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  1. * Theocles (107.213.224.153) Quit
  2. <Versailles> .
  3. <Versailles> ..
  4. <Versailles> that was...
  5. <Versailles> wow
  6. <Bedtime> oh my.
  7. <Django> Not handled well.
  8. <Tenerife> Ruffles her coat, slanting her ears back in annoyance.-
  9. <Mina> ok
  10. <Mina> ..
  11. <Django> That's what that fucking was.
  12. <Pirouette> huffs.- I apologize for his rudeness
  13. <Versailles> I LOVE YOU ALL, OKAY
  14. <Versailles> can we like
  15. <Versailles> change the subject
  16. <Versailles> pls
  17. <Hina> Mina, you should've stepped up.
  18. <Bedtime> Slides casually over to Tene and flops down beside.-
  19. <Django> Curls her tongue into the roof of her mouth, bristled-
  20. <Django> Hina.
  21. <Django> It's a tricky situation.
  22. <Hina> It's not.
  23. <Kilian> He overreacted slightly.
  24. <Hina> It could've been talked out.
  25. <Kilian> Made a scene.
  26. <Django> It actually is. And people handle things differently.
  27. <Django> Not with THeo.
  28. <Django> Theo*
  29. <Kilian> Blew it out of proportion.
  30. <Django> No offense.
  31. <Versailles> can everyone pls stoppppppppp
  32. <Mina> can smeone save logs
  33. <Pirouette> I'm gonna go calm him down
  34. <Mina> and send them to me
  35. <Mina> ...
  36. <Versailles> i will
  37. <Mina> thank u
  38. <Gar_UD> picks up hina and pats.
  39. <Gar_UD> It could've been handled differently.
  40. <Mina> And I'm gonna talk for a minute.
  41. <Mina> Whether he agrees or not, I say it was advertising because, blatantly. That's what it was. He told everyone in the chat that was present that he was making a pack, that's mentioning it and giving you an idea that there's gonna be a new pack open.
  42. <Mina> How I felt about it was like him spitting in my face, whether you all agree or not. it made me feel like. "Oh well you know if you wanna be led under my leadership, I'm making a pack."
  43. <Versailles> not gonna lie, i did that a few weeks ago on accident. alena got mad at me but
  44. <Kilian> I really only joined because they do raids
  45. <Kilian> coughs
  46. <Mina> Im not done
  47. <Mina> ...
  48. <Versailles> .. shuts up.-
  49. <Mina> Second of all yeah, I shouldn't have shaded him about the topic it was petty, but how else was I going to get it across that I don't want people advertising their roleplays in my chat?
  50. <Pirouette> Go to him in private
  51. <Hina> ^
  52. <Mina> I knew if I brought it up to him under any circumstance he was going to make a scene about it.
  53. <Gar_UD> He would've made a scene like just ow regardless.
  54. <Gar_UD> *now.
  55. <Rochus> any pack name in the chat makes people curious whether the intention is advertising or not...
  56. <Versailles> ^
  57. <Hina> I don't know.
  58. <Gar_UD> Which is why it shouldn't have been brought up.
  59. <Pirouette> But it would've been in private...It would've been less people and less drama to deal with
  60. <Mina> I knew that if he was mentioned he was going to be "offended" and use that as an excuse to quit ER.
  61. <Rochus> I'm sorry he didn't consider your feelings, Mina
  62. <Mina> if i mentioned i i mean
  63. <Django> Rolls her shoulders, exhausted- I don't know if Mina is done speaking so let's wait just a little bit guys.
  64. <Hina> Just like how you guys take it as advertising, if he just dropped that he was making a pack, it's not really advertising. It can be an honest answer like. What're you doing. etc. And I still think you should've brought it up in PMs. You're a leader. You don't get to shade another pack member.
  65. <Versailles> like I remember I mentioned somethin about my idea of creating an rp but I needed help with it and Alena told me not to advertise it in SC, but I didn't think of it as actually advertising. but after I thought about it i kinda was
  66. <Mina> I knew the moment he found out I was upset about it, he was gonna get pissed and quit.
  67. <Tenerife> Wasn't Alena in the chat when he was saying all of this…?
  68. <Locus> yeah and she wasn't happy about it.
  69. <Tenerife> She didn't say anything.
  70. <Locus> why say anything to theo when he blows up like that.
  71. <Mina> Because she knows how he is?
  72. <Versailles> I don't think I was here whenever all that happened
  73. <Mina> She told me personally that she did not like what he did.
  74. <Tenerife> … it would have been ten times better to confront him head-on than shading him in the topic.
  75. <Mina> And she wasn't happy about it.
  76. <Django> Theocles isn't necessarily easy to confront.
  77. <Mina> You know Theo, Tenerife. You know damn wellhe would've flipped shit.
  78. <Bedtime> I admire your thought process, Hina.
  79. <Locus> he isn't at all.
  80. <Mina> "HOW DARE YOU CONFRONT ME AND SAY IM ADVERTISING."
  81. <Django> If we confronted him, it would've made a bigger deal than the advertising itself already was.
  82. <Tenerife> You mean like he did right now? At least he would have done it in private instead of out in the open.
  83. <Tenerife> He made Denver leave.
  84. <Hina> Why say anything? Because he's still a person.
  85. <Hina> You can't guess every single reaction.
  86. <Hina> You can have an idea, but it's not the same thing.
  87. <Gar_UD> He could've also talked to Mina about it in SC, just as Mina could've talked about it to him in SC.
  88. <Mina> I can with him. I've known him for four years.
  89. <Mina> I know how he is.
  90. <Rochus> people have patterns
  91. <Gar_UD> And then if he left, address it as a whole to the pack.
  92. <Tenerife> This is how you lose members or joiners. In my opinion, Alena should heva confronted him and said "do not do that".
  93. <Mina> He came to me in SC guys, he did.
  94. <Mina> And then he announced he was quitting.
  95. <Django> It's common sense not to do that though...
  96. <Django> In my opinion.
  97. <Django> He's been in the game long enough to know that.
  98. <Versailles> brb shower...
  99. <Django> Have fun getting squeaky clean.
  100. <Mina> I'm telling you right now if someone was in AT and was like, hey guys. I'm making a pack.
  101. <Versailles> I will ;))))
  102. <Mina> He's gonna get pissed.
  103. <Versailles> OKAY BRB
  104. <Rochus> I have to agree, Djang. He's no idiot
  105. <Locus> It really is common sense.
  106. <Tenerife> Flicks ears.- I don't like how this was handled by Alena or Mina. To me, it sounded as if you two were scared of confronting him. Because if this was vice versa, he would have confronted you right away.
  107. <Locus> He wouldn't want someone doing that in his pack.
  108. <Django> Yeah.. and like. I understand miscommunication from both parties was a horrid thing.
  109. <Mina> I was scared?
  110. <Mina> I'll tell you straight up.
  111. <Gar_UD> Which is understandable.
  112. <Tenerife> I don't agree with what he did, but the situationw as handled poorly.
  113. <Tenerife> *was
  114. <Rochus> that reaction was...scary. I can understand why he's hard to confront....
  115. <Mina> I was scared because of the way he acts. He already quit once before because I wasn't handling the pack the way he wanted.
  116. <Gar_UD> But it was, like Tene was saying, handled poorly.
  117. <Mina> And me and Alena had to convince him to come back.
  118. <Mina> Is that fair?
  119. <Bedtime> well from experience
  120. <Mina> Why do I have to bend hand and foot for him.
  121. <Tenerife> Why do you need to convince someone to come back?
  122. <Bedtime> if you're so desperate to have someone back you'd risk your rep over it
  123. <Mina> Exactly.
  124. <Bedtime> there's something wrong.
  125. <Tenerife> If someone wants to leave, they were never loyal to the pack in the first place.
  126. <Mina> You're right, dumb mistake on my part.
  127. <Locus> Lays down, tired-
  128. <Mina> I shouldn't have ever convinced him to come back.
  129. <Django> Theo has a way with people. He's a charmer but he can be venomous.
  130. <Locus> ^
  131. <Django> People like him around because he's funny and he has a way of entertaining.
  132. <Django> But he can bite back. Hard.
  133. <Django> That was her father figure.
  134. <Django> Nothing wrong with wanting someone back. People want others back even if they hurt them.
  135. <Rochus> ^^^^
  136. <Django> It's tough, but it happens.
  137. <Hina> Clearly I don't have enough ethical appeal to speak further on this subject.
  138. <Tenerife> Hm. I just didn't like how it was handled. I was in the chat, and I was going to say something to Theo– despite the fact that I was making AT /with/ him– but Alena was there, and didn't say anything.
  139. <Tenerife> So I assumed she didn't care.
  140. * #daddy's play room sets mode +@ Mina
  141. * Hina is now known as Hina_AFK
  142. * Mina has changed the topic to 'bruh'
  143. <Tenerife> And then I come and see him being shaded on the topic. I really don't like that. She should have stepped up, that's all.
  144. <Hina_AFK> Might as well keep it up, doesn't matter anymore.
  145. <Bedtime> ^^^
  146. <Tenerife> That's my opinion. Sorry, I'll drop it.
  147. <Django> Miscommunication was just... prominent. It was a problem. Miscommunication and fucked up grape-vines make things messy.
  148. <Mina> she did care, alena isn't like me. She doesn't stand up to zach if at all.
  149. <Kilian> Lmao-- so who showed Theo the logs I wanted to join because they raid? Real dick move to turn him against his new members, real nice.
  150. <Hina_AFK> No, by all means, keep it up, Memerwife.
  151. <Mina> No one did.
  152. <Django> Glances at Kilian, arching a brow-
  153. <Hina_AFK> Someone has to open their mind and realize Theo is not completely at fault.
  154. <Kilian> Someone did.
  155. <Kilian> I'm not an idiot, it was someone here.
  156. <Mina> AND EVEN THEN? his new members are a lot of this pack?
  157. <Mina> So????????????
  158. <Django> Isn't Pirouette speaking to him?
  159. <Kilian> Pir wouldn't do that.
  160. <Mina> First of all, like 3 people came to me and bitched that he advertised in the main.
  161. <Mina> That's how I knew.
  162. <Django> And Kilian, why would you say that if it wasn't something you wanted him to see? I'm just saying.
  163. <Django> I didn't share it because I'm not a dick but.
  164. <Django> Still.
  165. <Mina> Or me
  166. <Django> ^
  167. <Mina> That's kind've shady in my opinion
  168. <Mina> ...
  169. <Cordelia> Same @ Tenerife. I mean I mentioned it to him in SC that it might be considered advertising but I ended up assuming it was alright since Alena was here and didn't press it.
  170. <Mina> Alena isn't me, guys. Okay?
  171. <Cordelia> Sorry for being silent also I'm watching a video and conflict makes me nervous.
  172. <Rochus> its okay cord
  173. <Mina> I would have said something, had I was here. But I wasn't.
  174. <Kilian> I don't CARE if he saw.
  175. <Kilian> It was how it was given to him, of course, as backlash for leaving.
  176. <Kilian> Showing him his members aren't loyal or whatever.
  177. <Tenerife> Sighs.- Whoever is sharing logs, keep the convos separate. We don't want tension between ER and AT.
  178. <Mina> There's already tension, not like it matters.
  179. * Hina_AFK is now known as Hinata
  180. <Tenerife> Weba, Hina.
  181. <Hinata> There's no need for more, lol.
  182. <Hinata> Thanks, I've returned with warm milk.
  183. * Jaw (98.212.47.240) has joined #daddy's play room
  184. <Jaw> Aye
  185. <Hinata> Greetings.
  186. <Mina> First of all. HAD i was here I would've said something. Alena is scared to confront Theo and you should all know that.
  187. <Hinata> Did you bring paw and tail with you?
  188. <Hinata> ... Get it.
  189. <Mina> Second off, had I mentioned it to him either in SC or on a status. HE still would have quit.
  190. <Mina> And the fact tha he even quit because I was upset that he advertised it, is honestly not my issue. I wouldn't have quit a pack over it so.
  191. <Jaw> Oh, Theo quit?
  192. <Locus> mhm.
  193. <Tenerife> Twitches an ear.- Theo didn't quit because you told him not to advertise. He quit because you shaded him in the topic.
  194. * Pirouette is now known as Piro_FOOD
  195. <Django> Rubs an eye, tired-
  196. <Mina> either way, he wanted a reason to quit.
  197. <Mina> And I guess I handed it to him.
  198. <Django> ^
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