[23:32:47]	Zio	Heyo Kuda
[23:32:51]	Keileon	Hi
[23:33:07]	Zio	needed review rp things?
[23:33:13]	Keileon	We're... attempting to CP, but Dark vanished...
[23:33:14]	Keileon	Yeah
[23:33:17]	Keileon	Sec
[23:34:06]	Keileon	Near the end is Vodera-relevant stuff:  http://puu.sh/pVogt/5ba50e9990.txt
[23:34:30]	Keileon	Er, middle rather
[23:35:09]	Keileon	Most important line is this:
[23:35:10]	Keileon	[2016-07-07 02:27:49] <Keileon> An actual alliance that lasts long enough to create the Firedrake, then the Vodera decide they want to actually rule
[23:35:24]	Keileon	Also did you get my text
[23:38:35]	Zio	Yes I did; finished readimg
[23:38:40]	Zio	*reading
[23:39:28]	Zio	So I've indeed thought more over how that special circumstance would play out
[23:39:49]	Keileon	??
[23:39:59]	Zio	One sex
[23:40:03]	Zio	........
[23:40:04]	Keileon	lol
[23:40:06]	LordXGigaX	Good job!
[23:40:07]	Zio	sec......
[23:40:22]	Keileon	Don't worry I have to make sure I hit the right key every time I say sec too
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[23:40:58]	Ziolang	much better
[23:41:07]	Ziolang	Give me the infodump again?
[23:41:17]	Keileon	http://puu.sh/pVogt/5ba50e9990.txt
[23:41:32]	Ziolang	Ok so let's talk drei
[23:41:36]	Keileon	Yes
[23:41:50]	Ziolang	Prime, Alter and Drei I think all have the same "origin" story
[23:42:08]	Ziolang	[Shadow I hope you're here for this]
[23:42:12]	Keileon	(Shadow, you're up if you plan to post again)
[23:42:22]	Shadow	I'm done for tonight
[23:42:25]	Shadow	and yes
[23:42:25]	Keileon	kk
[23:43:22]	Ziolang	That is to say that the Demons become their interplanetary invading selves, probably more along the lines of testing their own limits and less about actual conquering
[23:43:39]	Ziolang	This happening the same in each timeline
[23:43:48]	Ziolang	The split happens with Hirasu
[23:43:49]	LordXGigaX	Welp, this was a waste
[23:43:59]	Keileon	Well, at least something happened
[23:45:03]	Ziolang	Prime and Alter timelines follow the route that Hirasu melts into the Aether and the Demons try to find a new way to efficiently command Vorpal without the risk of following suit. eg, Kivorde
[23:45:41]	Keileon	(Sidebar: is the e in Kivorde pronounced or silent?)
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[23:46:00]	Ziolang	Drei follows the route that rather than Hirasu melting into Vorpal, Vorpal essentially melts into him, creating deity!Hirasu
[23:46:15]	Ziolang	[kee-vor-day]
[23:46:17]	Keileon	kk
[23:46:25]	Ziolang	With a rolled r
[23:47:38]	Ziolang	I believe it's /after/ Hirasu gains the deity! tag that the Vodera start their imperial conquest
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[23:48:35]	Ziolang	So long story short, Euthora would become affiliated with Deveron /before/ deity!Hirasu is a thing, they dump their dragons there as per the other timelines and everything is happy happy joy joy.
[23:49:03]	Keileon	And then they start conquesting and Euthora is a liability?
[23:50:09]	Ziolang	Then however many decades/centuries later, Hirasu gets his deity! tag and the conquest begins. Initially they probably maintain their alliance due to the honor-nature of Vodera, but by SCT Euthora's usefulness would be under heavy consideration
[23:50:21]	Ziolang	If not already being invaded
[23:50:27]	Keileon	Mmm
[23:50:41]	Ziolang	That help fit your needs?
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[23:51:01]	Keileon	Depending on when it all happens- either push that to 700 pre-SCT or Sundavr/Koth can get pushed forward
[23:51:04]	Ziolang	This is like CoU the MMO
[23:51:14]	Keileon	Or both
[23:51:24]	Keileon	I don't want them too close to SCT
[23:51:47]	Ziolang	Well all I meant by "by SCT" is that anytime before then this could happen
[23:51:55]	Keileon	Alright then
[23:51:58]	Ziolang	deity!Hirasu is millenia before SCT
[23:52:08]	Keileon	Ah yeah, that works then
[23:52:24]	Keileon	Have them start to invade Euthora as Koth and Sundavr start to rise to power
[23:52:36]	Ziolang	Fine by me~
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[23:53:02]	Ziolang	I wanna play this as an MMO now...
[23:53:34]	Keileon	With the self-proclaimed kings being dragon-tier entitled and arrogant, neither will like that the Vodera are taking over and their rise to power- while ultimately quelled by Shyr- still sparks a resistance movement
[23:54:09]	Ziolang	>Empire vs Rebels; in space
[23:54:14]	Ziolang	Where have I seen this before?
[23:54:28]	Ziolang	Vodera need a death star now
[23:54:33]	Keileon	(I say entitled because Euthoran dragons are pretty much semi-divine by nature- they're like Elder Scrolls dragons in that sense)
[23:54:54]	Keileon	Although those dragons are literally lesser gods
[23:55:13]	Ziolang	That die like plebs
[23:56:14]	Keileon	Only because the one person that can kill them not only happens to be there, but either focused all their skill into archery or kept making potions that increased their enchanting that increased their alchemy that inc-- *shot*
[23:56:27]	Ziolang	lol
[23:56:47]	Ziolang	so yeah
[23:56:49]	Ziolang	drei
[23:56:51]	Keileon	yes
[23:56:53]	Keileon	drei
[23:57:09]	Keileon	I'm actually looking forward to Drei being /in action/
[23:57:13]	Keileon	rather than just this dev
[23:57:15]	Keileon	Also
[23:57:26]	Keileon	I have no idea what side Shiveztel will be on.
[23:58:12]	Ziolang	So let's gossip then
[23:58:20]	Keileon	??
[23:58:30]	Ziolang	How much of the known manaverse would be apart of the war?
[23:58:38]	Ziolang	*a part
[23:59:31]	Keileon	Vindrgard fighting the Vodera, Euthora torn, Ceskion either a mercenary-type ally or just avoiding the fight altogether
[00:00:07]	Keileon	I know Crysia's going to fight because Shadow confirmed it, and Shadow also doesn't want to consider the ramifications of Phantasia being vorpalized
[00:00:26]	Ziolang	Deveron the hub, Boravel wrecked, dream!world probably undiscovered
[00:00:33]	Ziolang	That covers my worlds I think
[00:00:44]	Keileon	I think Dark mentioned Ferona wouldn't know what to do, Starr's trying to stay out of it-- Boravel?-- and Giga doesn't yet care enough
[00:01:12]	Keileon	Rinul, Daeridune, and most of all /Terra/ are interesting unknowns to consider
[00:01:15]	Ziolang	Boravel is a pet project of mine on the back burner while I dev dream!world.
[00:01:18]	Keileon	Ah
[00:01:38]	Ziolang	You remember the premise of dream!world, right?
[00:01:43]	Keileon	We could make it so that- yes
[00:01:51]	Keileon	-- Rinul is never destroyed.
[00:02:14]	Ziolang	World influenced-- oooooooh --by child's dreams. That child is from Boravel.
[00:02:16]	Keileon	And I'm almost 100% certain the Ereva would join Vindrgard and Crysia if they even find out what's happening
[00:02:32]	Ziolang	I would love to see Rinul alive and involved
[00:02:38]	Keileon	Shadow get in here
[00:02:49]	Ziolang	Cause then we could see a combat-ready Rinul
[00:02:52]	Keileon	^
[00:02:57]	Ziolang	Something I haven't imagined
[00:02:59]	Keileon	And the best part
[00:03:01]	Shadow	what the helll is Boravel
[00:03:17]	Keileon	Is that both of the main worlds fighting the Vodera are heavily Mana-based
[00:03:18]	Ziolang	seal!world
[00:03:25]	Keileon	Which means Rinul would fit in perfectly
[00:03:33]	Ziolang	Rinul could prove a huge asset
[00:04:01]	Ziolang	They could collaborate with Phantasia to study and counteract Vorpal
[00:04:24]	Keileon	Especially since using Mana to normalize Vorpalized worlds is probably a huge facet of how the resistance is fighting
[00:04:31]	Ziolang	Develop mana-protection systems and what-not to combat vorpalization
[00:05:20]	Ziolang	I still need to name dream!world
[00:05:40]	Ziolang	Slumberland
[00:05:46]	Ziolang	Fantasia
[00:05:50]	Keileon	leiobea
[00:06:02]	Ziolang	what even
[00:06:11]	Keileon	(don't actually use that)
[00:06:20]	Ziolang	Texas
[00:06:51]	Shadow	>collaborate with Phantasia
[00:06:55]	Shadow	Phantasia is no more
[00:07:00]	Ziolang	oh?
[00:07:16]	Ziolang	What'chu talkin bout?
[00:07:24]	Keileon	You admitted that you don't know what'd happen to Phantasia in Drei
[00:07:27]	Shadow	I think you guys missed the part where I said that Phantasia is RIP in any timeline when FM doesn't happen
[00:07:52]	Ziolang	Want me to nuke it?
[00:07:56]	Shadow	No, I said I didn't know what'd happen if Vorpal got somehow involved after the fact
[00:07:57]	Ziolang	Have it go out in style?
[00:08:06]	Shadow	It's already pretty much nuked itself tbh
[00:08:16]	Ziolang	welp
[00:08:18]	Ziolang	gg
[00:08:23]	Keileon	1. we don't even know if FM happens or not and 2. you said Phantasia being Vorpalized before FM would change things so much you don't want to think of the consequences
[00:08:49]	Shadow	...
[00:08:58]	Shadow	>FM happening with Shadow in Crysia
[00:08:58]	Keileon	No, I remember very clearly.
[00:08:59]	Shadow	?????????????????
[00:09:03]	Keileon	o
[00:09:05]	Keileon	right
[00:09:08]	Keileon	forgot that detail
[00:09:09]	Shadow	jesus fuck
[00:09:20]	Keileon	To be FAIR I have no idea when that happens
[00:09:36]	Keileon	I just know it /does/ happen
[00:09:46]	Shadow	By DEFINITION, Shadow's story path in Drei does not include FM
[00:09:47]	Shadow	At all
[00:09:56]	Keileon	okay
[00:09:57]	Keileon	but
[00:09:59]	Ziolang	I should get back to world dev so I can get my other two worlds in the wiki
[00:10:04]	Keileon	my second point stands
[00:10:22]	Keileon	because I /know/ I asked what'd happen if Vorpal was involved /before/ FM
[00:10:24]	Ziolang	Especially since Benson is from [REDACTED]
[00:11:05]	Ziolang	>Phantasia is vorpal'd before Shadow is even An Thing
[00:11:08]	Shadow	Okay ignoring that, as for 2. I meant that the consequences of Phantasia being Vorpalized around the time of FM would change things very unpredictably, but elaborating more than that is FM spoilers so I fundamentally can't
[00:11:13]	Ziolang	Just... imagine that
[00:11:27]	Keileon	Alright then
[00:11:52]	Shadow	So tl;dr Phantasia's out
[00:11:57]	Keileon	Also speaking of FM
[00:12:07]	Keileon	I want to ask if a Daivam mechanic works
[00:12:15]	Shadow	???
[00:12:26]	Ziolang	Wait if I have Boravel vorpal'd in drei, that just means drei!dream!world isn't affected by little girl's dreams... which means drei!dream!world is just... "world"
[00:14:08]	Keileon	I had the idea that Daivam is completely removed from any energy cycle except an eternal one- the VE acts like actual blood, instead of just replacing it, and it sort of infinitely regenerates itself when Daivam uses "magic" (not fast enough to create an automatic mana cycle in statform until maybe third job idk) and to prevent the VE from just lingering in the world when he uses it it just...
[00:14:08]	Keileon	...gets normalized quickly
[00:14:16]	Keileon	That was longer than I planned
[00:14:27]	Keileon	And it probably makes little sense in my haste to condense it
[00:14:54]	Keileon	*internal but eternal works too
[00:14:54]	Shadow	I understood almost none of that
[00:15:49]	Keileon	tl;dr Daivam runs entirely off an internal "mana pool" and would then, for example, be /completely/ unaffected if the world around him was Vorpalized
[00:16:53]	Ziolang	aether man
[00:17:30]	Shadow	Okay, but where is the energy from regeneration coming from?
[00:19:00]	Keileon	Blood cells are infinitely replenished by the body (unless you lose so much that you'd die first). The VE literally replaced Daivam's blood. It wouldn't be fast enough that he would be regaining VE every turn but it'd be enough to keep him sustaind over time.
[00:20:11]	Keileon	Think of his circulation system being a physical Mana cycle or something, I guess
[00:21:18]	Shadow	Blood cells are infinitely replenished by the body because the body is expending energy to do so. Daivam works because VE literally assimilates the surrounding Mana to indefinitely sustain his body, but it's not like the energy is being created from nothing
[00:21:33]	Keileon	Ah, okay
[00:21:39]	Keileon	Was worth asking
[00:21:45]	Shadow	However even so I don't think he'd be affected by Vorpal anyway
[00:21:49]	Shadow	so this is all moot
[00:22:00]	Keileon	Because VE and Vorpal are both just variants of Mana?
[00:22:30]	Shadow	Yeah. It's close enough that it might just work. Hell maybe it even works with Prana too
[00:22:38]	Keileon	Alright then
[00:23:15]	Keileon	Also I still have this dumb mental image of Daivam floating in space after Phantasia gg's
[00:23:22]	Shadow	LOL
[00:23:30]	Keileon	Unless he follows Shadow to Crysia which is unlikely
[00:23:37]	Shadow	Phantasia is still physically /there/ (I think)
[00:23:43]	Shadow	Just... uninhabitable
[00:24:16]	Keileon	Uninhabitable to the point where Daivam would gg or would he just wander around alone and confined to a new sort of hell
[00:26:17]	Shadow	Either the first or the second in that "new sort of hell" involves reviving and dying forever
[00:26:28]	Keileon	oh god
[00:26:36]	Keileon	I kind of prefer that second one tbh
[00:27:19]	Shadow	yeah same
[00:27:31]	Keileon	Poor Daivam
[00:27:39]	Ziolang	haha sap
[00:27:43]	Keileon	Hopefully someone'll manage to find and rescue him
[00:27:52]	Shadow	Probably not
[00:28:38]	Keileon	How long would he be able to survive for? Maybe he can make his way off the planet somehow between deaths
[00:29:22]	Shadow	I don't know, probably not for long tbh. Or... well, this is what I mean by Drei!Phantasia being unpredictable because I do see a way to save him but [REDACTED]
[00:29:32]	Keileon	Ah
[00:30:18]	Shadow	Until I get FM to the point where I can reveal the spoilers, Phantasia's involvement in Drei will have to be minimal and very vague, it seems
[00:30:33]	Shadow	Might as well not consider it at all
[00:30:36]	Keileon	I'm guessing that Phantasia's basically subject to metaphysical super-radiation that'll kill someone in minutes
[00:30:38]	Shadow	For the time being
[00:31:25]	Keileon	and daivam survives through DETERMINATION
[00:31:43]	Ziolang	get out
[00:31:49]	Keileon	Zio Undertale
[00:31:58]	Ziolang	kuda grandia
[00:32:05]	Keileon	Especially because you don't fully get the reference
[00:32:16]	Keileon	I'll Grandia when you at least finish Pacifist
[00:32:24]	Ziolang	pls
[00:32:27]	Keileon	We've established this
[00:32:33]	Keileon	Shadow help me out here
[00:33:02]	Shadow	>I'll play [x] but only if you play [y]
[00:33:12]	Shadow	we really are pretty autistic about recommendations
[00:33:18]	Keileon	Well I mean
[00:33:38]	Keileon	He's still making his way through Snowdin
[00:33:39]	Shadow	(no but finish Undertale)
[00:33:42]	Keileon	c'mon
[00:33:45]	Ziolang	what words would you use to describe a planet that is abundant in plant life?
[00:33:52]	Keileon	green
[00:33:56]	Shadow	plant
[00:34:07]	Ziolang	lush?
[00:34:10]	Keileon	a vegan's dream
[00:34:11]	Ziolang	vibrant?
[00:34:18]	Keileon	Lush yeah
[00:35:16]	Keileon	Anyway
[00:35:30]	Keileon	Daeridune and Terra are interesting to consider in Drei
[00:36:42]	Shadow	Why Terra?
[00:37:22]	Ziolang	because reasons
[00:37:25]	Ziolang	obviously
[00:37:45]	Ziolang	each of you pick a number between 3 and 9
[00:37:50]	Keileon	Because imagine if, in real-world earth, a race of winged near-demonic-looking creatures suddenly took over your world, introducing some odd form of magic
[00:37:52]	Keileon	5
[00:37:55]	Shadow	3.1416
[00:38:01]	Keileon	of course
[00:38:39]	Ziolang	I think you misunderstand post-deity invasion tactics
[00:39:14]	Shadow	Terra is interesting to consider only for the fact that it's comparatively remote from other worlds and there's a Reality Marble surrounding it
[00:39:27]	Ziolang	The Vodera empire is less about subjugation and more about occupation. Inhabitants have to have some pretty darn compelling reasons to not be exterminated
[00:39:37]	Keileon	Ah
[00:39:45]	Keileon	So basically rip terrans
[00:39:52]	Ziolang	pretty much
[00:40:08]	Ziolang	Vodera empire is basically space nazis
[00:40:09]	Keileon	... Wait that's... interesting to consider nonetheless
[00:40:18]	Keileon	If only because of certain characters
[00:40:38]	Shadow	Actually wait, according to crazE his main is supposed to fulfill his Terra-original story route in Drei so yes actually
[00:40:51]	Keileon	Depending on when this would happen- iirc Giga for example was born on Terra, and then there's Craz yeah
[00:41:10]	Ziolang	4 or 5 continents...
[00:41:26]	Ziolang	Planets probably... 60/40 water/land ratio
[00:41:32]	Keileon	And Terra isn't /completely/ isolated from Manaverse mechanics. There's the stuff we were going to explore in F/LT, and there's crazEcorp...
[00:41:49]	Shadow	That's not what I mean
[00:42:02]	Shadow	Isolated =/= having things happen in it
[00:42:03]	Keileon	I know- I'm thinking aloud
[00:42:07]	Ziolang	let's do five
[00:43:04]	Ziolang	oh right. duh. there's definitely five
[00:43:35]	Ziolang	Or was there four with one split in half?
[00:43:42]	Ziolang	sigh I'm confusing myself
[00:49:09]	Shadow	Either way... Daeridune, I don't know. We need to develop the planet more in general
[00:49:36]	Keileon	Yes
[00:49:46]	Shadow	The entirety of Starrworlds are out for retarded reasons so there's only Giga's worlds to consider plus Ferona
[00:51:00]	Keileon	Like I said, Giga doesn't care yet and I /think/ Dark said Ferona would be torn
[00:51:32]	Keileon	In fact it's pretty much impossible that Ferona /wouldn't/ be involved since it's in the same system as Euthora and Ceskion
[00:51:33]	Shadow	So that's about it, I guess
[00:51:46]	Keileon	I want to think more about Rinul
[00:53:02]	Shadow	You're going with Rinul not being destroyed in Drei, yes? That probably has much bigger consequences than you might think
[00:53:16]	Keileon	Probably. Which is why I want to think about it.
[00:53:23]	Ziolang	malice vs vorpal gogogoggogogogogogogogogogogogogog
[00:53:31]	Keileon	Haha oh god
[00:53:53]	Keileon	Well, there are a couple things we could consider
[00:54:02]	Keileon	1. The dimensional bubble is never broken
[00:54:37]	Keileon	2. The Ereva somehow find out what's going on in the universe outside the bubble- maybe the Vodera get in somehow idk
[00:54:39]	Ziolang	3. Tiran dies
[00:55:08]	Keileon	Then it's just high-Mana-affinity Ereva vs Vodera attempting to Vorpalize the world
[00:55:21]	Keileon	Which really, sounds like an intense war
[00:55:54]	Keileon	In fact I think the Vorpal would normalize faster than the Vodera can take over, all things considered
[00:56:52]	Keileon	>Fang/Tasc/Ralara/Aravera existing beyond their destruction-based motives
[00:56:54]	Keileon	aaaaaa
[00:57:13]	Ziolang	>Ralara never being adopted
[00:57:21]	Ziolang	>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ralara never being adopted
[00:57:23]	Shadow	Fang would just be a normal pleb
[00:57:31]	Keileon	tascera would have a tail
[00:57:47]	Keileon	Tasc would /still/ be a technopath too
[00:58:42]	Keileon	I dunno, maybe they can do their thing in response to the vodera invasion
[00:59:08]	Ziolang	But there'd be no Ralara... it'd just be Tasc and Fang...
[00:59:09]	Keileon	Aravera wouldn't turn to Malice though, which makes me... need to consider an entirely different side of her
[00:59:11]	Ziolang	so sad...
[01:00:53]	Keileon	I wonder what it'd mean for the Skycrowns
[01:01:26]	Ziolang	Rowan and Kala would be happily married with their kid(s)
[01:01:29]	Keileon	Aryn would be an adult at SCT but the rest depends on how far back we need to go to keep Rinul from being destroyed
[01:01:58]	Ziolang	>inb4 rowan/kala/ralara killed in invasion
[01:02:20]	Keileon	If it's as far as keeping Tiran's group from even forming? Kyllan would be alive and Aryn might not even know Rowan, afaik
[01:03:08]	Ziolang	wait wait wait hold on
[01:03:19]	Ziolang	Not know Rowan? as in nottheir butler?
[01:03:39]	Ziolang	But then... he and Kala would never even be An Thing
[01:03:42]	Ziolang	Which means...
[01:03:45]	Ziolang	Which means........
[01:03:47]	Keileon	I thought Aldon hired Rowan to keep an eye on Aryn to prevent something happening to her after Kyllan dies
[01:04:00]	Ziolang	Drei would be devoid of Ralara
[01:04:05]	Ziolang	Utterly devoid
[01:04:11]	Ziolang	of Ralara
[01:04:14]	Keileon	Okay so clearly Kyllan needs to die regardless
[01:04:17]	Keileon	rip kyllan
[01:04:20]	Ziolang	LOL
[01:04:21]	Keileon	Problem solved
[01:05:38]	Ziolang	Ralara wouldn't be an epic voidbender though so
[01:06:13]	Starr|Ipod	Voidbending reminds me of avatar
[01:06:20]	Keileon	of course it does
[01:06:28]	Starr|Ipod	Yeah
[01:06:39]	Ziolang	The irony here
[01:06:49]	Keileon	But yeah, Rinul not being destroyed... has interesting implications
[01:07:15]	Ziolang	is that the timeline where it would be extremely handy to have epic-tier characters is the timeline where those characters don't reach epic-tier
[01:07:25]	Keileon	Haha
[01:07:40]	Keileon	Well, who knows
[01:07:49]	Keileon	Maybe the /Vodera/ destroy Rinul
[01:08:07]	Ziolang	T13 wouldn't be a thing. No Shadow really. Zio's a pleb if even a thing.
[01:08:29]	Ziolang	Shiveztel has to rise to power already under subjugation
[01:08:47]	Ziolang	Giga's probably dead in a ditch
[01:08:51]	Keileon	Actualy
[01:08:54]	Keileon	*actually
[01:08:54]	Shadow	>No Shadow really
[01:08:57]	Shadow	He's a Thing
[01:09:14]	Ziolang	oh?
[01:09:20]	Keileon	Shiveztel rises to power to Prime!Jason's level, and a lot more quickly than Jason does
[01:10:07]	Keileon	Being in tune with his draconic heritage, having an Awakened Domain, /and/ having one of the most powerful dragons on Euthoora as his Familiar helps him a lot
[01:10:08]	Shadow	We went over this; Shadow's route in Drei assumes that instead of following the path to Alter/Prime he is taken by the Crysians along with Vortex
[01:10:11]	Keileon	*Euthora
[01:10:33]	Ziolang	Ok so we really only lose out on T13
[01:10:35]	Ziolang	but still
[01:10:54]	Keileon	Fang and Tasc could still do their things in reaction to the Vodera
[01:11:05]	Ziolang	I want my Anti-Vodera Elite Task Force T13
[01:11:20]	Shadow	However I have no idea where his story path is supposed to take him so I wouldn't exactly count on Outside Observer!Shadow
[01:11:41]	Starr|Ipod	Ivette wouldn't exist in this if the Szaufers don't visit obscurely named dimension #2
[01:12:12]	Ziolang	>Shadow trips on a rock and dies
[01:12:15]	Keileon	I need to know what happens to Shyr
[01:12:18]	Shadow	Yeah see
[01:12:22]	Starr|Ipod	So it would be T12 or they find someone else
[01:12:29]	Shadow	>T12
[01:12:31]	Ziolang	Rilan
[01:12:34]	Shadow	No T13 doesn't even exist
[01:12:37]	Ziolang	What Rilan even be
[01:12:52]	Keileon	He's the only aspect of Euthora's literal life force that I don't know anything about in this timeline
[01:12:57]	Ziolang	LOL NO T13
[01:12:58]	Starr|Ipod	No I'm just referring to what I just saw really/running my mouth
[01:13:00]	Ziolang	THAT MEANS
[01:13:12]	Keileon	>Jewel?
[01:13:16]	Ziolang	Juliana dies in a desert somewhere on her homeworld
[01:13:20]	Keileon	Yeah LOL
[01:13:40]	Shadow	What if we just make this the tragic timeline
[01:13:42]	Ziolang	Jewel ded in a ditch
[01:13:47]	Keileon	No that's Alter
[01:13:49]	Starr|Ipod	Valara moves from femnazi-ism to #ManaLivesMatter
[01:13:56]	Starr|Ipod	I mean Valria
[01:13:58]	Shadow	Alter isn't even bad
[01:13:59]	Keileon	LOL MANA LIVES MATTER
[01:14:05]	Ziolang	Alter is literally "Hirasu Tragedy" so
[01:14:07]	Starr|Ipod	Goddamnit night Kaleidoscope for the mixup
[01:14:27]	Keileon	Shadow; well let's see
[01:14:37]	Shadow	By tragic I mean "everyone important dies, nobody really has a ending and just dies"
[01:14:38]	Ziolang	Deveron collapses in on itself and Ziolang /snaps Zhegard in half/ in despair
[01:14:42]	Starr|Ipod	I rather like alter but that's probably because it's the only place I've been able to play anything
[01:14:45]	Keileon	Euthora and Phantasia and Deveron are all in bad shape in Alter
[01:15:06]	Keileon	Characters that should realize their proper story routes never do
[01:15:11]	Ziolang	Welcome to drei
[01:15:14]	Ziolang	No one is safe
[01:15:32]	Starr|Ipod	Jokes on you most of the true Starrguys story routes are on Alter
[01:15:34]	Ziolang	"Hi, my name is Ziol- *hit by a bus the end*"
[01:15:35]	Keileon	Alter is the timeline tht spawned the Law of Suffering iirc
[01:15:46]	Starr|Ipod	What is this, a soap opera? @crayon
[01:15:59]	Ziolang	yes
[01:16:04]	Ziolang	with space nazis
[01:16:04]	Starr|Ipod	In that case
[01:16:06]	Starr|Ipod	*car
[01:16:07]	Shadow	What I mean is that comparatively speaking, Alter is nowhere as bad as it could be
[01:16:29]	Starr|Ipod	Imagine Starr using Quadriphenia to peer into Drei
[01:16:34]	Ziolang	Yeah, it could have a egotistical nazi race obliterating the manaverse
[01:16:36]	Keileon	We have space nazis, several space pirates, a few space police...
[01:16:44]	Starr|Ipod	*peers in* "DEMONS" *peers out*
[01:16:47]	Keileon	space russians
[01:16:51]	Starr|Ipod	"All I saw were red people"
[01:16:59]	Ziolang	pls
[01:17:05]	Ziolang	They're not /all/ red
[01:17:06]	Ziolang	pls
[01:17:13]	Ziolang	racist
[01:17:14]	Starr|Ipod	How many times do I gotta say that Grens aren't Russians
[01:17:19]	Keileon	>Syal?
[01:17:21]	Keileon	*Syel
[01:17:24]	Starr|Ipod	Finnish
[01:17:29]	Keileon	Close enough
[01:17:37]	Keileon	Same general area of the world
[01:17:40]	Starr|Ipod	Grenians are more Hungarian
[01:17:43]	Keileon	We also have space asians
[01:17:47]	Starr|Ipod	Okay yeah
[01:17:57]	Starr|Ipod	Space Asia God bless
[01:18:05]	Keileon	And space argonians
[01:18:06]	Starr|Ipod	They get fucked over in every timeline
[01:18:12]	Ziolang	space dergs
[01:18:19]	Keileon	Vindrgard has space dergs
[01:18:20]	Ziolang	space furries
[01:18:24]	Starr|Ipod	Which is why Talon exists everywhere
[01:18:28]	Keileon	Since Vindrite dragons are golems
[01:18:29]	Ziolang	space Texas
[01:18:36]	Keileon	They can survive in space
[01:18:40]	Starr|Ipod	Space Mexico
[01:18:49]	Ziolang	Space Australia
[01:18:56]	Ziolang	Spaceys
[01:18:57]	Starr|Ipod	I mean Space Iberian Peninsula/Mexico
[01:18:58]	Keileon	Space Edgy Anime
[01:18:59]	Starr|Ipod	LOL
[01:19:02]	Keileon	(rokans)
[01:19:09]	Starr|Ipod	ah TFS
[01:19:19]	Starr|Ipod	And Space Israel
[01:19:21]	Starr|Ipod	I guess
[01:19:25]	Starr|Ipod	Idk what Causica is
[01:19:31]	Keileon	We just very quickly got very off track
[01:19:36]	Starr|Ipod	Sorry
[01:19:40]	Ziolang	lol
[01:19:42]	Starr|Ipod	Carry on
[01:19:47]	Ziolang	We're pros
[01:19:50]	Keileon	I
[01:19:56]	Keileon	Legitimately don't know
[01:20:06]	Keileon	If Shiveztel would side with or against the Vodera
[01:20:22]	Keileon	And this is more important than it sounds
[01:20:43]	Ziolang	Jason leads a space nazi army
[01:21:06]	Keileon	Because if he sides with the Vodera, so will Careodry, and that's 2/3 of the dragons that /literally determine Euthora's story/ siding with space nazis'
[01:21:14]	Keileon	And as I have NO idea what Shyr does...
[01:21:25]	Ziolang	ooooh
[01:21:30]	Ziolang	idea
[01:21:33]	Keileon	??
[01:21:43]	Ziolang	What if he and Careodry side with the nazis
[01:21:49]	Ziolang	and /kill/ Shyr
[01:21:53]	Keileon	I considered that
[01:22:01]	Starr|Ipod	LMAO shyr rip
[01:22:08]	Starr|Ipod	Doesn't he also die in Alter
[01:22:12]	Keileon	Most likely
[01:22:15]	Ziolang	Everyone dies in alter
[01:22:19]	Starr|Ipod	Bad luck derg
[01:22:25]	Ziolang	It's only a matter of time
[01:22:31]	Starr|Ipod	Yeh
[01:22:48]	Keileon	Shiveztel sides with the Vodera, kills Shyr under their command, proxy ruler
[01:22:50]	Ziolang	Angry Demon Arc rapidly approaches this truth
[01:22:59]	Starr|Ipod	Like soon we'll see Zio discovering the joys of getting ganked to death by the cult
[01:23:11]	Ziolang	Then Hirasu comes and kills Shiveztel
[01:23:16]	Keileon	Kind of like how Rchaziir "rules" Euthorica, I think
[01:23:18]	Keileon	No no
[01:23:30]	Keileon	The Vodera would rule Euthora /through/ Shiveztel
[01:23:35]	Starr|Ipod	Lmao Rchaziir
[01:23:47]	Starr|Ipod	She's a bit too stubborn for her own good
[01:23:58]	Ziolang	I imagine the more unruly worlds they'd have arrangements like that
[01:24:10]	Keileon	>Euthora is unruly by SCT
[01:24:27]	Ziolang	But ultimately once Hirasu is satisfied with his conquest, he'd probably go back to those worlds and straight kill those plebs
[01:24:38]	Keileon	>The humans don't want to be ruled by the Vodera so they accept Skyking rule as the lesser evil
[01:24:48]	Starr|Ipod	Also Rchaziir only rules Azuma island and its sister island, not everything there btw
[01:24:51]	Ziolang	Granted we'll probably never see "satisfied with his conquest" ever happen
[01:24:57]	Starr|Ipod	She'd get nuked if she got closer to the other islands
[01:25:11]	Keileon	So basically Shiveztel just became a Skyking in the span of like five minutes
[01:25:30]	Starr|Ipod	So this is basically, in drei:
[01:25:33]	Keileon	And actually
[01:25:40]	Starr|Ipod	Either voting for Trump or Hilary
[01:25:41]	Ziolang	I should reeeeaaally find out Hirasu's motivation
[01:25:45]	Keileon	It's /very/ unlikely that Hirasu could kill Shiveztel
[01:25:52]	Ziolang	Also, imagine Drei Hirasu in F/LT
[01:25:58]	Starr|Ipod	Hirasu is demon
[01:26:02]	Starr|Ipod	That's enough motivation
[01:26:05]	Keileon	Because between Shiveztel's and Careodry's- oh god- Soul Phantasms, they'd evade death
[01:26:16]	Starr|Ipod	And wow iPod actually autocorrected me to spell Hirasu right LOL
[01:26:38]	Ziolang	Hirasu would just
[01:26:42]	Ziolang	Detonate the planet
[01:26:45]	Ziolang	So...
[01:26:49]	Starr|Ipod	LOL
[01:26:52]	Ziolang	Can Shiveztal breath in space?
[01:26:59]	Starr|Ipod	breath in space
[01:27:01]	Keileon	Maybe, but Careodry could just bring Shiveztel to another planet
[01:27:04]	Ziolang	Careodry might be ok tho
[01:27:39]	Ziolang	I'm now imagining an angry Hirasu detonating planets chasing these two across the manaverse
[01:27:43]	Keileon	LMAO
[01:27:50]	Shadow	p. sure Crysians can kill them all
[01:27:51]	Keileon	Best mental image
[01:27:54]	Shadow	:xxxxxx
[01:27:58]	Keileon	>Crysian meme
[01:28:14]	Starr|Ipod	Battle of the memes
[01:28:36]	Keileon	tbf
[01:28:41]	Ziolang	Any planet that gets Vorpalized is instanly incapable of fighting back so
[01:28:45]	Keileon	Hirasu would have to /find/ them first
[01:28:48]	Ziolang	Let's keep that in mind
[01:29:14]	Keileon	It's likely they'll just go into self-imposed exile on some far-flung planet
[01:29:43]	Starr|Ipod	I wonder if (in case they would exist there) Talon would either fight a demon invasion or /help them/ if it's the world's definite path
[01:30:04]	Ziolang	Considering this is based on the hypothetical scenario of "satisfied with his conquest", the implication would be that he owns the manaverse so
[01:30:21]	Keileon	Literally impossible
[01:30:26]	Keileon	so
[01:30:35]	Ziolang	exactly
[01:30:39]	Starr|Ipod	So Hirasu is Frieza, crayon?
[01:30:47]	Ziolang	Hence why the entire scenario will never be played out
[01:30:56]	Keileon	If nothing else they can hide out in Careodry's void for eternity
[01:31:01]	Starr|Ipod	Does he send out gift baskets to the families of fallen demons
[01:31:08]	Ziolang	Yes, except less of a daddy's boy
[01:31:14]	Starr|Ipod	LOL
[01:31:58]	Ziolang	So if Hirasu successfully owned the manaverse, wouldn't it officially become the vorpalverse?
[01:32:07]	Starr|Ipod	Yes
[01:32:17]	Keileon	No, because Mana would still be present outside the planets
[01:32:24]	Starr|Ipod	It would go full circle into your OWN universe
[01:32:27]	Keileon	And would continuously normalize the Vorpal
[01:32:30]	Ziolang	Could... could an outside observer do anything about a being who literally encompasses a universe's worth of aether?
[01:32:38]	Starr|Ipod	Maybe
[01:32:53]	Starr|Ipod	Override
[01:33:03]	Shadow	>maybe
[01:33:05]	Keileon	tl;dr you can't Vorpalize the entire Manaverse and it would require more maintenance the larger the empire is
[01:33:06]	Shadow	doesn't work that way
[01:33:09]	Starr|Ipod	No?
[01:33:11]	Keileon	Think the Roman empire
[01:33:35]	Shadow	Of course not. Outside Observers aren't omnipotent
[01:34:11]	Shadow	At that point it's pretty much gg
[01:34:11]	Starr|Ipod	Ah I see
[01:34:41]	Shadow	But it's an unlikely scenario because the Mana in the whole universe... well, is a lot
[01:34:47]	Keileon	^
[01:34:49]	Ziolang	You could definitely vorpalize the entire manaverse given adequate time and prep
[01:35:09]	Keileon	Wellllll that depends on a few things, but
[01:35:10]	Starr|Ipod	If I got close to that then probably you might start to see the Leeg of Faggots jumping in to save it
[01:35:15]	Ziolang	That would just be like... a very very very very very long and complicated process
[01:35:24]	Starr|Ipod	*it
[01:35:36]	Shadow	That would assume that the Leeg would have tried (and failed) to do save it, too
[01:35:42]	Starr|Ipod	Yeah
[01:35:48]	Shadow	A Vorpalized Manaverse is basically the endgame here
[01:35:54]	Ziolang	This is an insanely hypothetical situation
[01:36:03]	Starr|Ipod	You can't vibration out of that I think
[01:36:12]	Ziolang	That I probably shouldn't even bother exploring
[01:36:31]	Ziolang	>Vorpalize the manaverse
[01:36:34]	Starr|Ipod	You will regardless
[01:36:39]	Keileon	It would most likely never happen, unless the Manaverse does not follow the theory that the universe is still infinitely expanding from a Big Bang-type event
[01:36:40]	Ziolang	>Accidently some Kivorde
[01:36:42]	Starr|Ipod	I know ou well
[01:36:42]	Starr|Ipod	You
[01:37:09]	Shadow	Well at that point a number of things could happen, and most of them aren't exactly pretty
[01:37:40]	Keileon	I also feel like at /some/ point the Hierarchs might step in
[01:38:50]	Shadow	There might not be any need. The Counter Force might as well reboot the Manaverse on its own. Or maybe it'll allow the Pattern Screamers at the edge of the Manaverse to close in. Or maybe there's an aetheric singularity as Mana begins cycling back with no room to exist
[01:39:02]	Shadow	None of them are pretty
[01:39:04]	Starr|Ipod	The what now
[01:39:05]	Keileon	The-- what?
[01:39:11]	Keileon	Pattern Screamers?
[01:39:25]	Starr|Ipod	Shadow loves throwing new terms
[01:39:31]	Starr|Ipod	It's like his fetish
[01:39:42]	Ziolang	I SEE IT
[01:39:45]	Ziolang	THE PATTERN
[01:39:48]	Keileon	LOL
[01:39:51]	Starr|Ipod	LOL
[01:40:34]	Shadow	tl;dr eldritch abominations that exist at the edge of the universe in a perpetual state of un-reality
[01:40:45]	Starr|Ipod	Oh that sounds more familiar
[01:40:49]	Ziolang	Rebooting Manaverse.exe
[01:41:02]	Starr|Ipod	*windows 10 update instead*
[01:41:17]	Ziolang	*windows edge
[01:41:25]	Starr|Ipod	I wonder what would aberrations do in this drei
[01:41:35]	Starr|Ipod	Just curiosity
[01:41:53]	Ziolang	I should sleep
[01:42:07]	Ziolang	I have to get up early tomorrow iirc
[01:42:18]	Keileon	Aw
[01:42:23]	Keileon	but this is fun
[01:42:25]	Starr|Ipod	Sahel would be like "I WANNA KILL HOOMAN-- oh what are these red people?"
[01:42:26]	Ziolang	This has been fun tho
[01:42:39]	Starr|Ipod	"..I...Idk what to do anymore."
[01:42:46]	Ziolang	I really need to do this more often
[01:42:52]	Starr|Ipod	*come on
[01:42:54]	Starr|Ipod	Fixed
[01:42:55]	Keileon	yes
[01:43:22]	Ziolang	I've started wiki pages for Boravel and dream!world. I'll try to get them out asap
[01:43:30]	Starr|Ipod	NAISU
[01:43:31]	Keileon	stay up
[01:43:32]	Starr|Ipod	-caps
[01:43:41]	Ziolang	butbutbut
[01:43:44]	Ziolang	but
[01:44:03]	Keileon	How early do you need to be up
[01:44:07]	Ziolang	I have... uh... cancer! Yeah, I have cancer so
[01:44:16]	Keileon	pls
[01:44:28]	Ziolang	idek if I do have to be up early tbh
[01:44:35]	Starr|Ipod	Lel
[01:44:35]	Keileon	Well, check?
[01:44:42]	Ziolang	I can't remember these things
[01:44:51]	Ziolang	can't, everyone else is asleep
[01:44:54]	Ziolang	so...
[01:44:58]	Starr|Ipod	Rip
[01:45:00]	Keileon	Tomorrow's Saturday the 9th does that help
[01:45:00]	Ziolang	Meh, w/e
[01:45:05]	Shadow	you have to take risks in life
[01:45:08]	Ziolang	I'll stay up a little longer
[01:45:08]	Shadow	living on the edge
[01:45:10]	Keileon	k
[01:45:12]	Starr|Ipod	LOL
[01:45:19]	Ziolang	So wait
[01:45:21]	Keileon	But yes
[01:45:23]	Starr|Ipod	That reminded me of that TTK with like 7 buckets
[01:45:26]	Shadow	Like running an event in 100 buckets
[01:45:30]	Starr|Ipod	Living on the edge
[01:45:31]	Shadow	yes
[01:45:32]	Keileon	Drei.
[01:45:32]	Starr|Ipod	Yeah
[01:45:33]	Ziolang	hold on shadow
[01:45:34]	Ziolang	hold on
[01:45:54]	Starr|Ipod	Why is Drei suddenly the hot topic of summer
[01:45:54]	Ziolang	 /we're/ the Pattern Screamers... technically?
[01:46:00]	Keileon	LOL
[01:46:01]	Starr|Ipod	...
[01:46:03]	Shadow	Yes
[01:46:06]	Starr|Ipod	No don't do this
[01:46:07]	Ziolang	Called it
[01:46:18]	Starr|Ipod	My brain
[01:46:18]	Shadow	We cast patterns into the Manaverse, and the patterns define them
[01:46:29]	Ziolang	Makes sense
[01:46:49]	Ziolang	Which explains why within the manaverse they'd be "eldritch abominations"
[01:46:53]	Ziolang	weeeeeiiiiird
[01:46:54]	Starr|Ipod	I scream a lot so I fill in the part
[01:47:15]	Keileon	So like.
[01:47:17]	Ziolang	We're our own character's impossible dreams
[01:47:31]	Starr|Ipod	To my characters: sorry
[01:47:39]	Starr|Ipod	I'm a bad Screaming pattern
[01:47:49]	Keileon	Assuming the whole thing with Shiveztel happens and he becomes a Skyking under Voderan authority
[01:48:01]	Keileon	The dragon/Vodera dynamic would be... interesting
[01:48:06]	Keileon	Also, technically
[01:48:15]	Keileon	Since Shiveztel is a Darkwing Firedrake
[01:48:27]	Keileon	The Vodera are /kind of/ appointing one of their own to rule
[01:48:37]	Ziolang	[Shadow thought I wouldn't catch that one. Wrooooong]
[01:48:48]	Ziolang	Yeah I really need to find out Hirasu's motivation
[01:48:56]	Ziolang	If I'm gonna understand his methods
[01:49:20]	Shadow	Actually I wasn't really making a reference but I think you nailed an unintentional one
[01:49:43]	Starr|Ipod	What if he just DL's Manaverse GO and is just acquiring planets just to become the very best
[01:49:54]	Starr|Ipod	DL'd
[01:49:56]	Keileon	Then the Manaverse would crash
[01:50:21]	Shadow	I feel he's just playing WorldColle
[01:50:22]	Ziolang	But he knows Vorpal++
[01:50:25]	Starr|Ipod	LOL
[01:50:39]	Starr|Ipod	makes sense because he'd be sinking everyone for the hell of it :^)
[01:50:45]	Ziolang	hey now
[01:50:51]	Shadow	top kek
[01:50:52]	Ziolang	not all demons are jerks
[01:50:57]	Ziolang	just most of them
[01:51:08]	Starr|Ipod	Hirasu: "Okay I'm at the Phantasia map. I need good RNG"
[01:51:13]	Starr|Ipod	*destroys Mantua*
[01:51:23]	Starr|Ipod	"South route let's go"
[01:51:47]	Ziolang	*Rare Shadow Drop*
[01:51:50]	Keileon	And this is where I lose track of the conversation
[01:51:51]	Ziolang	*Sinks it*
[01:52:02]	Shadow	>farming maps is just killing inhabitants until someone important shows up
[01:52:27]	Starr|Ipod	Yes
[01:52:51]	Starr|Ipod	Hirasu goes to /d/ to complain about the drops
[01:53:55]	Starr|Ipod	"I've been stuck in Phantasia for almost two weeks. I asked for my vacation time and have been farming since then but nothing. This game is bs. There's no strategy, no skill. Just wild RNG. I've sunk many planets to get this rare drop but nothing. I'm done here."
[01:54:02]	Shadow	LMAO
[01:54:33]	Shadow	Hirasu looks like he's spending his time very well
[01:55:05]	Ziolang	He's technically the top player atm
[01:55:09]	Starr|Ipod	Bet you he buys buckets smh
[01:55:32]	Ziolang	>he bought the extra docks and shipyards
[01:55:41]	Starr|Ipod	Imagine the demon fail compilation
[01:55:49]	Ziolang	what are we even
[01:55:55]	Starr|Ipod	No shhh
[01:55:57]	Starr|Ipod	Let it happen
[01:56:01]	Starr|Ipod	It's keeping you here
[01:56:18]	Keileon	Zio I stopped being able to follow this conversation five minutes ago
[01:56:28]	Ziolang	>Hirasu collects all the planets
[01:56:35]	Ziolang	>max trains/levels them all
[01:56:38]	Shadow	Well saying he's the top player would be pretty accurate though. At any rate, I wouldn't think the scope of the invasion is that large by the time of SCT, especially depending on who the opposition even is
[01:56:44]	Ziolang	>Turns abyssal and sinks them all
[01:56:54]	Shadow	>bad end
[01:57:26]	Keileon	Shadow; he's fighting Vindrgard, Crysia, and maybe Rinul. That's not an easy combination of opponents regardless
[01:57:36]	Ziolang	I think
[01:57:45]	Ziolang	It would be best for our purposes
[01:58:01]	Ziolang	To have SCT encompass the invasions of tough targets like them
[01:58:04]	Starr|Ipod	 Leeg of faggots would be the plan be I think
[01:58:11]	Keileon	Probably yeah
[01:58:16]	Keileon	Or attempted invasions
[01:58:42]	Ziolang	They'd still be off conquering pleb planets; but for RP purposes saving those worlds for SCt is best
[01:58:42]	Keileon	Vindrgard's been perfecting the human race for millennia
[01:58:57]	Ziolang	*SCT
[01:59:05]	Shadow	Most likely with such large players in the game, the "war" is kind of at a really intense stalemate, with no side gaining definite traction
[01:59:28]	Ziolang	Planets would be rallying behind each side
[01:59:37]	Shadow	We can use this as the opening scenario for SCT and let circumstances decide which way the war tilts
[01:59:57]	Ziolang	>mfw this means there's two timelines for Drei
[02:00:01]	Keileon	So like each side trying to take the other's lumber camps and farms and such rather than going straight for the castles and wonders
[02:00:03]	Shadow	wat
[02:00:24]	Ziolang	One for each side winning
[02:00:33]	Starr|Ipod	That's not KanColle so I can't understand
[02:00:37]	Keileon	Not quite how timelines work
[02:00:43]	Keileon	now you know how I feel starr
[02:00:50]	Ziolang	OH
[02:00:51]	Ziolang	Duh
[02:00:55]	Ziolang	I'm stupid
[02:00:58]	Starr|Ipod	I was playing around hut okay
[02:00:59]	Keileon	Took you long enough LOL
[02:01:00]	Starr|Ipod	But
[02:01:27]	Ziolang	Nono something totally different from timelines
[02:01:39]	Keileon	(starr; Age of Empires)
[02:01:45]	Starr|Ipod	Ah
[02:01:54]	Starr|Ipod	That game I don't pick up
[02:02:08]	Ziolang	Why Hirasu would allow planets to simply ally with him rather than his straight invading them
[02:02:33]	Keileon	Not wasting resources
[02:02:37]	Ziolang	The obvious answer being the fact that he's not making headway against the resistance
[02:02:42]	Keileon	yeah
[02:03:05]	Ziolang	dur dur dur
[02:03:07]	Keileon	I want to note
[02:03:21]	Keileon	Shiveztel being a proxy leader needs to happen post-SCT
[02:03:23]	Starr|Ipod	To build trust and tear them down
[02:03:33]	Keileon	Because he's still like 15-19 at SCT.
[02:03:35]	Shadow	His biggest roadblock is probably Crysians tbh, so I'll need to confirm with crazE how they'd even approach this
[02:03:36]	Starr|Ipod	Hreniou literally does that
[02:03:37]	Ziolang	k
[02:03:39]	Starr|Ipod	*greniou
[02:04:14]	Ziolang	When does he get back, btw?
[02:04:21]	Ziolang	Gotts be soon
[02:04:27]	Keileon	idk I think Vindrgard would be as big an issue as Crysia