	and sent to the mtgox pool
Nov 08 01:52:44 <Johan-_->	which we both did at the same time I guess
Nov 08 01:54:50 <phantomcircuit>	MagicalTux, address pl0x