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  1. coolguy12/blckblaze, round 289
  2.  
  3. Coolguy12 denied knowing users linked to his banID who have previously cheated, and denied knowing Blckblaze (also linked to his banID) irl, or having shared accounts with him. Through investigation, we've proven that these statements are false. The evidence is below. These false statements, combined with the way that Coolguy12's and Blckblaze's play in games together indicates that they shared information outside the game when they were the same alignment, conclusively show that Coolguy12 cheated in this round.
  4.  
  5. Coolguy12 says he knows blckblaze only on the site, and doesn't know Dezatron (Redempshen) or Jchucarry (Klutzypebble) at all. Those two players cheated together previously. They all share a banID.
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  7. Most important evidence:
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  9. http://puu.sh/h4sec/d3aef07912.png
  10. Here, Coolguy12 says he doesn't know blckblaze irl, and hasn't shared his account with him at all, or vice-versa. Given how much they've played together, this is simply a lie.
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  12. Blckblaze was in 15/19 of Cool's first full games of the round.
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  14. Then a couple of posts in threads mentioned the possibility of cheating. Then, they mostly stopped playing together (only a few more games were played together, and Blckblaze was on a different account), and only Coolguy12 kept running.
  15.  
  16. Important evidence:
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  18. Blckblaze has played 100+ games with Indigomarker/Coolguy12
  19. Jchucarry has played 20 games with Indigomarker/Coolguy12
  20. Dezatron has played 25 games with Indigomarker/Coolguy12
  21.  
  22. Jchubs is a Jchucarry (banned user/cheater Klutzypebble) alt, and their banID matches very closely (timing-wise) to Indigomarker. This is strong evidence that Jchucarry is indigomarker or they know each other irl.
  23.  
  24. Less important evidence:
  25.  
  26. UserID's:
  27. amulet 441815, jchucarry 443041, redempshen 445375, dezatron 445753, indigomarker 447126
  28.  
  29. Coolguy is indigo, amulet is blckblaze, redempshen is dezatron, and dezatron cheated with jchucarry. The grouped userID's are unlikely to be coincidental, considering they are linked via banID.
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  31. Game evidence against Coolguy12/Blckblaze (note that this focuses on games they played together, as it seemed like both of them were running before Blck stopped playing, so when they were opposite alignments there wouldn't be reliable evidence of cheating):
  32.  
  33. When they are the same alignment, Coolguy12 and Blckblaze are a total 10/10 in reads when one has gy vision - 8/8 as town, and 2/2 in pr reads as mafia. These correct scumreads are confident and quick, and often occur after d1's with no reads or wrong reads.
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  35. When they are town together, they never scumread each other, and often have similar reads, or one scumreads the person who is pushing their friend (e.g. Newjersey foses Cool, then Blck foses Newjersey). See their 3rd, 5th, and 7th games as town together for examples of these this. In the 7th game, Blck asks if Call/Jam are mafia in the gy, then Cool hammers Call (showing that they both fosed her).
  36.  
  37. Town + Town
  38.  
  39. https://epicmafia.com/game/3909396
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  41. W Coolguy dies n1. Rl on a Qesuited (blue) d1, takes <4 minutes. Blck's reads d1: "Arroza and qe are mafia. Anthony and pranay are like 98% time town." First lines of Blck d3: "Fuck. I was wrong. My townreads are so bad. It's pranay." He leads on the other mafia d3 without hesitation, although he may have thought cop had inno on the other person (he wouldn't have thought that if he read closely). Confident, quick 2/2 with potential gy vision.
  42.  
  43. https://epicmafia.com/game/3909470
  44.  
  45. L Nothing here. Coolguy is n1'd, then Amulet is lynched d1.
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  47. https://epicmafia.com/game/3914954
  48.  
  49. W Blckblaze dies n1. Lynch on Metta (miller) d1, takes 9 minutes. Cool's reads d1: a fos on Nothin (nilla). D2, Coolguy claims clear (he may have actually thought he lynched the nilla (because a miller hardclaimed doc d1), which would be evidence against cheating), and follows Giga onto Goucho (gf) quickly. <2 minutes into the day, he confidently says "It's either gaucho/nothin" (both maf). and yells at people to lynch them, without hesitation. He immediately votes Nothin d3. Confident, quick 2/2 with potential gy vision.
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  51. https://epicmafia.com/game/3915002
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  53. W Cop dies n1. A few people bw Cool. He foses Metta (blue), Blck says "Mettaworld is butthurt", then he foses New (gf), and Blck says "Unvote and vote New". Blck loudly insists town votes New, then later foses Martinez (blue) Cyan (nilla). Cool is lynched, and d2 Blck tunnels Cyan, then Cyan/New, with a weak reason for tr'ing Metta. Confident, quick 2/2 with potential gy vision.
  54.  
  55. https://epicmafia.com/game/3915284
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  57. W Nothing really of interest. Blck and cool don't pay any attention to each other, except that Blck pings coolguy early on in the day. When Blckblaze is in the GY and town has a ML, with coolguy cleared, he seems very confident he will win no matter what (since he'll be alive in the 3 way, perhaps). Blckblaze doesn't ask who mafia are. Conclusion: Not really evidence either way
  58.  
  59. https://epicmafia.com/game/3915388
  60.  
  61. W Coolguy and blck are both blue. Miheo is voted by coolguy and Blckblaze, but most of the town votes Coolguy, so Blckblaze asks for unvotes. Coolguy townreads Blck. Coolguy is lynched. Once Coolguy can see mafia he has a hard scumread on Miheo near the beginning of the next day, but quickly sheeps the bw on him without a protest, which is strange. In the 3 way instead of trying to read, he just trolls arounround with Miheo, before crossing her. Conclusion: Minor evidence of cheating. Confident, quick 2/2 with potential gy vision.
  62.  
  63. https://epicmafia.com/game/3915603
  64.  
  65. L Coolguy n1'd. D1, Blck pushes Jamm (gf)/Temp (blue). Cop gets lynched. Blck killed. Not evidence either way.
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  67. https://epicmafia.com/game/3915640
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  69. W Cool cop, Blck doc. Everyone just selfs d1, miller hammered. Blck dies n2, asks "calli and jam are mafia?" when he hits GY. No response. Call (gf) gets hammered. Cool dies.
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  71. https://epicmafia.com/game/3929294
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  73. W Doc dies n1. Both are blue. Amulet votes Maymay (gf) d1, then Coolguy does. Coolguy doesn't talk all d1. Amulet dies n2. Cool says nearly nothing all day. Cop mishammers, Cool dies n3, then town wins on lylo.
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  75. https://epicmafia.com/game/3931007
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  77. W Cool is cop, Amulet is doc. Am gets a save n1. Cool talks all d1, while Amulet says nearly nothing. Cool asks Akira (gf) to claim, and they claim doc. No one cc's, but Cool hammers them. At this point, if Amulet gets killed, it's autowin for Cool if he is cheating with Amulet, because Amulet saved Cyan and he has Tim inno (and clear). Therefore, it's not weird that he checks Amulet. Win.
  78.  
  79.  
  80. Town v. Mafia
  81.  
  82. https://epicmafia.com/game/3909363
  83.  
  84. L Nothing interesting here.
  85.  
  86. https://epicmafia.com/game/3909420
  87.  
  88. W Only notable thing - Blck lynched d1, then Cool dies n2 and doesn't ask who maf is.
  89.  
  90.  
  91. Mafia v. Town
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  93. https://epicmafia.com/game/3915350
  94.  
  95. L Nothing very interesting here. On 3 way, cool (gf) votes Blck, and he crosses - not that much scumhunting goes on.
  96.  
  97. https://epicmafia.com/game/3915446
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  99. L Cool votes first to nk n1, then claims cop d1 - "bored of trophy running". In post-game, after voting wrong on 5 way with ml (other towns voted correctly), Blck spams "TOWNISTRASH" - weird.
  100.  
  101. https://epicmafia.com/game/3918380
  102.  
  103. W Nothing very interesting here.
  104.  
  105. https://epicmafia.com/game/3929319
  106.  
  107. L Amulet is cop. Cool's partner picks him to be n1'd. Cool gets lynched d1, and loses anyway.
  108.  
  109. https://epicmafia.com/game/3931007
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  111. W Amulet is cop. This is a weird game. Amulet hammers a blue d1, checks Cool n2, and hammers him anyway. Cool said nothing at all d1, and only said ":3" d2. Cool's partner wins on lylo. This game took place after people had mentioned Cool/Blck potentially cheating in threads.
  112.  
  113. Mafia + Mafia
  114.  
  115. https://epicmafia.com/game/3909426
  116.  
  117. L Glacial saves Cash n1. They have a pretty good d1 roleswap - Glacial never even softs that he saved Cash n1, and Cash outs as doc saying he saved Glacial. However, Coolguy gets lynched d1 and Blckblaze kills Glacial n2 - indicates gy vision. Decent evidence of cheating.
  118.  
  119. https://epicmafia.com/game/3918407
  120.  
  121. W No save n1. Cop asks for doc to out, for some reason. Synical is the only one who outs, but it's an obviously fake claim (they say they saved the dead n1 kill). They don't selfvote, however. Blckblaze gets hammered. Doc dies. Minor evidence of cheating.
  122.  
  123.  
  124.  
  125. PM's with Coolguy12:
  126.  
  127. Runner investigation
  128. Hi coolguy12,
  129. I'm starting to investigate players who have a good shot at trophying this round, and just have a question after looking at a couple your games this round. You've played a lot with blckblaze; is he a friend of yours (just on the site or in real life)?
  130. Thanks, ~Polo
  131.  
  132. idk how to reply lel
  133. haha yeah ik him from the site. idk him irl though.
  134.  
  135. more questions (sorry)
  136. hello again,
  137. It looks like you're going to trophy. Congrats! I have to ask some more questions now though, so please take 5-10 minutes and answer them; thanks.
  138. Do you sometimes or always play on an IP that you would share with a lot of people, like a college campus or proxy?
  139. Do you have any alts? What are they?
  140. Did you have a main account before coolguy12 (if this is your current main)?
  141. Do you know the accounts Jchucarry and Dezatron? Are/were you friends with them irl or on epicmafia.com?
  142. Answer these as soon as you get the chance, please :) so I can check this off the list of end-of-round things to take care of. Thanks,
  143. ~Polo
  144.  
  145. yepp i play at my school a lot and my alt is indigomarker. i ended up switching my main to indigomarker actually because my coolguy winrate is crap kek. i think i've seen jchucarry before when i tried to login at school. it was like a message saying i couldn't login because someone had already logged in at the same ip or something like that.
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