(02:03:03 PM) Matt Jordan: ping
(02:03:08 PM) Matt Fredrickson: pong
(02:03:26 PM) Matt Fredrickson: Are you here to hustle me for an integration test plan?
(02:03:27 PM) Matt Fredrickson: :-)
(02:03:31 PM) Matt Jordan: nope
(02:03:32 PM) Matt Jordan: http://wiki.digium.internal/wiki/pages/diffpagesbyversion.action?pageId=18090668&selectedPageVersions=78&selectedPageVersions=71
(02:03:34 PM) Matt Fredrickson: dang it
(02:03:36 PM) Matt Fredrickson: ok
(02:03:47 PM) Matt Fredrickson: yeah
(02:03:49 PM) Matt Jordan: is this finalized?
(02:04:02 PM) Matt Jordan: We're trying to work out outbound dialling, and we just discovered we are now doing it wrong :-)
(02:04:34 PM) Matt Fredrickson: this is more final… the structure is more correct than it was
(02:04:42 PM) Matt Jordan: kk
(02:04:43 PM) Matt Fredrickson: there were some problems with the previous version
(02:04:46 PM) Matt Fredrickson: sorry about the churn
(02:04:51 PM) Matt Fredrickson: we're implementing it on our side as well
(02:04:55 PM) Matt Jordan: Just make sure you let Josh and Kevin know when the spec changes
(02:04:56 PM) Matt Jordan: :-)
(02:05:00 PM) Matt Fredrickson: yeah
(02:05:02 PM) Matt Fredrickson: ok
(02:05:03 PM) Matt Jordan: Otherwise the integration is going to push back a lot
(02:05:10 PM) Matt Fredrickson: understandable
(02:06:12 PM) Matt Jordan: May want to involve them as well in any of the design discussions you and Ken might be having about this as well, since we're now entering the world of "changes will break things"
(02:06:18 PM) Matt Fredrickson: ok
(02:06:22 PM) Matt Fredrickson: sounds good
(02:06:24 PM) Matt Fredrickson: yeah
(02:06:53 PM) Matt Fredrickson: sorry, there's going to be a bit of inevitable churn with some of this as we are trying to make the signaling more robust
(02:07:03 PM) Matt Fredrickson: and this is a new protocol
(02:07:07 PM) Matt Jordan: churn is fine up to a point, but we have to get told when things change
(02:07:23 PM) Matt Jordan: Kevin and Josh didn't notice. I'm speccing out next sprint's tasks and we just realized Kevin has written outbound dialling wrong
(02:07:28 PM) Matt Fredrickson: ok
(02:07:29 PM) Matt Jordan: Which means we lost a few days of work
(02:07:55 PM) Matt Fredrickson: yeah… I'll try to make sure he's in the loop with changes like that then
(02:07:59 PM) Matt Jordan: thanks
(02:08:05 PM) Matt Fredrickson: wasn't sure if he was close enough yet to care or not
(02:08:18 PM) Matt Jordan: well, if we're supposed to start integration in a few weeks, then yup, we care now :-D
(02:08:40 PM) Matt Fredrickson: ok
(02:09:14 PM) Matt Fredrickson: just as a heads up, there might be a couple more changes but they should be less structural in nature
(02:09:21 PM) Matt Fredrickson: I'll keep kevin posted though as they come up
(02:10:33 PM) Matt Fredrickson: that one shouldn't be terrible though, I think it was mostly just message structure changes
(02:15:42 PM) Matt Jordan: well, there's now sequence numbers, redirecting information, and a number of other things.
(02:15:51 PM) Matt Fredrickson: oh yeah, that's important stuff
(02:15:52 PM) Matt Jordan: Are you guys planning on doing DTMF via the signalling?
(02:15:59 PM) Matt Jordan: It wasn't important until today :-)
(02:16:02 PM) Matt Jordan: Are we doing re-transmits?
(02:16:21 PM) Matt Fredrickson: yeah, we'll need to, but I'm still working on timers and behaviors with that
(02:16:54 PM) Matt Jordan: Is there any reason why you guys don't just punt and use SIP at this point?
(02:16:57 PM) Matt Fredrickson: as far as dtmf, good question - there are signaling constructs for it, but...
(02:17:03 PM) Matt Fredrickson: I think Ken added those messages
(02:17:07 PM) Matt Fredrickson: I'll have to talk with him about them
(02:17:18 PM) Matt Fredrickson: mjordan: Actually, my vote was to use SIP
(02:17:24 PM) Matt Jordan: :-)
(02:17:29 PM) Matt Fredrickson: I thought it'd be a lot faster to get our PSTN stuff out
(02:17:43 PM) Matt Fredrickson: just add the extra ICE/SDP parsing to the sip channel driver instead
(02:17:53 PM) Matt Jordan: we already have that.
(02:18:08 PM) Matt Fredrickson: and use a silly stupid SIP implementation to convert our browser signaling to SIP
(02:18:19 PM) Matt Fredrickson: but, I was out that week with having a baby :=-)
(02:18:31 PM) Matt Fredrickson: it sounded like the consensus was to not use SIP
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